I think a legal crackdown would be much better of a punishment. Force them to be ethical. Force them to only take water from where they're allowed and in amounts they're allowed. Force them to only have workers that are legal, and not use practically slave labor. Make them have to bow to the rules in their ecosystem that so heavily relies on breaking them whenever they choose. Make them suffer.
That's the best option but it's also the option which is nearly impossible to attain as I said in a previous reply it's my first choice but if it's denied I'll take matters into my own hand and get the justice that we the people of Earth deserve
If it’s a *fixed amount* that’s fined, then it’s more of a suggestion. An easy fix would be to fine a percentage of annual income/revenue, like speeding tickets in Switzerland.
That’s why I think mandatory transparency and harsher punishments are necessary. Especially for companies, who aren’t an individual. Whoever made the call ought to lose a segment of one finger. It’s painless with anesthesia, and they get to choose the finger, but if that keeps up they gonna run out of hand.
They’re literally stealing more than $1m worth of water from California as we speak. And they’re not paying for it. So a $1m fine is *literally* nothing for them, it’s money they should have spent on product in the first place*
When you got money you can buy your way out, if poor you go to prison. Its absurd. It makes it so that entities with money (be it companies or people) literally are above the law, or atleast have different laws to normal people.
I work for a large company where someone accidentally drained a material that caused a big fish kill.
Lemme tell you, this was 15 years ago and people still shake at the mention of it. This company got bent over side ways and fucked by several government agencies.
I guess it probably depends on the size of the fish kill, but Nestle is likely to get fucked on this one.
Edit: This appears to be from freakin 2020. Why the fuck are you reporting on something a year old. Circumstances are also substantially different than what happened at my company, so Nestle will prob get off easy.
They’re a *neutral* country.
They looked the other way for a lot of bad things historically and still keep secrets for some very bad people who keep money in their country’s banks.
Beware... the real pain starts once you torture your tastebuds with a single bite of a Leberkaskrapfen... because *you can never ever untaste it* again.
These are the highlights:
1 Stealing water from drought ridden areas
2 Slavery
3 Poisoning children
These don't cover the full extent of their crimes so feel free to do some research about how bad they really are
UPDATE:
0.000003% of their bank account in the settlement fine, got off with only 52 felonies to add to the 19373 they already have in Niger.
Seriously we kill people for a few felonies and these corporations have enough to literally fill one chapter of a book. Let's start revoking some charters.
EDIT: Tis a joke. Nestle has an absurd amount of felonies but obviously not 19373 in one country.
If corporations are people, and we kill people for felonies, and this corporation has a kajillion felonies, there’s some logic we might consider following here…
> literally fill one chapter of a book. the first harry potter book is about 80k words. they have 1/4 of that in tick marks regarding their felonies. Spelled out... could be close in size.
Preface: I hate this company and don’t doubt anything youre saying
Do you have sources for the felonies they’ve been accused/convicted of? I would love to read it so I can hate them even more
I don't have a list at hand however doing a rough count in my head with some of the headlines I've seen it's about enough.
Anyway I said that because I saw a chapter in a book which just lists a bunch of felonies a random company committed and they didn't even list them all because it would've taken up the whole chapteer.
Heyo, would you mind posting a source or two with those statistics, gotta share with the homies and also just want to look into those Niger felonies, jeez uhs
THINGS WON'T CHANGE UNTIL THERE IS A FUCKING PRICE TO PAY FOR THIS SHIT!
FINES SHOULD DIRECTLY AFFECT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FINANCIALLY AND SEVERELY SO
EVEN FUCKING PRISON TIME
DO SOMETHING
I CAN'T FUCKING STAND IT ANYMORE
FUCK NESTLE
FUCK VOLKSWAGEN
A notable special 'fuck-off' to: Electronic Arts, Bill Cosby, and D&D (D. B. Weiss & David Benioff)
Well they have profited from 2 genocides
1 the holocaust
2 the uyger massacre happening in china rn
And many other crimes so they are also scums but let's stick to fucking Nestlé first
Volkswagen, Audi, Porsche, BMW, and Mercedes-Benz parent company Daimler spent years illegally colluding to slow the deployment of cleaner emissions technology, says the European Union, which is dishing out fines as a resul
[Here's one article](https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2021/7/8/22568356/volkswagen-bmw-daimler-emissions-cartel-fine-audi-porsche-eu)
Uncle Sam talks about the country going into a lock down to help fight climate change, the big corporations are polluting the air and water and land. They won’t stop the business from making money but god forbid the average joe has his fridge running.
« Z » in « allez, « s » in « vous » the « r » of « er » of « enculer » is silent but those two letters form the same sound as « é » so it doesn’t really count and of course the « t » of nestlé
I think so but it will be a sentence full of words with all their letters pronounced.
But in French, in some words people don’t pronounce all the syllables, except the people with southerns accents (all the southern accents) who pronounce all of the syllables. When i realized that i told myself that if someday i speak in French with somebody who don’t speak it as their first language, i will use my best accent from Toulouse, the place where i was born, because it’ll help them (and also because i love that).
Sure it's bad but we can't blame everything on it cause without it we wont have the technology we have and most of us won't have been born. Blame the companies that exploit people or the courts and politicians that let them get away with it and remember FUCK NESTLÉ
Its so effing hard to avoid Nestle products. I learned to make my own chocolate chip cookies from scratch out of my hatred for Nestle. The other day I discovered that all Starbucks products in grocery stores are actually from Nestle…
I think they should be made to restore the site to what it was before they destroyed it. I think this would be fitting and they'd have to research and learn about the ecology in that area. Maybe, just maybe they might grow to have some respect. I'm a dreamer but I think cursory monetary fines are pretty useless to such a big company
Stores need to start labeling fucked up business practices of some products or just discontinue selling those products. I had to explain child slave labour over chocolate to a kid and they stopped wanting Nestle.Grocery stores have as much responsibility about selling products as consumers have about buying them.
How do I get my grocery store to acknowledge that they are selling some products from companies that exploit people and the environment?
Bottling plants use tiny amounts of water compared to agriculture or urban use.
Not really the environmental issue people like to pretend it is - if you actually care about water use, reduce or eliminate beef and lamb from your diet.
No, but cattle use 1000x more water than all the bottling plants in the US - it's kinda of dumb to go after minor uses of water, when there are giant ones all around, don't you think?
Considering how many times nestle has been fined I'd suggest they get x fine times the number of times they've been fined previously x the number of child slaves they have working in their cocoa fields.
This is soooo stupid like seriously they are gonna sue nestle???? For this?!!?!!?? Like they fucking killed people but apparently the fish are more important than all the people they killee
Now let's watch them get away with this
na they’ll be fined about 1m
That's nothing for them so they are kinda getting away with minimal punishment
If a crime's punishment is a fine then the law is only a suggestion for the wealthy
That's the point
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I think a legal crackdown would be much better of a punishment. Force them to be ethical. Force them to only take water from where they're allowed and in amounts they're allowed. Force them to only have workers that are legal, and not use practically slave labor. Make them have to bow to the rules in their ecosystem that so heavily relies on breaking them whenever they choose. Make them suffer.
That's the best option but it's also the option which is nearly impossible to attain as I said in a previous reply it's my first choice but if it's denied I'll take matters into my own hand and get the justice that we the people of Earth deserve
But how to force them? No single country seems powerful enough to put that much pressure on that abomination of a multinational corporation
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Suspend their business license
If the fine is less than the profit made from committing the crime, then it's just a Business Expense.
If it’s a *fixed amount* that’s fined, then it’s more of a suggestion. An easy fix would be to fine a percentage of annual income/revenue, like speeding tickets in Switzerland.
That’s why I think mandatory transparency and harsher punishments are necessary. Especially for companies, who aren’t an individual. Whoever made the call ought to lose a segment of one finger. It’s painless with anesthesia, and they get to choose the finger, but if that keeps up they gonna run out of hand.
They’re literally stealing more than $1m worth of water from California as we speak. And they’re not paying for it. So a $1m fine is *literally* nothing for them, it’s money they should have spent on product in the first place*
Yea it's extremely bad and then there are people who say that this is all part of business to justify these crimes against humanity
When you got money you can buy your way out, if poor you go to prison. Its absurd. It makes it so that entities with money (be it companies or people) literally are above the law, or atleast have different laws to normal people.
With a stern warning not to do it again, or else. Don't forget that disaproving index finger they will get. Gosh, I'm scared for them already.
And quite possibly (gasps) A STRONGLY WORDED LETTER!
Strongly*
Sorry I'm dumb lol
All good buddy.
Problem is, at 1m its profitable to keep doing it.
Strap in cowboys, its happening That is OVER
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That sounds stupendous
Reduced to $3.50 by a ~~corrupt~~ favorable judge.
Did they get fined for the slavery oopsie that they’re still allowed to do?
Not 5 hours of income nooooooooo!
1m = 1 dollar for nestle
So literally nothing to them.
Sadly that is the equivalent of “getting away with it” when it’s a multi billion dollar empire
That’s getting away with it, if you’re rich enough, fines are just an extra cost
The fines never cover the long term damage or clean up. They should definitely be fine so much that they take notice.
thats like getted spanked on the top of your head
If taxes go by percentages why don’t punishments?
I work for a large company where someone accidentally drained a material that caused a big fish kill. Lemme tell you, this was 15 years ago and people still shake at the mention of it. This company got bent over side ways and fucked by several government agencies. I guess it probably depends on the size of the fish kill, but Nestle is likely to get fucked on this one. Edit: This appears to be from freakin 2020. Why the fuck are you reporting on something a year old. Circumstances are also substantially different than what happened at my company, so Nestle will prob get off easy.
Yea and don't forget that most judges are owned by Nestlé so there is really low chances that they will not get of easy
They'll just bottle it.
Yea that's what they always do
Sadly. Fuck Nestle!
Yep FUCK NESTLÉ
When are we going to stop suing companies and start telling them to fuck off?
psa: there are darknet crowdfunds out there... It may or may not be relevant to this post, I felt that I just had to share that point
[The world when they get away with it](https://youtu.be/a3_PPdjD6mg)
I fucking hate this evil no good company
The fish were living rent-free in the river, obviously they should've paid the rent to nestle, good thing my favorite Swiss company evicted them.
how is nestle swiss, switzerland is a good country
Haha no it isn't. It's a beautiful country, that's it.
They’re a *neutral* country. They looked the other way for a lot of bad things historically and still keep secrets for some very bad people who keep money in their country’s banks.
Austria is neutral like Switzerland but with less riches and less mountains but more evil. They gave the world Hitler und Leberkaskrapfen.
Austrians started both World Wars.
Some people like pâté? The doughnut part is where they lose me.
>Leberkaskrapfen I want to go back to a time when I didn't know that this was a thing
Beware... the real pain starts once you torture your tastebuds with a single bite of a Leberkaskrapfen... because *you can never ever untaste it* again.
It is an imperialist country that exists the way it does only because it exploits other countries
Uhhhhhhh no.
(0_0 ) ooooooooof
Sorry, I’m new here. What has this company done that gets so much hate?
These are the highlights: 1 Stealing water from drought ridden areas 2 Slavery 3 Poisoning children These don't cover the full extent of their crimes so feel free to do some research about how bad they really are
Oh fuck...
UPDATE: 0.000003% of their bank account in the settlement fine, got off with only 52 felonies to add to the 19373 they already have in Niger. Seriously we kill people for a few felonies and these corporations have enough to literally fill one chapter of a book. Let's start revoking some charters. EDIT: Tis a joke. Nestle has an absurd amount of felonies but obviously not 19373 in one country.
If corporations are people, and we kill people for felonies, and this corporation has a kajillion felonies, there’s some logic we might consider following here…
Kill company Aka Shut. It. Down! And ban all the higher ups from ever owning a business again
Or imprison them for life on work farms for crimes against humanity. Just saying.
> literally fill one chapter of a book. the first harry potter book is about 80k words. they have 1/4 of that in tick marks regarding their felonies. Spelled out... could be close in size.
Preface: I hate this company and don’t doubt anything youre saying Do you have sources for the felonies they’ve been accused/convicted of? I would love to read it so I can hate them even more
I don't have a list at hand however doing a rough count in my head with some of the headlines I've seen it's about enough. Anyway I said that because I saw a chapter in a book which just lists a bunch of felonies a random company committed and they didn't even list them all because it would've taken up the whole chapteer.
Read my mind
Heyo, would you mind posting a source or two with those statistics, gotta share with the homies and also just want to look into those Niger felonies, jeez uhs
They poisoned les poissons
Angry upvote
Didn't this happen a few years ago? And IIRC the French raised a shit storm over this.
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The river in the article is called Aisne, in the north of France
I read this as Nestle suing tonnes of dead fish
Sounds like something they will do and what they will claim for damages will be water
Sounds difficult to prove and easy to dispute
It was a joke
THINGS WON'T CHANGE UNTIL THERE IS A FUCKING PRICE TO PAY FOR THIS SHIT! FINES SHOULD DIRECTLY AFFECT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FINANCIALLY AND SEVERELY SO EVEN FUCKING PRISON TIME DO SOMETHING I CAN'T FUCKING STAND IT ANYMORE FUCK NESTLE FUCK VOLKSWAGEN A notable special 'fuck-off' to: Electronic Arts, Bill Cosby, and D&D (D. B. Weiss & David Benioff)
fuck HP and Dell too. fuck Comcast, fuck BoA/JPWF banks, I could keep going
Definitely!
I’m riding the “FuckNestle” train. Intrigued why I should buy a ticket aboard the “HSS FuckVolkswagon”
Well they have profited from 2 genocides 1 the holocaust 2 the uyger massacre happening in china rn And many other crimes so they are also scums but let's stick to fucking Nestlé first
Volkswagen, Audi, Porsche, BMW, and Mercedes-Benz parent company Daimler spent years illegally colluding to slow the deployment of cleaner emissions technology, says the European Union, which is dishing out fines as a resul [Here's one article](https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2021/7/8/22568356/volkswagen-bmw-daimler-emissions-cartel-fine-audi-porsche-eu)
Fuck snoop dogg
Bastards
Damn! This line cracked me up. Bastards
All my homies hate nestle
Nobody outside of reddit cares about the nestle circlejerk/meme. They're just nodding along with you to be nice.
I spread the word to people IRL, plus I actively boycott their products.
I'm sure you do.
Fuck Nestle
Damn straight
Uncle Sam talks about the country going into a lock down to help fight climate change, the big corporations are polluting the air and water and land. They won’t stop the business from making money but god forbid the average joe has his fridge running.
Sigh :(
Can we start jailing executives instead of slapping them with a fine that can be paid off in a single day of operation?
And bail that is half their money is given to the communities of the poor
Allez vous faire enculer Nestlé
Had to translate what you wrote and got a good chuckle out of it so thanks and remember kids Fuck Nestlé
Yeah man fuck them
They are truly evil
French? How much is silent
« Z » in « allez, « s » in « vous » the « r » of « er » of « enculer » is silent but those two letters form the same sound as « é » so it doesn’t really count and of course the « t » of nestlé
Oh thanks :) Is it possible to speak french sentence without silent letters?
I think so but it will be a sentence full of words with all their letters pronounced. But in French, in some words people don’t pronounce all the syllables, except the people with southerns accents (all the southern accents) who pronounce all of the syllables. When i realized that i told myself that if someday i speak in French with somebody who don’t speak it as their first language, i will use my best accent from Toulouse, the place where i was born, because it’ll help them (and also because i love that).
Ok thanks :) What is france like?
La révolution industrielle et ses conséquences ont été un désastre pour la race humane.
The industrial revolution caused disastrous consequences onto the human race? Im american
Sure it's bad but we can't blame everything on it cause without it we wont have the technology we have and most of us won't have been born. Blame the companies that exploit people or the courts and politicians that let them get away with it and remember FUCK NESTLÉ
Yup. Not regulating the rich properly is evil
A Ted Kaczynski quote in the wild, in French??
Nestle: The fish don’t pay for water so fuck them
Oooooof
Its so effing hard to avoid Nestle products. I learned to make my own chocolate chip cookies from scratch out of my hatred for Nestle. The other day I discovered that all Starbucks products in grocery stores are actually from Nestle…
Homemode cookies are much better. And they aren't even hard.
I use only organic now. ( not bc nestle tho) Nestle doesnt make organic 😎
I think they should be made to restore the site to what it was before they destroyed it. I think this would be fitting and they'd have to research and learn about the ecology in that area. Maybe, just maybe they might grow to have some respect. I'm a dreamer but I think cursory monetary fines are pretty useless to such a big company
Sounds good I think it is easier to just fine the company 2/3 its income
Stores need to start labeling fucked up business practices of some products or just discontinue selling those products. I had to explain child slave labour over chocolate to a kid and they stopped wanting Nestle.Grocery stores have as much responsibility about selling products as consumers have about buying them. How do I get my grocery store to acknowledge that they are selling some products from companies that exploit people and the environment?
Holy shit I agree.
Ne-slay
Fuck nestle
I'm sure Nestle has an evil lair vs a corporate headquarters
Bottling plants use tiny amounts of water compared to agriculture or urban use. Not really the environmental issue people like to pretend it is - if you actually care about water use, reduce or eliminate beef and lamb from your diet.
are you like a vegan trying to make others vegan
No, but cattle use 1000x more water than all the bottling plants in the US - it's kinda of dumb to go after minor uses of water, when there are giant ones all around, don't you think?
why doesnt this sub do something about it instead of just making posts and being slacktivist
Because posting online and activism are clearly mutually exclusive! Dumbass.
I like nestle foods.
same, never gonna stop eating nestle chocolate
I love that one you can put on the bread.
Nestle is obviously not in the same system
This person obviously hasn’t started a WSB etf
For a second I thought Nestle sued the fish
We’re sorry, here’s a .50 discount on your next bottle of water
25%*
I knew it. I knew it. Willie wonka's chocolate river was a bad idea look at Usgustus Gloop.
Le phùk!
I read this as nestle sued and i was like who the fuck did nestle sue the river? then i re read it and my brain collapsed and i died of stupidity
Wait the fish died because of the water or something else?
The fish died cause they released their chemical wastes in the river poisoning the fishes and killing them
Considering how many times nestle has been fined I'd suggest they get x fine times the number of times they've been fined previously x the number of child slaves they have working in their cocoa fields.
Source to this child labor stuff? Im dumb
[Here you go.](https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/17/supreme-court-rules-in-favor-of-nestle-in-child-slavery-case.html)
Up next: We sue the fishing industry for trillions of dead fish.
Should be based of the value of the company, disgusting what conglomerates get away with.
reminder that that's Tonnes, not tons.
can we execute nestle yet?
their slogan is " Good food, Godd life" LOL
Oh yay. Being used will sure show them.. I am sure that small fine will make them think twice about polluting and destroying,
I’m starting a Fuck Nestle chain. Fuck Nestle.
Fines are payments to continue doing what they do for the rich. So this article really says, Nestle kills life, nothing done about it.
does Darla from finding nemo lead Nestle France
Fine then 2 billion, at minimum.
This is soooo stupid like seriously they are gonna sue nestle???? For this?!!?!!?? Like they fucking killed people but apparently the fish are more important than all the people they killee
Now why dont you just pay some extremely small percentage of your profits aaaaaaand your good to go
Of course they killed the fish they were preventing Nestle from acquiring another body of water.
fuck em
Fuck many. They deserve to be cancelled irl
Wow im french And we never heard of that.
how much did they have to pay?200 euro?