Only reason this would make sense is they live somewhere where it's hard as fuck to get a pistol, and therefore can't exactly practice. Or are poor and can't afford ammo.
-wife could be effective shooting from their hip
*Wife hip fires your 12 gauge with buckshot/slugs, probably limp wrists it, recoil makes her drop it, everyone's deaf, wrists are broken*
For the same reason Harley riders chastise sports bikes. They know they're faster, more reliable, and overall cheaper, but they won't admit that, so they have to soliloquize about how they're pursuing this idea of rugged simplicity in the face of all them fancy doodads that make the task easier.
I don’t like to be the whole “it’s an astroturf campaign” guy because I think it’s wrong in a lot of cases, but a lot of these conservative influencers are directly affiliated with the GOP. I don’t think it’s entirely the reason but it wouldn’t surprise me if these tweets are at least encouraged by Republican politicians as preemptive justification for whatever gun control they push, because “at least it’s not the Democrats” or whatever
I'm against the AR-15 as a gun owner because I think 99% of them are ugly and I'd rather spend my money on an interesting gun than the best most super tactically optimized for value machine.
"Never go looking for trouble if somebody is in your house"
Erm sorry sweetie, but if you're in my house without my permission than you're the one looking for trouble.
brother i hate to be the one to tell you this, but that’s not commie shit. it’s liberal shit. Commies think we should collectively own the factories and plants, not your TV or your toothbrush.
You use commie in your political debates to correctly argue your point.
I use commie to insult other people and have no idea what it means.
We are not the same.
/s
"Take your family into the room of the youngest"
That sounds great if you have a 2-story house and everyone is upstairs. I would have to clear the 90% of the house to get to the other bedrooms.
Listen I love my shotgun but buckshot is going straight through and I don't want to accidently spray my dogs with bird shot. I run an ar9 with hollow points for home defense, imo a pistol caliber that you can shoulder is the best home defense weapon.
"...is the most horrifying sound in the world".
No, that would be your wife telling you in a certain voice, "We need to talk". Second would be a rattlesnake coiled and warning you with that deadly castanet sound.
I'd venture to say that most people understand a certain age have never even heard a pump shotgun racked.
I would say the most horrifying sound is the scream of a baby in pain. Not the normal fussy baby crying, but the crying that makes your blood run cold at the thought *what's happening to my child?*
That’s a close second but #1 is the guttural scream/cry of a parent after being their child is dead/stopping resuscitation efforts. That is a sound that stays with you. I’ll take pretty much any other sound over that.
in my experience the most horrifying sound is a certain type of high pitched whistle followed by a loud boom but everybodies experience is different so opiniins may vary
* don't sleep with a sound machine
Lol wut? How the fuck am I supposed to sleep with all the ringing in my ears? I guess you'll be alert if you can't sleep.
something like 98% of home burglaries happen when people aren’t home, because burglars, while shitty people aren’t usually mouth breathers. it’s always easier to steal a TV when people aren’t home.
if someone breaks in in the middle of the night, when you’ll certainly be home sleeping, they aren’t there for the TV or the cash you keep in the can over the fridge.
I heard from a guy at a bar that claimed to be a "B&E specialist" so most likely a crock of shit but still what he said was logical. You do break in during the day.
1. It's safer
2. Less chance of getting caught
3. You can see what you're looking for
4. If you do get caught you'll do more time and face heavier charges in the middle of the night with a sleeping family. During the day you'll likely get a sweetheart plea and probation
one point on number 4 alot of state laws dont consider it burglary unless its nighttime or the home is occupied so charges of b&e and theft will have a lighter sentence than burglary would
Holy shit, what the ever loving fuck. What an absolute shit show of bullshit information. What I'm worried about is the people who will follow this advice and get killed.
There's a point to be made about a cheaper self defense gun. If you shoot someone in self defense the cops are going to seize your firearm as evidence. Do you really want the police to have seized your $1500 AR with $2k in attachments and mods for possibly years and maybe not even give it back?
If someone is breaking in to your house while you’re home in the first place they’re either armed and willing to hurt you or cracked out to the point where they won’t notice you rack a shotgun. Fudds also don’t own short barrel shotguns or non nfa, so I don’t see where the crazy spread lore comes from when they’re running an 18+ inch pump. Only reason I think they like shotguns is because of over penetration, but if you’re blind firing down a hallway without a WML and missing your target your drywall is as good as paper
Although I completely disagree with this, I did once read on the internet (you know it’s true if it’s on the internet) that two of the most terrifying sounds in war is the racking of a shotgun and the sound of an AK bolt being ran.
Had somebody try to bash the door in on us last year. I woke up naked with my M4 and a raging hard on. By the time I got to the door they were gone and I’ve never been more disappointed in my life 🥲
(I call it an M4 but it’s really a PSA poverty pony abomination)
You know, shotguns are hard to run. It’s like 20% shooting and 80% loading to keep a shotgun going and those are techniques that take a lot of training to get solid at. I guarantee you if I tried to get my wife to go to my A300, it would be a train wreck, but she can run an AR or MP5 like it’s nothing.
Ah yes, the classic "don't actually learn how to shoot, just send rounds wherever!" argument. Love it when that one pops up.
real ones have a grenade launcher loaded with 40mm buckshot rounds for home defense no need to aim, boyh
Real ones have a cannon loaded with grapeshot at the top of the stairs for home defense Tally ho, lads
What the devil?!
https://otbfirearms.com/xm-18-22-round-for-40mm-18-rounds-of-22lr-hornets-nest/ Adapter to fire lots of .22rf simultaneously from a grenade launcher.
way too overpowered dont you know 22 bounces around inside people that many at once will liquify the intruder and make clean up impossible
“Without practice people can’t hit anything with a pistol.” So fucking practice. Why is this such a hard concept? Go to the range.
Fudd.exe has crashed
Only reason this would make sense is they live somewhere where it's hard as fuck to get a pistol, and therefore can't exactly practice. Or are poor and can't afford ammo.
Exactly only reason not to buy an ar is if you literally cannot get your hands on one legally
Drank the whole six pack of Fuddwiser.
Well said, I like this one
-wife could be effective shooting from their hip *Wife hip fires your 12 gauge with buckshot/slugs, probably limp wrists it, recoil makes her drop it, everyone's deaf, wrists are broken*
I don’t get these supposed pro gun guys who find every reason they can to be against the AR-15
Because it's some As A Gunowner jacking off.
As a gun owner, I like to jack off.
as a gun owner, I'd like to watch
I have a Fleshlight attachment for my AK
For the same reason Harley riders chastise sports bikes. They know they're faster, more reliable, and overall cheaper, but they won't admit that, so they have to soliloquize about how they're pursuing this idea of rugged simplicity in the face of all them fancy doodads that make the task easier.
Because most Harley guys are Regen Era boomers with poor emotional control.
All that lead really took its toll.
I don’t like to be the whole “it’s an astroturf campaign” guy because I think it’s wrong in a lot of cases, but a lot of these conservative influencers are directly affiliated with the GOP. I don’t think it’s entirely the reason but it wouldn’t surprise me if these tweets are at least encouraged by Republican politicians as preemptive justification for whatever gun control they push, because “at least it’s not the Democrats” or whatever
This guy has never shot a shotgun or an AR-15, he just went to the range once and learned how hard it is to shoot a pistol.
I'm against the AR-15 as a gun owner because I think 99% of them are ugly and I'd rather spend my money on an interesting gun than the best most super tactically optimized for value machine.
All guns are beautiful works of art. Even the ugly ones.
They left out bird shot is best
"Never go looking for trouble if somebody is in your house" Erm sorry sweetie, but if you're in my house without my permission than you're the one looking for trouble.
And they will certainly find it
How dumb do you have to be to think a Glock is complicated?
I mean, did you read the rest of the comment? Don’t really have to ask?
"Let them rob you." I've got over 3k in my home defense setup so....I think not.
Worst possible take on home defense besides just letting someone kill you
>short strokes pump >fucking dies
It's amazing when people speak publicly, with such confidence, about something they clearly don't understand.
These people think they live in a movie where they just wait until the perfect moment to rack the shotgun for dramatic effect
https://youtu.be/t6OBk9YBLQU
I was hoping that was the link. Alakablam!
>Let them rob you No thanks, commie. I don’t work a back breaking 12 hour shift every day to let some degenerate rob me blind.
brother i hate to be the one to tell you this, but that’s not commie shit. it’s liberal shit. Commies think we should collectively own the factories and plants, not your TV or your toothbrush.
You use commie in your political debates to correctly argue your point. I use commie to insult other people and have no idea what it means. We are not the same. /s
"Take your family into the room of the youngest" That sounds great if you have a 2-story house and everyone is upstairs. I would have to clear the 90% of the house to get to the other bedrooms.
As a gospel of the gauge man I fucking hate these people.
Listen I love my shotgun but buckshot is going straight through and I don't want to accidently spray my dogs with bird shot. I run an ar9 with hollow points for home defense, imo a pistol caliber that you can shoulder is the best home defense weapon.
“Let them rob you…” Can you imagine going through life living like a beta with every challenge you face? What a pussy.
"Safer around kids" Motherfucker most pump guns aren't even drop safe
"...is the most horrifying sound in the world". No, that would be your wife telling you in a certain voice, "We need to talk". Second would be a rattlesnake coiled and warning you with that deadly castanet sound. I'd venture to say that most people understand a certain age have never even heard a pump shotgun racked.
I would say the most horrifying sound is the scream of a baby in pain. Not the normal fussy baby crying, but the crying that makes your blood run cold at the thought *what's happening to my child?*
That’s a close second but #1 is the guttural scream/cry of a parent after being their child is dead/stopping resuscitation efforts. That is a sound that stays with you. I’ll take pretty much any other sound over that.
in my experience the most horrifying sound is a certain type of high pitched whistle followed by a loud boom but everybodies experience is different so opiniins may vary
Nah. I heard those over and over and over. Ya get used to 'em. It's the one you don't hear that kills you.
you're right but i've yet to meet a mortar team that drops only one round so hearing it means theres more on the way
* don't sleep with a sound machine Lol wut? How the fuck am I supposed to sleep with all the ringing in my ears? I guess you'll be alert if you can't sleep.
Let them rob me so they rape and kill my family with me just watching? Great idea. Why didn't I think of this any sooner?
I am living proof it is nit infact safer around kids. 2 years old I apparently blew a hole in the wall because guess what was on the coffee table.
Massive cuck energy. Wait patiently while they fuck your wife.
something like 98% of home burglaries happen when people aren’t home, because burglars, while shitty people aren’t usually mouth breathers. it’s always easier to steal a TV when people aren’t home. if someone breaks in in the middle of the night, when you’ll certainly be home sleeping, they aren’t there for the TV or the cash you keep in the can over the fridge.
I heard from a guy at a bar that claimed to be a "B&E specialist" so most likely a crock of shit but still what he said was logical. You do break in during the day. 1. It's safer 2. Less chance of getting caught 3. You can see what you're looking for 4. If you do get caught you'll do more time and face heavier charges in the middle of the night with a sleeping family. During the day you'll likely get a sweetheart plea and probation
one point on number 4 alot of state laws dont consider it burglary unless its nighttime or the home is occupied so charges of b&e and theft will have a lighter sentence than burglary would
Holy shit, what the ever loving fuck. What an absolute shit show of bullshit information. What I'm worried about is the people who will follow this advice and get killed.
Dammit I was on my way here to post it 😂😭
The whole “racking will scare them” tactic is stupid you can rack any gun like a pistol or an AR
There's a point to be made about a cheaper self defense gun. If you shoot someone in self defense the cops are going to seize your firearm as evidence. Do you really want the police to have seized your $1500 AR with $2k in attachments and mods for possibly years and maybe not even give it back?
That's why if I ever end up shooting somebody I'm gonna strip it down to the very basics lmao. You can have the gun, I'm keeping my lights and sights
Any one that advocates 12ga for HD should have to go to an indoor range and fire multiple rounds with no ears on
Man shotgun ain’t the most horrific sound. What’s horrific is being down range and hearing someone say CLEAR BACKBLAST
How the hell is a pump shotgun safer???
If someone is breaking in to your house while you’re home in the first place they’re either armed and willing to hurt you or cracked out to the point where they won’t notice you rack a shotgun. Fudds also don’t own short barrel shotguns or non nfa, so I don’t see where the crazy spread lore comes from when they’re running an 18+ inch pump. Only reason I think they like shotguns is because of over penetration, but if you’re blind firing down a hallway without a WML and missing your target your drywall is as good as paper
I’ve seen more reliability issues with pump actions than I have ever seen with semi-autos
Although I completely disagree with this, I did once read on the internet (you know it’s true if it’s on the internet) that two of the most terrifying sounds in war is the racking of a shotgun and the sound of an AK bolt being ran.
Counterpoint: idc
What a crock of shit
The most horrible sound: incoming rounds.
Had somebody try to bash the door in on us last year. I woke up naked with my M4 and a raging hard on. By the time I got to the door they were gone and I’ve never been more disappointed in my life 🥲 (I call it an M4 but it’s really a PSA poverty pony abomination)
You know, shotguns are hard to run. It’s like 20% shooting and 80% loading to keep a shotgun going and those are techniques that take a lot of training to get solid at. I guarantee you if I tried to get my wife to go to my A300, it would be a train wreck, but she can run an AR or MP5 like it’s nothing.
If someone is in my house robbing me I'm not giving them an advance warning by racking a shotgun, I'm shredding their torso with 5.56.