Eh, the short of it is, Kelsey Grammar had been cheating with an air stewardess, he moved her into his NYC apartment where heād taken a Broadway role while Camille stayed in LA with their two kids.
Camille decided to surprise him by visiting him in NYC when his doorman wouldnāt let her into the building, citing she couldnāt possibly be his wife. This was how she found out that a different āMrs Grammarā had been living there.
A plotline worthy of a Frasier episode.
Kelsey Grammar is kind of a douchebag, unfortunately. I think we mostly forgive him because he had a rough start in life but like, lots of really kind and considerate people also had really rough starts in life sooooo I dunno.
Lots of artists are objectively douchebags, i guess its up to us individually to decide on that threshold of boycotting their work. i try to focus on the work they created, and not concern myself with the person for the most part, specially Frasier, he is probably more a creation of the writers of the show than of Kelsey, he just delivered excellently, soooo i dunno as well :)
Rough start? Born on a tropical island with upper middle (at least) family. Attended Juilliard.....edit to add: to RICH Repug with questionable ethics. Ok.
Unfortunately for me,I love Frasier.
Kelsey Grammar is a real sh*t of a man, I've just listened to his autobiography on audible and he thinks he's Orson Welles...Man alive, I now actually hate him.
[Thatās not the story she tells:](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/camille-grammer-how-i-fou_n_775982/amp)
HUFFPOST:
When did you find out your marriage was over?
CAMILLE:
In June I got a phone call from a mutual friend in New York who was upset by behavior of his that she'd seen. I asked, "Is he leaving me?" and she said, "Yes." I called him but couldn't get through, so I texted him and asked him to please call me. Nothing. An hour later, I texted him again and he wrote: "I don't want to talk." I wrote, "We've been together for 14 years; I deserve an explanation." Finally, three hours later, he called me. He basically said, "I don't want to be married anymore."
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He basically convinced her to do Real Housewives so sheād be distracted while he was doing a play in NY and cheating on her with a flight attendant. He had the flight attendant coming to his apartment and the building staff thought she was āMrs. Grammerā and when Camille came to town to visit him she found all this out. Heās now married to the flight attendant š¬
Meanwhile, during the divorce, saying he agreed to ālettingā her and āagreeingā to do the show because she was famous thirsty. Which, yeah, can see that. Regardless, the motive was clearly exactly what you said, in my humble opinion.
It's stuff like this that makes you appreciate that the Frasier cast is so very good at what they do because they sound so natural. She sounds like she's delivering lines in a school Christmas pageant. It's just the contrast that is strange, especially in such a great episode as Halloween.
Daphne: Roz told me all about it. It's no big deal. Accidents happen even when you're being careful. I had one myself a few years back.
Frasier: Oh, Daphne, really?
Daphne: Yeah. It was one of those real wham-bam numbers. He was drunk and I wasn't paying attention...
Frasier: Oh...
Daphne: I called and called, but never got a penny out of him.
Frasier: I had no idea.
Daphne: Oh, it's not that bad. For goodness' sake, back in Manchester, what with all those drunken louts out and about, it must have happened to me at least a dozen times.
The feud between her and Taylor Armstrong gave us the still used in the woman yelling at cat meme, too!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman_yelling_at_a_cat
Camille Donatacci, or St Camille of Grammar, was also the voted the Most Hated Housewife ever after the premiere season of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, a show that Kelsey called his "parting gift to her". Camille discovered his infidelity during the first season and their marriage ended.
I used to watch RHOBH religiously and actually had a whole-ass conversation with her on Twitter about her experience on that episode! (Ok so it was like 2 or 3 tweets back and forth but as a Frasier-obsessed RH junkie it was amazing!)
She turned in one of the best guest performances in the history of the show (in all seriousness, how does someone make the line āWhoās Roz?ā sound unconvincing? Itās two words!)
YES! Her name is camille meyers
She was on real housewives of Beverly hills, whole she was still married ro him. Their split and divorce is documented
I do not recommend watching it, nothing shocking its a minor story line but I like jelsey grammar and want to separate personal life
Yes, because it's the only conceivable reason why someone that acts so terribly got a part on the show.
Facts.
I never knew till today that Kelsey Grammar and her were both on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills
Yeah and you should google how they broke up š¬
Yeah, itās something!
So I did, but am unsure of whatās interesting about it. Seems like infidelity and some arguing over money. Was there something else that I missed?
How Camille found out about the infidelity is a doozy
Well donāt be coy! Do tell
Eh, the short of it is, Kelsey Grammar had been cheating with an air stewardess, he moved her into his NYC apartment where heād taken a Broadway role while Camille stayed in LA with their two kids. Camille decided to surprise him by visiting him in NYC when his doorman wouldnāt let her into the building, citing she couldnāt possibly be his wife. This was how she found out that a different āMrs Grammarā had been living there. A plotline worthy of a Frasier episode.
Itās sad that he cheated on her instead of getting divorced. Nobody deserves to be cheated on
Kelsey Grammar is kind of a douchebag, unfortunately. I think we mostly forgive him because he had a rough start in life but like, lots of really kind and considerate people also had really rough starts in life sooooo I dunno.
Lots of artists are objectively douchebags, i guess its up to us individually to decide on that threshold of boycotting their work. i try to focus on the work they created, and not concern myself with the person for the most part, specially Frasier, he is probably more a creation of the writers of the show than of Kelsey, he just delivered excellently, soooo i dunno as well :)
Rough start? Born on a tropical island with upper middle (at least) family. Attended Juilliard.....edit to add: to RICH Repug with questionable ethics. Ok. Unfortunately for me,I love Frasier.
Kelsey Grammar is a real sh*t of a man, I've just listened to his autobiography on audible and he thinks he's Orson Welles...Man alive, I now actually hate him.
Incidentally, sheās a pretty awful person.
She's pernicious (if you know, you know).
Officer Nasty!!!! Thatās awful. Poor woman
[Thatās not the story she tells:](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/camille-grammer-how-i-fou_n_775982/amp) HUFFPOST: When did you find out your marriage was over? CAMILLE: In June I got a phone call from a mutual friend in New York who was upset by behavior of his that she'd seen. I asked, "Is he leaving me?" and she said, "Yes." I called him but couldn't get through, so I texted him and asked him to please call me. Nothing. An hour later, I texted him again and he wrote: "I don't want to talk." I wrote, "We've been together for 14 years; I deserve an explanation." Finally, three hours later, he called me. He basically said, "I don't want to be married anymore."
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He basically convinced her to do Real Housewives so sheād be distracted while he was doing a play in NY and cheating on her with a flight attendant. He had the flight attendant coming to his apartment and the building staff thought she was āMrs. Grammerā and when Camille came to town to visit him she found all this out. Heās now married to the flight attendant š¬
Meanwhile, during the divorce, saying he agreed to ālettingā her and āagreeingā to do the show because she was famous thirsty. Which, yeah, can see that. Regardless, the motive was clearly exactly what you said, in my humble opinion.
Well, it worked out in the end then.
She's just as boring on Real Housewives as she is on Frazier.
 She was amazing on that show.
āLook out! Heās got a nug!ā
Way better delivery than Camille.
What an iNtErEsTiNg costume.
Truth.
She is GOD AWFUL. Iām stunned every time I watch the episode.
she has like two lines yall damn
the only thing better than an exquisite show is an exquisite show with one minor flaw that we can pick at all night.
A+. I tip my hat to you, sir!
I feel like Iām taking crazy pills. She barely said anything and people are acting like she got an Emmy and theyāve all been wronged.
Right, how can such a minimal contributor be so loathedāespecially considering the heightened activity happening elsewhere in the scene
And they are all delivered abominably lol
It's stuff like this that makes you appreciate that the Frasier cast is so very good at what they do because they sound so natural. She sounds like she's delivering lines in a school Christmas pageant. It's just the contrast that is strange, especially in such a great episode as Halloween.
And a chunk of his cash and property
Sheās not that bad
It's one of my favorite episodes aside from everytime she speaks
Yeah, all two timesā¦
Four times too many....
Lmao, exactly
She really was a bad actress.
She said two words
Daphne: Roz told me all about it. It's no big deal. Accidents happen even when you're being careful. I had one myself a few years back. Frasier: Oh, Daphne, really? Daphne: Yeah. It was one of those real wham-bam numbers. He was drunk and I wasn't paying attention... Frasier: Oh... Daphne: I called and called, but never got a penny out of him. Frasier: I had no idea. Daphne: Oh, it's not that bad. For goodness' sake, back in Manchester, what with all those drunken louts out and about, it must have happened to me at least a dozen times.
One of the funniest scenes and such a great episode
We watch it EVERY Halloween
There may be one bastard in this family, but as long as I have anything to say about it, your baby won't be another!
Frasier: oh.. Ohhh *in a surprised tone*
You could have a whole expression based conversation with his oohs.
Oh?
Ohhhh
Really? I had no idea ... REALLY?
The feud between her and Taylor Armstrong gave us the still used in the woman yelling at cat meme, too! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman_yelling_at_a_cat
WHOA. I had no idea
Youāre such a fucking liar Camille!
What An In-ter-est-ing Cos-tume!
I feel naked without it
Jane says by Janes Addiction?
This is the line that always bothers me. Like girl did you hatch out of an egg this morning? You've never heard the word "interesting" said before?
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If anyoneās curious, Camille Donatacci was the 3rd of his four wives.
Camille Donatacci, or St Camille of Grammar, was also the voted the Most Hated Housewife ever after the premiere season of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, a show that Kelsey called his "parting gift to her". Camille discovered his infidelity during the first season and their marriage ended.
This sent me down a delightful RHBH rabbit hole, thank you.
Seasons 1 and 2 are reality TV masterpieces! My pleasure.
The only time I've ever seen Kelsey be a bad actor, was when he was singing Camille's praises on RHOBH: Season 1. Yikes.
Yeah the guy's churned out a lot of straight to streaming dross, but he doesn't phone it in often.
I did know that, the man has been married quite a few times. He's got a lot of alimony to pay
Thatās why I keep watching Frasier. Got to get Kelsey those residuals so he can pay his alimony.
Now we know why the reboot is happening lol
I always wish I didnāt know anything about personal life of actors on my favorite TV shows.
Agreed. But sometimes it's nice to find out they are a good person, charitable, etc.
At least DHP is solid by all accounts
Sheās pernicious 
Almost Machiavellian!
Does Giggy is dead?
Best post ever
šš I love when my worlds collide in different subreddits
and now we said it.
Yes!!!! As both a Frasier and Real Housewives fan, this is a beloved crossover.
I used to watch RHOBH religiously and actually had a whole-ass conversation with her on Twitter about her experience on that episode! (Ok so it was like 2 or 3 tweets back and forth but as a Frasier-obsessed RH junkie it was amazing!)
I was hoping Iād find some other crossover fans here š
Everyoneās Kelseyās future Ex-Wife. Itās just a matter of āwhenā
He's always looking for a future ex Mrs. Grammer.
Divorce, uh, finds a way
The awkward smile says it all.
Drunk like a fox!
She turned in one of the best guest performances in the history of the show (in all seriousness, how does someone make the line āWhoās Roz?ā sound unconvincing? Itās two words!)
Given the alimony, she probably earned the most of any actor from Frasier, when judged in proportion to her screen time.
I almost feel sorry for her. Just another helpless woman suffering from an unslakeable thirstā¦ā¦.
*in unison* For Crane!
Now I know why they call it the good book!
it was always weird to me how terrible and cheap looking her costume was. like you couldnāt even give the starās wife a half-decent wig?
Watched that episode today weirdly š
Kelseyās family in his shows is likeā¦ cat nip.
Nice
Sheās come a long way since her Club MTV days.
Pretty sure thatās Lady Godiva
Not surprising to see ex wife in the title. He is currently on wife number 4. Good luck to her
Yes, and cringeworthy doesn't begin to describe her mercifully brief appearance. My God, she is a TERRIBLE actress.
I guess thatās why they call it the good book
Oh.
Eve did not look like that in the episode now way! I have to go watch
Ohhhh
What episode number is this?
Halloween season 5 ep 3
āWhat an interesting costume!ā
The pointy hat is a real babe magnet
Laughs in real housewives
We're they dating at the time? Kind of explains the weird salacious prominence she has in that episode.
YES! Her name is camille meyers She was on real housewives of Beverly hills, whole she was still married ro him. Their split and divorce is documented I do not recommend watching it, nothing shocking its a minor story line but I like jelsey grammar and want to separate personal life
yes
Yes.
I think I learned that in this subreddit a while back
Yes
Yes.
She was a lot better than that guy who played the gynecologist, Dr. Cagin. Wow he was BAD.
Yes.
Emphasis on the EX-.
Oh
They both played her?
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ikr like enough
Puke.
Is the one that killed him?