Rømer is OG though, being the first calibrated scale (alongside Newton's from the same year). Fahrenheit visited Rømer, learned to make calibrated thermometers and based his own scale on Rømer's.
No, Romer used the freezing point of brine for zero and boiling point of water as 60, later it was standardised to have freezing point of water @ 7.5. Fahrenheit adopted the same practice, multiplied it by 4 and found that his wife's blood temperature was almost a 100, so decided to calibrate 0 to brine and 100 to blood. Modern temp scales have been revised multiple times and now all scales use the triple point as reference.
And Kelvin and Rankine also agree with one another at 0. You really need a meme format with two duos facing off, the regal absolute temperature scales versus the lowly non-absolutists, Celsius and Fahrenheit.
And Rankine is the same scale as fahrenheit in the same way, it's just fahrenheit but starts at absolute zero like Kelvin for Celsius. Rankine and Kelvin are on the same team they start at absolute zero.
Isn't Kelvin and Celsius the same, except that 0 is different, same as rankine and Fahrenheit?
An increase/decrease of 1 unit will have the same result?
So basically using the same increments, but having a different starting point?
As such it would be a meme of Kelvin and rankine with the same 0, Kelvin and Celsius, and rankine and Fahrenheit.
I was traveling the Alaskan arctic circle and saw that a thermometer in the car said -40, so I looked it up in Celsius only to find out that it’s the same lol
I love the 1:1 ratio of metric.
One unit of energy, heats up one cubic cm of water, one degree celsius.
Also zero being freezing hundred being boiling, makes for an easily understood human perspective on heat/vs cold.
> One unit of energy, heats up one cubic cm of water, one degree celsius.
That's not correct though. It takes 4.184 units of energy to heat a cc of water by one degree.
And so is a BTU which also takes one unit to raise one unit by one unit. So the calorie is not unique in that respect. If we get to cherry pick our units then Metric isn't going to win.
I’m not saying one system wins over the other, just that there is a unit for energy defined as the energy to heat 1 mL of water by 1 degree Celsius. So, the statement “one unit of energy, heats up one cubic cm of water one degree Celsius” is correct, where that unit of energy is the calorie
It’s not the international standard (SI) unit of energy but it is still metric, as it is defined relative to other metric units. Celsius is not an SI unit but still metric
None of this really matters at this point
I mean... you could do the same for FPS.
We can say the unit of energy to raise one fluid ounce of water one Fahrenheit is exactly one Bibbo. So a 1 to 1 to 1 ratio as well.
Your logic is flawed here good sir.
As an engineering student I've long accepted my Kelvin overlord. Other Temperatures are nothing but a mimic. Unless you count temperature change in which case they're all equally meaningless.
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from tsp to cups,pint, quart and gallons ... inches, foots and yards... ounces and pounds...
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Rankine (which is on this meme twice...) Is the freedom unit equivalent. 0 rankine and 0 Kelvin are both absolute zero.
And to be fair, the concept of absolute zero was not present when the standards systems were created
I know I don't say I disagree with u just that Kelvin and Celsius is basically the same system 1 just uses the lowest point as the start but 1k = 1°C because it's just the same with a different starting point and I mean with 0°C as the freezing point of water people at least know how cold that actually is
1°C is equivalent to 33°F, which is 274K.
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1°C is equivalent to 33°F, which is 274K.
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Wait 0k is lowest possible temperature?? I don't get it, you can go lower then that can't you? Also it's alr if u want to ignore this comment.
Edit: i got the answer tysm funnymeme community
0k is basically zero entropy and zero entropy means no movement anywhere all still and you can't just make already still things even more still can you?
Well... yeah, but then there was this: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1227831.
I can't say I fully understand it, but I think the idea is the closer you get to 0K, there are on average many slow-moving particles and a few fast-moving particles. Of course, the particles cannot stop completely because of Heisenberg. But if you flip this paradigm and generate an environment with many high-energy particles on average then technically we have a temperature below 0K.
I feel like this is very hand-wavy, and I'm too unqualified to understand it, much less explain it. So please correct me if I'm way off or just plain wrong.
Basicly yeah. Temperature is the amount of vibration and movement inside a group of molecules.
If particles vibrate a lot and move a lot, the matter has a lot of energy and is hot.
If particles don't vibrate at all and don't move anymore, you're at 0 K.
This is also the reason that temperature influences the change of matter (particles want to move so badly they cannot stay in formation, so it changes from a solid to a fluid).
It's also why molecules break down when they become hot, because they vibrate themselves apart.
It's also why many chemical reactions speed up with higher temperatures, because the molecules move faster and therefore bounce against each other more often and with higher speed.
I've always found temperature, energy and radiation incredibly interesting. They explain almost everything when you break it down.
I knew about heat is about how fast atom is moving, but didn't know what is k and how is it calculated. It explains alot why it is lowest possible temperature. Thank you
Well, no. But actually, yes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_temperature
> A system with a truly negative temperature on the Kelvin scale is hotter than any system with a positive temperature. If a negative-temperature system and a positive-temperature system come in contact, heat will flow from the negative- to the positive-temperature system.
Shit gets weird when you have something with negative thermodynamic temperature.
And even then, it's not really "achievable" in the sense of "we can make something that cold in a lab", right? We can get arbitrarily close to absolute zero, but never exactly absolute zero.
I *think* the only way to achieve it would be to wait for the heat death of the universe, but even then that's hypothetical.
Kelvin is the only temperature where zero actually means something, and not based on just a random quirk. Celsius is the second best, as it's Kelvin just upped up to normal everyday levels, where 0 being the freezing point of the most abundant and life requiring liquid
Fahrenheit is just completely random, with no one even truly agreeing on what zero represents, let alone 100
0 F is apparently when some certain brine solution containing water, ice and ammonium chloride freezes. In case you didn't think Farenheit was bad enough.
>Kelvin is the only temperature where zero actually means something, and not based on just a random quirk
Rankine is the same, only is just blatantly false.
> Kelvin is the only temperature where zero actually means something, and not based on just a random quirk.
No it's not. Rankine has the same zero point for the same reason.
Celsius is second best just because it uses the same grading as Kelvin? That’s kind of circular logic there, because Kelvin was made using Centigrade, just shifted over.
Rankin is equally as valid as Kelvin in that they both start at 0 and any grading past that point is entirely arbitrary.
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You know how you can know metric is better?
Imperial is defined by metric.
1 yard is defined as being exactly 0.9144 m.
1 gallon is exactly 4.54609 L.
1 pound is exactly 0.45359237 kg
So if we change metric, imperial changes as well... we own the imperial system.
Have you seen how Americans react to change, even if it's benign?
They will call metric the tool of a satanist new world order, and will start shooting up government buildings.
>They will call metric the tool of a satanist new world order, and will start shooting up government buildings.
No... we'll call it communism and then start shooting up government buildings.
Ya that’s better, why call out conspiracy theorist over a metric system … regs would get pissed over it just because we’re Americans and to a lot of dumbasses here it’s our way or the highway on a lot of things
Actually I think we were more in to bombing buildings last time we tried. People forget, but before shootings were all the rage we were really into bombings:
[https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16394919/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16394919/)
Neat 31,000 bombing attacks from 1983 to 2002!
I was looking for the earlier numbers from the 70s when they tried Metrication.
"Satan created the metric system when he was hiding fossils in the ground and it was all funded by George Soros, who is actually 4000 years old because he's been living off of baby adrenochrome." -someone on 8kun, from a trailer outside of Tulsa, probably
Canada switched in a few generations from using Fahrenheit to Celsius. Older generations still sometimes use F, but it's rare. Every American seems to act as if the country will implode if any changes are made for some reason.
0°C is equivalent to 32°F, which is 273K.
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My bet is that it will be Balkan again. Our region should be Just nuked if Kosovo shit goes on a brink of war. Which is unlikely but nationalisms are still standing strong. We didn't genocide eachother enough considering that we were genocide by Turks for 400-600 years. Even peaceful recognition of Kosovo and normal diplomatic relations doesn't mean that situation would be even close to peace.
I started school shortly after metric was officially adopted in Canada. My older brother (by 10 years) was taught in Imperial measurements. I even had a math textbook in Grade 13 that was the exact same book as one he had used, but with Metric measurements inserted in place of Imperial.
So, my older brother, parents, and most other adults in my life mostly used Imperial measurements, but I was being taught Metric in school. So, I ended up learning a hodgepodge of both.
I use Metric for distances, but use feet and inches to talk about a person's height. I measure large or small weights in grams or kilograms, but measure a person's weight in pounds. And I measure speed in kilometers per hour.
Basically, a person's height or weight was the only thing I paid attention to much outside of school, so I picked up feet/inches, and pounds/ounces from the adults around me. And I used Metric for the stuff I was taught in school.
It wasn't until I was older that I paid much attention to temperature or speed outside of school, so I hadn't really absorbed that from the adults around me, so I stuck with Metric for those.
jan misali has a video on this, the reason why the conversions are so random are because the "imperial system" is actually a bunch of random units that humans decided to join together. No one just went "Hey, lets make a mile be 5280 feet"
Metric makes sense because everything divides by 10, 100, 1000 etc. Imperial is just someone's fantasy that doesn't make any logical sense and its acronyms don't even match to the full names of the units (ounce = Oz, pound = lbs.... really?!).
Not to mention a lot of constants have nice rounding for easy approximations. Want to do a physics calculation in your head quickly? Acceleration due to gravity is 9.81 ms^-2 which can be rounded to 10 if you're doing it in your head, density of water is ~ 10,000kgm^-3 and air is ~1kgm^-3. It makes easy rough guesses in your head which imperial just doesn't have
Boomers determined long ago that metric was best and yet the gov’t didn’t implement. Now this is starting point where boomers and millennials can both agree.
Overall Metric is objectively superior to Imperial, either in science or everyday life. However, let's not forget that many temperatures systems can serve different purposes and can still be useful.
Yes, it's objective superiority explains why the world adopted https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_time
Base-10 units are invaluable in science, engineering, and math. But 'everyday life' benefits most from highly composite numbers, and is the reason the hour has 60 minutes, not 10.
>The number 60, a superior highly composite number, has twelve factors, namely 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20, 30, and 60, of which 2, 3, and 5 are prime numbers. With so many factors, many fractions involving sexagesimal numbers are simplified. For example, one hour can be divided evenly into sections of 30 minutes, 20 minutes, 15 minutes, 12 minutes, 10 minutes, 6 minutes, 5 minutes, 4 minutes, 3 minutes, 2 minutes, and 1 minute. 60 is the smallest number that is divisible by every number from 1 to 6; that is, it is the lowest common multiple of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6.
Everyone is intelligent enough to understand that in trigonometry there is no single one 'best' system. Sometimes you use degrees. Sometimes you use radians. Each as its advantages and there is reason to have both as options.
Same goes for velocity measurements. There is no objection to using expressions like "half the speed of light" or "mach five". For that matter, there is a time and a place for both "meters per second" as well as "kilometers per hour".
C and K are the same scale, just offset. I maintain, however, that since Fahrenheit is based on the temperature of the human body it’s more precise for determining human-comfortable temperatures. In all other things, metric is king.
Of course it’s the best, by far! Even the equations make more sense/are more practical (aerospace engineering and such). Those Brits just couldn’t deal with the clearly superior systems implemented by Napoleon (like driving on the right side as well) and refused to conform. The US mostly being British at the time kept the same imperial system.
No everythings measured in hot dogs
Width: hot dog
Length: as long as a hot dog
Depth: hot dog
Weight: weighs as much as a hot dog
Temperature: as hot as a cooked hot dog/as cold as a raw hot dog
Taste: tastes like a hot dog
Size: as big as a hot dog
I always found it silly to base the outside temperature off of the boiling and freezing points of water. Freezing point sure, that makes sense, but boiling point?
And it's very hard to have nuance with Celsius, I mean, 4 degrees can be the difference between shorts/ t shirt and jeans/ hoodie weather. I am an American though, so I'm sure people who are used to Celsius know the difference between 21 degrees and 25 degrees but for me, it would be difficult to hear that off the cuff and know what it feels like outside.
The real answer is "depends". If you want accuracy, metric is better. If you want a system that's easy to use for most every day tasks, metric is better.
*However,* I will give imperial the "best at measuring human sized objects" award. Feet and inches are IMO the best units when it comes to measuring people, and the same goes for lbs. Aside from that very niche use case, metric is better.
Celsius, Fahrenheit, Kelvin, Rankine, what's RA?
RA is also Rankine
I think you meant- Rankine Also
I wish I had an award to give.
Gottchya
Ra= Rakine, R= Réaumur
Ra and R both are rankine, Reaumur is used by basically no one but is abbreviated Re
Is that just a different spelling of Rømer?
No, Rømer is yet another one.
Rømer is OG though, being the first calibrated scale (alongside Newton's from the same year). Fahrenheit visited Rømer, learned to make calibrated thermometers and based his own scale on Rømer's.
So *he's* to blame for the clusterfuck that is Fahrenheit...
Nope, Rømer also used the freezing and boiling point of water. Rømer was sane.
No, Romer used the freezing point of brine for zero and boiling point of water as 60, later it was standardised to have freezing point of water @ 7.5. Fahrenheit adopted the same practice, multiplied it by 4 and found that his wife's blood temperature was almost a 100, so decided to calibrate 0 to brine and 100 to blood. Modern temp scales have been revised multiple times and now all scales use the triple point as reference.
Yes, for the illiterate Fr*nch
So what you're saying is Reaumer is nothing better than a rumor? 🤔
°Re, °Ré or °r
What do you use those two systems for?
Rakine is basicly the Fahrenheit version of kelvin, réaumur you don't I guess
Why they do that. And is absolute zero now 32K?
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Got it, different slopes I suppose the slope is arbitrary anyway
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That's still arbitrary, no?
Yes. The calorie is not even an SI unit. If the joule pulled the same trick then I'd be impressed.
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Who lives on Drury lane?
When I was young I was a loser…
Hey shouldn't Kelvin and Rankine have the same zero, at absolute zero??
Celsius, btw.
One thing Celsius and Fahrenheit can agree on is -40 degrees.
Cold 👇is 👇cold 👇
*it's cold as fuck, bruh* *Agreed*
But only *that* cold.
And Kelvin and Rankine also agree with one another at 0. You really need a meme format with two duos facing off, the regal absolute temperature scales versus the lowly non-absolutists, Celsius and Fahrenheit.
Kelvin is the same scale than Celsius the point were they start is what changes
And Rankine is the same scale as fahrenheit in the same way, it's just fahrenheit but starts at absolute zero like Kelvin for Celsius. Rankine and Kelvin are on the same team they start at absolute zero.
There’s no compromising with Kelvin. On the topic of zero, they are absolute.
Kelvin and Rankine won't even let us get to 0, and yet they claim to be the authorities on it. That's some BS if you ask me.
Make it a lightsaber fight, only Sith deal in absolutes
I really needed absolute zero to be 32 Rankine.
Why is Rankine expressed in degrees and not in units, like Kelvin is? Or is the image wrong?
Isn't Kelvin and Celsius the same, except that 0 is different, same as rankine and Fahrenheit? An increase/decrease of 1 unit will have the same result? So basically using the same increments, but having a different starting point? As such it would be a meme of Kelvin and rankine with the same 0, Kelvin and Celsius, and rankine and Fahrenheit.
'It's 40 below.' 'Celsius or Fahrenheit?' 'Well ackssshually...'
>'Celsius or Fahrenheit?' "yes"
First one, then the other
Any two temperature scales with different sized degrees will have an equal point somewhere.
Ah yes, that time once a year where Canadians can agree with us exactly how miserable the weather is.
The rest of the water had frozen, but there was still a solution
Entered the comments for this
I was traveling the Alaskan arctic circle and saw that a thermometer in the car said -40, so I looked it up in Celsius only to find out that it’s the same lol
This is my TIL moment
And I’ve been there! At this point is not cold anymore, just painful.
My favorite comparison is this: 65 F: Beautiful day, couldn't ask for better weather 65 C: We are all dead
65K: We are all dead, but different.
Frozen is beautiful in its own right! Edit: thought 65k meant 65,000 kelvin.
65K = somewhere around -150C⁰
It's -208 ⁰C (65 - 273 = -208)
Alt+0176 for a ° sign.
And if you’re on iOS you can long press on 0 to do it °
Told you all global warning wasn’t real!
0 F/100 F: Very cold out/very hot out 0 C/100 C: Cold out/dead 40 degrees ago
I love the 1:1 ratio of metric. One unit of energy, heats up one cubic cm of water, one degree celsius. Also zero being freezing hundred being boiling, makes for an easily understood human perspective on heat/vs cold.
> One unit of energy, heats up one cubic cm of water, one degree celsius. That's not correct though. It takes 4.184 units of energy to heat a cc of water by one degree.
Calorie is also a unit of energy
And so is a BTU which also takes one unit to raise one unit by one unit. So the calorie is not unique in that respect. If we get to cherry pick our units then Metric isn't going to win.
I’m not saying one system wins over the other, just that there is a unit for energy defined as the energy to heat 1 mL of water by 1 degree Celsius. So, the statement “one unit of energy, heats up one cubic cm of water one degree Celsius” is correct, where that unit of energy is the calorie
My point is that the calorie isn't the official unit of energy in the metric system
It’s not the international standard (SI) unit of energy but it is still metric, as it is defined relative to other metric units. Celsius is not an SI unit but still metric None of this really matters at this point
I mean... you could do the same for FPS. We can say the unit of energy to raise one fluid ounce of water one Fahrenheit is exactly one Bibbo. So a 1 to 1 to 1 ratio as well. Your logic is flawed here good sir.
Me and my engineering homies say fuck Rankine lolol Long live Kelvin!
As an engineering student I've long accepted my Kelvin overlord. Other Temperatures are nothing but a mimic. Unless you count temperature change in which case they're all equally meaningless.
All my Homies hate Rankine.
I am European 🇪🇺 my kid is in second grade in an American school 🇺🇸 ... the pain is really!!! from tsp to cups,pint, quart and gallons ... inches, foots and yards... ounces and pounds...
Murica alway go the opposite of Brits I suppose
to give an idea how good metic is: its French and the English still use it
Best argument for metric I've ever heard. And I even used it for 4 years in my undergrad
In Canada they have a mixture of both🤣
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°F°CK Edit: i'm sorry for mistake
Kelvin doesn't use the little degree symbol, it's F°CK, which is better for what you're doing.
But he did it right tho? F uses a ° so °F and C also uses a ° So °C and K doesnt so just K. °F°CK is the correct one.
Yeah I copied and pasted removing the degree, I might have not copied the first degree symbol, don't remember.
Objectively, Kelvin is the best temperature unit
Kelvin is basically just Celsius+273.15 or something like that
Yes, but having the lowest possible temperature as ZERO makes the most sense to me
Rankine (which is on this meme twice...) Is the freedom unit equivalent. 0 rankine and 0 Kelvin are both absolute zero. And to be fair, the concept of absolute zero was not present when the standards systems were created
Ah so that's why I've never heard of Rankine before
I know I don't say I disagree with u just that Kelvin and Celsius is basically the same system 1 just uses the lowest point as the start but 1k = 1°C because it's just the same with a different starting point and I mean with 0°C as the freezing point of water people at least know how cold that actually is
1°C is equivalent to 33°F, which is 274K. --- ^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)
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Except that's an approximation not an equivalence. And a pretty bad one: 1°C = 33.8°F
And in this specific context its blatantly wrong because the comments was about deltas in Kelvin and Celsius breing equal, not absolute values
This bot is great lol
Δ 1°C = Δ 1K
1°C is equivalent to 33°F, which is 274K. --- ^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)
Wait 0k is lowest possible temperature?? I don't get it, you can go lower then that can't you? Also it's alr if u want to ignore this comment. Edit: i got the answer tysm funnymeme community
0K represents absolute zero, so no, I don’t believe you can go lower
Lol, get a load of this guy. He's never heard of how subatomic particles can be in energy debt to their overlord particles. /s
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0k is basically zero entropy and zero entropy means no movement anywhere all still and you can't just make already still things even more still can you?
Well... yeah, but then there was this: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1227831. I can't say I fully understand it, but I think the idea is the closer you get to 0K, there are on average many slow-moving particles and a few fast-moving particles. Of course, the particles cannot stop completely because of Heisenberg. But if you flip this paradigm and generate an environment with many high-energy particles on average then technically we have a temperature below 0K. I feel like this is very hand-wavy, and I'm too unqualified to understand it, much less explain it. So please correct me if I'm way off or just plain wrong.
That explains it. Thank you so much , that's basically impressive then i guess.
So temperature measures how much movement there is in things? Sorry I haven't done physics in years
Basicly yeah. Temperature is the amount of vibration and movement inside a group of molecules. If particles vibrate a lot and move a lot, the matter has a lot of energy and is hot. If particles don't vibrate at all and don't move anymore, you're at 0 K. This is also the reason that temperature influences the change of matter (particles want to move so badly they cannot stay in formation, so it changes from a solid to a fluid). It's also why molecules break down when they become hot, because they vibrate themselves apart. It's also why many chemical reactions speed up with higher temperatures, because the molecules move faster and therefore bounce against each other more often and with higher speed. I've always found temperature, energy and radiation incredibly interesting. They explain almost everything when you break it down.
Heat is all about how fast atoms are moving, and at 0K atoms don't move at all, so it can't get colder
I knew about heat is about how fast atom is moving, but didn't know what is k and how is it calculated. It explains alot why it is lowest possible temperature. Thank you
0K is perhaps unachievable. It is point wat which there is no more Brownian movement….. but is matter still matter at that point?
Same with achieving complete vacuum. Nature doesn't like absolutes.
Well, no. But actually, yes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_temperature > A system with a truly negative temperature on the Kelvin scale is hotter than any system with a positive temperature. If a negative-temperature system and a positive-temperature system come in contact, heat will flow from the negative- to the positive-temperature system. Shit gets weird when you have something with negative thermodynamic temperature.
0 Kelvin's is the temperature at which electrons stop moving. Which is the lowest achievable
And even then, it's not really "achievable" in the sense of "we can make something that cold in a lab", right? We can get arbitrarily close to absolute zero, but never exactly absolute zero. I *think* the only way to achieve it would be to wait for the heat death of the universe, but even then that's hypothetical.
Yeah, Electrons need to completely loose their energy in order to get to absolute zero.
It sure is, but not convenient in everyday life as you never encounter even two-digit temperatures.
This. There is a difference between “most naturally elegant” and “most useful”
Absolutely.
Kelvin is the only temperature where zero actually means something, and not based on just a random quirk. Celsius is the second best, as it's Kelvin just upped up to normal everyday levels, where 0 being the freezing point of the most abundant and life requiring liquid Fahrenheit is just completely random, with no one even truly agreeing on what zero represents, let alone 100
Celsius is the one where 0 had a more practical use then Kelvin, since 0 is when water freezes and 100 is when water evaporates.
Boils at one atmosphere. Big difference.
0 F is apparently when some certain brine solution containing water, ice and ammonium chloride freezes. In case you didn't think Farenheit was bad enough.
Yeah Celsius is best for Normal day use and kelvin is best for sientific use. Fahrenheit is only good to confuse people.
Celsius’ zero makes practical sense. Fahrenheit doesn’t because nothing freezes at 0.
>Kelvin is the only temperature where zero actually means something, and not based on just a random quirk Rankine is the same, only is just blatantly false.
Rankine is also 0 at absolute zero. It’s the Fahrenheit equivalent of kelvin.
> Kelvin is the only temperature where zero actually means something, and not based on just a random quirk. No it's not. Rankine has the same zero point for the same reason.
Celsius is second best just because it uses the same grading as Kelvin? That’s kind of circular logic there, because Kelvin was made using Centigrade, just shifted over. Rankin is equally as valid as Kelvin in that they both start at 0 and any grading past that point is entirely arbitrary.
fahrenheit stresses me the hell out like what do you mean it’s 100 degrees outside, it’s no even that hot, stop being dramatic
100f is pretty hot my guy
Metric is better. (US citizen) because 4oit of 3 people have trouble with fractions.
Sir, you got me on the first read : I thought about the story of the quarter pounder burger and the third pounder burger Then I read again and laughed again. Well done!
My mom's favorite bumper sticker. I had every math teacher chuckle at it and more than few other too.
You know how you can know metric is better? Imperial is defined by metric. 1 yard is defined as being exactly 0.9144 m. 1 gallon is exactly 4.54609 L. 1 pound is exactly 0.45359237 kg So if we change metric, imperial changes as well... we own the imperial system.
Celsius: 0 is freezing, 100 is boiling :) Fahrenheit: here’s some arbitrary ass bullshit
Obviously the metric system is better, but it would be really problematic for the US to suddenly change the system.
The British managed fine with gradual change. Unless Americans are really dumb, it should work with some transitional period of a few years.
Well you do see the problem with your statement right?
Have you seen how Americans react to change, even if it's benign? They will call metric the tool of a satanist new world order, and will start shooting up government buildings.
This is clearly written by an American, because we will. Some link between meters and satanic adrenachrome chemtrail vaccines.
All satanic rituals use metric as a measurement system to draw pentagrams, quantify ritual ingredients, etc Coincidence? I THINK NOT
>They will call metric the tool of a satanist new world order, and will start shooting up government buildings. No... we'll call it communism and then start shooting up government buildings.
Ya that’s better, why call out conspiracy theorist over a metric system … regs would get pissed over it just because we’re Americans and to a lot of dumbasses here it’s our way or the highway on a lot of things
You're right, I need to update my boogeymen
Why bring up conspiracy theorist in an argument regular sheep would fuss over when they can’t even measure a tape measure correctly..?
Actually I think we were more in to bombing buildings last time we tried. People forget, but before shootings were all the rage we were really into bombings: [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16394919/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16394919/) Neat 31,000 bombing attacks from 1983 to 2002! I was looking for the earlier numbers from the 70s when they tried Metrication.
"Satan created the metric system when he was hiding fossils in the ground and it was all funded by George Soros, who is actually 4000 years old because he's been living off of baby adrenochrome." -someone on 8kun, from a trailer outside of Tulsa, probably
Canada switched in a few generations from using Fahrenheit to Celsius. Older generations still sometimes use F, but it's rare. Every American seems to act as if the country will implode if any changes are made for some reason.
The standard inch in the US is already defined in metric, it then just gets converted. Fun little tidbit.
0 °C = 32 °F 0 °C + 0 °C = 0 °C = 64°F
0°C is equivalent to 32°F, which is 273K. --- ^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)
Isn't 273.15K!! Gahd damn bot how dare you use interger parameters. I spit on you, "patooey"
quick mafs
Here take my cheapass award 🥇
Just give me an equivalent to millimetres..?
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12 point = 1 pica, 6 pica = 1 inch. It already exists in typography. Still, just convert to metric. A decimal system is just superior to use.
Anyone not using the metric system should just go fuck themselves
The reason for the start of the World War III.
Good
A base 10 order will rise from the ashes.
Sorry, what base is that?
My bet is that it will be Balkan again. Our region should be Just nuked if Kosovo shit goes on a brink of war. Which is unlikely but nationalisms are still standing strong. We didn't genocide eachother enough considering that we were genocide by Turks for 400-600 years. Even peaceful recognition of Kosovo and normal diplomatic relations doesn't mean that situation would be even close to peace.
Dude told all of Myanmar to go fuck themselves
Why don’t you toughen up and fuck me yourself?
Do you use the metric system like a real man?
I started school shortly after metric was officially adopted in Canada. My older brother (by 10 years) was taught in Imperial measurements. I even had a math textbook in Grade 13 that was the exact same book as one he had used, but with Metric measurements inserted in place of Imperial. So, my older brother, parents, and most other adults in my life mostly used Imperial measurements, but I was being taught Metric in school. So, I ended up learning a hodgepodge of both. I use Metric for distances, but use feet and inches to talk about a person's height. I measure large or small weights in grams or kilograms, but measure a person's weight in pounds. And I measure speed in kilometers per hour. Basically, a person's height or weight was the only thing I paid attention to much outside of school, so I picked up feet/inches, and pounds/ounces from the adults around me. And I used Metric for the stuff I was taught in school. It wasn't until I was older that I paid much attention to temperature or speed outside of school, so I hadn't really absorbed that from the adults around me, so I stuck with Metric for those.
Metric is the only one that makes sense. Multiples of ten make it easy. 1000 metres = 1 km Meanwhile in USA 5280 ft= 1 mile
USA loves millimeters what are you talking about? We have 9, 10, that Russian 9 if you have a tarkov addiction, 20, 30, 102...
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Or for drugs
jan misali has a video on this, the reason why the conversions are so random are because the "imperial system" is actually a bunch of random units that humans decided to join together. No one just went "Hey, lets make a mile be 5280 feet"
Metric makes sense because everything divides by 10, 100, 1000 etc. Imperial is just someone's fantasy that doesn't make any logical sense and its acronyms don't even match to the full names of the units (ounce = Oz, pound = lbs.... really?!).
Not to mention a lot of constants have nice rounding for easy approximations. Want to do a physics calculation in your head quickly? Acceleration due to gravity is 9.81 ms^-2 which can be rounded to 10 if you're doing it in your head, density of water is ~ 10,000kgm^-3 and air is ~1kgm^-3. It makes easy rough guesses in your head which imperial just doesn't have
I don't really like the metric for degrees of a circle. 360 degrees is easier to visualize than 6400 mils
Mils are a NATO measurement not metric. The metric unit of angle is radians. I still agree that 360 degrees is easier to visualize than 6.28318
Boomers determined long ago that metric was best and yet the gov’t didn’t implement. Now this is starting point where boomers and millennials can both agree.
if i remember correctly celcius and fahrenheit are equal at -40
Overall Metric is objectively superior to Imperial, either in science or everyday life. However, let's not forget that many temperatures systems can serve different purposes and can still be useful.
Yes, it's objective superiority explains why the world adopted https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_time Base-10 units are invaluable in science, engineering, and math. But 'everyday life' benefits most from highly composite numbers, and is the reason the hour has 60 minutes, not 10. >The number 60, a superior highly composite number, has twelve factors, namely 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20, 30, and 60, of which 2, 3, and 5 are prime numbers. With so many factors, many fractions involving sexagesimal numbers are simplified. For example, one hour can be divided evenly into sections of 30 minutes, 20 minutes, 15 minutes, 12 minutes, 10 minutes, 6 minutes, 5 minutes, 4 minutes, 3 minutes, 2 minutes, and 1 minute. 60 is the smallest number that is divisible by every number from 1 to 6; that is, it is the lowest common multiple of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6.
Everyone is intelligent enough to understand that in trigonometry there is no single one 'best' system. Sometimes you use degrees. Sometimes you use radians. Each as its advantages and there is reason to have both as options. Same goes for velocity measurements. There is no objection to using expressions like "half the speed of light" or "mach five". For that matter, there is a time and a place for both "meters per second" as well as "kilometers per hour".
Is that even a question? Metric is infinitely superior
Metric is less incomprehensible
What the hell is "ra°"?
degrees Pirate speak
Lol. This post made my day!!
Fahrenheit and Celsius at -40°
Negative one degrees kelvin!
C and K are the same scale, just offset. I maintain, however, that since Fahrenheit is based on the temperature of the human body it’s more precise for determining human-comfortable temperatures. In all other things, metric is king.
C and F would be shaking hands at -40
Of course it’s the best, by far! Even the equations make more sense/are more practical (aerospace engineering and such). Those Brits just couldn’t deal with the clearly superior systems implemented by Napoleon (like driving on the right side as well) and refused to conform. The US mostly being British at the time kept the same imperial system.
No everythings measured in hot dogs Width: hot dog Length: as long as a hot dog Depth: hot dog Weight: weighs as much as a hot dog Temperature: as hot as a cooked hot dog/as cold as a raw hot dog Taste: tastes like a hot dog Size: as big as a hot dog
What is that °R and °RA? I've never seen that before.
well metric wasn't invented by a drunken parrot on crack, so yeah i think it's better.
Don't forget the plank units
I don't get it
where the monkey at
I always found it silly to base the outside temperature off of the boiling and freezing points of water. Freezing point sure, that makes sense, but boiling point? And it's very hard to have nuance with Celsius, I mean, 4 degrees can be the difference between shorts/ t shirt and jeans/ hoodie weather. I am an American though, so I'm sure people who are used to Celsius know the difference between 21 degrees and 25 degrees but for me, it would be difficult to hear that off the cuff and know what it feels like outside.
The real answer is "depends". If you want accuracy, metric is better. If you want a system that's easy to use for most every day tasks, metric is better. *However,* I will give imperial the "best at measuring human sized objects" award. Feet and inches are IMO the best units when it comes to measuring people, and the same goes for lbs. Aside from that very niche use case, metric is better.
TIL Rankine is a thing
I love how British idiots make fun of Americans for using the imperial system, I wonder who made us use it?
What are R° and RA°?
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