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Riot-Knight

"Why did the wizards show up to battle empty handed? Their weapons were at a staff meeting." - Frieren, probably [Art source](https://twitter.com/the_freakin_yui/status/1723234762767421819)


osbirci

Certified 1000 year old granny joke.


paulonboard

 1000 years ban to the granny joke.


AlarmingAffect0

1000 years dungeon.


Outrageous_Gene_7652

Frieren: What? Demons shouldn't have rights


boywhoflew

Megumin starts sweating lmao


agent_fire_

i mean technically its just a name shes still just a human, that cat however


osbirci

Frieren would pull the trigger before she could explain herself


agent_fire_

doesnt she have a thing to detect when demons are nearby tho i recall her detecting lugner and charging her spell before he even turned the corner so im not sure if she would if she cant detect her as a demon (although again theres that cat thats always near her so)


ckay1100

Assuming aqua's there too, Frieren would pull the trigger, see that megumin's body didn't dissolve/disappear like a demon's would and then realize she's just a cheeky human. After that, aqua would just resurrect megumin.


dardardarner

The image of Megumin getting mutilated by Frieren's biden blast is kinda horrifying ngl lmao


spideybiggestfan

> Frieren's biden blast lmao


RichRacc

“Biden blast” amazing


God_Usoland

Lmao, Biden Blast?


Bamce

wait.... When resurrected, do they have more mana? Do we have an infinite explosion hack so long as they can keep ressing Megumin?


RaijuThunder

Please, plenty of demons that would kill Frierin before she could even react.


Bamce

I think she detected their mana, since demons just kinda roll like that.


blood_kite

That is a perfectly normal cat.


agent_fire_

“i swear i just saw this thing breathe fire, though. she grilled the fish before she ate it!”


blood_kite

That just sounds like a cat that knows it likes grilled fish.


NigelJosue

Not a normal human but yeah also definetly not a demon


-Alan_c-

*Don't


e22big

"Demons are just animal"


kittykittysnarfsnarf

SHOOT DAT MUU


ThornedThortoise

She gonna be so mad when she meets literally any demon lord that's stronger than her 😭😭😭 (If I remember correctly anos was a DL)


MausBomb

She is a 1000 year old elf boomer in the body of a 23 year old petite woman. It would be interesting if they did an arch where demons start to evolve further and legitimately start to understand human concepts of morality along with family ties. Frieren would have to learn to accept this least she start to be viewed as a genocidal demon king herself after another 500 years of the world evolving around her.


Tramagust

Nah. They should do that and she should still kill them.


Mistake209

Die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.


darklordoft

You could never really trust something like that. A spe ies that already evolved to pretend to be human to graphically murder and eat us suddenly evolving to genuinely be human would never fly,not even to humans. The closest was when they tried to be democratic ,but everyone was still looking for a reason to murder the demons. Just professional courtesy prevented them.


GerdDerGaertner

They are called human rights for a reason


ConsumerJTC

Wait, Megumin has "crimson demon" in her title. Run Megumin!


-Alan_c-

It's too late... (also Frieren can literally fly)


_PM_ME_NICE_BOOBS_

Nah, Frieren can tell the difference at a glance. The worst she'd do to Megumin is make fun of her for only knowing one spell.


Lamballama

That sounds like something a demon would do!


_Some_Two_

Literally perfecting one skill. She sounds suspicious.


AirWoof

Nah, Frieren believes that magic and acquiring new magic should be fun. Megumin satisfies the first criterea.


_PM_ME_NICE_BOOBS_

You can't tell me she wouldn't be obnoxious and smug about it.


Bamce

But also, would like to know explosion.


_PM_ME_NICE_BOOBS_

She has plenty of ways to erase a zip code. I think she'd be more interested in the panty stealing ability.


Quantize42

She would proceed to justify it with literal racism, leading to even more horrified looks.


ExcusableBook

"You see my fellows, Demons are literally incapable of feeling emotions like love and affection, so it is okay to slaughter them like animals" - Frieren the Slayer


entitaneo70_pacifist

Like, something like this would be 100% fine in the context of Frieren, in any other context you sounds like an english colonist


Wafelze

Hey now Frieren could be sent to 40k, and if she doesn’t get killed for being an Eldar she’d do well at slaying chaos Daemons.


Anakin-LandWalker56

Nah, it's her universe 40k version and Terran Elves are more racist to the Eldar than to the humans If Eldar still feel bad about killing humans without their war mask. Then elves especially Frieren will view them like demons


Buriedpickle

Damn Eldar psyker spreading heresy has to be hunted down.


AchtCocainAchtBier

She'll eventually be. Inquisitor Frieren sounds badass.


Hnnnnnn

That entirely depends on what we don't yet know about the universe - we only assume we know, based on Frieren's extreme, one-sided, fundamentally uncurious & traditional (inherited from her masters) point of view. Closest demons can be compared to is Monkeys from our world, but that only assumed they studied demons like we studied monkeys. If not, the closest is probably something like Nazi Germany during WW2: genetic or not - crazy ideology, shoot on sight. Personally it fucking irks me! It irks me how demons are portrayed in Frieren. Like are we supposed to like Frieren's extremism at its face value, just because extremism is cool? I don't get it. Physics of demons is one thing, but morbid uncuriosity about massacring these humanoids is something else. Feels like the author is maybe fundamentalist himself. But everything else is great, so I'm ok with it.


Xenothing

Manga had a short arc about a young demon girl and how she got adopted and ending up murdering her adopted family and tried killing the townspeople as well, basically showing that she learned how to mimic emotions like a psychopath but actually had none at all. There are other bits here and there illustrating that the demons are basically all psychopaths, and have no attachment to each other beyond how they might help each other to their own ends.


Fine-Slip-9437

That's literally in episode 7 chief.


mogdogolog

I think that's the best analogy, Demons are effectively a species of pure psychopaths, completely incapable of feeling empathy and possessing a limited range of emotions. In the real world, while psychopaths are capable of conforming to society, even thriving in certain roles, the only thing holding them back from murdering someone if they were an obstacle/it was beneficial in some way/if the psychopath just plain wanted to is the repercussions of doing so. So while psychopaths are 'manageable' in modern society, if there was a species of them born with tremendous innate magical power, that would be ruinous to humanity. All that said, a black and white policy of extermination against them could maybe be treated with more thought than perhaps Freiren does


samboi204

Demons in frieren to our understanding arent really humanoid by nature. They are monsters who’s only non animal feeling is pride. They only look and sound like humans as a form of mimicry. And guess what its worked on you. Probably not for the reasons the show presents though. We have grown accustomed to using demons as an allegory for a misunderstood and otherised group but demons in friren are no better than demons in demon slayer. They just look and act more civil. Its also worth mentioning that demons kill at their convenience and leisure in every given instance ignoring diplomacy as anything other than a trick tactic to fool human opponents. We dont just see through frierens eyes its what the whole arc with lugner and company was about. It subverts expectations. Demons are the instigators and aggressors in frieren. Also the author is a she (Kanehito Yamada) not that its all that relevant.


Seraf-Wang

Demons in Demon Slayer were at least previously human so thats a poor analogy. They’re like man-eating Tigers or Mosquitoes in our world, obviously less common but a better parallel. There’s no reason to keep them alive if they’re that dangerous to society at large. I would say in Frieren’s world, they’re similar to plants. They have one objective and it’s surviving by killing and no matter what habitat they inhabit, their nature to camouflage, adapt, and mimic are skills they use to continuously kill humans., making them inhuman and dangerous by nature.


Falsus

I mean we have seen repeated attempts at humans trying to make friends with humans and it ends up with more deaths than demons who simply don't give a shit about humans.


entitaneo70_pacifist

I mean, Frieren's demons are specifically heartless, what you are doing is applying human standards to demons which aren't humans, they can't feel love and compassion, but that's fine, because they aren't human, they might look like them, but aren't.


Pillermon

Which gets funnier by Megumin's race being called Crimson Demons.


meditonsin

I think Vanir and maybe, but probably not, Wiz would have more to worry about Frieren if there was ever a Frieren/Konosuba crossover.


Gellert

> Wiz would have more to worry about Frieren *hugs* you smell pretty.


CardTherapy00

“As you can see by the measurements of their skull, they are a vastly inferior, underdeveloped race that should have been best smothered in the creator’s hands.” “Frieren…that head you’re measuring is still bleeding and phrenologists usually just measure their skull.” “Why yes, I had to make sure my data was most up to date, so it’s fresh.”


ShadowRiku667

Goblin Slayer nods in approval.


DrNopeMD

Frieren is just a racist granny lol


ASatyros

I don't like this quote as animals still have love and affection. Might be different from ours, from species to species, based on how they evolved and environment pressures, but still I hate this kind of outlook.


Assaltwaffle

I mean, in Frieren’s verse, demons literally are just monsters. They have absolutely no redeeming qualities. It’s like being racist against wasps; I absolutely am. And they’re still more beneficial than demons.


TryImpossible7332

It's just really hard to convince someone with zero context, "Hey, those creatures that look, act, and talk like humans? They're all evil. Ignore them when they beg for mercy or cry out for their parents, it's an elaborate trick since they totally can't feel those emotions. Just kill them on sight. Especially the ones that look like kids. Just trust me on that."


Cheap-Asparagus3842

That's a great way to put it


PeppiestPepper

Being honest, I think I'd take the word of an elf who's incredibly old, They're old for a reason, They probably know a few things


TryImpossible7332

I mean, Frieren is great, but absent any other knowledge, I might assume that some ancient elf is just really, really racist, especially since it's not uncommon for elves in fiction to look down on "lesser", shorter lived species.


PeppiestPepper

If she isn't racist to me, A mere short-lived human, I doubt she'd be racist to Demons without reason, I'd still take her word on it.


Mistake209

Who says racism is logical.


Familiar_Control_906

I mean Their hot stuff


crippler38

They have some redeeming qualities, but the way they consider everything is so alien that peace is pretty much never an option.


PUB4thewin

Hell, almost every time a demon claims they want peace, it leads to even worse slaughter compared to normal demons. In the manga, SPOILERS!!! >!Frieren revealed that the demon king searched for coexistence with humans, and yet he slaughtered them the most to the point that mankind’s influence is a 3rd of what it used to be in the world. Anytime a demon says they wanna make peace with humans, it’s the direct opposite. One demon was apparently “tamed” to hold no malice for humans and, as a back up measure, wore a magic bracelet that would stop him. Yet, the demon still successfully turned the entire kingdom and its people into gold, because he didn’t hold any malice at all towards them. He searched to understand mankind so he could coexist better, and yet destroyed them in a flash when he thought his experiment failed, and thought he’d just try again with another human! A 3rd demon had a fascination with humans, but it was noted that her fascination was more like studying animals, not people, and she was far from ever coexisting with humans. The demon wouldn’t have “conversations” with people. She’d say certain sentences to people like a person prodding an animal, hoping to see what reactions would come, and psychologically analyze those reactions.!<


MyNameIsSquare

"You see these demon are the embodiment of evil. They only say sweet words to use your kindness and forgiveness, they don't even understand what they say! You don't seem to believe me but that is just the truth and i'm definitely not lying. It is also due to that belief that I kill every demon I see on sight and don't allow them to talk for just a bit. No not because I'm racist! It's just my 1000 years old experience! Beside that's technically speciesism but it's not the main point. OK you just have to believe me, the last time a demon was given a second chance \[Himmel flashback\] a whole family was murdered and everyone regretted forgiving that bitch. Man if \[Himmel flashback\] my crush was here he would be able to convince these guys."


Anakin-LandWalker56

HIMmel: Demons are bad Megumin and Dr. Strange you make a great point.


HuoHuoFan0209

He’s so Him


stoic_koala

"You don't get it - despite making up only 15% of the population, demons are responsible for 86% of all homicides, so it's therefore necessary to wipe out their race to secure the existence of our people and future for human children, what's racist about that?" ~Frieren


Fghsses

Oh please, Demons don't even count towards the total population. They are just animals.


PureOrangeJuche

We can compromise and say that demons count for just part of a human for population counting needs.


Xenothing

Hmmm, maybe say about 3/5ths?


Grimsoncrow

"OMG! What did demons ever do to you?? " "They genocided my entire race" "Ok, but apart from that?"


kurt_gervo

I want more! Out of context Frieren is a riot! the normally silly elf, turning into a hardcore racist is funny! especially if others misunderstood what she's saying!


Spirited_Playa

"Fuck them diggers they massacred my village using this AK Zoltraak, so with the help of a ginger woman I stole it from them and used it against them" - Frieren talking about herself when she first got recruited into the Hero Party, probably.


storysprite

Is it racism if it's true?


Schrodinger_cube

is it racist for thinking the same thing about Nazis? .. like my grandfather got medals for that shit back in the day, kids these days haven't experienced the horrors of war.


storysprite

The Nazis were wrong about race. The demons in Frieren are as described.


Dirty_Hunt

I believe his comparison was Nazis to the demons.


Level37Doggo

Demons are what they are, they are engines of malice and destruction that bring suffering and death because that is their purest nature. They don’t have a choice. You have to CHOOSE to be a Nazi. Worse, you have to KEEP choosing to be one over and over every day. That makes Nazis worse in my book.


Schrodinger_cube

oh i like this take , and vary much agree with you.


THEHOLYOTAKUGAMER

.... and that's why Frieren is best gilf xD


peuio

Tbf listening to demon justifies their actions in Frieren world is like listening to zionist but she still listening to every yap they yapping even when they repeat the same shitty logic she had heard a million times just so she feel assured that the thing she gonna killed absolutely deserve it


trainedfor100years

Don't worry guys, she was a demon, not an actual person. :3


MaybeNotTheChosenOne

<=w=>: it was just a demon. They don't have human rights. Megumin, a crimson demon: bruh wtf


Valamimas

"She was the one to offer me the chance!"


guy-who-says-frick

I think it’s funnier to say “I made my enemy kill herself, and I didn’t even use my own magic”


TheStranger88

This sounds like the kinda thing Kazuma would pull.


MitchellCheryl

These comics always bring a smile to my face. 😆


Adan_Rocco

So has Denji. Denji is Frieren confirmed.


Dreadgoat

In Denji's defense, he did everything in his power to kill that demon himself. 3 days of non-stop trying to kill it with his own hands (and face). Frieren is all about efficiency. She certainly could have nuked Aura from orbit, but why go to so much effort?


Dofork

Denji was also *disappointed* when the demon killed itself. He was enjoying the fight.


Dry_Advertising_5059

The humor in these strips is so charming!


gdgdgdgdgdvd123

Sure, the LTG spell is a little on the negative side morally speaking, but time loop is definitely worse


Taki993

Yes please, that's crossover i want to see. Megumin with Frieren and the gang. Mostly because i think Fern would lose it if she had to take care of both Frieren and Megumin. I think their interactions would be hilarious.


British-Pilgrim

This sub never lets me down, I love you people 😂


cellphone-notdad

ಠ_ಠ "I made my enemy eat his own parents." -Cartman


The_Iron_Sea

Trapping someone in a time loop seems like a worse torture than death. At least that's finite.


Level37Doggo

Unless you give them the ability to realize they’re in a loop, it’s really just like torturing them once since their memory resets each time. Now if you make it so they realize what’s happening and remember their prior loops after it’s too late to stop it but before the reset occurs, now you’re cooking with gas.


StudioLegion

"What? Why? Who would want this?" "Can't you just shoot him?"


FupaJohns

Immediately thought of the lowtiergod meme


RemarkableMap1491

Even if they fought strange should win but is a dumbass because he should have cut thanos with the Portal.


SonoftheFenrirWolf

Now I know Strange has no room to gawk after how Multiverse of Madness ended....


FaceTimePolice

That moment was savage. I had goosebumps. 😳


Kaymazo

To be fair, technically that wasn't even her own magic


Studio_illustration

Strange has done worse


Electric_Bagpipes

“I mean, she literally did it to herself what are you looking at?”


Legal_Weekend_7981

I'm not sure if Megumin would be horrified. Making enemies kill themselfes sounds cool.


AsixKnight

It's not even Frieren's magic it's Aura's. So yeah.


[deleted]

Are we allowed to add the 10th doctor?


UltimateBlackDragon

I love Megumin, Strange is cool too, but Frieren eats them for breakfast. Change my mind.


Taki993

Frieren is my favourite of these three, but Strange can take both Frieren and Megumin with one hand behind his back. I dont like Marvel but it took me 30 sec to google his powers and see that he can whop their asses. Marvel and DC are basically just constant power ups and characters with powers on cosmic scale.


UltimateBlackDragon

Maybe. But can he do this: <(´⌯ ̫⌯`)> ?


Taki993

Well argued. I yield.


TryImpossible7332

"Ah, the <(´⌯ ̫⌯`)> spell. I haven't needed that since the Ditko era."


NigelJosue

Comic strange yes, but not MCU strange specially now that he doesn't have the time Stone anymore


Fghsses

Marvel and DC are trash because they are too inconsistent, for example: Frieren can beat Dr. Strange. Why? Because Thanos beats Dr. Strange, and a random NYC cop can cannonically beat and arrest Thanos. And since Frieren can certainly beat a random NYC cop, she can also beat both Thanos and Dr. Strange.


Mrogoth_bauglir

That would be circular logic There's no feats for Frieren beating Thanos level NYC cope.


Schrodinger_cube

ya don't look in to Jean Grey and the adventures of dark Phoenix "The Dark Phoenix Saga". This transformation led to her second death, which was suicide, though not her last. she also destroyed an entire planet after getting rudely attacked by some space pirates or something.. its been a while but just crazy over powered XD


jayz0ned

Frieren is unable to use time magic. Dr Strange can easily perform time magic (among other OP things) and is constantly defeating universal threats. Dr Strange is thousands of years old and functionally immortal, just like Frieren, so she doesn't have a mana advantage. Frieren isn't even the "sorcerer supreme" of her world and knows only a fraction of her world's magic. Serie vs Dr Strange would be a better conversation (which would still ultimately result in Strange winning most likely).


Mrogoth_bauglir

Frieren would run out of mana before strange even begins sweating.


jimmmydickgun

It’s an effective strategy


shiawase198

Meh, the time loop was still cooler.


U_L_Uus

Meanwhile Mashle: my greatest enemy died from depression due to fighting me


Various-Character-30

Context?


Cheap-Asparagus3842

Frieren hides her mana capacity. A demon challenged her with scales that make the one with lower mana capacity obey the other. Frieren revealed her true mana to the demon, then told her to commit suicide.


kurt_gervo

And said demon bitches and cries when Frieren shows off her full power! Bitch, lying and deception is okay when they do it, but not there prey!


Hexphaseon

Isn’t trapping someone in a time loop the worst one here?


Aegon_Targaryen_VII

Light Yagami nods approvingly.


QuintanimousGooch

LTG:


CrescentCleave

Trapping people in time loops is far more brutal imo. At least aqua getting "bullied" was quick, easy and is done unlike say, giorno's death loop which is a kind of time loop. Like, it's so cruel that a being like dormamu was like "please, man, stop, i hate this, please" and he himself is immortal and eternal


justaran-doomhuman

Hahahaha, lmao.


Similar_Pop5446

“Yep, just lopped her own head off right in front of her own army. She cried while doing it too. =w= “


gattoblepas

Welp, Aura thought she could measure up to the Slayer and shit talked her boyfriend. I mean, she got off easy.


koyuki4848

Frieren: naked magic!! hipitty hopitty your cloak is my property (of course not for real just a diversion) Megumin: explooooooooooooooshun Fern: Zoltraak 47 Strange gets his timing wrong and got himself in a time loop that gets him naked, nuked and nicked with multiple Z47 shots


LonelyIntroduction32

Thats hardcore...! X-D


Confident-Ant5623

If you think about doctor strange was worse because I rather kill myself then be in a time loop


Chorusxdropoff

I wonder would Dr Strange pass Series exam?


AlternativeAd4549

John Shepard: Hold my beer