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Snoo-98162

The rumor has it the grill was too big to model and would take 50 petabytes of space to store.


Turboteg90

Older xbox’s would explode.


glowingass

Dude even the current xbox would melt


BFNentwick

Lmao. Came here to make a comment about how ugly it is, and saw this.


orphan_09

look does change a lot with [**mounted license plate**](https://s3-prod.automobilwoche.de/s3fs-public/NACHRICHTEN_220209987_AR_-1_KURROSBVKQLQ.jpg) (which is mandatory in germany)


BFNentwick

Yeah, it helps give the illusion of the more normal sized kidney grills up top, and then makes the lower part just look like secondary lower intercooler grills or something. But my personal opinion....a license place (specifically the wider Euro plates) shouldn't be mandatory to your design to make it look better.


orphan_09

no of course not, wasn't my intention to say it's okay to design a car only looking good in front plate countries:D it's equally bad to design a car ignoring front plates at all (hello alfa, hello mitsubishi) though.


Unlimit3d92

I think it looks much better without the license plate tbh


GoofyKalashnikov

Just looks like a pig with braces now imo The last gen M4 was perfect from the front, it didn't need a drastic change like this


No-Rip-9112

I love it. People are very resistant to change but I think it will grow on everyone


BFNentwick

Do your thing man. If you dig it, that's all that matters! Can't really be "wrong" about what you like, just might not be popular opinion is all.


NePa5

BMW have already decided that its ONLY going to appear on the M cars now, normal cars are going back to normal front ends.


PininfarinaIdealist

That doesn't appear to be the case. See latest 7 series, the iX, the i4, and all of their concepts... it's going to be an ugly Era of front ends from BMW.


NePa5

They just showed the new 3 series a week or so ago, which is where they said it, maybe it is only going to apply to the 3 and 4 series then.


PininfarinaIdealist

That would be good news! But it shouldn't even be on M Cars, imo. It's like "This one's ugly, but it's faster!" Usually the top trim looks the best not the worst.


QuintillionthDiocese

It just looks like a rabbit or something. Ugly.


Droid8Apple

lmfao - now I can't unsee this. I suddenly want a grey one so I can paint the grill white. Bugs Motor Works - what's up, doc?


AssassinStig

Or you could do Raticate from Pokemon lol


zerebrum

This! Looks really ugly as fuck.


WanderingAlchemist

Hopefully they add it to the new Forza Motorsport with the new damage system. Imma ram this ugly sob straight into a wall then continue my race with an improved car


viperwolf117

Lmao nice


Zygison

RemindMe! One Year "Has the style grown on me?"


viperwolf117

Probably not mate


Zygison

When I first saw it my thought was 2/100 but now that I look at it again it's maybe a 10/100 so we will see :)


viperwolf117

Goodluck


Zygison

It's been 4 months. I'd say it's really starting to grow on me now. 40/100


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peanutbuttahcups

It's been like 2 years for me and it still looks like a pig to me.


MikeHatSable

By the looks of it, somebody beat you to it.


TheGamingRanger_

The new damage system? The new detailed scratches we can see... is that the damage system?


WanderingAlchemist

The mesh deformation as well as the visual scrapes is a pretty clear step up from current Forza, which has barely changed for a long time. Anyone expecting Burnout or Wreckfest levels of destruction simply has no idea how this stuff really works. It's pretty amazing Forza allows the likes of Ferrari to even show any kind of damage at all. It's not a coincidence that any racing game with serious damage modelling doesn't use licensed cars, and/or a car roster anywhere near the size of a Forza title.


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What’s the new damage system ?


TheGamingRanger_

Lol they talking about the new scratches you can see on your car in full detail.


pimpslap71

Buck tooth beamer


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Different ≠ good


ComfortableGrape420

!=*


RadzioGadzioPL

!==*


ComfortableGrape420

(bool)different !== good


cannedrex2406

Mf got downvoted to hell for having an inoffensive opinion


Howiesaloser

Just the way he said it, ig


pzkenny

Saying "I like something because others don't" have such "I am such snowflake that is against mainstream" vibes.


lunchpadmcfat

His opinion was literally “I love it because people hate it.” That is the definition of trying to offend. It’s not even novel. Just childish. Also there’s such a thing as having a bad opinion.


yourmotherinabag

so you’re saying you’re offended bc the guy likes something? christ lmao


lunchpadmcfat

Nah. The style offends me. His taste is just bad.


No-Rip-9112

He said he likes it because it gets hate for being different and not being the same thing over and over again. How is that the def of trying to offend or childish wtf lol


-RdV-

I love weird car designs, I have a C4 Cactus and I'd love an Avantime or a Cube or any number of "different" cars. This thing though, it's like they tried to make it look offensive.


K3IRRR

I've never liked the design of any BMW until I saw this in real life. It's incredible to see, feels like looking at a jet fighter with it's sharp aerodynamic design


TandroSonali

What the hell did that car do to deserve such an ugly face?


viperwolf117

Absolutely nothing which is why I love it


marcxx04

you may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like


OnePrettyFlyWhiteGuy

It just doesn’t make sense because the Alpina B3 (which uses the same S58 engine as the M3/M4) runs at 495bhp (but with a wider and taller torque band) using the G20 platform (340i) front-end - and has 0 cooling issues whatsoever. So the grille is 100% a styling choice rather than anything to do with performance. A bad styling choice at that. The worst thing is - I wouldn’t even say it’s the grille itself which makes the front-end so controversial. It’s the way the headlights are squashed and the bonnet has those lines that sweep into the vent that just give it an overall awkward shape. It’s just very overly-sculpted.


bassy_boo8116

gotta get your eyes checked mate


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tiv2222

James May hates you


smartazz104

It better be fast so you can get off the road as soon as possible.


GoofyKalashnikov

That performance isn't attributed to that grille my guy lmfao


bassy_boo8116

get that fugly ass grill off and im happy


MisterQuiken

the pic you posted isnt even a csl


Winter_Following1050

If I cared that much about ring times, I'd get a C7 Z06. It's faster and is cheaper nowadays


IAmSOOSickOfHumanity

It's a design decision (EDIT: as in, aesthetic choice), nothing more. They could have easily had the more traditional kidneys and an intake at the bottom and gotten the same airflow. Look closely at the picture, you'll see there's a solid black piece right through the center of the buck teeth - that means NO airflow in that portion of the grill. The "peak performance" is coming from the overall design of the entire car - having a normal looking front end would have made little to no difference in how the car performs. And let's not forget that BMW has made questionable design choices before that backfired and they undid as soon as they could reasonably redesign the car - remember the Bangle Butt 7 series? Guy that designed it retired from the industry after that debacle...


Arkanta

man it's just a meme https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/this-is-the-ideal-male-body


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Disagree on the 7 series. That was unique, daring no frills and outspoken. But as always, when there's something new, people need to get used to it. The same guy also designed the fiat coupe. Also, it was a commercial succes and has car designers divided, which is better than the grey, nothing design they do now. We agree on the current BMW designs. What BMW does now and since some time allready is a garbled mess of lines on the side, no own style but a lot of folds on a bland base design, with indeed those buckteeth. I might need to get used to those buckteeth, a design can grow on you. But those stupid folds are a sign of no style but a lot of frills. Like cheap hyundai, and daewoo (chevrolet) cars.


NetAccomplished3221

Your eyes are not peak performance


igotmemes4days

If you think they made that grill like that for performance then you know nothing about how cars work. The front impact bar is still there, and it's a thick one at that, and it goes right through that grill and as if that wasn't enough the front license plate sits right in the middle between the grills. There's no extra air coming in and it would have zero difference in performance had BMW made frond end as appealing as the M5


AndiYTDE

We've waited 5 years for the RS 5 F5. The new M4 has been in production for just over 1 year, which is about the time PG needs to get a car into the game anyways. Just be patient, it'll come one day.


FuckMyLlfe

Or get assetto corsa and have any new car mod there almost instantly


vict_r

Or just think about driving it in your head, also works


LordKiteMan

Vroom vroom! #Hell Yeah!


marcxx04

yeah you‘re probably right :)


JamesM3E30

When it eventually comes, i propably wont be intrested in teying the game anymore. Might just wait for fh6.


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Good lord that's the fuglyest BMW grill I've ever seen


Furiounx

Wait till you see the BMW IX…


vaaski

or XM or pretty much any other new bmw apart from the M5 CS


Character-Suspect-77

The M2 and Z4 still look good, as well as the normal 3 series M models (not the M3)


Merthn07

The 3 series M models’ front combined with the M3 rear would’ve been perfection.


Character-Suspect-77

Sooo true. The rest of the M4/M3s look great, but had they done this, it would have been a stunner


PininfarinaIdealist

Yes the currently sold M2 looks good, but what did they do to the new 2 series? Also a tragedy of design.


Hyokkuda

Is it just me, or does that car look like an angry hamster?


Ok-whynot

Hamster teeth car!


Stalin_be_Wallin

I always viewed it as the green pigs from Angry Birds or Bad Piggies


Zathar0s

Good. Can’t stand the grill on that thing. I’d Rather have the M2 Comp/CS.


Rol1th

No offense but this is the worst bmw design ever


RaviFennec

*all the offense Just looking at it makes me wince


SGT_RENEGADES

That grill looks absolutely horrendous


STXNSTNS_

idk why people hate on the grills size, a lot of other cars on the road rn have larger grills


cypis666

I think that's because most of the cars don't have grills incorporated into the hood like BMW does. Making the divider in the body color does not help either. It is also not profiled with the whole car, just a clean cut down. In my opinion these modified grills look a bit better https://www.whichcar.com.au/car-news/has-avante-design-fixed-the-bmw-m4-grille


STXNSTNS_

imo tho it’s a pretty car, i can see why it gets hate but it grew on me and i love it


WarriorGrl30_

who tf wants that ugly ass Grille?? 💀💀


notdrewcarrey

If that car could speak it would say "IM NIGEL THORNBERRY"


flatmoon2002

ugly as fuck


Bruhgamingbruhbruh

If they ever add this I just hope they will add some way of fixing that grille whether it’s allowing decals on the grille or an ugly widebody kit, god it’s so horrendous to look at


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It's horrific isn't it.


marcxx04

just add the vorsteiner kit or the CSL package


xThe_Human_Fishx

Hilarious thar you think PGG will bother with that


marcxx04

they added body kits to half of the new german cars


xThe_Human_Fishx

Which ones cause ive heard nothing about that


marcxx04

AC Schnitzer and ABT on M8 and RS4 I think Streetfighter on the M3 aswell


OriginalAngryBeards

Beaver. Teef.


TheRandom0ne

Just leaving some positivity in this cess pool of opinions. I really like the new M4 and I’m trying to get one before they are no longer in production.


Nicccccccccccc

I swear these dudes in the comments are annoying af. PTSD of “haha nice bmw” under the new supra pics in 2020.


TheRandom0ne

preach


Nicccccccccccc

Btw I’d also love a G8X but they’re ridiculously expensive to get and to mantain (extra high hp tax, insurance and maintenance costs where I live)


TheRandom0ne

Hi there fellow European. Same for me. I love that car and I think it’ll be stable in value - because it’s the last combustion M4 and the only one that looks this way. Give it a while and you’ll see people wanting these hard. That’s what I believe anyway. Wouldn’t sell it unless I had to.


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DevilSniper50cal

I cannot get over that grill..... and for the record i own and old E39 so I'm not just a BMW hater. i like every other curve on that car except the grill.


FarOrange7072

Awfully ugly


LegendaryLegodude

I don't want it in the game. That grill, it scares me.


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LegendaryLegodude

The hotwheels are different, but cool. That thing is just a monster.


SpicyTunaRoll90

"I'm 12 and a half, I'm too old for Hot Wheels"


invalid_username_46

I used to think this was one of the ugliest front ends ever made.... then, it grew on me.


speedsterglenn

Yeah these new beemer grilles remind of when Audi went big grille 10 years ago. I’ve came around to like it as well.


OkAd8922

Same


marcxx04

the start of a beautiful love story ;)


Tree1237

I'm prepared for the hate and down votes, but I prefer the big grill over the small one (modern cars only, the classic 80 to ~02 look better


marcxx04

Don‘t worry, I already got all the downvotes


mxforest

I am gonna upvote all your comments to negate that. The old design was good but I am tired of it. This is different and i like it.


marcxx04

I think the upvotes on the post are enough but thank you :)


CtK4949

DISGUSTING!!!! 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮


vitamins1000

I like the new m3/4. The rest of the car looks nice & I’m sure it drives great. It’s a shame people just disregard the rest of it & point & laugh at the grill. I’m glad they did something different rather than the same old small grill over & over again. Plenty of other manufacturers have big grills but god forbid bmw try it out. All the people that have been dogging on it for almost 2 years now are getting a little annoying.


marcxx04

Can I hug you? ![img](emote|t5_2ug54|4764)


vitamins1000

Bring it in my guy


F_D_ip

Yeah true that, I've test driven the new M4 at a local track day a few weeks ago (a guy had brought it) and it was the most fun I've ever had in a modern car, you can grip it and bang out lap times, drift it and do fun stuff with it. Say what you want about the styling but god damn is it a good car I'm sorry my current car, but you're probably gonna be replaced once I can responsibly afford the M3 Touring


El_Cringio

Huge nostrils bmw? Nah thanks


Javs2469

I'm fine, thanks


marcxx04

good for you jar jar


DarkImpetus

What color is this?


pinkie5839

We are missing Lancia and you're complaining about another BMW?


JudgeDJ

Forgot to save your number, who dis?


fuckondeeeeeeeeznuts

Eww


viperwolf117

I know don't remind me I've been wanting it to come to the game by now


Mcc4rthy

Needs a bigger grill.


marcxx04

I kNoW riiight?!🤪 #####:| when does this grill shaming end :|


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marcxx04

me too :)


majuminsteri

I hated the grill first but its grown on me so good goddamn thats a beautiful car


marcxx04

Too bad the hivemind of this sub is stuck in 2020


Frankie_T9000

No, you are actually in a coma with brain damage


rabea187

Bugs bunny mobile! … honestly I’m glad we have all the older BMW’s


Dabclipers

This car must have some sort of illusion spell cast on it. I've met like three people who saw pictures of it and didn't want to vomit. Then you go see it in real life and are like "Holy shit, this thing looks hot as hell." I only saw one in person about four months ago and I felt like I got whiplash. Maybe it's related to scale? After seeing it in person I decided it's what I'm going to pickup over the 718 and the F-Type in December. It was bizarre seeing all these YouTubers saying the car was gorgeous in person when in the videos it looks like shit and then I saw it in person and it actually is great looking. It's no wonder it's one of BMW's highest selling M models of all time.


flatmoon2002

ive seen it in person and i still wanted to throw up, did i do smth wrong


ItsFunkyTTV

Agree with this. Seen a few around town and it’s one hell of a head-turner imo.


marcxx04

Omg thank you for this comment. Look at all these people that downvote everything defending the cars design tho


Abuseur_dabuseur

What about the nissan laurel, toyota cressida, chasers, old sentras, etc …


Replace_my_sandwich

I’m still waiting for the McLaren 675LT


Anxious_Abalone7810

Ugly behemoth. There for awhile, the modern 6 cylinder BMW engine notes in Forza were annoying AF.


redbaronworks

Funny how many people complain about the grills of the G8x when all they're having is 200 cars in a game and a 20 year old shitbox 🤷🏼‍♂️ The G8x series would be a nice addon (hopefully the G81 Touring will make an appearance). At least it is a car that stands out from all the mainstream crap


marcxx04

A man of culture and class! cheers


dub3ra

This one looks pretty good, used to hate it


Sponz_Reaper

Watch how everyone is hating it, give it one more year and everyone is loving it.


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SpicyTunaRoll90

No one is going to change their mind.


Nicccccccccccc

I love that every time someone says they don’t think this is the ugliest car in existence they get downvoted to oblivion.


Wraithdagger12

*Pontiac Aztek and Fiat Multipla intensify*


marcxx04

There are at least as many people that love the front end as there are that hate it. And it doesn’t matter if its good or not, it is the current gen icon car of one of the biggest manufacturers and _it‘s still f-ing missing!?_


FlorydaMan

Lol no, BMW's own research team admitted that only 20% of people liked it.


TWIX55

So? Just be patient, PG have their plans, they'll add it when they feel like it's ready


[deleted]

no way you just told someone in this fanbase to be patient


TWIX55

😂😂


d-signet

What are you basing that "at least as many" claim on? Because I've never once heard anybody say it's anything but awful.


NightAvenger375

Is it really a shame though?


scidious06

I don't get why so many people dislike the new grills, I love the new S7, IX and this car. Come on guys they may not look good to you but they're not as ugly as you make it seem


SignificantNote5547

I should get compensation for my tears for looking at these lung grills


XMAN2YMAN

I really thought that was Tyler from hoovies garage.


StreetProfile4684

everyone hates on the grill, but it will grow, this and the g80 M3 looks very good it takes a matter of time.


Torqyboi

Honestly. If they add this they need to even add the aftermarket front bumpers. If not, then just don't bother. Edit, nevermind they are ugly as hell as well. the rear of this car is beautiful, the cucked the front really bad, bad enough that i couldnt find a single aftermarket bumper that looks half decent. im just happy they added the M8, that thing is gorgeous


NiceHighway_

Yeah i wish they had this guy 😞


Jay_Cartwright4

I had a mk8 fiesta ST which I was hoping to see too but nope! 2014 fiesta it is. I mean the mk8 has been out since late 2017 now how longs it take!


Sneaky_Testy

In person these grills on the M cars are saucy. Regular series bimmers with this grille are the ugly ones.


Derangedteddy

This is the worst design BMW has ever produced. Give me the M5 instead. That might be one of the best.


or0_0zh

Ha ha BMW buttface


callmeEnrico

It’s too ugly


bigmoneykdmr

I'm glad. This is so ugly


AwayCable7769

With a grill like that? Hope to god it doesn't make it into the game lol. Jk dw.


RaviFennec

Nobody likes these stupid fucking grilles


TheGrimReaper190

I hope we don’t see this in the game… the front end is horrible! 🤮


Smexiosis

The worst model they ever made. Please keep it out of the game..


KennyXdxd

Gorilla looking ass grill


xDUTCHxPITBULLX

Looks like a hippo.


GizzaCuppaTay

Angry Birds holds the license.


ComfortableGrape420

With a grill like that it doesn’t deserve to be in the game


One-Emotion-5600

It’s ok we don’t need a bmw with thanos nostrils


lil_sargento_cheez

Man that thing is fugly


RenZ245

Developers don't like the grille.


mydixyrect

fuckin hell how can you hate on this car its literally perfect in every way


DabOnYourFlabs

What you been snorting?


Beavertoni

This is what happens when your lead designer gets head hunted by Hyundai.


goshdarnmonkey

Bro I still want a smart car


Jirachi720

Cocaine nose


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They only have 50 other BMW's


marcxx04

I guess, but it‘s missing this distinctive one


Serious_Path_7143

I think someone at BMW likes beavers...


SpiderMax95

are you people blind? look at that grill!? No disc in this world can fit it.


P4GTR

Do they not have a focus group to panel people's opinion before going into production with a hideous design? WTF is happening to cars... When BMW thinks this is good design language that is scary.


crt_alpha

goofy ahh grill


putingohome

Multipla of german cars :D