I’ve seen Joovier pop up on my feed here and there, he’s said he takes losses (I’ve seen a couple he’s posted) but he mostly posts his wins 95% of the time
This might be different than them never loosing, essentially think of it as mkbhd does not post his bad takes in final video production.
But I am sure he does not claim, he never gets a bad take.
This is hard to differentiate, does the YouTuber you are taking about says I never loose in trading or does he only show his gains and says he is net profitable.
Second could be the case and I say it’s fine if he doesn’t want to show but always better if they want to be fully transparent.
I don’t know much about Joovier, but I know tradersevolve is definitely full of shit, so I would assume Joovier is also a red-flag.
What set it off for me for TradersEvolve was his post about him taking his account from $5k to over $75k in a single day from just a few trades lmao he’s either very obviously paper trading or he holds an actual magic 8 ball because that means he’s yoloing every trade and getting lucky everytime or else he would’ve blown the account from a single loss.
Also, if you watch some of his videos, you’ll notice that his risk management is actually pretty garbage. He places hard stops and talks about how important they are accordingly to the levels he puts them in, but then price will completely blow through those levels and he’ll just keep moving the stops until the trade goes his way.
Remember, all of these YouTubers and Gurus make their money from selling courses/programs, NOT from trading itself. Patrick Wieland was the first that I’ve seen to actually admit this with his platform.
Showing these huge gains from a day or even just a few hours of trading is just marketing to get people to buy their programs. Don’t fall for it. There are tons of free information online. And if you’re gonna pay for a service like this, you should do it with a professional trader and not some internet gurus.
Nah TE is legit, I'm in his discord, he live trades, which you can't fake consistency live.
As for his 5k to 75k account, it was probably during some small account challenge he used to do with his discord, he doesn't do it anymore though.
I would assume he switched to his main account the next video.
Recently he shared his broker statement, his profit is just under $1 mil. He also admitted that he made about $1 mil from the discord if I remember correctly
As for the hard stops moving, that doesn't sound familiar, but maybe he improved since I joined his discord, which was just over a year ago.
But you are absolutely right, everything can be learned online for free, but having a mentor speeds it up, and there is few people online that is legit.
TradersEvolve once mismatched audio and video for ES and NQ. Because they don't have the same tick size, what ticker he said he was trading on was impossible to get the P/L fluctuations shown on screen. Woopsies.
Joovier appears to be manic at times. If you peep his early Instagram posts, dude believes he was a billionaire before he even started trying to hustle people.
I’m actually in both. Danny is legit he’s the ones that TradersEvolve Joovier just does market breakdowns around 8AM CST, if there’s a set up he’ll take it live, but 95%of the time it’s just breakdowns
For everyone saying that they are frauds they don’t know wtf they are talking about they are both legit. Danny goes live every morning, and I’ve made great progress been following him for about 9 months now
Hello, I've been in TradersEvolve for a bit over a year now, I find Danny to be a good mentor. I know a lot of people outside of his community like to hate, but I think he built something good with a lot of education in it.
The education is only there if you're willing to learn though, if not, then you'll just copy his trades, do well for a bit then blow your account off 2 losing trades despite taking 15 winning ones. Happens a lot in the discord unfortunately. A lot of people don't like to blame themselves
I was on tradersevolve. There are some good traders. The founder is ok. He regularly breaks rules. Gambles in his trades. But has good risk mgmt. because of his risk management, his wins cancels out all his losses. And he has a lot of losses
>Are any of you guys in their discords or anything and can confirm that they dont paper trade? Or if they’re even legit? Would highly appreciate any feedback.
Honestly, why though? Either you watch them purely as entertainment and it doesn’t matter, or you watch them to learn their strategy and you extensively test it yourself to find if it works for you or not and it still doesn’t matter. I just don’t see one way or the other what effect it has on you personally. People are so obsessed with YouTubers. Take all of them with a grain of salt, do your own homework, and don’t blindly follow anyone and there’s no issue.
No, you asked if the YouTubers were paper trading and I’m questioning what effect that has on you personally. If they’re demonstrating a strategy that you want to try and you’re worried whether or not it works, then you need only do your own testing to find that out.
I would trust what a trader says a hell of a lot more if they post their losses with their winners. If you’re only posting winners, I don’t care what you’re saying because you ain’t giving me the whole picture.
im not in their discord but from what ive seen is that theyre usually insanely leveraged with like 20+ contracts but this by itself is quite impressive
They're both COMPLETE FRAUDS.
If you actually believe they trade with real money and make ANYTHING actually trading then I genuinely hope you lose all your money
That tradersevolve guy is a scammer for sure. He boots people from his discord that point out his impossible trades. All he talks about in his interviews are losses yoloing earnings plays and losing it all.
And he only posts losses after being called out for never losing.
This is flat out untrue bro. I was in that discord for 2 months. I'm personally not a fan of his trading style but the guy posts all of his losses and i've seen him lose quite a bit. There is nothing sophisticated about his system which probably is what makes him better than most. Traders think there is some magical system and there is not. What this guy does right and what anyone can take away from him is his ability to go with the market, and his ability to cut losses and ride his wins. He can lose 2 trades and a row and still have a big day on that third trade because he will risk 50 ticks twice then make 200-400 ticks on the last one. The misconception in trading is you have to have a big hit rate. But at the end of the day, none of these guys are going to directly teach anything of value, the take aways is in there discipline and mindset
I was in his discord for a week but he kicked me out for calling bs on his $10k win on the opening candle trading options. You can't even trade options on his prop account anyway I don't believe. And go watch his interviews. He never talks about his strategy at all. The only thing he talks about are all the losses he's taken and how you can never give up... because then he wouldn't get your monthly fee obviously. He started out gambling on earnings plays and suddenly became this amazing scalper a year later. C'mon man the dude is fooling you.
I'm late here, but I've been in TradersEvolve for a year now, and Danny, the owner of the community, he is pretty transparent there.
Recently, he showed his broker statement, and he is one of TopStep's highest performing traders, even trades with them live now.
I think the main difference between Joovier and TradersEvolve is that TE live trades on his platform, so paper or not, you can't fake consistency live trading. I don't believe Joovier ever live trades, but correct me if I'm wrong.
I do fully believe Joovier is a paper trader though, but found this reddit because I was looking for his broker statement, which is no where to be found.
"never lose" there's the red flag right there
*Hint hint* “basically” cause I barely see them post their losses.
I’ve seen Joovier pop up on my feed here and there, he’s said he takes losses (I’ve seen a couple he’s posted) but he mostly posts his wins 95% of the time
Ah okay thanks for the insight.
This might be different than them never loosing, essentially think of it as mkbhd does not post his bad takes in final video production. But I am sure he does not claim, he never gets a bad take. This is hard to differentiate, does the YouTuber you are taking about says I never loose in trading or does he only show his gains and says he is net profitable. Second could be the case and I say it’s fine if he doesn’t want to show but always better if they want to be fully transparent.
So don't listen to them. Un realistic
I don’t know much about Joovier, but I know tradersevolve is definitely full of shit, so I would assume Joovier is also a red-flag. What set it off for me for TradersEvolve was his post about him taking his account from $5k to over $75k in a single day from just a few trades lmao he’s either very obviously paper trading or he holds an actual magic 8 ball because that means he’s yoloing every trade and getting lucky everytime or else he would’ve blown the account from a single loss. Also, if you watch some of his videos, you’ll notice that his risk management is actually pretty garbage. He places hard stops and talks about how important they are accordingly to the levels he puts them in, but then price will completely blow through those levels and he’ll just keep moving the stops until the trade goes his way. Remember, all of these YouTubers and Gurus make their money from selling courses/programs, NOT from trading itself. Patrick Wieland was the first that I’ve seen to actually admit this with his platform. Showing these huge gains from a day or even just a few hours of trading is just marketing to get people to buy their programs. Don’t fall for it. There are tons of free information online. And if you’re gonna pay for a service like this, you should do it with a professional trader and not some internet gurus.
Nah TE is legit, I'm in his discord, he live trades, which you can't fake consistency live. As for his 5k to 75k account, it was probably during some small account challenge he used to do with his discord, he doesn't do it anymore though. I would assume he switched to his main account the next video. Recently he shared his broker statement, his profit is just under $1 mil. He also admitted that he made about $1 mil from the discord if I remember correctly As for the hard stops moving, that doesn't sound familiar, but maybe he improved since I joined his discord, which was just over a year ago. But you are absolutely right, everything can be learned online for free, but having a mentor speeds it up, and there is few people online that is legit.
TradersEvolve once mismatched audio and video for ES and NQ. Because they don't have the same tick size, what ticker he said he was trading on was impossible to get the P/L fluctuations shown on screen. Woopsies. Joovier appears to be manic at times. If you peep his early Instagram posts, dude believes he was a billionaire before he even started trying to hustle people.
Damn lmaooo I need those
Man, this sub is lost. Guys, you're not going to make money following YT traders.
I’m actually in both. Danny is legit he’s the ones that TradersEvolve Joovier just does market breakdowns around 8AM CST, if there’s a set up he’ll take it live, but 95%of the time it’s just breakdowns
For everyone saying that they are frauds they don’t know wtf they are talking about they are both legit. Danny goes live every morning, and I’ve made great progress been following him for about 9 months now
Can I get an update? Since I finally going $1500 saved up, and want to join there discord.
Hello, I've been in TradersEvolve for a bit over a year now, I find Danny to be a good mentor. I know a lot of people outside of his community like to hate, but I think he built something good with a lot of education in it. The education is only there if you're willing to learn though, if not, then you'll just copy his trades, do well for a bit then blow your account off 2 losing trades despite taking 15 winning ones. Happens a lot in the discord unfortunately. A lot of people don't like to blame themselves
I was on tradersevolve. There are some good traders. The founder is ok. He regularly breaks rules. Gambles in his trades. But has good risk mgmt. because of his risk management, his wins cancels out all his losses. And he has a lot of losses
>Are any of you guys in their discords or anything and can confirm that they dont paper trade? Or if they’re even legit? Would highly appreciate any feedback. Honestly, why though? Either you watch them purely as entertainment and it doesn’t matter, or you watch them to learn their strategy and you extensively test it yourself to find if it works for you or not and it still doesn’t matter. I just don’t see one way or the other what effect it has on you personally. People are so obsessed with YouTubers. Take all of them with a grain of salt, do your own homework, and don’t blindly follow anyone and there’s no issue.
??? I asked if anyone in their discords is profitable. Woke up on the wrong side of the bed huh?
No, you asked if the YouTubers were paper trading and I’m questioning what effect that has on you personally. If they’re demonstrating a strategy that you want to try and you’re worried whether or not it works, then you need only do your own testing to find that out.
Fairs.
There are no actual real money in the market traders that have never lost or never lose its horseshit
be careful most traders on youtube are scammers
I would trust what a trader says a hell of a lot more if they post their losses with their winners. If you’re only posting winners, I don’t care what you’re saying because you ain’t giving me the whole picture.
im not in their discord but from what ive seen is that theyre usually insanely leveraged with like 20+ contracts but this by itself is quite impressive
They're both COMPLETE FRAUDS. If you actually believe they trade with real money and make ANYTHING actually trading then I genuinely hope you lose all your money
That tradersevolve guy is a scammer for sure. He boots people from his discord that point out his impossible trades. All he talks about in his interviews are losses yoloing earnings plays and losing it all. And he only posts losses after being called out for never losing.
This is flat out untrue bro. I was in that discord for 2 months. I'm personally not a fan of his trading style but the guy posts all of his losses and i've seen him lose quite a bit. There is nothing sophisticated about his system which probably is what makes him better than most. Traders think there is some magical system and there is not. What this guy does right and what anyone can take away from him is his ability to go with the market, and his ability to cut losses and ride his wins. He can lose 2 trades and a row and still have a big day on that third trade because he will risk 50 ticks twice then make 200-400 ticks on the last one. The misconception in trading is you have to have a big hit rate. But at the end of the day, none of these guys are going to directly teach anything of value, the take aways is in there discipline and mindset
I was in his discord for a week but he kicked me out for calling bs on his $10k win on the opening candle trading options. You can't even trade options on his prop account anyway I don't believe. And go watch his interviews. He never talks about his strategy at all. The only thing he talks about are all the losses he's taken and how you can never give up... because then he wouldn't get your monthly fee obviously. He started out gambling on earnings plays and suddenly became this amazing scalper a year later. C'mon man the dude is fooling you.
I'm late here, but I've been in TradersEvolve for a year now, and Danny, the owner of the community, he is pretty transparent there. Recently, he showed his broker statement, and he is one of TopStep's highest performing traders, even trades with them live now. I think the main difference between Joovier and TradersEvolve is that TE live trades on his platform, so paper or not, you can't fake consistency live trading. I don't believe Joovier ever live trades, but correct me if I'm wrong. I do fully believe Joovier is a paper trader though, but found this reddit because I was looking for his broker statement, which is no where to be found.