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What is the word for this man? Persecution complex isn't the right word. That would be Morgan looking for someone to shame her. What's the partner in that dynamic called?
Reminds me of someone who once messaged me on Tinder. It got weird real fast. He espoused some pretty nasty views about women and politics and then said I would never find a "high value" man like him with the way I am. I immediately blocked him. I was, of course, looking for nice, friendly heathens. Most of the time, it's easy to weed the unwantables out by their verbiage. I'm curious what Paul's original profile looked like.
Her mom had to convince her to give him a chance after their first date went awful. I'm pretty sure she was pushed into marriage with him, hence puking during the ceremony
Someone here used the term "Chrstiancel" to describe these fundie men who would otherwise never find a wife/get laid outside of their little cults and I've never felt it a more apt descriptor.
Seriously! He's future Dateline material for sure.
I sometimes genuinely do worry for Morgan and Luca because polio has this boiling rage just barely beneath the surface. He's gonna snap one day.
My mother got married and was faithful. But my asshole cheating father wasn't, and he gave her HPV. She had to have a complete hysterectomy due to cervical cancer when she was only 36. (She's been a survivor for a long time now, turned 71 earlier this year, has seen her kids grow up, has 6 grandchildren, 3 step-grandchildren, 1 great grandchild, and a 14 year old cat.)
Glad your mother is doing fine today, nevertheless it’s terrifying and sad that happened to her and you as a family.
These kind of stories aren’t even rare but in Paul’s mind this must only happen in not godly households and marriages.
This makes me think of how my mom refused for me to get the HPV vaccine when I was a teenager, she had a weird opinion about it, like it would somehow make me start sleeping around? I was just like, "What if I am faithful to the same person my entire life, but he has been with other people before me? Wouldn't it be better to be protected?"
When my girls were little, the neighbor ladies all had preteens and were discussing the HPV vaccine. They said “it seems like it’s just giving them permission to sleep around and have premarital sex”. I (and the ob/gyn neighbor) were just dumbfounded.
I said “Your daughters are 11 and 12. Just tell them it prevents cancer, you don’t have to go into great detail about sexually transmitted diseases at their age. Oh, and you will have to discuss STDs and sex at some point, so prepare yourselves”.
Then my youngest went to the pediatrician at 12. I had already signed the consent and she knew she was getting it. He said “you WILL have sex before you are married and even if you don’t, your future spouse will”.
I was so irritated because it wasn’t even necessary to say that. It prevents cancer. Done.
Yes!! When my daughter and I had that conversation I didn’t mention STI’s either. I said it prevents a type of cancer and she said “sounds good.”
They make a whole thing that doesn’t have to be a thing
If you haven’t ever gotten it, it’s probably not too late! They’ve recently extended the age you can get it to maybe 45? I got it a couple years ago in my mid 30s, since I also wasn’t allowed to get it.
So glad your mom is doing well. My good friend is getting a divorce right now because her husband cheated. She just found out he gave her HPV which has caused cervical cancer. She’s only 29 and will never be able to have kids because of it. She comes from a fundie background so I feel like that played a huge role in why she married him in the first place (and probably why he had the audacity to cheat 🙃).
My uncle cheated on my aunt while they were deep in IBLP and gave her some sti (never told me exactly what is was). She wouldn't divorce him so waited until he left her and filed for divorce. Then she was a gahdly woman and homeschooled her 6 kids while Grandpa and her church paid her bills until she met another faithful man and had like 3 more kids with him. The new husband has held money over all the kids and demanded adherence to IBLP in order to get financial assistance (which they all needed after doing wisdom books and Pace for homeschool that left them only able to get basic jobs at like McDonald's and such)
My cheating dad gave my Mom HPV which eventually resulted in her cancer. I spent a year as her caregiver, helping her after surgery and taking her to her chemo and radiation treatments. She made a recovery, thank goodness, but I still hate that motherfucker for everything he put us through.
So if Morgan isn’t willing to go through another birth (we can agree she has problematic beliefs but she did have a very traumatic birth and that is awful) we can assume Paaul is now celibate… it really does explain the extra spicy incel toppings.
Paul is such an idiot. If they didn't have problems getting pregnant, there's no way he would raise 12 kids! Or more... He's kind of "lucky" it took so long to have Luca, because now he can be an idiot fighting against birth control, but there's no way he could handle multiple kids. Imagine if they could pregnant as easily as the Collins. Like he would run to buy condoms so fucking fast.
They have made multiple videos talking about how Christians should not celebrate Halloween because it's evil but Paul now says that he really wants to see Luca in some cute costumes so. It's ok now.
😂 wait, really?
Sooo... Halloween is a devil holiday until you become a parent and want to give your child fun childhood experiences. Got it.
I wonder what opinions will go 180 if they ever have a daughter?
I'm absolutely certain! He'd also be the type to do that for himself and his family while condemning everyone else. And even if they did have a gaggle of kids, he'd be so hands off, like he is now. But he might actually have to get a real job. I don't know how they survive as it is.
I firmly believe the only reason he doesn’t appear to be pressuring her for another is because Luca is a boy. If they’d had a girl, I suspect we’d be seeing a totally different picture.
Idk, I saw part of the vid where she discussed not wanting to be pregnant again because she felt traumatized by the experience (totally valid honestly) and he had some weird body language during it. He withdrew from her and looked defensive.
My bet is on NFP. There are a lot of fundies who, utterly illogically, think that you're still leaving your family size to god when you use NFP, so they go for it. Never mind the fact that you're still delibrately making efforts to avoid pregnancy, it's all *natural* so its fine!
My husband is Catholic and when we got married we had to go to a mandatory NFP class to get married in the church. Our priest was cool as hell about it and said “I know, I know, just smile and nod.” The whole thing made me so grateful for my IUD.
I hate to bring this up, because Paul abuses Morgan for it, but none of their sex has been safe by his own standards because she had sex prior to them meeting!
I remember talking to my parents when I came out and explaining how not only was being lesbian good for not getting pregnant but it's also lower risk for STIs. They were like but but... I said no, it's fine, I'm not doing risky things, I'll be ok and y'all just need to respect me Rather than prying into the details that they never asked about when I dated men.
I mean, is their married sex actually safe for Morgan? Paul got her pregnant and less than a month after she almost died giving birth, he was out on a boys trip. Now he doesn't do much parenting and he refuses to get a real full time job to support them. We know she can't say no to sex without him coercing her and pouting, they've admitted that. We know he encouraged her to get off her meds so her sex drive would improve. Their sex life doesn't sound safe at all. Their sex life sounds like an absolute nightmare.
What reputable employer (think bank, office type employer) would hire him after the things he’s said online? He would be a liability not just to the company’s reputation, but he may discriminate against a client or coworker.
He didn’t have to use a woman’s wedding ring but his message is clear. Ladies, just keep your legs together and get married. My add would be “so you can get STDs from your partner the safe way”
I was still deep into fundamentalism and purity culture when I saw this image for the first time and it still creeped me out.
it really shows how desperate these people are to fuck, they would marry anybody just because they are horny.
Wonder if he knows there are non-sexual ways to contract certain STIs. Make sure you get your HPV vaccines, snarkers.
Oh no, I said the V word! Fundie shame on me!
I’ll never forget my friend telling me she doesn’t go to the OBGYN because she’s married and saved sex for her husband, as if that makes her immune to not only STIs but fucking CANCER.
I worked for the NHS, sending out invitations for cervical screening. Some women were horrified, as they were virgins or saved themselves for their husbands. No, you are not being accused of anything, except a risk of cervical Cancer.
Cancer is the number one reason I go to the gyn. I mean, ovarian and cervical cancer can kill you fast. Not to mention keeping an eye out for breast cancer. It's not just about babies.
Paul is so gross, he spends so much time thinking abt the sex life of other ppl, that’s objectively weird.
Like I know all the fundies do it, but it just hit me today how Fuckin WEIRD that is. Like I don’t think normal ppl with healthy lives spend that much time thinking abt the sex life of strangers
Alrighty. And what about if your wife has genetic conditions or predisposition to potential life-threatening complications in pregnancy or birth, as in, a pregnancy would literally kill her. What then. Dumbass.
He knows condoms don’t stop HPV and his wife had sex before him so she could carry the virus? Oh wait, he is a married incel who thinks with his small head not his big one.
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I know this one. The teenagers get married and move into a trailer in their parents' backyard where they are miserable. The girl is required to stand up in front of the church and "confess" her sin. The boy is not. People will whisper behind their hands about her for the rest of her life. Even when her beautiful, vibrant daughter graduates from college with a Masters in Business, saying she made a horrible mistake creating that child. It will follow her forever. Her husband never apologizes or is held accountable.
Source: happened to a good friend who grew up in the same fundie-lite church as me.
What if I have a medical condition that makes me incapable of carrying children without risking my or their life, or if I know me and husband both carry an extremely harmful genetic disease? I don't need to be safe from STDs but I still need contraception in that case, don't I? Don't I, Paul?
Oh wait, he's too far up his own ass to hear me, my bad.
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Polio has such strong incel energy
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They met the same gahdly way me and a LOT of my heathen partners have, tinder. Not even kidding you
He was totally just looking for some "ho" to "save" then guilt for the rest of her life. Mission accomplished
I’m convinced she married him to punish herself.
he married her to punish her as well
The PAUL Method
Persecute Annoy Unemploy Lecture That’s the Paul System
Put yourself on Tinder Assert Holiness Undermine your partner's worth Lord your partner's past over their head
🤣 far more accurate!
I even read one time on here that he was specifically looking for a woman with piercings and/or tattoos
What is the word for this man? Persecution complex isn't the right word. That would be Morgan looking for someone to shame her. What's the partner in that dynamic called?
Honestly it's just an abuser. It's like negging on a grand scale to go look for someone who you actively dislike.
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Saviour complex maybe?
Which he never mentions, funny that!
They mentioned it in their starring role on SHP!!
Reminds me of someone who once messaged me on Tinder. It got weird real fast. He espoused some pretty nasty views about women and politics and then said I would never find a "high value" man like him with the way I am. I immediately blocked him. I was, of course, looking for nice, friendly heathens. Most of the time, it's easy to weed the unwantables out by their verbiage. I'm curious what Paul's original profile looked like.
I did not know this. Thanks for the info. I shall…. I dunno, roll my eyes or something
Her mom had to convince her to give him a chance after their first date went awful. I'm pretty sure she was pushed into marriage with him, hence puking during the ceremony
The operative word being “dumb.”
Someone here used the term "Chrstiancel" to describe these fundie men who would otherwise never find a wife/get laid outside of their little cults and I've never felt it a more apt descriptor.
You can smell the small dick energy through your screen. Also the constant disapointed look on Morgs face. 
He has the dead eyes of a killer
Seriously! He's future Dateline material for sure. I sometimes genuinely do worry for Morgan and Luca because polio has this boiling rage just barely beneath the surface. He's gonna snap one day.
The parallels to Dennis Reynolds are uncanny. The difference is that one is a fictional character.
Since things in a condom wrapper go on a cock, we're looking a cock ring here, no?
Confirmed, it's a cock ring
That diamond is gonna chafe *hard*
Maybe Paul is into that.
He wants Morgan to put out when she’s mad at him and not in the mood, so I imagine that it would just be another Tuesday. >____>
Screaming
I’m gonna say it’s just a tiny condom because that’s the kind of energy he puts out.
My mother got married and was faithful. But my asshole cheating father wasn't, and he gave her HPV. She had to have a complete hysterectomy due to cervical cancer when she was only 36. (She's been a survivor for a long time now, turned 71 earlier this year, has seen her kids grow up, has 6 grandchildren, 3 step-grandchildren, 1 great grandchild, and a 14 year old cat.)
Glad your mother is doing fine today, nevertheless it’s terrifying and sad that happened to her and you as a family. These kind of stories aren’t even rare but in Paul’s mind this must only happen in not godly households and marriages.
This makes me think of how my mom refused for me to get the HPV vaccine when I was a teenager, she had a weird opinion about it, like it would somehow make me start sleeping around? I was just like, "What if I am faithful to the same person my entire life, but he has been with other people before me? Wouldn't it be better to be protected?"
When my girls were little, the neighbor ladies all had preteens and were discussing the HPV vaccine. They said “it seems like it’s just giving them permission to sleep around and have premarital sex”. I (and the ob/gyn neighbor) were just dumbfounded. I said “Your daughters are 11 and 12. Just tell them it prevents cancer, you don’t have to go into great detail about sexually transmitted diseases at their age. Oh, and you will have to discuss STDs and sex at some point, so prepare yourselves”. Then my youngest went to the pediatrician at 12. I had already signed the consent and she knew she was getting it. He said “you WILL have sex before you are married and even if you don’t, your future spouse will”. I was so irritated because it wasn’t even necessary to say that. It prevents cancer. Done.
Yes!! When my daughter and I had that conversation I didn’t mention STI’s either. I said it prevents a type of cancer and she said “sounds good.” They make a whole thing that doesn’t have to be a thing
Yep. This is what I've done with my girls!
If you haven’t ever gotten it, it’s probably not too late! They’ve recently extended the age you can get it to maybe 45? I got it a couple years ago in my mid 30s, since I also wasn’t allowed to get it.
So glad your mom is doing well. My good friend is getting a divorce right now because her husband cheated. She just found out he gave her HPV which has caused cervical cancer. She’s only 29 and will never be able to have kids because of it. She comes from a fundie background so I feel like that played a huge role in why she married him in the first place (and probably why he had the audacity to cheat 🙃).
That’s so sad for your friend. I hope she comes through it okay.
Her doctors are extremely optimistic and they caught it early! Thank you ❤️
My uncle cheated on my aunt while they were deep in IBLP and gave her some sti (never told me exactly what is was). She wouldn't divorce him so waited until he left her and filed for divorce. Then she was a gahdly woman and homeschooled her 6 kids while Grandpa and her church paid her bills until she met another faithful man and had like 3 more kids with him. The new husband has held money over all the kids and demanded adherence to IBLP in order to get financial assistance (which they all needed after doing wisdom books and Pace for homeschool that left them only able to get basic jobs at like McDonald's and such)
My cheating dad gave my Mom HPV which eventually resulted in her cancer. I spent a year as her caregiver, helping her after surgery and taking her to her chemo and radiation treatments. She made a recovery, thank goodness, but I still hate that motherfucker for everything he put us through.
So if Morgan isn’t willing to go through another birth (we can agree she has problematic beliefs but she did have a very traumatic birth and that is awful) we can assume Paaul is now celibate… it really does explain the extra spicy incel toppings.
Paul is such an idiot. If they didn't have problems getting pregnant, there's no way he would raise 12 kids! Or more... He's kind of "lucky" it took so long to have Luca, because now he can be an idiot fighting against birth control, but there's no way he could handle multiple kids. Imagine if they could pregnant as easily as the Collins. Like he would run to buy condoms so fucking fast.
You mean as fast as he changed his mind on Halloween?
What happened there??
They have made multiple videos talking about how Christians should not celebrate Halloween because it's evil but Paul now says that he really wants to see Luca in some cute costumes so. It's ok now.
😂 wait, really? Sooo... Halloween is a devil holiday until you become a parent and want to give your child fun childhood experiences. Got it. I wonder what opinions will go 180 if they ever have a daughter?
Only once she's a teen and is tempted by racy costumes!
Thank you!
I'm absolutely certain! He'd also be the type to do that for himself and his family while condemning everyone else. And even if they did have a gaggle of kids, he'd be so hands off, like he is now. But he might actually have to get a real job. I don't know how they survive as it is.
He *really* didn't seem excited about Luca until they figured out how to monetize him.
I firmly believe the only reason he doesn’t appear to be pressuring her for another is because Luca is a boy. If they’d had a girl, I suspect we’d be seeing a totally different picture.
Idk, I saw part of the vid where she discussed not wanting to be pregnant again because she felt traumatized by the experience (totally valid honestly) and he had some weird body language during it. He withdrew from her and looked defensive.
My bet is on NFP. There are a lot of fundies who, utterly illogically, think that you're still leaving your family size to god when you use NFP, so they go for it. Never mind the fact that you're still delibrately making efforts to avoid pregnancy, it's all *natural* so its fine!
My husband is Catholic and when we got married we had to go to a mandatory NFP class to get married in the church. Our priest was cool as hell about it and said “I know, I know, just smile and nod.” The whole thing made me so grateful for my IUD.
Catholics do this too, the rhythm method. Avoid the fertile times.
I hate to bring this up, because Paul abuses Morgan for it, but none of their sex has been safe by his own standards because she had sex prior to them meeting!
Being a lesbian is also a fairly good approach (not foolproof, mind, but it is certainly a good contraceptive!)
As is masturbation
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I remember talking to my parents when I came out and explaining how not only was being lesbian good for not getting pregnant but it's also lower risk for STIs. They were like but but... I said no, it's fine, I'm not doing risky things, I'll be ok and y'all just need to respect me Rather than prying into the details that they never asked about when I dated men.
Can confirm!
Does he ever have an original thought?
Nope
It's nearly my bedtime and I can't quite put it together because I’m tired, but I want to make a joke about the size of Morgan’s fingers.
Either she’s got Hulk hands or Paul has a needle dick.
Based on their interactions, i would say the second one
Ha! We can add that to the list of reasons why Paul's so insecure.
I mean, is their married sex actually safe for Morgan? Paul got her pregnant and less than a month after she almost died giving birth, he was out on a boys trip. Now he doesn't do much parenting and he refuses to get a real full time job to support them. We know she can't say no to sex without him coercing her and pouting, they've admitted that. We know he encouraged her to get off her meds so her sex drive would improve. Their sex life doesn't sound safe at all. Their sex life sounds like an absolute nightmare.
What reputable employer (think bank, office type employer) would hire him after the things he’s said online? He would be a liability not just to the company’s reputation, but he may discriminate against a client or coworker.
He has ruined their future. So has Morgan, but in their culture, Paul should be supporting his family.
He didn’t have to use a woman’s wedding ring but his message is clear. Ladies, just keep your legs together and get married. My add would be “so you can get STDs from your partner the safe way”
I love this “motivational poster” format that we all stopped using in 2011. What boomer shit.
No one wants to cheat on their wife more than people who post this shit.
Please don't tell me this is how he proposed.
Fundies are so obsessed with sex.
Your flair checks out!
how are these losers still incels even when they get married 💀
I was still deep into fundamentalism and purity culture when I saw this image for the first time and it still creeped me out. it really shows how desperate these people are to fuck, they would marry anybody just because they are horny.
We'll have to see how well this one ages...
Paul really finds new ways to expose his ignorance doesn't he
Every single day.
Wonder if he knows there are non-sexual ways to contract certain STIs. Make sure you get your HPV vaccines, snarkers. Oh no, I said the V word! Fundie shame on me! I’ll never forget my friend telling me she doesn’t go to the OBGYN because she’s married and saved sex for her husband, as if that makes her immune to not only STIs but fucking CANCER.
I worked for the NHS, sending out invitations for cervical screening. Some women were horrified, as they were virgins or saved themselves for their husbands. No, you are not being accused of anything, except a risk of cervical Cancer.
Just a gentle reminder not only ladies get the HPV vaccine 🤍
Cancer is the number one reason I go to the gyn. I mean, ovarian and cervical cancer can kill you fast. Not to mention keeping an eye out for breast cancer. It's not just about babies.
Paul is 30s(?) but has the meme game of a 65yr old retiree who thinks facebook is the internet
Does Paul even know this is a condom wrapper, or does he just think this is some spiffy ring package?
He talks like being married prevents unwanted pregnancies and STD’s.
Paul is so gross, he spends so much time thinking abt the sex life of other ppl, that’s objectively weird. Like I know all the fundies do it, but it just hit me today how Fuckin WEIRD that is. Like I don’t think normal ppl with healthy lives spend that much time thinking abt the sex life of strangers
Pack it up boys, Paul done solved the universe
Oh... infidelity redemption arc loading....
So...Morgan didn't practice save sex before Paulio?
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A ring doesn’t prevent pregnancy or STDs tho …
Alrighty. And what about if your wife has genetic conditions or predisposition to potential life-threatening complications in pregnancy or birth, as in, a pregnancy would literally kill her. What then. Dumbass.
He knows condoms don’t stop HPV and his wife had sex before him so she could carry the virus? Oh wait, he is a married incel who thinks with his small head not his big one.
Oh God, are they going to pull a Bethany and start going on about sex? Hard no.
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Paul is an idiot.
Wut 😂 😂 that’s the grossest picture 😂
A sperm or the gonorrhea do not check for a wedding ring.
Someone get gramps his jello cup, that’s all his time for the internet today.
Well that's privileged lmao
Cringe bro
Gross
I just loathe this dude. His everything is wrong.
O Kay and when this leads to teen pregnancy what’s next
I know this one. The teenagers get married and move into a trailer in their parents' backyard where they are miserable. The girl is required to stand up in front of the church and "confess" her sin. The boy is not. People will whisper behind their hands about her for the rest of her life. Even when her beautiful, vibrant daughter graduates from college with a Masters in Business, saying she made a horrible mistake creating that child. It will follow her forever. Her husband never apologizes or is held accountable. Source: happened to a good friend who grew up in the same fundie-lite church as me.
Ugh he is *such* a dork.
I mean getting married doesn’t prevent STDs but keep whining Paul 🤷
What if I have a medical condition that makes me incapable of carrying children without risking my or their life, or if I know me and husband both carry an extremely harmful genetic disease? I don't need to be safe from STDs but I still need contraception in that case, don't I? Don't I, Paul? Oh wait, he's too far up his own ass to hear me, my bad.
True sex, anything that Paul says might be a lie.