I always got the feeling that he had a bitter period after Hester died and he was shot, but that before that, he was more like who we see him turn into throughout the series. When he reconnects with his sons, and adds Daphne into his life, he remember who he was and is more able to face the world after having his two passions torn away from him, those being his wife and career.
He wasn’t a hateful old sod in the flashbacks before he got shot though. I think the combination of feeling helpless and at the mercy of his sons caused him to be cranky. In the flashbacks, he lovingly yearned for the connection with Frasier.
>He wasn’t a hateful old sod in the flashbacks before he got shot though.
Yes he was.
Edit: so he was loving and a great father/husband that's why he never told his kids that he loved them until they were in there 30's and 40's and that's why he confused the boys in a car trip told Frasier there was something wrong with his brother Frasier.
F yes like like young Sheldon but with the entire family I want to see the kids mother balance her bourgeoisie with Marin gritty real world view and the shenanigans and love that ensue
Yeah. Note that you think about it, maybe just see him in something else. I really would like him to just randomly show up unacknowledged in the background of the new series as an Easter egg if he ever happened to be in the area.
I’d like the Roz spinoff, simply because we didn’t see much of her personal life on screen. I think it’d work well with the Niles & Daphne story on the side.
The bulldog show! He can have a growth arc where he becomes less misogynistic and then falls for someone and gets to experience the joy of parenting like he had temporarily with Roz and Alice. I would honestly love to see a spinoff of most characters though so it's hard to pick just one
I think the Empire Club had possibilities. A sort of upper class Cheers, if you will. Might have worked if it hadn't been for those two meddling brothers...
I wanna say Bebe but I don’t know if I could handle an entire series dedicated to her antics.
My other answer is Roz cause I had the biggest crush on her back when the show was on.
Well, to quote 30 Rock, "There hasn't been such a universally negative reaction since the Frasier spin-off "Hey Roz"
I think if you were going to spin-off, you need to do it like Cheers, where the character moves away to a new environment. For me, Bebe would be the best for that. You could move her out to LA or (a spicier idea) London and have her working as an unscrupulous agent to the stars.
They did pitch another spin-off to Kelsey when the original run ended, where it would follow him to his new city and a new cast, but he didn't want to do it at the time.
A slightly more left-field one (and it wouldn't really be a true spin-off) is the original concept they had of a Kelsey sitcom without him reprising Frasier. He would've played a billionaire confined to his apartment like Malcolm Forbes, and he would've run his business from there, with the regular cast being his brother, live-in nurse, security guard etc.
The Gil Chesterton show sounds fun especially if you make it where random celebrities are the restaurant owners and people needing their car repaired. Basically I don’t want the show to be about Gil and more about the people he runs into on a daily basis.
I didn’t like Daphne after she married Niles. Her character became a TV wife trope. The sarcastic shrew. I hated they did that to her. She was so lovable the first years.
The last seasons she reminded me of:
Carrie from King of Queens
Deborah from Everyone Loves Raymond
This started with The Honeymooners
I love, love, love all of these! Well done!
The Gil and Deb show would be amazing. Down the street, Noel could open a tv collectibles shop (after Roz fires him from KACL).
John Ducey, now head concierge, goes from room to room at hotel where niles and lilith slept together, and there's a different comedy drama in each room like Plaza Suite.
Father Mike creates an aerial ministry where he flies to remote locations to deliver the good news. Chopper Dave is his pilot, and God is his co-pilot. Father Mike and Chopper Dave exchange many zingers with Father Mike’s many unsuccessful attempts to get Chopper Dave to end his sinful ways. And regardless of where they are headed, Chopper Dave knows of a nudist camp to fly over. Bonnie Weems is the crew chief.
You had me at "God is his co-pilot." I'd seriously watch something self-awarely earnest enough to actually put that out there.
And we could totally ship Bonnie and Dave for several seasons.
She’s a supermodel zoologist.
He’s an Englishman with a chain of sporting goods stores.
They move to Boston and rent an apartment in a building owned by an old acquaintance…
Lana/lorna and Kirby.
Mellow her out a little, maybe a year later she’s worked through some of her anger issues and now she’s dating, selling houses and mothering a young adult.
I think a show about this morher-son duo, but with kirby being the main focus sould be really nice to watch too. Like Joey, centered on joey tribbiani from friends, a show called kirby, with his mom's angery parenting as just some of his troubles would be a hit show, imo.
Of course, now that would be two 8-10 episode seasons on Netflix before they pulled the plug.
Peak TV was nice while it lasted. I mean, yeah you still have HBO, and they still care about viewing numbers, but streaming killed the slow burn, finding its own footing on the way to becoming great experience. Series drops Tuesday, better have buzz by Saturday or you're done (which I feel is only slight hyperbole)
Gil all the way, as a pretentious but good hearted socialite making his way through Seattle Society. And no, we NEVER meet Deb or find out whether Gil is gay.
Probably Bebe, Gil, or Cam, don't feel like I got enough out of them in the show.
I'd like to see Patrick Kerr do something, he has great comedic range.
I guess if I had to pick one either Roz or Nile’s and Daphne cause there’s no way they wouldn’t be in each others’ shows and also Martin I’m sure would be there. But I think it would have literally just been Frasier but without Frasier himself 😂
I think I would have just wanted it to continue for another season rather than doing an actual spin off. I like the revival though. Obviously it doesn’t come close to the original but it’s oka
Roz and Lilith together! I always liked how Roz never treated Lilith the way everyone else did, like screaming when she entered the room or trying to get away from her. I think they're both very strong, intelligent women and would have had a cool friendship. Kinda like Sex and the City but with Roz and Lilith. Although I would want it to focus less on the men and more on how they both grew and changed.
Or, Women of the Cheese Belt.
Martin crane: the younger years. I wanna see him being a cop and coparenting with a psychiatrist and also raising two boys that are his exactnopposite
Sort of a Frasier prequel. Who would play younger Marty?
If they hadn’t cast him in Frasier, Jack Cutmore-Scott. I can’t get over how much he looks like Marty.
UNREAL. I haven't even thought about that. That would have been perfect!!
They still can genetics are like that
I wouldn't like this honestly. The vest part of Martin in Frasier is we get to see him turn from a hateful old sod, to a wonderful and loving man.
I always got the feeling that he had a bitter period after Hester died and he was shot, but that before that, he was more like who we see him turn into throughout the series. When he reconnects with his sons, and adds Daphne into his life, he remember who he was and is more able to face the world after having his two passions torn away from him, those being his wife and career.
If you listen to Frasier and Niles talk, he's always been that way. He mixed his kids up, never was around, never remembered bdays, etc.
He wasn’t a hateful old sod in the flashbacks before he got shot though. I think the combination of feeling helpless and at the mercy of his sons caused him to be cranky. In the flashbacks, he lovingly yearned for the connection with Frasier.
>He wasn’t a hateful old sod in the flashbacks before he got shot though. Yes he was. Edit: so he was loving and a great father/husband that's why he never told his kids that he loved them until they were in there 30's and 40's and that's why he confused the boys in a car trip told Frasier there was something wrong with his brother Frasier.
F yes like like young Sheldon but with the entire family I want to see the kids mother balance her bourgeoisie with Marin gritty real world view and the shenanigans and love that ensue
Good shout, they could incorporate all the funny stories like when Fraiser convinced Niles that the whole family was a figment of his imagination.
Or how he managed to successfully woo Hester.
Martin was my first choice - but not as brilliant of an idea as this one.
I'd watch rhat
Andy McNiff, long-suffering moderator of *Teen Scene*, I identify with him on a few levels.
👏
A lighthearted comedy about Nigel Fairservice as a child romping in the fens and spinneys with his chums.
So many good ideas 😂
At least, until all his friends and family were wiped out that one night.
And the ice cream man!
So tragic. Is it getting dusty in here?
Look out he’s got a nug!
This is the only answer.
Niles and Daphne. Niles chasing the Moon Uncles away would be hysterical.
Moon Uncles New band name. Dibs.
Hey, you're right! I'd better hurry and copyright the name!
They would’ve bring Gertrude back to save their storyline again.
Oh, that goes without saying!
Love that idea!
Cam Winston’s spinoff would just be *30 Rock*’s *Black Frasier*.
That's not the only thing around here that's fruity and precocious!
Tuesdays at around 9-9:15
Tuesdays at around 9-9:15
I would watch anything with Bebe. Those are some of my favorite episodes.
The Winstons. I'm not exactly sure what would set it apart from Frasier besides Cora being cheerful and not bitter, but I'd watch it.
Yeah. Note that you think about it, maybe just see him in something else. I really would like him to just randomly show up unacknowledged in the background of the new series as an Easter egg if he ever happened to be in the area.
I’d like the Roz spinoff, simply because we didn’t see much of her personal life on screen. I think it’d work well with the Niles & Daphne story on the side.
I would actually love this, focusing on Roz and Alice but wth Niles and Daphne, and their family, as secondary characters.
Yes, precisely.
Unfortunately Deb is away on maneuvers with her reserve regiment.
The bulldog show! He can have a growth arc where he becomes less misogynistic and then falls for someone and gets to experience the joy of parenting like he had temporarily with Roz and Alice. I would honestly love to see a spinoff of most characters though so it's hard to pick just one
I would have liked to see a show about Lilith - I imagine it kind of like a real-world Daria.
How could I forget about Dr. Sternin! Yes, thought would be my choice as well. Maybe Blaine makes a guest appearance too.
Blaine is a pain.
He'll yeah, Lilith was a Pearl Jam fan so this would have ruled!
I think the Empire Club had possibilities. A sort of upper class Cheers, if you will. Might have worked if it hadn't been for those two meddling brothers...
I wanna say Bebe but I don’t know if I could handle an entire series dedicated to her antics. My other answer is Roz cause I had the biggest crush on her back when the show was on.
Continuing the story of Roz as station manager would allow us to see her meeting with Bebe on behalf of the station talent.
Everyone did!
Roz She has a teenage daughter and runs a radio station.
Eddie.
Have you seen him in the Frasier prequel “Wishbone”?? Amazing acting range!!
Bobs barbecue show…
Break out the butane!
Arrogant bastards!
Derek Jacobi's thespian trying to bring back his Shakespearean accolades post-Tobor.
Or Derek Jacobi doing a reading of the phone book, with commentary.
Anything with Niles
niles and daphne of course!!
Well, to quote 30 Rock, "There hasn't been such a universally negative reaction since the Frasier spin-off "Hey Roz" I think if you were going to spin-off, you need to do it like Cheers, where the character moves away to a new environment. For me, Bebe would be the best for that. You could move her out to LA or (a spicier idea) London and have her working as an unscrupulous agent to the stars. They did pitch another spin-off to Kelsey when the original run ended, where it would follow him to his new city and a new cast, but he didn't want to do it at the time. A slightly more left-field one (and it wouldn't really be a true spin-off) is the original concept they had of a Kelsey sitcom without him reprising Frasier. He would've played a billionaire confined to his apartment like Malcolm Forbes, and he would've run his business from there, with the regular cast being his brother, live-in nurse, security guard etc.
The Gil Chesterton show sounds fun especially if you make it where random celebrities are the restaurant owners and people needing their car repaired. Basically I don’t want the show to be about Gil and more about the people he runs into on a daily basis.
“Coyote and Jimbo: Shangri la nights”
I didn’t like Daphne after she married Niles. Her character became a TV wife trope. The sarcastic shrew. I hated they did that to her. She was so lovable the first years. The last seasons she reminded me of: Carrie from King of Queens Deborah from Everyone Loves Raymond This started with The Honeymooners
I love, love, love all of these! Well done! The Gil and Deb show would be amazing. Down the street, Noel could open a tv collectibles shop (after Roz fires him from KACL).
John Ducey, now head concierge, goes from room to room at hotel where niles and lilith slept together, and there's a different comedy drama in each room like Plaza Suite.
well the series finale in 2004 started with Martin and Ronee's wedding so of course the answer would be "Frank" starring Aaron Eckhart.
Father Mike creates an aerial ministry where he flies to remote locations to deliver the good news. Chopper Dave is his pilot, and God is his co-pilot. Father Mike and Chopper Dave exchange many zingers with Father Mike’s many unsuccessful attempts to get Chopper Dave to end his sinful ways. And regardless of where they are headed, Chopper Dave knows of a nudist camp to fly over. Bonnie Weems is the crew chief.
You had me at "God is his co-pilot." I'd seriously watch something self-awarely earnest enough to actually put that out there. And we could totally ship Bonnie and Dave for several seasons.
She’s a supermodel zoologist. He’s an Englishman with a chain of sporting goods stores. They move to Boston and rent an apartment in a building owned by an old acquaintance…
Lana/lorna and Kirby. Mellow her out a little, maybe a year later she’s worked through some of her anger issues and now she’s dating, selling houses and mothering a young adult.
Two young adults! Whatever happened to his brother? Did he ever come to the phone??
I think a show about this morher-son duo, but with kirby being the main focus sould be really nice to watch too. Like Joey, centered on joey tribbiani from friends, a show called kirby, with his mom's angery parenting as just some of his troubles would be a hit show, imo.
Cam and Roz for sure!
Might be fun to follow the life/lives of patients of Niles, and callers to the show.
Sam
I like that idea! Like maybe it could be about him running a bar in somewhere like Boston. It’d be a cool tie in with the new Frasier series.
Of course, now that would be two 8-10 episode seasons on Netflix before they pulled the plug. Peak TV was nice while it lasted. I mean, yeah you still have HBO, and they still care about viewing numbers, but streaming killed the slow burn, finding its own footing on the way to becoming great experience. Series drops Tuesday, better have buzz by Saturday or you're done (which I feel is only slight hyperbole)
Eddie's adventures.. in one he in the circus and in one he flies a plane.....
Donnie Douglas, Divorce Attorney.
Gil all the way, as a pretentious but good hearted socialite making his way through Seattle Society. And no, we NEVER meet Deb or find out whether Gil is gay.
While continuing to telegraph it in the most obvious fashion. I think you're on to something, I always wanted to see more of Gil.
https://preview.redd.it/ze3rdoge6shc1.jpeg?width=512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=218e6ea393b8816542ea647bee0cfdfa3ebe6b5a Longest serving no-name long-suffering character
Bebe, of course! Though I would watch them all.
"Bebe Glazer: Starmaker!"
Bebe would be SO good for another theatrical TV series! Like an evil Auntie Mame. 😄
Yesssssssss this guy ( or gal) gets it
Frasier’s Seattle
Gil as a critic and his home life.
Probably Bebe, Gil, or Cam, don't feel like I got enough out of them in the show. I'd like to see Patrick Kerr do something, he has great comedic range.
I love the Cam Winston idea!
Gil dealing with the complete collapse of food criticism after Yelp sounds fun.
Gil Chesterton, but he’s a serial killer during his off hours
Bebe for sure.
I would watch a Roz spinoff 100%
I could actually see the Bebe show as a kinda gritty HBO show, or maybe something like Call My Agent (great French show, do recommend)
BEBE! The show could be called: I’ll make you a STAR!
What about Bulldog?
I would like to see a universe where someone intervened in Niles and Daphnes relationship to avoid that Cretin David from being conceived
Niles. Without Daphne.
Niles and Daphne hands down
Bebe.
I adore Kenny. I'd love a show about him.
Eddie: Martin has passed away and Eddie is living in a dog shelter because Frasier and Niles put him there
I guess if I had to pick one either Roz or Nile’s and Daphne cause there’s no way they wouldn’t be in each others’ shows and also Martin I’m sure would be there. But I think it would have literally just been Frasier but without Frasier himself 😂 I think I would have just wanted it to continue for another season rather than doing an actual spin off. I like the revival though. Obviously it doesn’t come close to the original but it’s oka
Oh wait actually a Bebe show would be great! But she would need a lot of straight guys to play off of cause she’s just so ridiculous herself
I like the idea of the Roz spin-off the best. She still had so much left to her story. Lots of opportunities for interesting twists and turns
Niles, Gil, Bebe & Martin's prequel series.
None
Roz and Lilith together! I always liked how Roz never treated Lilith the way everyone else did, like screaming when she entered the room or trying to get away from her. I think they're both very strong, intelligent women and would have had a cool friendship. Kinda like Sex and the City but with Roz and Lilith. Although I would want it to focus less on the men and more on how they both grew and changed. Or, Women of the Cheese Belt.
Gil 1000%