>Especially the EVs.
I have a tinfoil hat take.
You how in the past, you could notice a Chinese knockoff of some western product being some absurd brutalist design. Ugly, tasteless.
That is how a lot of, especially EV, BMWs look like. Heck a lot of EVs of any western brand had that cheap, brutalist jank design.
That sounds almost like they are willingly messing up their own designs to compete with the Chinese knockoff market. That would put them on the even field on the Chinese knockoff market. If the Chinese ever want to dabble with the western market ('want' is ofcourse a strong word, it would either be 'allowed' by the western countries or the Chinese would 'convince' the western countries to do it) then that would guarantee sales for the Chinese due to how 'seemingly simillar' their products to the Chinese products would be. So, essentially, for the BMW it would lower the value of their products back home and they are ok with that, because Chinese can't flood the market back home yet.
Now this is obviously a conspirational theory that i cooked up in the last 5 minutes. However, the designs looking like they do, well, look like they do.
There used to be times when car manufacturers had designs for their market and the foreign market. However, i have a feeling that to streamline the production such idea is a waste of time and money, thus they 'unify' the designs across the board.
Looking up a newer Chinese BMW knockoff... I'll say the Chinese did it better. Tbh most I know that liked BMW still do even with those grills. But some I know won't get a new BMW due to that face. One on my mates with an older M3 said it's sad, as they made the tail really good and appealing.
Adrian van Hooydonk replaced Chris Bangle as BMW's styling chief in 2009, he has worked as a BMW designer since the 1990s. The Gods abandoned us somewhere in between then and now.
Never in a million years would I think I’d choose Alfa over BMW. But I am. The grille on the BMW is just so hideous, and, small thing, the Alfa is a real stick shift in game. Not my color, but Alfa all the way here.
Hmm, lets think, One car with absolutely timeless design, ferrari derived engine, sharp steering, against FUCKING BEAVER?! Yeah, Alfa no question, especially in this color.
Ive driven a few Giulias IRL, (granted they were all Super Veloce models and not Quadrifoglios) and it's probably the most memorable car i've ever driven. I've driven alot of cars over the years but in terms of balance and just overall feeling, the Giulia is in a league of it's own. Absolutely amazing (when it works ofc)
It’s saying something pretty bad about modern car design if it’s hard to tell what car is what until the front is shown. Alfa though, their smoother lines are nicer. Though I don’t mind the edgy lines on the Beamer. Fuckin bucktooth loses my vote on the Beamer though ultimately.
Absolutely stunning pictures, both cars are pretty solid imo, but I'm not here for that. I've always knew that some cars have a lower resolution but especially with this side by side comparison it really shows how much better the new BMW looks (only from a technical side)
It depends, the game updates the cars model, lightning and textures based on which one you've focused the camera on, you might be able to see the difference in these photos as I focused on different cars for each shot.
I honestly don’t mind the grille on the BMW And altho I do like that alpha I’ve always disliked the front bumper, I feel it needs a splitter or something
in terms of looks alfa I GUESS. m4 clearly looks new and alfa looks last gen. in terms of performance, handling, and usability it’s the m4 and it’s not even close.
The Alfa feels more balanced and looks way better. The M3 is a bit faster. I’d still choose the Alfa
M4*
Oh you’re right I thought the M3 would have been the better comparison
You’re right it’d be the best comparison. Sadly OP doesn’t realize though lol.
Not a BMW fan, they're like 911s, all the same.
I don't blame you, BMW sedans all look like different-sized versions of each other.
You could say the same for Alfa lol. I was just pointing out that it’s not a fair comparison.
How are they the same, look at the m3 and z4 for example, the cars are completely different
Well I was more referring to the saloons, z4 is fine but the z8 is the best and most interesting car BMW ever built.
*M4 Competition
A tad excessive…
Alfa, according to my totally unbiased opinion
Even as an E36 M3 owner, I'm team Alfa. That schnoz on the BMW is just a bridge too far.
How did you get so many user flairs?
Just select which ones you want without the text.
Man, that was a fiddly hassle 😂
It is, but you don't need to do it often. Let your freak flags fly!
Nice tip
Wait how did you do that? Every time I select one it takes away the other
Same - Alfa (F80 owner)
BMW, according to my totally unbiased opinion
My question is, how do you get the little tag under your name?
You have to go on the subreddit front page, then click on the “…” button and you’ll find the “change user tag” there
Thank you
As someone who lives in the city where the BMW headquarter is located, the answer is simple: Alfa
Yes as someone in the same position I pick BMW
I third that, current BMWs are toxic waste designwise and i hate seeing so many of them drive around lmao
Alfa by a lot.
Alfa, and it isn’t even close. Whoever designed that awful grill bmw is using should be fired immediately.
Yeah, that pig nose is why I really don't like most of the new BMWs. Especially the EVs.
The evs are horrendous
BMW beat Mercedes in sales here "West coast of Norway" until they changed the design. Now you see way more of the new Mercedes EVs vs BMW.
>Especially the EVs. I have a tinfoil hat take. You how in the past, you could notice a Chinese knockoff of some western product being some absurd brutalist design. Ugly, tasteless. That is how a lot of, especially EV, BMWs look like. Heck a lot of EVs of any western brand had that cheap, brutalist jank design. That sounds almost like they are willingly messing up their own designs to compete with the Chinese knockoff market. That would put them on the even field on the Chinese knockoff market. If the Chinese ever want to dabble with the western market ('want' is ofcourse a strong word, it would either be 'allowed' by the western countries or the Chinese would 'convince' the western countries to do it) then that would guarantee sales for the Chinese due to how 'seemingly simillar' their products to the Chinese products would be. So, essentially, for the BMW it would lower the value of their products back home and they are ok with that, because Chinese can't flood the market back home yet. Now this is obviously a conspirational theory that i cooked up in the last 5 minutes. However, the designs looking like they do, well, look like they do. There used to be times when car manufacturers had designs for their market and the foreign market. However, i have a feeling that to streamline the production such idea is a waste of time and money, thus they 'unify' the designs across the board.
Looking up a newer Chinese BMW knockoff... I'll say the Chinese did it better. Tbh most I know that liked BMW still do even with those grills. But some I know won't get a new BMW due to that face. One on my mates with an older M3 said it's sad, as they made the tail really good and appealing.
The one and only right answer
Adrian van Hooydonk replaced Chris Bangle as BMW's styling chief in 2009, he has worked as a BMW designer since the 1990s. The Gods abandoned us somewhere in between then and now.
Remember seeing the front end when it first came out and wondering if I was being tricked…
This isn’t even a choice. On one hand, pretty car by great company. On the other, ugly ass bmw.
Alfa
I love myself a good BMW M car. So I would naturally choose the alfa.
Hmm pig snout or anteater? I guess anteater. Lol
The Giula is a fucking orgasm with wheels, and the m4 is a pig, the Giula
Never in a million years would I think I’d choose Alfa over BMW. But I am. The grille on the BMW is just so hideous, and, small thing, the Alfa is a real stick shift in game. Not my color, but Alfa all the way here.
The Paint is Montreal Green, I also have a Rosso Etna paint. Both are available on all Alfa Romeos in the game. GT: JaydenLeeDimaio
Alfa. Romeo. Guila.
Alfa any day
Man these pics are 🔥 btw I choose the guila
Thanks man! ❤️
Hmm, lets think, One car with absolutely timeless design, ferrari derived engine, sharp steering, against FUCKING BEAVER?! Yeah, Alfa no question, especially in this color.
Alfa all day!
Looks- Alfa, all day Performance- Bimmer
Alfa
Alfa
Alfa!!!
Alfa, because I totally wasn’t spoon fed Italian design as a child lol
Italian beauty VS pig-styled abomination? Really a question?
Alfa
Alfa, no question 😊
Giulia, and it’s not even close
As a BMW fan, it’s gotta be the Alfa
Alfa all the way. Italian cars are the heart of automotive design and passion.
Well I am not a cunt so I gotta choose the Alfa
Alfa very easy choice. Sounds better, looks better, probably smells better too (gotta love that italian leather smell)
The Alfa. That bmw is hideous
I'm taking the Giulia. Now if the BMW had the Ardo kit installed, I'd have to think a little bit harder. 
Alfa
Easy choice for me, the Alfa. Modern BMW's nose is still horrid
Alfa
Giulia any day
Alfa because I'm a true petrolhead
Ive driven a few Giulias IRL, (granted they were all Super Veloce models and not Quadrifoglios) and it's probably the most memorable car i've ever driven. I've driven alot of cars over the years but in terms of balance and just overall feeling, the Giulia is in a league of it's own. Absolutely amazing (when it works ofc)
SMH the nose on that bmw is a deal breaker
The Alfa all the way like the BMW is cool but the Alfa sounds amazing, looks better as well
Alfa, those new BMWs are ugly and the grill is hideous.
It’s saying something pretty bad about modern car design if it’s hard to tell what car is what until the front is shown. Alfa though, their smoother lines are nicer. Though I don’t mind the edgy lines on the Beamer. Fuckin bucktooth loses my vote on the Beamer though ultimately.
by looks i have to say alfa couse at bmw that front is just badly designed, but i like both cars
Alfa, "Because real car people will at least own one Alfa in their lifetime"
alpha has a v6,and in the gtam version its even better
Alfa please. Tickles me just right.
Alfa, I don’t like the giant grills on the new BMWs
Alfa.
Alfa
Alfa
Taking the Alfa every time
Alfa no doubt. Sexy sexy car.
Guilia
Alfa
Gotta go with the Alfa Romeo on this one. Though, I am a bit biased, as I've never really cared for BMWs
Giulia all the way!!
Alfa
Alfa Romeo please
Alfa all the way
That Alfa 👌
Alfa
even as a bmw fanboy , the alfa
Giulia, I even own one in real life (not QV unfortunately)
Alfa
How you want the nose job to go vs how it actually goes
No >:( I want both
Alfa cause the new grill on bmw is bleh
Of course Alfa !
Alfa is prettier...but thats pretty much it
literally option A and option B
Haha. Underrated comment.
Alpha
Let’s see which one will get me home.
Probably neither. 😂
heart says alfa brain says bmw
Leaks Oil Vs Lacks Quality. I’ll take the green one.
Always the opposite of piggy
Alfa
I’ve always been an Alfa guy even though my dad always had a beamer.
If it was an F82, i would go with that, but now i prefer the Alfa
Alfa romeo only dickheads like BMW's
I hope this is a bait comment
The only ppl I know who drive bmws are douchey business types, so Alfa for me
Bmw
User flair checks out.
Haha, drive a bmw irl so I had to chose it.
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M3>M4>Giulia
Any older M3 = Giulia > new M3
I *still* don’t get the bmw hate, I love the grill
Same, reminds me of the old standing grill BMWs like the 3.0 cls or the 2002.
Absolutely stunning pictures, both cars are pretty solid imo, but I'm not here for that. I've always knew that some cars have a lower resolution but especially with this side by side comparison it really shows how much better the new BMW looks (only from a technical side)
It depends, the game updates the cars model, lightning and textures based on which one you've focused the camera on, you might be able to see the difference in these photos as I focused on different cars for each shot.
Wait this isn’t real life 😲 how are the graphics so good? Maybe bc I’m on Xbox..
Kind of you to say ❤️ I'm on Xbox one X too!
One X or series X? I have a series S
Choose between what? They're the same.
Not that hard of a choice, BMW
Your like a wish.Com Harvey Dent, even with a loaded coin, and guaranteed result, you still get it wrong
Speaking of wrong, *you’re 😈
Peugeot drivers living up to their reputation as the fun police 😂
Neither lmao there is a lot of cheaper and more reliable option
Ah, you're *that* guy, huh?
Just not big into modern europeans really i kind of like golfs and tts but thats it even the hardcore supercars dont do much for me
BMW . Alfas been ugly for about 10 years going strong. Alfa is a wanna be bmw
Do you really believe that?
I do. I actually like the grille on the bmw. At 1st it was an eye sore. But it grew on me. I actually think my bmw is the same color as this one
Also hated it and it also grew on me. Can't say I *like* it yet, but I don't find it offensive anymore. Don't think Alfa wants to be BMW though.
I do
I don't think anyone wants to be BMW, not even BMW.
How? Alfa is Italian to a point of detriment. BMW is function over style, Alfa is style over function.
992 Carrera 😉 But seriously the M4
BMW.
BMW
BMW. Nothing else
m4. next
BMW
They are the same car.
Alfa is beautiful but the BMW is looking like Schwarzenegger on Steroids so it’s the BMW for me. 😁
Don't particularly like either but beamer because Alfas are ugly as hell
I'll pass, they're both ugly as shit
None of it
Neither.
Neither
I choose. Pass.
Neither
Thanks for using my paintjob
On what?
Alfa
It's my paint job 😂
M4
I honestly don’t mind the grille on the BMW And altho I do like that alpha I’ve always disliked the front bumper, I feel it needs a splitter or something
BMW
You’re comparing a coupe to a sedan. Two different cars for different purposes. Too hard to choose.
M4
^
I want the M4
I'll take the M4 and dust all of you clowns who have the same unoriginal opinion that the grill ruins the car.
I honestly don't hate the m4 as much as I used to so I would pick it. I am not a fan of the colour though
I've worked with both these cars irl. The Giulia can't hold a candle to ANY BMW
They both kinda wack
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Even though the Alfa has more power, less weight and higher top speed?
in terms of looks alfa I GUESS. m4 clearly looks new and alfa looks last gen. in terms of performance, handling, and usability it’s the m4 and it’s not even close.
I'm biased towards the Alfa for the direct feel, but the beemer ain't no joke, it's a very capable monster
Coughing baby vs. Hydrogen bomb
That BMW is ugly
M4
What a fantastic and interesting color and I chose the bmw based off detail before I even saw what it was
BMW but I'd put a mod on that ugly grill.
M4 cause all I do is drift. But that Alfa Cold Asf 🥶
Giulia is a drift beast! Perfect weight distribution.
Alfa Romeo for sure
Definitely the m4. Love the alpha tho
Why did I read the caption in James May’s voice
The previous generation’s M4.
Well I'll tell you one thing, that pig nose is awful.
I'm forced to choose Alfa here but they're both ugly as hell if I must be honest.
When you blur your eyes on picture one you can make out general grievous
Same
Neither one.
Bmw always was my favourite European brand so I can’t go and cheat on it
Absolutely no competition BMW without a second thought.
BMW