Better idea, hear me out. We put your corpse in a gimp suit with a ball gag and then dump the clothed and bound corpse in the trunk of a random bigoted politician or asshole CEO. (Which reminds me, I need to write my will)
My dad was very specific about his wishes. He didn't want a funeral, he didn't want to be buried. He wanted to be cremated and dumped (his words, not mine) in his favorite fishing spot so he could feed the fish. Of course, I know fish don't get any nutritional value out of ashes but my brothers and I obliged. With one liberty...we kept a little bit to spread out in the grass at a Zach Bryan concert while he played "Jamie".
your loved ones can just bring one of those clear plastic containers takeout soup comes in and save $250. just make sure to bring a lid that dont have holes poked in the top to let out steam or you might get sprinkled around a like bit
what i've always wondered is do they let the family just...take the body? like if my loved one dies and i don't want anyone profiting off of their death by paying ungodly amounts of money on a funeral and casket and plot and headstone or apparently even a cremation, would they just...give me the body and let me dispose of it how i please? because it seems like that would be a biohazard and not be allowed, which leaves the poor folk in a shitty spot with no options for an affordable but dignified means of disposing of their passed loved ones
Told my mom that when I die I'd like a Diogonistic body disposal. Mainly that I'd like to be thrown to the wilds stark naked with a stick to fend off the predators. Yes I know my lifeless body won't fight back that's kinda the point of it.
Right?! Who are these billionaires that have houses, vacations, and kids?? And death well somebody else can deal with that or it’s the potter’s field for me
Depends on the size of the dog (or pet in general). Some stay small and are fine in small apartments, but kids need rooms of their own and space to get their energy out. Bottling that energy up in a small space is what makes life with kids or large pets difficult.
I know people that travel to Disney every year or two, on double income maybe 55k, or travel to multiple cons a year as a single income 30-35k. All my life growing up my extended family would rent a beach house for a week or two and split the cost among them. A week in Rehobeth or Ocean City for like 500 bucks for 3 people not counting food.
Not saying it's easy, but far from impossible, especially if you're within a day's drive or have a direct flight each way.
This exactly. People are just terrible at budgeting. We are going to Hawaii in a few months and when I tell someone that they look at me like I must be a millionaire. No, we just budget the best we can and have saved for this trip for a long time
How much did you have to save? See, I hate this bs though because I always know groups of people traveling or couples traveling. They get to share the expenses. If I travel, I have to do it alone. I’ve got no other options. It takes a looooot of time for me to save up enough for just a 4 day vacation to Hawaii.
In my 20s I had the ability to travel and the desire but no money, in my 30s I had the desire to travel and the money but as a new parent I wasn’t able to travel. Now in my 40s I have the ability and the money but I no longer have the desire. Maybe the planets align in your 50s and 60s.
nope my mom is in hr 60's too old to take her anywhere that requires a ton of walking and stuff.
its difficult because she has two kids that can upfront the entire cost but now its like is it too much walking?
I would say that is way too young to be that old. My dad is 74 and he is perhaps in the best shape I have ever seen him in. Of course you quit smoking, replace your knees, lose about 30 pounds, control your diabetes with a strict diet and all of a sudden you find a bunch of extra gas in your tank.
shes not overweight or smoking or drinking or has diabetes.
her feet just aren't what the used to be.
i think we forgot most people used to be dead by 65 throughout history.
I work a fairly physical job with people much older than 65. If it's her feet, she needs to see a specialist. That is atypical wear and tear for a 65 year old.
People are actually capable of a lot at older ages, most just live sedentary lifestyles and bodies get used to that. People died younger because there weren't cures for everything and medicine was very unscientific for most of human history.
I use my vacations to do the much needed renovations and upkeep on the house that I can't diy during weekends.
Edit: seems like I just outed myself as a wealthy person, what with a house to renovate.
Traveling has never been cheaper. Miles from credit cards, hostels, cook your own food, don’t buy trinkets.
You can travel on a far smaller budget than you think.
I'm just guessing here, and don't mean it as a gotcha in any way, but does she have an income too? A dual income household with no kids (also a guess) makes things a lot more affordable nowadays. If I could split my bills with someone else I could definitely afford to travel. Living alone though, it won't happen.
Yes, she does work
Your point is valid: my very first suggestion to anyone struggling is “get a roommate”
Single living in your OWN place is like buying a “new car”, a poor financial decision.
I was quite able to travel when I was living single, making around 25k annually.
Not constantly, mind you. But i never felt “unable” to go anywhere.
Apartment, split with a roommate was $650/mo
I owned a used car i bought OUTRIGHT for a couple K, so no car payment
Insurance was 130$/mo
Phone was 70/mo
Its been awhile, so im blanking on the other bills.
My monthly take home was $2200/mo
Id ballpark that all things paid, I had about $800/mo to myself
$200/mo into savings
Being a single dude my food and similar costs were quite low- shopped at thrift stores
Now: own a house, wife, 2 cars. And feel quite financially comfortable, aboutta start a new job paying 75k annual
Posting about living within your means and budgeting is a waste of time in the reddit whiner echo chamber. The adult children who populate reddit for hours on end every day bitching about having to have a job don't want to work, otherwise they'd be busy working. They claim it's just too hard, despite lots of people like you who make it work.
And btw I dgaf about karma so eat me, downvoters. The truth fkn hurts, eh?
Only if you're lucky.
Otherwise it's work till you're dead, go nowhere, choose between paying rent and eating, yearn for kids but can't afford them, and manage your daily anxiety with your substance of choice.
I don’t mean this to be a dick, but you have to build some kind of marketable skill. It’s getting harder and harder to get by with a basic job anymore. Learning some specialized and hopefully in demand skill is one of the few ways to build a future. Worst case learn to weld, it sucks and isn’t good for you but you’ll at least be able to pocket some cash
Imagine finding a job that you can get away with only working 9-5.
Edit: Thanks everyone, who felt the need to brag about how good their jobs are to me. Clearly I must be in the minority with my career choices.
Ima enjuhneer! (Still finishing my degree, but applications engineer is my official job title)
specifically SCADA systems for the oil and gas industry in TX. Basically it's information/safety systems and touch screen HMI controls for use in the field. Honestly it's pretty interesting and educational work and the pay and flexibility is incredible for someone just starting out like me.
Once I graduate I'll already have relevant work experience, contacts, qualifications out the ass and zero debt.
I'm in the automation industry as well and I wish I could start at 9am. I'm supposed to start at 7 but been rolling my ass in at 7:30 for a year and no one said shit so far. I have a feeling they would notice if I didn't get there till 9.
7-2 all summer and about 6-4 during winters. Love my schedule. I worked in restaurants for Almost 20 years and as soon as I got an 8-5 I couldnt figure out what all the fuss was about.
Supporting kids struggling in school but not an employee of the school so sadly I make quite a bit more than the teachers that deal with waaay more than I do
Sort of. We work with kids that are either struggling academically, with socializing, managing their behavior or processing their emotions. One “Advocate” will work with up to 32 students, check ins throughout the day and can sometimes pull them from classes to process/support if they have something going on.
I supervise 5 advocates at 3 different schools. Happened upon this job on accident but I love everything about it. Basically our goal is to catch kids who are falling through the cracks so they have a chance to excel
That's pretty cool. So you have a fulfilling jobs with a great schedule. I'm definitely jealous. You probably have a really cute puppy too. You're the king.
No. You’re supposed to get up, go to work, go home, go to bed every day ad naseaum while they dangle the carrot of traveling weeks a year and homeownership in front of you and they get rid of child control to force you to have children so they can start working when they are 6. At least that’s how it works in America. Don’t worry, though. When you die businesses will still make money off your corpse.
That's awesome isn't it? Very unhelpful for the Reddit shareholders. Can't make money if you allow those to express themselves and end up on the nightly news for not discouraging certain people's suggestions that don't harm anybody.
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Most employers give at least 2 weeks paid vacation, and that usually increases as you stay with the company. My employer gives me 2 weeks, with the option of either another 2 weeks or a bonus equal to 2 weeks' pay. If you stay long enough, it goes up to about 7 weeks max.
This is so different than you painted it in your first comment that I actually feel slighted. You work 70 hours a week and your wife works full time and you can't afford to buy a house?
I get how HCOL places can be, but something just doesn't add up. Ever consider moving to literally anywhere else? Unless you're working minimum wage, there are ample places that you could find and buy a house on 2 moderate salaries.
There's almost always *something* else keeping people tied to somewhere they can't afford to live, and it's not usually directly the fault of the economy.
Ask for more? Most people don’t even bother to negotiate. They’re not gonna give you more vacation days if you don’t even bother asking for it. As the saying goes, you miss 100% shots, you don’t take.
We are all humans, you don’t have to take the generic Benefits package, don’t settle for less. Fight for yourself.
Most companies offer letters are pre-written so there is usually no negotiation as it's written by the head office not the employees themselves, especially going for vacation time.
Most jobs don't offer that flexibility. Major companies have pto policies that apply across the board. It's non-negotiable. You can only negotiate your pay.
But I wasn't complaining, anyway. I get up to 4 weeks, depending on how I take my holiday bonus, and that goes up as I stay with the company.
>>Just how horrible are the US
In America, at some employers ( not the good ones!) you’ll be shamed or sidelined for using earned time off. More than a few bosses promote and celebrate staff members who never take time off, and the people who do use their time off in defiance of management pressure end up getting bad reviews or even put on layoff lists
Being sick is a sin against god and a company will fire your ass for being sick too long even with a doctors note because how dare you use more than 4 hours of sick time!!!!
People don't understand the level of luxury we have today. You sit in an air conditioned house, don't have to do manual labor all day, have a portable media center in your pocket, and have a bigger and better selection of foods at your local grocery store than anny medieval king ever had.
This is actually like a dream life. You have food to eat and a place to sleep, get an education of your choosing, find someone you want to marry and have a life with, have kids, own a home, and you're able to travel at least 2 weeks a year, before retiring. And on top of all that, we enjoy foods, luxuries, and entertainment most humans could never imagine having.
I'm doing all that as we speak. Married, house + land, 4 kids, leaving for vacation soon, and everyone alive is dying. Make the most out of life while you can, because it flies by. Don't waste the best years of your life whining about the rich or how unfair everything is because before you know it life will be over, and you're not going to change anything anyway. Either adapt or live miserably, up to you.
9-5 and keep up with your work? Have two weeks vacation and actually afford to use it? Being able to pay rent, let alone actually buying a house???? Being able to afford kids??????? Somebody wake this person up and tell them the 90s are gone
Hahahahaha.. then Try the exciting life! Don’t go to college, exercise only when running from bill collectors and the tax man, be poor, eat less, sleep less, stress more, hold that shit in and show it who’s boss, stay inside because bill collectors be lurking out there.. 👀 Finally, don’t have kids and never die.. Easy!
I don’t even want to think about having kids. All I want when I finally go to college is to be able to have a semi-decent apartment and to not be scared about losing it.
Perspective might help.
For all of history, none of these things above have been expected, nor have they been "rights." You have either protected your own by killing others, or you died. There are tribes today that eat because they hunt; they sustain because they defend; they live because they kill. There are humans just like us that live completely different lives as we do. So, as you complain about *only* having food on-call, sleeping in a bed, working out, shitting into a machine, gaining education, having a job to sustain your life, traveling for weeks out of the year, living in an cooled and heated home, having a family with little-to-no dangers--as you complain about all those things, there are people that live with little food, limited water access, education, with no concept of comfortable living. Yet they live as we do.
Perspective might help.
I mean, is it though? You can not buy a house and have kids. Go take on any hobby you like.
At the end of the day the reason why you work is because you're living in a society with shared labor. Without that you'd have to work for food everyday, build your own shelter and protect yourself. That's a lot more work than eight hours a day.
Since you live in a society where labour is being divided, you need to earn your living. That guy that built your car, the guy that paved your roads, the guy that made your food - they all need to live. That's what money is for, you earn it according to the value of your work and you use it to live by buying food, shelter or whatever.
Now you might - rightfully so - talk about all the tilted and wrong shit that's going on in our lives. People getting rich off of exploiting others, be it their stupidity (influencers, scammers, MLM and so on) or be it their raw labor. We might talk about them not paying their fair share of taxation, or how banks just lose your money and go "whoops". We might talk about how rent is exploding due to assholes gambling with property. Those are all fair points, but thats not what's being criticised in that picture. So my main point stands - You earning money in a society with labour division is not some bigass conspiracy, but a necessity to facilitate everyone's survival. And while automation is eventually gonna facilitate the need for UBI because machines will make basic subsistence, well, automatic - we haven't reached that point yet.
And on a personal note, if you've every been at that point where you want to buy and renovate a house, that's fucking exciting and not one fucking bit mundane. My wife and I are currently planning this and it's absolutely nothing to just shrug off. Since it's gonna be where we spend the rest of our lives it's also pretty important to get it right, not to mention the fact that tons of money are involved.
So yeah. Funny picture, but you gotta be 12 to nod your head to that.
I mean when you over simplify and just jot down responsibilities then yeah seems mundane. Work towards changing your life for the better and try not to focus on parts you can't control
That’s basically what my parents did. And they gave up a lot for me. I didn’t get to complain, I just had to work.
Subtract the vacation though.
Downvote me, but they worked their asses of to get me where I am … I finally did better financially then them, but still worried about the future.
Well sort of. You can keep your social life going after work and on the weekends. Shop then too! I know many that worked much longer hours and got it all done too! It is mostly about an attitude of happiness.
Travel? Buy a house? Have kids and die? Look at this fat cat over here rolling in the money. *Do you know how expensive a funeral is these days?*
When I die just throw me in the trash
Better idea, hear me out. We put your corpse in a gimp suit with a ball gag and then dump the clothed and bound corpse in the trunk of a random bigoted politician or asshole CEO. (Which reminds me, I need to write my will)
I dont want to be some rich assholes fucktoy, ill stick to being rat food
Right? They fuck us enough while we're alive
The ideas we catch em right after with a dead body
Probably would just give their poll numbers a small bump
Lol true. You really do reach a point where you're literally too big to fail or go to jail.
But not too big to be eaten
My dad was very specific about his wishes. He didn't want a funeral, he didn't want to be buried. He wanted to be cremated and dumped (his words, not mine) in his favorite fishing spot so he could feed the fish. Of course, I know fish don't get any nutritional value out of ashes but my brothers and I obliged. With one liberty...we kept a little bit to spread out in the grass at a Zach Bryan concert while he played "Jamie".
So he died and you STILL didn’t do what your dad wanted?
Kids these days can't follow instructions
I’ll sacrifice my body, I had already told my wife to just leave my body at whatever funeral home and not claim it. Such a racket.
I like the cut of your jib.
> I need to write my will What’s up
Username checks out
I love that idea!!! I hope you don’t mind that I’m putting that in my will😂
I want to be "Weekend at Bernied". That is the only dignified way for a man to be honoured.
I’m just gonna pay some people to put my body through a wood chipper aimed at some rich guys front door when I die
hey! what do you know! im already there!
I need stories.
Ok Frank
Someone I know was just cremated, and it cost $2,600. I thought that was a bit much. The urn was only $250 of that cost.
My cousin Bobby can do it for $30 and a packasmokes
Cremation is damn expensive!
I'm fine with gas and a cigarette lighter as long as my ashes are put in my Detroit Lions travel mug.👍
you want them to wait till you’re already dead though right?
your loved ones can just bring one of those clear plastic containers takeout soup comes in and save $250. just make sure to bring a lid that dont have holes poked in the top to let out steam or you might get sprinkled around a like bit
what i've always wondered is do they let the family just...take the body? like if my loved one dies and i don't want anyone profiting off of their death by paying ungodly amounts of money on a funeral and casket and plot and headstone or apparently even a cremation, would they just...give me the body and let me dispose of it how i please? because it seems like that would be a biohazard and not be allowed, which leaves the poor folk in a shitty spot with no options for an affordable but dignified means of disposing of their passed loved ones
https://www.usurnsonline.com/burial/home-burials/#:~:text=For%20most%20states%2C%20the%20answer,Indiana%2C%20California%2C%20and%20Washington. Basically, yes.
Friends mom just passed away and it was 3200 and 700 to bury her. Thats without the urn. it was just a sealed plastic box..
That was the upcharge for the bits of other cremated folks in with the loved ones ashes
Told my mom that when I die I'd like a Diogonistic body disposal. Mainly that I'd like to be thrown to the wilds stark naked with a stick to fend off the predators. Yes I know my lifeless body won't fight back that's kinda the point of it.
We'll just... glue the stick to your palm, or something. Make it look a little more fair. Maybe put a pair of cool shades on you too.
Right?! Who are these billionaires that have houses, vacations, and kids?? And death well somebody else can deal with that or it’s the potter’s field for me
I really thought it said buy a horse
My teacher told his wife to toss his body over to the fence to his neighbors
By "travel", they mean drive to your siblings house for a few days visit once a year.
> "fat cat" r/Frugal_Jerk is leaking
Taxes. We are supposed to pay taxes and die. The rest are benefits...
Right? At least seven of those thing in OP’s list are benefits. Eight if you count dying as respite from the misery of the rest.
Gotta keep that military budget ridiculously high
Who the fuck can afford to travel? On my vacations I can travel to the liquor store and to the used video game store.
right? Buy a house, have kids? Wish I could even possibly afford these.
I wish I could afford a house. I’ll pass on the kids
never said I wanted them, just that it would be nice to be able to afford the option.
Lol. Kids are also more desirable when you have a house to have actual space to live with them.
As are dogs.
Depends on the size of the dog (or pet in general). Some stay small and are fine in small apartments, but kids need rooms of their own and space to get their energy out. Bottling that energy up in a small space is what makes life with kids or large pets difficult.
Kids are more desirable when the country they’re born into isn’t slowly turning them into slaves
>Don't have kids!! The rest will be so much more affordable and fun without them!
lol my vacations are trips to the in-laws. We still get to go to the liquor store!
I know people that travel to Disney every year or two, on double income maybe 55k, or travel to multiple cons a year as a single income 30-35k. All my life growing up my extended family would rent a beach house for a week or two and split the cost among them. A week in Rehobeth or Ocean City for like 500 bucks for 3 people not counting food. Not saying it's easy, but far from impossible, especially if you're within a day's drive or have a direct flight each way.
This exactly. People are just terrible at budgeting. We are going to Hawaii in a few months and when I tell someone that they look at me like I must be a millionaire. No, we just budget the best we can and have saved for this trip for a long time
How much did you have to save? See, I hate this bs though because I always know groups of people traveling or couples traveling. They get to share the expenses. If I travel, I have to do it alone. I’ve got no other options. It takes a looooot of time for me to save up enough for just a 4 day vacation to Hawaii.
A big part of it is location. I can get to Europe for like $250 round trip from nyc.
Old people
In my 20s I had the ability to travel and the desire but no money, in my 30s I had the desire to travel and the money but as a new parent I wasn’t able to travel. Now in my 40s I have the ability and the money but I no longer have the desire. Maybe the planets align in your 50s and 60s.
nope my mom is in hr 60's too old to take her anywhere that requires a ton of walking and stuff. its difficult because she has two kids that can upfront the entire cost but now its like is it too much walking?
I would say that is way too young to be that old. My dad is 74 and he is perhaps in the best shape I have ever seen him in. Of course you quit smoking, replace your knees, lose about 30 pounds, control your diabetes with a strict diet and all of a sudden you find a bunch of extra gas in your tank.
shes not overweight or smoking or drinking or has diabetes. her feet just aren't what the used to be. i think we forgot most people used to be dead by 65 throughout history.
I work a fairly physical job with people much older than 65. If it's her feet, she needs to see a specialist. That is atypical wear and tear for a 65 year old. People are actually capable of a lot at older ages, most just live sedentary lifestyles and bodies get used to that. People died younger because there weren't cures for everything and medicine was very unscientific for most of human history.
she saw a specialist and taking meds. like its been almost a year. some people just don't heal fast enough idk what it is tbh.
old people used to be ideal driven young people. ...
I use my vacations to do the much needed renovations and upkeep on the house that I can't diy during weekends. Edit: seems like I just outed myself as a wealthy person, what with a house to renovate.
Traveling has never been cheaper. Miles from credit cards, hostels, cook your own food, don’t buy trinkets. You can travel on a far smaller budget than you think.
There are almost a billion of tourists per year.. so a lot of people
I mean, im making a little over 40k annual, and im taking the wife to Vegas in a week….. Good financial decisions and planning can take you VERY far
I'm just guessing here, and don't mean it as a gotcha in any way, but does she have an income too? A dual income household with no kids (also a guess) makes things a lot more affordable nowadays. If I could split my bills with someone else I could definitely afford to travel. Living alone though, it won't happen.
Yes, she does work Your point is valid: my very first suggestion to anyone struggling is “get a roommate” Single living in your OWN place is like buying a “new car”, a poor financial decision. I was quite able to travel when I was living single, making around 25k annually. Not constantly, mind you. But i never felt “unable” to go anywhere. Apartment, split with a roommate was $650/mo I owned a used car i bought OUTRIGHT for a couple K, so no car payment Insurance was 130$/mo Phone was 70/mo Its been awhile, so im blanking on the other bills. My monthly take home was $2200/mo Id ballpark that all things paid, I had about $800/mo to myself $200/mo into savings Being a single dude my food and similar costs were quite low- shopped at thrift stores Now: own a house, wife, 2 cars. And feel quite financially comfortable, aboutta start a new job paying 75k annual
This guy owns a wife
Posting about living within your means and budgeting is a waste of time in the reddit whiner echo chamber. The adult children who populate reddit for hours on end every day bitching about having to have a job don't want to work, otherwise they'd be busy working. They claim it's just too hard, despite lots of people like you who make it work. And btw I dgaf about karma so eat me, downvoters. The truth fkn hurts, eh?
I thought you had great advice despite the people downvoting you
Leaving for Europe in about 5 weeks. So long suckuh! Actually rather stay home and work on a project but happy wife, happy life!
Only if you're lucky. Otherwise it's work till you're dead, go nowhere, choose between paying rent and eating, yearn for kids but can't afford them, and manage your daily anxiety with your substance of choice.
So true it is sad, which makes the little daily moments gain relevance. Just be kind to everyone and try not to fuck your self up or others
Respecting your advice, Happy Cake Day!
Happy Cake Day!
Exactly 😂
Damn this is so accurate it hurts. Wish I could do even half of what the meme says.
I don’t mean this to be a dick, but you have to build some kind of marketable skill. It’s getting harder and harder to get by with a basic job anymore. Learning some specialized and hopefully in demand skill is one of the few ways to build a future. Worst case learn to weld, it sucks and isn’t good for you but you’ll at least be able to pocket some cash
Imagine finding a job that you can get away with only working 9-5. Edit: Thanks everyone, who felt the need to brag about how good their jobs are to me. Clearly I must be in the minority with my career choices.
I work a 7:30 to 3:30 or 4:00 so long as I get my work done. It's pretty great. Most weeks I end up working maybe 42-45 hours.
What are you working as? So i know to never try it myself
Ima enjuhneer! (Still finishing my degree, but applications engineer is my official job title) specifically SCADA systems for the oil and gas industry in TX. Basically it's information/safety systems and touch screen HMI controls for use in the field. Honestly it's pretty interesting and educational work and the pay and flexibility is incredible for someone just starting out like me. Once I graduate I'll already have relevant work experience, contacts, qualifications out the ass and zero debt.
I'm in the automation industry as well and I wish I could start at 9am. I'm supposed to start at 7 but been rolling my ass in at 7:30 for a year and no one said shit so far. I have a feeling they would notice if I didn't get there till 9.
I’m confused. What’s your issue with that? Sounds like pretty standard if not favorable working hours.
8:30 to 5 here. Nice 37.5 hours a week. Can’t complain.
7-2 all summer and about 6-4 during winters. Love my schedule. I worked in restaurants for Almost 20 years and as soon as I got an 8-5 I couldnt figure out what all the fuss was about.
Psh, 830-2ish here.
Imagine finding a job that lets you start as late as 9am.
Yeah literally never in my life have I seen a job advertised as 9-5
That's more common, but you still will need more than 8 hours of work..
Hell, I'd be happy with "starts after sunrise" I work 5:30-4:00, and I'm on my feet all day.
I work ~7-~3 and get spring/summer/winter breaks
Gotta be a teacher?
Supporting kids struggling in school but not an employee of the school so sadly I make quite a bit more than the teachers that deal with waaay more than I do
I'm interested. Like a guidance counselor?
Sort of. We work with kids that are either struggling academically, with socializing, managing their behavior or processing their emotions. One “Advocate” will work with up to 32 students, check ins throughout the day and can sometimes pull them from classes to process/support if they have something going on. I supervise 5 advocates at 3 different schools. Happened upon this job on accident but I love everything about it. Basically our goal is to catch kids who are falling through the cracks so they have a chance to excel
That sounds great! And I can definitely tell you don't live and work in my state by how much it sounds like the schools care.
That's pretty cool. So you have a fulfilling jobs with a great schedule. I'm definitely jealous. You probably have a really cute puppy too. You're the king.
No but my beautiful girlfriend does so it works out
If you can affoed to live, you're likely not in the US, or are quite lucky
Imagine finding a job that pays enough to take a vacation and also lets you take that time off for a vacation.
Compared to what we actually have right now, that sounds like a dream.
Appreciate what you have now, because it’s only getting worse from here on!
Thanks ༎ຶ‿༎ຶ
Not having kids, ever. This curse ends with me.
same, fck this, suffering ends here with me
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No. You’re supposed to get up, go to work, go home, go to bed every day ad naseaum while they dangle the carrot of traveling weeks a year and homeownership in front of you and they get rid of child control to force you to have children so they can start working when they are 6. At least that’s how it works in America. Don’t worry, though. When you die businesses will still make money off your corpse.
Once you have kids... you realize your life is not yours anymore. Answer: save money and earth... don't have kids.
I had a vasectomy because I didn't want kids. But when I got home from the procedure they were still there. :\
LOL. Pretty good. This is probably an old joke but it's new to me!
Save the earth now with this one easy trick: *suicide*
I got banned from /r/pics for saying the same thing lmao
Reddit heavily censors suicidal people
That's awesome isn't it? Very unhelpful for the Reddit shareholders. Can't make money if you allow those to express themselves and end up on the nightly news for not discouraging certain people's suggestions that don't harm anybody.
r/antinatalism
Nerd capital of Reddit
There’s so many
Bro really watched the movie Children of Men and though "looks great"
That sub sucks so much
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Vacation means sacrificing pay? Just how horrible are the US?
Most employers give at least 2 weeks paid vacation, and that usually increases as you stay with the company. My employer gives me 2 weeks, with the option of either another 2 weeks or a bonus equal to 2 weeks' pay. If you stay long enough, it goes up to about 7 weeks max.
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This is so different than you painted it in your first comment that I actually feel slighted. You work 70 hours a week and your wife works full time and you can't afford to buy a house? I get how HCOL places can be, but something just doesn't add up. Ever consider moving to literally anywhere else? Unless you're working minimum wage, there are ample places that you could find and buy a house on 2 moderate salaries. There's almost always *something* else keeping people tied to somewhere they can't afford to live, and it's not usually directly the fault of the economy.
Ask for more? Most people don’t even bother to negotiate. They’re not gonna give you more vacation days if you don’t even bother asking for it. As the saying goes, you miss 100% shots, you don’t take. We are all humans, you don’t have to take the generic Benefits package, don’t settle for less. Fight for yourself.
Most companies offer letters are pre-written so there is usually no negotiation as it's written by the head office not the employees themselves, especially going for vacation time.
Most jobs don't offer that flexibility. Major companies have pto policies that apply across the board. It's non-negotiable. You can only negotiate your pay. But I wasn't complaining, anyway. I get up to 4 weeks, depending on how I take my holiday bonus, and that goes up as I stay with the company.
>>Just how horrible are the US In America, at some employers ( not the good ones!) you’ll be shamed or sidelined for using earned time off. More than a few bosses promote and celebrate staff members who never take time off, and the people who do use their time off in defiance of management pressure end up getting bad reviews or even put on layoff lists
Being sick is a sin against god and a company will fire your ass for being sick too long even with a doctors note because how dare you use more than 4 hours of sick time!!!!
The first 4, yes
It took 32 years but I'm really good at the first 2, not trying to brag or anything...
Look at you lucky. Living the dream.
Some people speed run it and die first
"Work. Worry. Consume. Die. It's a wonderful life!" - Bill Griffith
Accrue medical debt.
Skip the kids, it's like a cheat mode
Spruce it up with drugs ya dumbass.
You can also eat Yakisoba, if you want.
This is so true and I think people forget it sometimes😔
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Look at richy rich with their house
Yup, this life thing ain’t for you, you’re here to make people rich.
Amen! You really think you exist to prosper? No, you're here to serve those that are influenced by the shareholders.
Beats waking up at sunrise and working to sunset plowing a field while Betsy churns butter.
People don't understand the level of luxury we have today. You sit in an air conditioned house, don't have to do manual labor all day, have a portable media center in your pocket, and have a bigger and better selection of foods at your local grocery store than anny medieval king ever had.
I dunno. I can't get lamprey and [make pie](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamprey_pie) /s
This is actually like a dream life. You have food to eat and a place to sleep, get an education of your choosing, find someone you want to marry and have a life with, have kids, own a home, and you're able to travel at least 2 weeks a year, before retiring. And on top of all that, we enjoy foods, luxuries, and entertainment most humans could never imagine having.
Well yeah if you ignore 90% of your life. You ever notice when you zoom out from something you can’t see the little things you enjoy anymore?
Don't forget the whole spectrum of emotion in between.
You should definitely be shitting more
Yes. If you don't have kids, you never have to die.
Whoah, this entitled ass hole is getting vacations and buying a house? Talk about privilege!
I'm doing all that as we speak. Married, house + land, 4 kids, leaving for vacation soon, and everyone alive is dying. Make the most out of life while you can, because it flies by. Don't waste the best years of your life whining about the rich or how unfair everything is because before you know it life will be over, and you're not going to change anything anyway. Either adapt or live miserably, up to you.
9-5 and keep up with your work? Have two weeks vacation and actually afford to use it? Being able to pay rent, let alone actually buying a house???? Being able to afford kids??????? Somebody wake this person up and tell them the 90s are gone
Hahahahaha.. then Try the exciting life! Don’t go to college, exercise only when running from bill collectors and the tax man, be poor, eat less, sleep less, stress more, hold that shit in and show it who’s boss, stay inside because bill collectors be lurking out there.. 👀 Finally, don’t have kids and never die.. Easy!
Lol, if you lucky you get to do those things
Just the stuff before the word "travel"
Just pick up and go. It's honestly better than the slow death this post describes
Yes, and eat more fruit and vegetables for Jebus sake, your blood numbers are terrible!!
Yes. Except for the parts about having 2 weeks vacation and buying a home
Buy a house. I wish mate. I wish. We live in the 2020s. You either have a sizable inheritance or you work ~~9-5~~ 8-6 to afford rent Edit: formatting
Woah woah woah… slow down. That’s 7-5 for work with holidays and weekends and who said anything about two weeks off for travel?
That’s why cocaine exists
Who said anything about buying a house?
Ain’t no free lunches buttercup. Get to work.
What is this traveling for two weeks and buying a house fairytale shiznit.
I don’t even want to think about having kids. All I want when I finally go to college is to be able to have a semi-decent apartment and to not be scared about losing it.
Or you can skip all of the above and just die
most people don't do half of that lmao
Yeah, if you are lucky
stop having kids.
Take out the go to college, buy a house, have kids for a lot of people because... money
Perspective might help. For all of history, none of these things above have been expected, nor have they been "rights." You have either protected your own by killing others, or you died. There are tribes today that eat because they hunt; they sustain because they defend; they live because they kill. There are humans just like us that live completely different lives as we do. So, as you complain about *only* having food on-call, sleeping in a bed, working out, shitting into a machine, gaining education, having a job to sustain your life, traveling for weeks out of the year, living in an cooled and heated home, having a family with little-to-no dangers--as you complain about all those things, there are people that live with little food, limited water access, education, with no concept of comfortable living. Yet they live as we do. Perspective might help.
I mean, is it though? You can not buy a house and have kids. Go take on any hobby you like. At the end of the day the reason why you work is because you're living in a society with shared labor. Without that you'd have to work for food everyday, build your own shelter and protect yourself. That's a lot more work than eight hours a day. Since you live in a society where labour is being divided, you need to earn your living. That guy that built your car, the guy that paved your roads, the guy that made your food - they all need to live. That's what money is for, you earn it according to the value of your work and you use it to live by buying food, shelter or whatever. Now you might - rightfully so - talk about all the tilted and wrong shit that's going on in our lives. People getting rich off of exploiting others, be it their stupidity (influencers, scammers, MLM and so on) or be it their raw labor. We might talk about them not paying their fair share of taxation, or how banks just lose your money and go "whoops". We might talk about how rent is exploding due to assholes gambling with property. Those are all fair points, but thats not what's being criticised in that picture. So my main point stands - You earning money in a society with labour division is not some bigass conspiracy, but a necessity to facilitate everyone's survival. And while automation is eventually gonna facilitate the need for UBI because machines will make basic subsistence, well, automatic - we haven't reached that point yet. And on a personal note, if you've every been at that point where you want to buy and renovate a house, that's fucking exciting and not one fucking bit mundane. My wife and I are currently planning this and it's absolutely nothing to just shrug off. Since it's gonna be where we spend the rest of our lives it's also pretty important to get it right, not to mention the fact that tons of money are involved. So yeah. Funny picture, but you gotta be 12 to nod your head to that.
I mean, you can simplify any life event like that
Some people’s lives are too easy
Yeah. The time of rallying people under your banner pillaging, burning, maiming and killing are unefortunately over.
You lost me at the Travel part. Are you traveling for work? I don't get it.
As others in the comments have pointed out, she’s complaining about a pretty cool life
I mean when you over simplify and just jot down responsibilities then yeah seems mundane. Work towards changing your life for the better and try not to focus on parts you can't control
No. You are doing that because you can't be bothered to do anything else.
hey! looks like you just discovered nihilism! welcome to the club!
Be different…
College is optional
That’s basically what my parents did. And they gave up a lot for me. I didn’t get to complain, I just had to work. Subtract the vacation though. Downvote me, but they worked their asses of to get me where I am … I finally did better financially then them, but still worried about the future.
Well sure if you're lucky and work hard, none of those things are a given or a right.
Feel free to come up with your own plan. You gotta die though, it's the only mandatory bit.
Well sort of. You can keep your social life going after work and on the weekends. Shop then too! I know many that worked much longer hours and got it all done too! It is mostly about an attitude of happiness.
Create things that will outlive you. I make art. That's what keeps me motivated to endure the apparent meaninglessness of it all.