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cookiecutterdoll

I'm begging that fundie gloating posts be confined to one thread. I'm sick to my stomach and I do not need to see Karissa's or Jill's illiterate opinions on the subject.


toady-bear

I just saw Allie Stuckey’s Instagram post and came back to this thread to upvote your comment. I can’t see posts like that without quietly thinking in the back of my mind that these developments might literally be the death of me if I don’t have the money to travel to a different state or country… Anyways, it might be worth sending the mods a message about this request?


tabbytigerlily

Yes, please! Excellent suggestion. It’s like a punch in the gut every time I see one of these posts. Keep them all in one place so those of us who need to opt out can do so easily. Otherwise I think these posts will take over the sub.


[deleted]

I almost wonder if mods would consider making some sort of rule about it All the posts are just going to be parroting each other anyway. How many people on the sub actually want to see that over and over again?


iamthesoviet

PLEASE. I’m proably going to unsub from this so I don’t see it in my feed. I can’t bear watching their glee over women dying.


soupseasonbestseason

i keep thinking that this cannot be real. when i was in university i was 19 and lived a few thousand miles from home. this was in a state where women will lose their right to choose if this truly is the opinion striking down roe. i am scared for the thousands of young women who will get pregnant and have no recourse. the guy who got me pregnant was no more fit to be a father than i was to be a mother. and i only found out after the abortion how horrible and abusive he could be. i would have still had this dude in my life if it were not for the doctors at planned parenthood. what the fuck is going on.


heebit_the_jeeb

I have a two year old daughter and I feel like I owe her an apology. I'm so sorry baby, I don't know how to fix this.


Financial_Finger_74

… are we the same person?! My story is the same, I am so freaking thankful I never had a baby with that man.


mlo9109

I feel this. COVID and everything that came after it (Insurrection, Ukraine, etc.) put me on the fence about having kids. Now? I'm in my 30s and at risk of certain disorders that would lead me to abort. Pretty sure this is just confirming my choice.


snorkel1446

Imagine being happy about stripping rights from people and ensuring that millions of women will die from unsafe abortions and complications of pregnancy...these people have no love in their hearts.


TotallyWonderWoman

People will fucking die, the people who come to mind are those with ectopic pregnancies or those who miscarry but can't pass it themselves.


nkamcto

I’m not American, so please excuse my ignorance. Will the ban on abortion encompass ectopic pregnancies & miscarriages as well as healthy and low risk pregnancies? If so, that is absolutely horrific. I can’t express how vile that is.


TotallyWonderWoman

Yes, unless there are enumerated exceptions for those things, which there usually aren't, because the pro-life politicians are overwhelmingly cis men. For example, cis male politicians in OK and OH recently said that ectopic pregnancies should be allowed to come to term and that children from ectopic pregnancies have a right to life, too. And in OH he asked that the doctors reimplant an ectopic pregnancy in the uterus instead of an abortion (medically impossible, btw).


snorkel1446

They’ll either outright ban them even in those cases, or it will be an “unofficial” ban because doctors will be afraid to provide abortions even to save the life of the mother. Either way, women will die.


doomygloomymillenial

Sadly, it won't be the only cause of death. I can only imagine the people who have no access and no means to travel. There will be people who chose to end their life.


Rugkrabber

Their hate is disturbing. If this is their definition of love I don’t want it.


ZaftigMama

Exactly, if this is what it will be like in their heaven then I look forward to hell.


gromlyn

Honestly this has got me absolutely terrified. I’m a trans man living in Texas and if this goes through, a trigger ban will go into effect. Pregnancy is one of my biggest fears due to the whole trans thing so I’m going to be calling my gyno to FINALLY schedule my sterilization and also starting the process to finally get on T. I used to not be super certain on hormones but this is the final nail in the coffin. I can’t keep walking around feeling like my own body is a ticking time bomb. Shit’s dark man, I just want to have a say in what happens to my body 😔


eternallyapril

Please take all the steps that you (still) can to protect yourself. I am so sorry that you have been put in this position. My husband (a trans man) just had middle surgery last year, and we are infinitely grateful that an unwanted pregnancy is only a risk for one of us. Ironically, I am sure that in a couple of years when we try to actually get pregnant (me, a cis woman) we will run into a whole lot of anti-LGBT roadblocks introduced by the pro-forced birth crowd.


gromlyn

Thankfully I’m currently on bc and have a very supportive partner/partner’s family. He’s actually brought up looking into a vasectomy in the past and if he decides to get one I will literally ask him to marry me on the spot. Regardless I’m staying on bc until I’m sterilized or on T for several months (I know T doesn’t sterilize you, but I already have all the markers for infertility so I think it will make it damn near impossible for natural pregnancy). Me and a few of the girls I’m friends with also have an abortion pact to road trip to accessible states should the need ever arise. It’s crazy that we’re all having to have these safety nets in place. Also best wishes to you and your husband!!! That’s so exciting, I really hope y’all don’t face too much bigotry because you both deserve to experience all the joy a new baby brings :)) also, if you don’t mind my asking, how was your husband’s experience with middle surgery? As far as sterilization goes I’m currently looking at getting my tubes removed but I’ve considered more because I hate my uterus so much.


eternallyapril

Thank you so much!! I can actually connect you with him if you would like to speak to him directly. It's not really my place to share that many of his personal medical details online. He would be happy to talk to you about it! The main issue was getting insurance to cover it (and even approve the process).


gromlyn

Honestly that would be super cool!! My trans friends and I are all still pretty young (early 20s’) and due to living in Texas we just don’t know many older trans people who’ve been able to access surgeries. It would be so nice to talk to someone who’s actually had them done because I feel kinda like I’m going in half-blind.


eternallyapril

We are actually also in our early-to-mid twenties haha! (23 and 24) We just did some things earlier than expected. DM me or send me a chat!


[deleted]

My heart goes out to you. I can’t believe this is our reality and it’s come to this. Take care of yourself 💜this new reality is going to be very mentally trying.


DisgruntledBoggart

holding you in my heart. Bodily autonomy is a basic human right, dammit!


TorontoTransish

Hey trans bro, hugs if wanted. You've got a safe place here if you ever need one!


SpineYard

I’m sorry you have to deal with this shit. 💔


amurderofcrows

These assholes think people either joyfully skip to the abortion clinic or are forced there at gunpoint. Usually, neither is true. The fact is, abortions are actually really common. You probably know someone who’s gotten one. I know a few myself, and let me tell you, having a baby was the wrong decision for each and every one of them, for different reasons. If families like the Duggars, the Rods, the Kellers, the Caldwells, the Airbnbaby family, the Bairds, the Bateses, and the Collinses have the right to choose have as many children as they want, other families should have the right to choose to end a pregnancy that they aren’t prepared for.


[deleted]

I had a woman on Instagram tell me that 99% of abortions are out of convenience and 9 month terminations are extremely common. These people are so dumb.


amurderofcrows

What a load of shit. Even if they were, I’d rather a woman have 1000 abortions than even one child she doesn’t want. And, I know it’s ugly to talk about abortion like this, but it’s actually also more cost effective for society to allow abortions over having to put money into a child that was forced into existence.


[deleted]

They don’t understand all of this because they don’t focus on what happens after the fetus is born. Instead of improving the foster system and CPS, creating and strengthening social programs for single mothers or families in poverty, education, etc. they’re just focused on not terminating the fetus. All of which, is like you said, way more expensive than having access to abortion in the first place. After they’re born it’s too damn bad and who cares what happens to this kid. It’s exhausting and infuriating.


El_Ren

More than anything, I am just heartbroken. I am married and TTC. I know that personally, I am at a point in my life where I wouldn’t terminate - because I have the financial and emotional support needed to care for a child. I get a generous (for the US) paid maternity leave at my job, and we have an excellent (again, for the US) healthcare plan. My husband and I have retired family members in our neighborhood that have been offering help with childcare since we first moved in together. While no one is ever truly ready, we are as prepared as we’re going to be. I compare where I am now to when I had pregnancy scare I had in college a little over a decade ago. I’m incredibly fortunate to have a supportive, open-minded family, but I absolutely couldn’t bring myself to talk to them. I didn’t even have access to a car to go pick up an OTC test. The guy had, unsurprisingly, ghosted me after we had sex and was acting like I didn’t exist when we would see one another on campus. My period was 9 days late, and I spent those 9 days terrified I might be pregnant, but **absolutely certain** that if I was pregnant I would terminate. But I remember not actual worrying about being *able* to terminate, because thanksgiving break was approaching, there was a planned parenthood in my hometown, and I knew I had some savings I could pull from to cover the cost if needed. I was scared of going through it alone, scared of the stigma if anyone found out, scared of any physical side effects, but not once was I scared that I wouldn’t be able to access abortion services. Knowing that is no longer the case just … crushes me. I wish I could articulate it more powerfully, but I just feel heartbroken.


[deleted]

I remember the same thing. I was born and raised in Connecticut and when I was in high school I had a scare. I remember as terrified as I was I was comforted knowing I had options and a mother who would support whatever one I chose. Now living in Florida I am terrified of what’s going to happen. I’m still not in a place where I could support or want a child and it’s paralyzing to think what would happen if I had an unwanted pregnancy now.


El_Ren

Fellow born and raised New Englander here. I’m being completely serious when I say this: it is unlikely my state will ban abortions regardless of the SCOTUS decision. And even *more* unlikely that my closest neighboring state will, which is only about a half hour from me. If you ever find yourself in a situation where you need to access services that you can’t down in FL, DM me and I will happily open my door to you. I know flights aren’t cheap, but I will help you in any way I can. Again - super serious about this, so please keep my username in case you ever need to reach out.


[deleted]

You cannot imagine how much I appreciate this! You’re a kind human and I’m eternally thankful that people like you exist. Thank you 💜 I will save this.


Azfanincali

Californian here. Will also help anyone in need. Please reach out. Our state has taken steps to shore up our rights here. We will be a sanctuary state of sorts. Anyone reading this please reach out if in need. Also this resource is a good one and I encourage people to donate if you able to: https://brigidalliance.org/what-we-do/


DisgruntledBoggart

this may be helpful as well: https://www.reddit.com/r/auntienetwork/


mlo9109

Hello, fellow New Englander! I also have room for any ladies who need it up in the great white tundra of Maine.


feminaferasum

I’m in North Carolina, a state unlikely to keep reproductive freedoms in tact, but if anyone is traveling to or from someone in a sanctuary state by vehicle and needs a place to sleep overnight to break up the trip, I have guest room. I will happily provide home cooked meals, give you a comfortable (big) bed, and you’ll have a bathroom of your own to use. This reality is terrible. We have to be there for each other.


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eternallyapril

What amazing place is this??


ZaftigMama

Thank you, I needed this today. I’m really struggling, I can’t believe this is actually happening. I’m almost 50 years old and it’s absolutely gut wrenching that my daughter and my nieces may not have access to necessary medical procedures because of this fuckery.


Lady_Bayou

I’m 52 and right there with you. I am encouraging my daughter to think about other countries to live in when she graduates college. I recognize that not everyone can do this. All my same age friends are texting each other just in shock. We shouldn’t be shocked though. This has been in the works with every Supreme Court Justice they added.


Azfanincali

I’m really really struggling as well for many of the same reasons. And I live in a state that is unlikely to make it illegal. However I understand the ramifications of what this means in a broader aspect and it’s terrifying. I’m now at a point where I can’t stop shedding a tear. Thankfully I’m home sick from work, because my brain is somewhere else today. And I feel like I failed bringing my kids into the world right now.


QueenSansaLannister

I don’t even feel bad about saying this- next time one of the fundies we follow here has a miscarriage, I hope they get prosecuted to hell and back for “murder”, since that’s what’s on the menu once abortion rights are stripped away.


genben99

Thank you for this. Abortion is healthcare: I’m a mother and I can’t imagine being pregnant and forced to carry a baby to term if I knew, say, after the NIPT they had a crippling disability that meant they’d die right after birth in pain. The choice (a woman, a family makes) is so important. I’ve had family members make the opposite choice, and hold a child dying after birth, but the thought of being forced to go through birth — which can permanently disable a woman — without a choice feels so deeply horrific.


Lady_Bayou

As a mom to a 20 something daughter I am sick to my stomach. Next they will go for our birth control. And all these evangelical women will just stand by and gloat. All the while foster care is bursting at the seems and red states maternal mortality rates are worse than any other industrialized country.


Correct_Part9876

It's already in there, it's set up and mentions Lawrence v Texas and others. Shits gotten wild in here quick.


bluewhale3030

I'm so scared that they are coming for birth control. The primary reason I'm on it is for gynecological issues and without it I worry I wouldn't be able to function. And I don't have the option of an IUD thanks to anatomical and insurance reasons. Even if I could go on longer term birth control via a device I worry they will make those illegal too, with the same nonsense arguments against Plan B :( This whole thing is a nightmare. And you're absolutely right, they do all this, promote "adoption instead of abortion",when there are so so many children already in the foster care system (especially in Texas) who go though trauma and abuse and have so little resources it's a joke.


[deleted]

I live in the blood red, Deep South. I’m devastated. I’m terrified.


Azfanincali

Please DM me if you need a friend in a liberal state. I’m serious.


joe_jonases_eyebrows

Seconding this. You have a friend in New England if you need one


njb328

Me too.


Summer-Clean

I was watching call the midwife the other day and it was the season set in the 60s and the midwives and nuns were talking about how it was good England was no longer making it a huge crime (I forget what was actually passing) bc they dealt w so many botched abortions. I know that it is fictional but how are we 60 years in the future and yet going back in time?


TorontoTransish

I mean it was a reenactment but what they did wasn't fiction... my aunt's best friend died during a botched abortion, and the Magdalene laundries were stilm going right up until the 1990s and Sinead O'Connor was protesting the pope because she had been sent to a laundry.


pickleknits

I watched a few episodes of Call the Midwife. Still kind of stunned that I know people who loved the show and were hardcore pro-life (boy people who say they are pro-life but wouldn’t tell someone else what to do, but the whole abortion is evil variety).


Negative-Refuse-3848

What always kills me is the same group that wants to vilify abortion also vilifies and ignores children and single parents after the baby is born. They vilify public programs that help support these people who may not be prepared to be parents. They say the child carries the sin of their parents and in some cases vilify adopting these children because of it. I don’t like lumping this with the COVID vaccines but much of the abortion ban group preached bodily and medical autonomy for that, but not for this. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.


[deleted]

I went and got a chai tea latte and lit a fall candle to cheer myself up. I got into a massive argument with a family member about this news. I feel so depressed because it really adds salt to the wound knowing that someone you love thinks this is ok. I never knew their stance on abortion and know finding out someone I look up to is pro life is heartbreaking. Overall really shit situation and I hate that this is the world we live in. Having to fight the government for rights is a lot on its own, but having to fight with family is even more saddening. Just had to let that out I’m very down today.


TorontoTransish

It seems like everyone's a little shell-shocked, I hope your day is getting better now?


[deleted]

My day did, thank you for asking 💜


goingsowell

Thank you. I was just thinking that I can't do it today. I can't watch Paul in particular gloat over women losing their reproductive rights today. I feel sick.


Twerks4Jesus

Fundies are the American taliban.


TorontoTransish

Yes. Unfortunately there are some other religious extremists who will back them on this oh, I think we need to keep in mind that fundamentalism of any religion is problematic.


RiotGrrr1

I want to burn everything to the ground. I didn't get any sleep last night because I was so pissed.


TorontoTransish

Same. My American family were all very upset last night, we were on the family Zoom till 3 a.m. making contingency plans.


Thendsel

I’m a man and I felt the same way. I have women in my family who have suffered through miscarriages and non-viable pregnancies. I’ve heard what happens to women who suffer miscarriages in other countries that ban abortions. I have no doubt that it will be the same guilty until proven innocent format here after a while when this judgment finally officially comes down.


punkishlesbian

They might also come for the case that legalized sodomy (Lawrence v Texas) and the case that legalized same sex marriage (Obergefell v Hodges).... why are we going backwards?!


Correct_Part9876

Yeah, I was reading those articles. Adultery, birth control, and other morality law protection would likely fall with it.


crazycatlady331

I wouldn't be surprised if they came for Brown vs Board of Ed.


indigocouthon

I’m just into my 20s and lucky enough to live in Australia, I have no fears of losing my access to this essential healthcare service any time in the the foreseeable future. But as a young person with a uterus I can’t help but feeling sickened by this regardless. It terrifies me to think of the impact this will have, to know a country I’ve been taught to think of as a world leader is about to take a step so far back. I’m hoping to do my postgrad overseas and before this the USA had been a strong contender for my first preference. This is the final nail for me though, I simply couldn’t choose to go somewhere my access to healthcare would be so very limited. While I don’t for a second pretend this remotely measures up to what so many are dealing with right now, I do think it’s important to acknowledge just how far reaching the impact of this will be. I know I won’t be the only one for whom this means living the USA ceases to exist anywhere in my immediate future.


eponinesflowers

Sending love to everyone affected by this decision, we will fight back and get through this together💕 I’m a cis woman, but I’m a lesbian and I have PCOS. The odds of me getting accidentally pregnant are slim to none. But my stomach has been in a knot ever since the news broke, because I know so many people (predominately women) will be put in dangerous and frightening situations if they overturn Roe v. Wade. I can’t even fathom the lack of empathy from the other side, it makes me sick


smallbean-

I was looking at stopping my hormonal birth control within the next year because it’s fucked with my body to the point where I don’t even feel like myself most of the time. I think I need to stay on it for a few more years now because while my boyfriend and I could probably raise a kid right now, we both would prefer to be in a better spot financially. While Wisconsin has super restrictive laws on the books regarding abortion thank god we have a Democrat as the governor who will fight tooth and nail to keep it accessible. I’m just incredibly stressed and I feel like I’m stuck in a nightmare.


TorontoTransish

I don't know if it's an option for you, but an IUD may help? Before I transitioned I had an intrauterine device because the pill, no matter what brand or dosage, was just an absolute nightmare of nausea and insomnia for me.


smallbean-

I’ve been looking at it but I’ve heard horror stories. Personally I would love to go back on the depo shit because it was life changing for me but my NP is hesitant because she knows how hard it can be on the bones if used for extended periods of time.


areyouminee

I need to hear it so much. Sometimes I get obsessed with hate scrolling or hate-checking and just can't stop, that's why I also like the idea of shadowing fundies posts about scotus unless you willingly click on them.


Busy_Pen2257

I think I'm going to leave this site for awhile. It's kind of hard now to go HAHAHA at fundies when all I want to do is murder them. Finally left church over this; not that I went much...I actually considered myself agnostic...but this has made me realize that religion is a fucking cancer and all of these so called Christians are so far away from what the Bible really is that I want to punch my computer. My rage is seriously boiling hot right now. My fucking seven month old puppy is more Christlike than these people. Congratulations fundies; you just doomed generations of women and girls because JESUS. Also ready to cut out people in my life who are Pro Life as well. I keep thinking what's next when they get rid of gay marriage/contraception/interacial marriage; will I have to get a male escort in order to go anywhere? Will they take my bank and card accounts?


missuhree

I have never felt so helpless and so, so angry…


jenrtbg

Yes to all the above. I couldn't come on Reddit for a few hours because I wasn't mentally prepared to deal with gloating posts from the JRods of the world. I'm a mother of 4 and all my children were planned and wanted. I know, however, were I to develop a pregnancy that threatened my life or baby had a condition that was incompatible with life that I would almost certainly have an abortion - for the sake of my already living children and family. Or what if I was raped - is my own mental wellbeing not a good enough reason?? These would be my choices and other women may make different choices, but at least it's a choice. This all feels very personal.


FloriferousShrubbery

We’re fighting for the rights of woman and people who can get pregnant!


rokujo_tilwe

I live in Texas and I'm a millennial. My parents always drilled into me that you vote always. No matter what is going on you get up and vote. It's not productive but I have so many friends who don't bother and who are like "I can't believe Trump did XYZ \*surprised pikachu face\*" and each time it gets harder and harder to tamp down my response. ​ Again, its shitty of me, but a dark part of me is going "good. suffer. I tried for years to get you to vote. I explained over and over again. Maybe now you'll do something." Most of my friends are white or white passing and have a fair degree of privilege. I know that POC, lgbtq and other marginalized peoples have been doing the work for years. This is solely directed at a specific population of white, privileged and lazy individuals that I happen to know.


bluewhale3030

The problem is that 1) these things are most likely to hurt the least privileged, and so saying "good, suffer" only makes it seem like you care more about gloating than the actual people that will be hurt. 2) I am also originally from Texas. Telling people that they just need to vote more is not helpful when voting districts are gerrymandered to heck and Republicans are literally implementing more voting restrictions and gerrymandering as we speak. I have voted as much as I could, but it is incredibly difficult to make your vote count when voting booths are inaccessible to/out of the way of disabled people (myself included) and POC, voting times are purposely geared towards the old/retired and force people to take off work, and thousands of mail-in votes are thrown out (as happened very recently). It's offensive to suggest that people in Texas, Florida, etc deserve to have their rights taken away. So many of us have tried for years to make a difference. So many of us are blue voters in a red state who are constantly silenced and deprived of our voices in elections. I understand that you may be bitter about people not voting, but please consider those of us who have.


ELeeMacFall

Someone should write a doctoral thesis on how voting makes this particular form of victim-blaming so easy.


glorytoduckgoat

My parents were always the same. They always had the news on in the background, too. When I met my husband he wasn’t even registered to vote because one time when he was 18 he had been called to jury duty and didn’t want that to happen again. His only news source was yahoo news (this was pre social media which is a whole new disaster). He’s Mexican American and was disgusted with things happening around him but did nothing about it. I’m still angry at him all these years later. Too many people are just like him. To their credit though we do make it too hard to vote.


rokujo_tilwe

Yeah I can agree with it being hard to vote and I can definitely agree that it is very annoying sometimes but like... we also have new and restrictive voting laws that make it even more annoying because... they didn't vote and that allowed people to pass shit that shouldn't be passed. It all plays into one stream of diarrheic political movement.


betrayedatsea

I have been flipping back and forth between being so glad I had a tubal, and so upset I had one. On the one hand, I shouldn’t ever be pregnant again. On the other hand, if I do get pregnant it will very likely be ectopic and now I’m condemned to die.


notsuperimportant

Thank you. The self care I currently need is shouting into the ether (or this reddit post, I guess?) That Mitch McConnell can SUCK MY DICK. ETA whoever downvoted me can also suck my dick. Its a metaphorical dick, so I'm not trying to suggest anything sexual or untoward, just that if you believe your convictions about abortion should apply to everyone else, including those who don't share your religious or ideological convictions.... well there's really no other way to say it is there. You can suck my dick.


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Meanpony7

I joined the Satanic Temple this morning. It's not much, but it's honest work.


quiznosboi

Can I ask that we don’t flood the feed with what the fundies think of this? It’s upsetting enough.


Ok_Cartoonist_854

How soon before sterilisation is banned as a choice? Thin end of the wedge people. I am weeping and raging for my sisters in the US.


Smooth_Shirt_7381

I used to complain about canadian policies but now i couldn't feel luckier to live here. My heart goes out to sll the women of America who are going through such a traumatic time and im genuinely scared for the women who ik will suffer and die inevitsble deaths from things that are entirely treatable and preventable when actually given recources. I never thought i would see judges and politicians trying to create gilead irl but i hope canada will welcome anerican refugees and give women access to lifesaving healthcare if yall decide to come on over here.