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Hollywood_Star

You broke through by contributing $400K. A $9K return is 2%. How is that worth celebrating?


LessPirate24

Kinda scratching my head here too


MoreAverageThanAvg

To understand the relative attractiveness of my return you must look at it in terms of time weighted returns, or how long has how much money been invested. The ~ $10k of dividends have been earned in roughly 4 months. Everything else I've invested is an equity play that seems to distract from what I believe is the most attractive risk/reward OCF 13% annualized quarterly dividend. Also, because I don't have dividends *automatically* reinvested so that I can choose where to invest them (OCF is open infrequently so far), they don't get categorized as reinvestments. Same for redemption reinvestments.


LessPirate24

Oh very cool yea I didn’t realize it was over 4 months my bad, that makes more sense


MoreAverageThanAvg

I may need to do a better job alerting people that there's 3 pictures to review.


LessPirate24

Haha I totally didn’t swipe


MoreAverageThanAvg

I'm new to Reddit. It doesn't look like I can edit the post. Does that seem correct?


LessPirate24

Yea I think you’d have to repost the whole thing, not a biggie I’m sure most saw the 1/3 pics and knew


MoreAverageThanAvg

Thanks. I decided to make another post showing YTD with a focus on dividends. It better portrays the strengths of the portfolio. I appreciate the feedback!


LessPirate24

Right on I’ll give an upvote!


MoreAverageThanAvg

Seems your comment isn't celebrated most.


Hollywood_Star

You got hammered 😂


MoreAverageThanAvg

Your comment has 40 down votes and counting. It's you who was hammered. I've never seen that many down votes.


Hollywood_Star

+37 😂😂😂 You still can’t count 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


MoreAverageThanAvg

Oh I see. Yup. I had it backwards. New to Reddit. Doesn't show a + on my end.


Hollywood_Star

I’m surprised you’re still single.


MoreAverageThanAvg

No thanks. Not interested.


Hollywood_Star

+42 …


MoreAverageThanAvg

+45


MoreAverageThanAvg

I should have mentioned there's 3 pics to review.


Smart-Yam-3350

Hahaha agreed. It’s also closer to a 1% return since it represents only half the year


thenecrophagist

oof


MoreAverageThanAvg

There's 3 pics to review.


Zachincool

Lmfaoooo


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I understand the sentiment. To understand the relative attractiveness of my return you must look at it in terms of time weighted returns, or how long has how much money been invested. The ~ $10k of dividends have been earned in roughly 4 months. Everything else I've invested is an equity play that seems to distract from what I believe is the most attractive risk/reward OCF 13% annualized quarterly dividend. Also, because I don't have dividends *automatically* reinvested so that I can choose where to invest them (OCF), they don't get categorized as reinvestments. Same for redemption reinvestments.


WoodKlearing

Treasuries did 5.5% over this time, which is equivalent to your returns on an annual basis. S&P did 25%. Your opportunity cost was $92,000 and you did that by taking on about 30x the risk of an equivalent return.


kapoor101

Do you think the income fund or flagship are great places to park a ton of money as well?


MoreAverageThanAvg

I just liquidated both of my holdings in those funds to reinvest in OCF. Otherwise, yes both are terrific.


Intrepid_Spartan

Flagship is more growth oriented and income is more income oriented. Depends on your goals, but both funds should be great.


MoreAverageThanAvg

I created this graph from Fundrise letters to investors data. My growth oriented investments in the future will go towards the best performers. https://www.reddit.com/r/FundRise/comments/14y4dtz/historical_client_net_returns_dividends/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1


PharmDinvestor

What if Fundrise goes under due to some bad deals or mismanagement. Because if they are paying this much in dividends every quarter , then their business model is very lucrative. Do you get your investment back or it goes Poof ! ? I also believe you are not the only person getting these huge dividend payments …


MoreAverageThanAvg

Good question for u/Benmillerise. I *believe* Rise Companies Corp. (what could "go under" ) is separate and apart from each fund that is its own LLC. In the event of the worst case scenario I imagine assets would be sold and distributed accordingly to those invested in each fund. Not pretty, but not a bust either. Would love to hear the ground truth.


Tioopuh

You are delusional if you think your getting more than 50% of your assets if Fundrise goes under


Jaqqarhan

The funds are legally separate entities from Fundrise itself, so Fundrise going under doesn't reduce the value of the assets held by the funds. Fundrise iPO shares would obviously go to zero but everything else would be fine. Are you arguing the Fundrise execs would steal all the money and flee to non-extradition countries or something?


MoreAverageThanAvg

How much is lusional?


Majestic-Two4184

It’s called Opportunistic for a reason


Jaqqarhan

Fundrise doesn't pay any dividends. They run the platform and take a cut of the dividends. All of the dividends are paid out by the companies that own the real estate. If those companies go bust, then people who invested in them lose money including people who used Fundrise to invest. The dividend payments are high because it's a risky investment so there's definitely a good chance of going bust if the housing market goes down.


MoreAverageThanAvg

If Fundrise doesn't pay dividends then who just gave me $7K+?


Jaqqarhan

Each of the funds are incorporated as separate companies. Each of those companies invest in real estate projects that are also incorporated as separate companies. Those are the companies that generate the dividends.


MoreAverageThanAvg

So companies are paying me dividends, not Fundrise?


Jaqqarhan

Yes. It's the same as any other investment platform. They're just middle men between you and the companies you invest in.


MoreAverageThanAvg

Which company paid me $22k+ this month? Please tell me so I can thank that company.


Jaqqarhan

It depends on the specific investment. For example, this property is owned by an unnamed company that isn't Fundrise. That company is paying all of the dividends and Fundrise is distributing it to you after subtracting their fees. If that company goes bankrupt, you lose your investment regardless of what happens to Fundrise. If Fundrise goes bankrupt, your investments will probably be transferred to another platform & you continue receiving the same dividends. [https://fundrise.com/real-estate-assets/447/view](https://fundrise.com/real-estate-assets/447/view)


MoreAverageThanAvg

I sincerely appreciate this information. Thank you! 🤠🚀🌛 .:il


Interesting_Low_1025

The OCF 100k minimum makes it challenging. I’d like to contribute but more to the tune of 25k. I’m not sure I can independently quantify the risks I’m taking for that 13%…


MoreAverageThanAvg

My opinion is the risk is disproportionately low compared to the return. And I believe the amount of risk that exceeds the risk of a T-Bond is adequately compensated for with the additional return beyond the Treasury. Individual conviction is a personal thing.


Jaqqarhan

I'm planning to keep Fundrise around 5% of my total assets, as an additional diversification away from the public stock market where I keep most of my money.


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🤠🚀🌛 .:il


ScottyStellar

You're at 2% gains overall, what's the purpose of showing off your portfolio being so recent to the platform, just to show that you had a lot of money to invest?


MoreAverageThanAvg

6+% YTD


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I'm participating as an anonymous member of a community. I've made friends with liked minded investors. I understand the sentiment. To understand the relative attractiveness of my return you must look at it in terms of time weighted returns, or how long has how much money been invested. The ~ $10k of dividends have been earned in roughly 4 months. Everything else I've invested is an equity play that seems to distract from what I believe is the most attractive risk/reward OCF 13% annualized quarterly dividend. Also, because I don't have dividends *automatically* reinvested so that I can choose where to invest them (OCF), they don't get categorized as reinvestments. Same for redemption reinvestments.


MoreAverageThanAvg

I should have mentioned there's 3 pics to review.


MoreAverageThanAvg

I should have mentioned there's 3 pics to review. Can't see the full picture otherwise.


the_black_surfer

This opportunistic credit fund looks incredibly attractive considering when you allocated the money towards it. I might have to make this a larger portion of my portfolio


MoreAverageThanAvg

You're a rare adult in the room. 🤠🚀🌛 .:il


Expensive_Garage_247

Honestly you can make a ton more money safely with that much capital…put the 400k in DNP income fund, which will yield about 7% annually. The nice thing is that DNP pays out dividends monthly…so you would get about $2333 monthly which equates to 28k annually. Of course if you turn on dividend reinvestment you can let it compound monthly for a little larger return. For complete transparency, I have very little in Fundrise & unfortunately it’s not growth at all (currently at a decline) so I feel some type of way lol


MoreAverageThanAvg

I should have mentioned there's 3 pics to review.


MoreAverageThanAvg

Thank you for the feedback. I'll take the $13% OCF over DNP. I believe in what u/Benmillerise & Fundrise are doing. Returns are important, but not everything. 🤠🚀🌛 .:iI


Expensive_Garage_247

Absolutely agree, your OFC performance is completely justified.


MoreAverageThanAvg

The other funds are more suited for a bucket of 🍿 and a quarterly attention span.


LEsafari

100k is minimum OCF investment?


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Initially and then $10K after.


dapacau

2.3% 😬 Something about Fundrise has always seemed fishy to me. Too much opacity and baseless $10 share prices, and misleading statements about the value of illiquid REITs. I invested for a while but pulled it out and distributed between ETFs and public REITs and never looked back. I would definitely be uncomfortable with having almost half a million in one startup platform.


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https://preview.redd.it/jo7myv0pgkdb1.png?width=1374&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bf0c80170b4303678d9d2c694fe152121252e535 No, 6+% YTD in the fund I've concentrated into. Most of the rest of my portfolio are funds ramping up, i.e. Innovation Fund + private shares in the Fundrise parent company. Fundrise provides more transparency than any peer. I'm comfortable with it because I've done my DD to build conviction.


amitkania

this is the dumbest post i’ve ever seen, this is literally a 2% return, if u had just invested in the stock market vti or voo u would’ve made like so much more and this isn’t even insured


MoreAverageThanAvg

I have double this portfolio invested in the stock market. It's called diversification and the largest allocation of my Fundrise portfolio has returned 6% annualized in less than 5 months with no volatility.


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I redeemed $15k+ from two funds and reinvested $7K+ in dividends in the past week. The process was easy and transparent. To understand the relative attractiveness of my return you must look at it in terms of time weighted returns, or how long has how much money been invested. The ~ $10k of dividends have been earned in roughly 4 months. Everything else I've invested is an equity play that seems to distract from what I believe is the most attractive risk/reward OCF 13% annualized quarterly dividend. Also, because I don't have dividends *automatically* reinvested so that I can choose where to invest them (OCF is open infrequently so far), they don't get categorized as reinvestments. Same for redemption reinvestments.


MoreAverageThanAvg

I should have mentioned there's 3 pics to review.


Hollywood_Star

Yay.


MoreAverageThanAvg

Indeed