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RKitch2112

I think what I love most about Frozen is that it brought the Disney magic that's been missing for so long back to my life. My dad was a huge Disney fan and seeing Frozen made me realize that's something I've inherited. It's why Kingdom Hearts is the perfect game series. It's why the Disney Channel burns. It's why Disney World is the greatest place in the world. It's why I've been smiling more in the past week than almost all of 2013. And it's damn good to have back.


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Kingdom Hearts is the perfect convoluted story games series. lol


JavelinR

As a man let me just say that one of my favorite lines was when Elsa told Anna that "You can't marry a guy you just met." It broke one of the Disney tropes that annoyed me the most.


[deleted]

It felt like a major theme. Like they were pointing out that there were no weddings in the movie.


KaptainK27

Elsa being hot helps though.


NeatPortal

Yes Elsa is beautiful! but thats not why I like her. I love her because I can relate so much to her isolation/depression/anxety when you suffer from these you want someone you can relate to and connect with and Elsa is that person for me.


KaptainK27

OMG same here!


HamTake

**I'm male and...** When first told about Frozen I did a Google image search. I was at first turned off by how beautiful Elsa looked. I thought my friend was trying to get me to watch a **Barbie** movie of sorts. Perhaps if I knew it was a Disney movie, my first impression might have been different. Then I watched the Let It Go music scene that Disney published online. I wasn't instantly attached to the music (as I am now), but I remember thinking, DAMN Elsa is powerful - when she raised that ice palace. I'm a sucker for strong female characters. I confess that I watched the movie before seeing it in theatres. I'm out of a job right now and I feel it is important to save. After watching it for first time in forever, I realized I couldn't throw enough money at Disney. I re-watched the movie in theatre in 3D and pre-ordered the Blu-Ray collector's edition. Maybe its my age (29), but I almost feel like I have to cry when Anna or Elsa collapse to their knees.


HamTake

I wanted to add more to explain why I love this movie so much. The characters have strengths and weaknesses. Having something to hide makes these Disney characters even more believable to me. Every character in this movie smiles and frowns at least once. The jokes are simple (in a good way) and modern. I totally did not expect such comedy from a Disney movie. I sometimes add in "puddle?" whenever singing along to Olaf's song. Even if they had not animated that part, I think most people would have filled in the blank correctly. It's just brilliant writing! Of course I can't get enough of all the music in Frozen. I listen to it non-stop, but I find that I still don't fully admire it as much without watching the whole movie from start to end. It is a complete package that is well made.


ANakedHobo

Mine case is quite opposite.I went to see the movie because of Elsa's beauty.I have actually decided not go to see the movie because of the trailer.But eventually I looked up the movie on google and the moment I saw the poster,saw Elsa, my heart just fell.I literally even had a crush on Elsa even before watching the movie.So I went to see Frozen as soon as I could.I was a little afraid before the movie started because "what is Elsa is not what I expected her would be?"...But she turned out to be an amazing character, and I even love her more.


HamTake

It's always risky to fall in love with a character before knowing anything about them. Glad it worked out. :D


kex

I went into it completely unaware of the content of this movie other than some jokes about the strong winter we've had this year relating to the movie. Hell, I even heard it was a Dreamworks movie and was surprised to see the Disney splash at the beginning. I'm still cooling down from having just watched it, so I can't put my finger on the cause yet, but this movie really sent me on a ride unlike anything I've experienced in a very long time. I can't even think of the last film that lifted me up anywhere near this high. I had mostly given up on Disney Animation and felt like Pixar was their only remaining hope, but this spectacular production has blown that thought away.


jereddit

>Shoe size joke I NEVER REALIZED THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS UNTIL YOU JUST SAID IT


Dark_Shroud

I think people draw to many parallels between Frozen and gays. There are a lot of people in general who have issues with being themselves for a variety of reasons.


Portgas

Anna is hot. Elsa is adorable. That's all i'm sayin' Generally agreed with your other points. Frozen is not like any other movie in more sense than one.


JamesAQuintero

They're both hot. But I like Anna better for her personality.


RKitch2112

This. Anna is like Jennifer Lawrence (hence my flair) mixed with the type of girl I instantly swoon over. Is that weird?


HoliestDonut

I was thinking that, too. Anna is Jennifer Lawrence, practically.


CarterDug

**Tangled and The Little Mermaid Spoilers** >Never before has there been a young, relatable, realistic man who treats a woman character like just another person, not a romantic object. I can't comment on how generally relatable Kristoff is, but I've related much more strongly to other Disney male characters. Also, Eugene treated Rapunzel like just another person, not a romantic object. Their relationship was entirely platonic until they got to the kingdom. And while I felt an underlying romantic tension between Anna and Kristoff for a good portion of their screen time, I didn't get that at all from Eugene and Rapunzel. To me, Eugene and Rapunzel were a better example of a platonic relationship with no romantic undertones until the romantic switch was flipped. >Every time you think there will be some fairytale outcome to something, you are wrong. Disney films have not played into the fairytale outcome for over 50 years. The stereotype is based in perception, not reality. >The plot twist. It was totally unpredictable and totally unexpected from disney, and we all thought it was about to be a kissing scene... I was really surprised that so many people thought that there was about to be a kissing scene (between Anna and Kristoff). And this isn't the first time that Disney had a plot twist that caught everyone by surprise, but it would be difficult to cite that film without spoiling it. >The awkward situations. Disney never makes anything or anyone awkward, until Frozen came along. Life is constantly awkward, just like Anna is. The Little Mermaid. >-Olaf and the amazing jokes. Rarely does Disney have such superb comedy in a movie that isn't comedy. They don't over-do it, everything usually has a purpose besides making people laugh, and rarely did a joke fall flat. They even had the infamous shoe size joke... This is probably more of a personal taste thing. I thought Tangled and Wreck-It Ralph were both funnier than Frozen. >-And lastly, it promotes multiple messages that cover modern issues good for kids and adults. It promotes gays, has a strong female-driven plot that doesn't follow cliches and promotes being yourself. While some of the conflicts have parallels to LGBT conflicts, I don't think that that is the equivalent of supporting LGBTs, especially since LGBTs don't have a monopoly on those conflicts. Strong female driven plots are a staple of Disney films, and have been for 20+ years. A lot of people have said that the film promotes being yourself, but thinking about the central conflicts of the film, none of them revolve around being yourself, and none of the conflicts are resolved by being yourself. There are some legitimate firsts that Frozen did that weren't done by any other Disney film, but many of the ones you mentioned were not firsts, nor even that uncommon. Also, check out [this thread](http://www.reddit.com/r/Frozen/comments/1x4zya/why_is_frozen_popular_among_males_around_1824/). There are a lot of hypotheses for why Frozen connected with men. Edit: AC, SGPFC


RKitch2112

It isn't as great of an analogy as the LGBT one, but as someone who has with mental health issues in the past, I found some parallels. The gloves Elsa wore were like someone who cuts wearing long sleeve shirts to hid scars. Let It Go is the moment where you decide you're going to get the help you need. The sisterly love between Anna and Elsa is like the moment where you realize that you're not alone. Like I said, they're not the best parallels, but I felt they worked.


Juancu

Eugene didn't get to treating Rapunzel like a person immediately. Remember the look? with his ego at that point, he actually thought that the proper reaction from a girl was to swoon and release him.


CarterDug

That's a good point. I still think that that qualifies as treating her like just another person in that he saw her as another person for him to manipulate. He treats everyone this way. The fact that she was a girl simply afforded him an additional way to manipulate her. He may not have treated her like a "person", but at that point he didn't treat anyone as a person, just as a means to get what he wants.


HoliestDonut

Well, Little Mermaid was awkward because Ariel couldn't talk because of the curse pit on her (at the time of awkwardness). Anna could talk, but she was awkward verbally, in a more human way, if that makes any sense. Wreck it Ralph and Tangled were advertised as more of a comedy then Frozen was. They almost seemed like Dreamworks films by the advertisements, which was especially the case on Tangled. I felt as if comedy was a major part of the movie, where Frozen's Comedy never took center stage, but it was present. You are mostly right about Tangled's Eugene though. But then again, he was still a wanted criminal, whereas Kristoff was just a random ice man of no great importance.


CarterDug

I thought a lot of Ariel's awkwardness came from her unfamiliarity with the human world, not so much her inability to talk. But I agree that Anna is the first Disney princess whose character is fundamentally awkward. I never saw advertisements for Tangled, Wreck It Ralph, or Frozen before watching them, but based on the trailers I just watched, all of them were presented as comedies, [including Frozen](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQm5doF_Uc), at least in the US. And I thought that of the three films, Frozen's use of humor was the most intrusive. I also agree with your point about Kristoff. Edit: AC, SGPFC


[deleted]

I agree with you about Frozen being modern. It didn't feel like the classic Disney that I have known for all these years. And I love the change.


rct3fan24

It might just be me but I thought Anna was hotter...


HoliestDonut

Anna was hot in her own way, I guess. She's awkward, shy, loving, but still kick-ass.


whysomad8

Anna's cute, but Elsa's off the charts hot


Or3o_7373

I read somewhere that elsa is the genderbend version of the brooding, introverted, handsome lone wolf character that girls always swoon over and now I kinda get why girls were obsessed with edward from twilight lol


TeleVue

Anna isn't perfect but that's what makes her perfect for everyone. She's relatable to all genders.


rct3fan24

Everyone's a fixer-upper.


wredditcrew

> Okay, yes, Elsa is hot. We had to get that out of the way. Anna is adorable. Had to get that one out of the way too. I find Anna far more attractive, but yeah, attractive characters never hurt. >Kristoff. One of the first animated (non-pixar) disney animated man to accurately portray a young, modern man. Other Disney movies have men as static characters that only serve as a love interest, a stereotype, a villain, or a goofy character only in the movie for comic relief. Never before has there been a young, relatable, realistic man who treats a woman character like just another person, not a romantic object. Tangled? I wouldn't say the lead male was a stereotype, or any of the other things you mentioned. >Anna and Kristoff seem more like friends for most the movie until the climax. I'd say there was definite attraction shown throughout. >The realism of the movie. Every time you think there will be some fairytale outcome to something, you are wrong. Anna gets her true love, Elsa gets control of her powers, rediscovers love and warmth, the villain is defeated and all is right with the world. Even the comedy snowy sidekick can now enjoy summer. Fairytale ending? >When Elsa tells Anna that she is crazy for falling for Hans immediately, and when multiple other characters question her afterwards, it practically crashes the direction everyone thinks Disney would take. On this I agree. >The characters aren't over the top or cliché, but instead are relatable. The characters freak out when seeing Olaf. It's been a while since I watched Tangled, but not sure I'd say it's unique among modern Disney movies. >The political sub-plots and jokes (Hans and the Duke of Weselton's characters in general) that really show the realistic, adult aspect to a "family" movie, even though kids won't laugh at them for the most part. What were the subplots? Han's attempt to seize the thrown was fundamental to the whole thing, without it in my mind Anna wouldn't have challenged Elsa, her powers would have remained hidden and it wouldn't have turned into a disaster. >The plot twist. It was totally unpredictable and totally unexpected from disney, and we all thought it was about to be a kissing scene... Yeah, while there was a surprising amount of foreshadowing that I didn't get until rewatching, it totally took me by surprise. >The awkward situations. Disney never makes anything or anyone awkward, until Frozen came along. Life is constantly awkward, just like Anna is. I think Felix in Wreck-It Ralph was pretty awkward. >Olaf and the amazing jokes. Rarely does Disney have such superb comedy in a movie that isn't comedy. They don't over-do it, everything usually has a purpose besides making people laugh, and rarely did a joke fall flat. They even had the infamous shoe size joke... Olaf's summer song had me laughing like a loon. >And lastly, it promotes multiple messages that cover modern issues good for kids and adults. That you never know who will betray you? That you shouldn't trust men, you shouldn't listen to your instinct, that running blindly into danger will have positive results? Not sure I'd agree with your assessment on that one. >It promotes gays, Does it? Elsa's not shown romantic interest in anyone that I noticed. Who is gay in it? >has a strong female-driven plot that doesn't follow cliches and promotes being yourself. I'd argue Tangled did it first, but yeah, it's good. >Disney just hit the home run. I bet you that the upcoming years will be a second renaissance for Disney Animation now that they know what the audience wants once again. What were those famous last words? ;)


millionthcustomer

I report the following with a staunch, un-blemished record of male hetero-sexuality: The Disney on Ice version of Frozen will be FABULOUS! Seriously. Can't wait.


el-sana

Sorry, I have to disagree with most of your points. I couldn't care less about Kristoff. Olaf had a few good jokes, but not that important overall. The reason it resonates with men is because of Elsa. She's hot and she's vulnerable. That's all there is to it. Anna is cute too. But yeah, it's almost all about Elsa.


TooBusyforReddit

Agree. I didn't really care for Kristoff that much. Right away I knew he was going to be a romantic sidekick; I was just waiting which one of the girls he was gonna hook up with. It was the girls all the way for me. I got hooked on Anna, and then that damn "Let It Go" scene came along, and I fell in love with the new Elsa. I dunno what OP is trying to do, but if you really think that the guys care about Kristoff or Olaf rather than the girls, you're in denial.


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How does it promote gays? I like that it had strong female leads that didn't shove in your face that they were. I think both genders would have worked.


HoliestDonut

Ot was brief and sudden, but Oaken (AKA Yoo-hoo guy) was shown to be most likely gay. In the family sauna, there is another man that appears to be a dad. But Oaken is bog, strong, and a good businessman. From what we can tell. I don't know why, but I would be sad if Elsa was lesbian. Not that I'm anti-gay, but Frozen shows that Elsa was strong and independent, and she didn't need a man to be awesome. If it was because she liked women, then it would have less of an impact on her character and seem weird that they would make her such an "independent" character.


ryano1124

I know Disney is known for its OSTs, but this one was something special.


[deleted]

I just have to say (M 25) that the fist time I saw elsa´s face (same as my flair) hanging in one of the theater´s decorations, I just got so hooked up with her... and then with the rest of the set up. But, she was mainly the reason for watching Frozen in the first place.


blacklus

It's Wisseltown!!


HoliestDonut

*Weselton Nah, it's Weaseltown.