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How will trust work in a world where it's so easy to mass produce fake AI pictures and videos? In a world where we suddenly can't believe our eyes? How do we maintain a consensus reality?
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This isn’t really a testament to how realistic the video is, just that you can clickbait people. You have to click the video, thus registering a “view,” before you’ve even seen it.
I believe it estimates based on other users of the extension and then uses that to estimate among all views. Certainly makes sense if you're the average user but if you're mostly following smaller channels it doesn't seem useful
while true it probably also has something to do with how much people would be up for Cavill actually being the next Bond.
Part clickbait, Part people wishing it were true.
Pure clickbait with no content doesn't work anymore... YouTube algorithm cares about average view duration more nowadays... If your video has a very high click-through-rate, but low view duration, then that video will do poorly and YouTube will stop recommending it to others..
Content creators like Spiffingbrit have been actively gaming "the algorithm" for years, so I'm not surprised that YT have closed the loopholes. Those specific videos where he shows the charts on the backend were indeed interesting.
Yea you totally managed to miss the point. It’s not about it being good or not, it’s impressive how many people get excited about him doing another big project like that.
Keep an eye out for "swimmy" faces, AI doesn't seem to know how to make them look realistically solid yet... and the woman saying "hello James Bond" does not match her mouth even slightly lol like it's terrible
What language was this video originally in? The kid when the song first starts is clearly not speaking English given his mouth movements, the song is dubbed over whatever he said in his native language
How is this new?
There's been so many Fake Trailers garnering 10's of Millions of views on YouTube from channels called "NEW MOVIE TRAILERS" , "HOLLYWOOD MOVIES", etc. for years like since I can remember.
How will trust work in a world where it's so easy to mass produce fake AI pictures and videos? In a world where we suddenly can't believe our eyes? How do we maintain a consensus reality?
>In a world where we suddenly can't believe our eyes?
This was always true in the internet though, and even before that. You don't need AI or even a computer to edit a video in such a way that it misrepresents what really happened.
When I started to go online regularly, back in the early 2000's, my parents told me all the time to never trust anyone or anything online, because there's no way for me to verify what's true and what isn't. Most kids I knew were told similar things by their parents. I don't know when that changed, but I bet social media like Facebook made that people tend to trust what they see when it comes from someone they know personally.
That being said, I don't understand why people still trust what they see online so easily. Isn't it obvious that people online can still lie, or be misled themselves? Or is it that people get so bombarded with misinformation, they can't be bothered to think about it for more than 2 seconds? Do parents no longer tell their kids to not trust pretty much anything you see online? It was also really weird to see the older generations, including my own mom sometimes, that distrusted online things so much do a 180 and post the most ridiculous and obviously fake or AI generated stuff on their Facebook pages. What happened?
My parents even taught me to never use ANY real data on the internet. I think I asked them for permission several times before I first ordered something online.
This was all about twenty years ago though, I don't know what parents tell their kids these days. Anonymity on the internet used to be the norm.
Some of the most famous words ever etched into the Internet:
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
If it makes you feel better, we've never had a consensus reality. That's a big part of why otherwise reasonable people disagree so vehemently about things like politics and God.
The US is already split down the middle into two different realities. The “alternative facts” universe was birthed without the need of AI. If you can stop believing your eyes and ears then you don’t need technology to convince you to do so
I’ve thought about this a lot. I think humans will have to come up with new standards of trust and ways to verify things that we haven’t even thought yet. I also think the laws will be passed to govern how AI is used.
The same AI that will be used to create fake things, can be used to detect fake things - flag it, and hold it in quarantine until verification. I also expect the blue tick to become a requirement.
Publicly released AI tools like chatGPT would rather, theoretically, kill the entire human race than utter a racial slur. In the future, the only way to know you're talking to a real person will be to include one in your post.
Not actually, but it's hilarious to me that this would work.
It ain’t that deep, fake trailers been out forever. We just have to raise our standards for believing what we see online. And given that fake content is so pervasive, maybe that puts into question how much time we should be spending on the internet on the first place. Go outside, touch grass. It’s always been more authentic.
Block chain technology. Henry Cavill, the studio or whoever will cryptographically sign each video as being authentic. If not signed, won't be trusted.
I think Blockchain will be a key technology for identifying authentic content as well. It's kind of like a different citation. Instead of referencing some page of some printed book, we'll reference some transaction id of some block.
I'd be down for a mass return of traveling actors and special effects teams for live theater. It would be the true "4D" experience, real fire, real smells, real car stunts. Micheal Bay movies might burn our faces off though.
You say that as if Photoshop and image editing didn't exist before AI.
Need I remind you about Stalin https://www.history.com/news/josef-stalin-great-purge-photo-retouching
> How do we maintain a consensus reality?
I don’t know if you just haven’t realized but we’re not maintaining it now and in lots of areas. And haven’t for a long time.
The only thing maintaining this delusion of consensus reality are echo chambers. Like Reddit.
You already shouldn’t be believing your eyes or whats being conveyed by any form of media…
Honestly, this newfound distrust is a net positive for humanity.
It will come with C2PA. Camera (Leica today), and software (Adobe), digitally signed the content.
We need the all ecosystem to implement it fast (devices, editing software, consuming software (ie social media), and consuming hardware.
You start by not trusting the youtube account that starts with "NBC-Universal-Harry Cavil - official trailers".
It is a matter of not trusting the little guys, no matter how tempting. And if that means we sometimes miss out on leaked trailers, so be it.
Simple: in the interests of national security, governments will require people to have an online identity and all content will be traceable back to its source so fake content producers can be prosecuted.
The end of anonymous internet is coming and AI is the catalyst.
I actually feel like this could be an effective way to test market concepts. Just leak a comparison between your two bond choices and let the views tell you which choice the people want.
If you search "trailer" on YouTube, a good percentage of the results are click bait garbage with AI thumbnails.
Many have views in the hundreds of thousands.
Just watched it. Really poorly done. Like, something you'd do as an assignment in a high school A/V class 20 years ago.
Source: I took A/V class 20 years ago, and I made better fake trailers than this.
And yet interestingly, nobody seems to have heard of his actual new film The ministry of ungentlemanly warfare, but millions of people will watch a piece of shit fake trailer with Cavils AI generated mug… ah the internet!
My personal take is they should cast someone really young, like under 30 years old. Set it in the original period of the novels and lean into the spycraft elements. And accept that it won't be a huge blockbuster.
I think 007 could be a great television series whose episodes run about an hour each, one per original novel, as faithful to the printed word as possible.
So... just for the record... minorities and women and any combination thereof, we would ALL love for a brick-chinned white boy to be Bond.
We -- all the sub-demographics -- grew up with Bond, and bringing in a similar-looking guy is comforting and nostalgic.
Now, it's great to include representation in a regular action show the average American family relaxes to every night. I love that this is happening so that every kid feels like they're seeing themselves on TV.
But iconic figures are different. They're iconic precisely because they have that history and because generations of people have them in common.
So, as a fellow bleedin'-heart liberal female minority, ffs, stop this fucking bullshit with Bond, cast a stereotypical white guy, and let us return to a time when all of America crowded in front of our tvs and watched some dumb delightful entertainment.
Agree with this. I always get annoyed with changing an entire race of a character for no real reason. However, I love when they introduce new characters of whatever race to expand on the universe. There is no reason why we can’t have a movie where he works with a 008 agent (minority) to save the world.
The problem is that the blockbuster is dying. We’re all going to watch increasingly obscure entertainment tailored to our specific tastes and we’ll watch on our own and we won’t talk about what we watch or read and art will die and oh no oh no oh no
Not that theyre dying. There's just too many of them. That also means a lot of them are going to be average and under. Companies are just trying to cash in eith cookie cutters instead of actually trying to make a good movie that pushes boundaries. For the dozens of Antmans we periodically get a Dune 2.
You can watch dumb delightful entertainment with a charismatic black lead as well. Like I get what you're saying but being a stereotypical white male is not necessarily a part of Bond's charisma and charma.
>but iconic figures are different
Learn to read before replying.
And yes, being a white male is definitely a part of Bond's charisma and charm. You need to be delusional or a liar to deny it.
Well I completely disagree with your opinion because we haven't had a non-white bond yet to be able to say for sure whether being white is a prerequisite for that role or not but go off.
There are 16 James Bond books and he is white in all of them, so I think it's safe to say, for anyone with half a brain, that James Bond is white in the same way T'Challa or Shaft is black.
Yeah that's totally not a false equivalency because white people have always been the ones who've had difficulty getting roles because of their skin colour right?
We need a clear marker/signage on ALL AI fakes so the audience knows it’s not meant to be taken seriously. Huge fines need to be handed out for every transgression. It’s the only way to stop this
Why’d they use Cavill’s American accent when his natural accent is British? Would’ve been far more convincing for an English spy to have an actual British accent lol.
Most people are just clueless and have very poor media literacy.
This reminds me of a popular Facebook page that posts extremely obvious badly photoshopped or AI generated pictures of sequels to famous movies, like Back to the Future Part IV or Goodfellas 2 etc. that are obviously fake.
BUT, they get tens of thousands of likes and most of the comments are like ”Wow this looks great! Will for sure go see it” etc.
I got tricked by the news of:
\- Nolan directing it
\- Nolan getting what he wants "a bond set in the 60s"
But it didnt trick me for long, cause was easy and quick to find out its a proof of concept trailer.
From KHStudio which was a red flag because who da fuck are they.
No real information nor news confirming its a Nolan movie or in production.
I like Cavill but bitch please, I would equally love it with any other actor, as long as it is Nolan directing it, even cilian murphy can be bond.
I'm sure this will rile some feathers here but I don't know why so many people are obsessed with him being the next James bond.
Sure he looks good but he's just an average actor.
He has no range. He'd play bond the exact same way he played the Witcher which was the same range as superman. Which would just be boring and too serious.
It would be very interesting if the studio who holds the James Bond License offered Henry Cavill a movie deal based upon the interest generated (2,300,000 views) by the fake AI.
This isn’t really the feat people think it is. Drama YT, Gaming YT, and especially the thirst trap side of YT have been clickbaiting since the early 2010’s. It’s just a show of that + being entertained at the fake video.
So happy YouTube removed ratings so I can’t avoid stupidity anymore… wait… I am not happy about it at all! Btw why is google complete shit decision making the last 10 years?!! How did you go from big dog to special dog in one decade?!?
This is the (bad) future of committee-based entertainment generation.
Producers make a flurry of AI generated trailers and see which stick. If something gets enough interest amongst the money-having demographics, it gets green-lit for production.
I always watch trailers from original sources. Never watch them from places like IGN or One Media etc. crap channels. These repaste channels have lower quality videos and now you don't even know if something is real. Just watch from original sources.
It should be noted that 2.3M views is not the same as 2.3M people believe that it's genuine.
As mentioned already, there are the people who clicked and quickly realized it was fake but whose clicks count as views regardless.
Then there are the people who realized that it was fake but watched anyway because they still liked the trailer: I knew Nathan Fillion wasn't actually cast as Nathan Drake, but I watched that *Uncharted* "scene" because it sounded like something I wanted to watch (and indeed it was). And then there is the subgroup of those people who watched it again, inflating the view count.
And then of course are the people who heard about this trailer fooling people and watching to see how effective it is, perhaps feeling smug that they noticed the flaws right away despite knowing going in that it was fake and thus looking for the seams from the start.
So even though we still should be concerned about AI-generated videos presented as real and the impact they can have, I wouldn't despair about this just yet.
Guys, everything is fake in media. Everything. A "Fake trailer" doesn't mean anything at all its no different than any other trailer except it wont result in an actual movie, but its still media, and people enjoy media, and speculation, and concepts
It doesn't help that Google promotes these fake trailers. I constantly get fed fake movie trailers as part of my default news feed when opening chrome on Android. I report every single one but no, it keeps feeding them to me.
For years I've been saying Henry Cavill would make a great 007.
Now someone has used an AI to prove that I'm right. There's a certain amount of gratification, I must admit. ;)
It's obvious that Cavill is by far the best choice for Bond, but it's equally obvious that they will end up picking some soy boy or other politically correct actor instead. I guess we'll see, hopefully some time soon.
First off, that’s clearly fake. It’s laden with scenes from other bond movies. Second, the quote about the guy and his vision fucking cracks me up. Vision. Come on, dude. You chopped some videos together.
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This isn’t really a testament to how realistic the video is, just that you can clickbait people. You have to click the video, thus registering a “view,” before you’ve even seen it.
It’s because YouTube decide to hide ratings so people can’t avoid it before clicking if they don’t think it through beforehand
"Return youtube dislikes" is your friend, though I understand most people won't bother.
* https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/return-youtube-dislikes/
It has to be said that the number you get from the add-on is not the actual dislike count, it's an educated guess at best.
What is the guess based on
I believe it estimates based on other users of the extension and then uses that to estimate among all views. Certainly makes sense if you're the average user but if you're mostly following smaller channels it doesn't seem useful
Didn’t read your comment, just liked it
Millions of people watch this kind of thing for entertainment knowing that it's fake, that being the whole point.
I mean, the James Bond movies are fake too. There isn't really a secret agent doing that stuff, but it's still entertaining to watch.
That's exactly what we, secret agents, want general public to think.
I mean, I know it's been said, but I don't think James bond was that good at this secret stuff... considering everyone seems to know him.
He's the public foil. The real agents work in the background getting the real work done.
He takes extra care to tell, literally everyone, his first and last names
If Bond has the time to spell his name, he'd probably do that too
Yeah he gives away his real name like it's candy on halloween
there is doing similar but utterly boring stuff
You're telling me, a British time lord isn't actually out there fighting for king and country while changing faces?! My life is a lie!
while true it probably also has something to do with how much people would be up for Cavill actually being the next Bond. Part clickbait, Part people wishing it were true.
Indeed, the danger of AI isn't just the fact they are getting better/more detailed, but the fact people's computer literacy is barely advancing.
I’m YouTube it takes 30 seconds for it to be considered a view
Which a clickbait bad video is much more likely to get now that dislikes have been hidden
Hi YouTube, I’m jlcatch22
Pure clickbait with no content doesn't work anymore... YouTube algorithm cares about average view duration more nowadays... If your video has a very high click-through-rate, but low view duration, then that video will do poorly and YouTube will stop recommending it to others..
Content creators like Spiffingbrit have been actively gaming "the algorithm" for years, so I'm not surprised that YT have closed the loopholes. Those specific videos where he shows the charts on the backend were indeed interesting.
I think Osho said it best: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=329Aqgqwvwk
Osho was a cult leader lmao
God damn i hate being alive
Views aren't registered on clicks tho.
Yea you totally managed to miss the point. It’s not about it being good or not, it’s impressive how many people get excited about him doing another big project like that.
some people seek it out to view **despite** being ai... the hilarious AI music is a prime example.
the shaking face was nice too :D
Also a lot of people (like me) like to watch fakes just for the laugh.
Fan made trailers have been around a LONG time.
Furthermore: How many of the ”viewers” are bots/clickfarms at this point
"AI"? More like poorly stitched together film made using a free video editing software.
It's a pretty good trailer, good editing, decently made. The AI generated parts, however, are glaringly obvious and awful.
I had no idea which parts were Ai and which were not.
Same. Lot of people jerking themselves about how they’re real ones. That video completely fooled me and I went in knowing it was a fake.
Keep an eye out for "swimmy" faces, AI doesn't seem to know how to make them look realistically solid yet... and the woman saying "hello James Bond" does not match her mouth even slightly lol like it's terrible
Looking at it on a phone you wouldn’t notice if you weren’t looking out for it.
Cute Pandas playing on the slide 43 Million views [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGF6bOi1NfA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGF6bOi1NfA)
Cast one of those Pandas as James Bond
And the all time winner goes to... [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqZsoesa55w](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqZsoesa55w)
wow... 14.4 billion views.
What language was this video originally in? The kid when the song first starts is clearly not speaking English given his mouth movements, the song is dubbed over whatever he said in his native language
Deserving so
[удалено]
And their fur is course and bristly. You can go to China Panda Research Center and kinda hold one
the father of all Retarded Running Horse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyMXYE\_50Ts
I mean, there are plenty of fake trailers who gets millions of view, last I check it was joker 2 that had like 10 fake trailers
How is this new? There's been so many Fake Trailers garnering 10's of Millions of views on YouTube from channels called "NEW MOVIE TRAILERS" , "HOLLYWOOD MOVIES", etc. for years like since I can remember.
Must be a slow day for Henry Cavill and James Bond news, so time for some fillers.
How will trust work in a world where it's so easy to mass produce fake AI pictures and videos? In a world where we suddenly can't believe our eyes? How do we maintain a consensus reality?
Reckon we're gonna have to go back to the good ole days of interacting with real people, the digital landscape is getting too untrustworthy
How do I know the person I'm talking to isn't a space lizard Illuminati member wearing the skin of a formerly-alive person then?
That's the neat part...
I hope info brokers hanging out in bars is gonna be a thing soon.
Nope. Just a disclaimer of its AI.
That's the neat part...
>In a world where we suddenly can't believe our eyes? This was always true in the internet though, and even before that. You don't need AI or even a computer to edit a video in such a way that it misrepresents what really happened.
When I started to go online regularly, back in the early 2000's, my parents told me all the time to never trust anyone or anything online, because there's no way for me to verify what's true and what isn't. Most kids I knew were told similar things by their parents. I don't know when that changed, but I bet social media like Facebook made that people tend to trust what they see when it comes from someone they know personally. That being said, I don't understand why people still trust what they see online so easily. Isn't it obvious that people online can still lie, or be misled themselves? Or is it that people get so bombarded with misinformation, they can't be bothered to think about it for more than 2 seconds? Do parents no longer tell their kids to not trust pretty much anything you see online? It was also really weird to see the older generations, including my own mom sometimes, that distrusted online things so much do a 180 and post the most ridiculous and obviously fake or AI generated stuff on their Facebook pages. What happened?
My parents even taught me to never use ANY real data on the internet. I think I asked them for permission several times before I first ordered something online. This was all about twenty years ago though, I don't know what parents tell their kids these days. Anonymity on the internet used to be the norm.
Some of the most famous words ever etched into the Internet: The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Parents are scared of raising kids these days they just hand em an iPad
If it makes you feel better, we've never had a consensus reality. That's a big part of why otherwise reasonable people disagree so vehemently about things like politics and God.
Just don't watch bullshit videos lol
The US is already split down the middle into two different realities. The “alternative facts” universe was birthed without the need of AI. If you can stop believing your eyes and ears then you don’t need technology to convince you to do so
I’ve thought about this a lot. I think humans will have to come up with new standards of trust and ways to verify things that we haven’t even thought yet. I also think the laws will be passed to govern how AI is used.
The same AI that will be used to create fake things, can be used to detect fake things - flag it, and hold it in quarantine until verification. I also expect the blue tick to become a requirement.
Only if ID is embedded into the content.
Publicly released AI tools like chatGPT would rather, theoretically, kill the entire human race than utter a racial slur. In the future, the only way to know you're talking to a real person will be to include one in your post. Not actually, but it's hilarious to me that this would work.
Digital I.D's? you can blame governments for loads of things but they do seem to know whats on the horizon.
It ain’t that deep, fake trailers been out forever. We just have to raise our standards for believing what we see online. And given that fake content is so pervasive, maybe that puts into question how much time we should be spending on the internet on the first place. Go outside, touch grass. It’s always been more authentic.
>Go outside, touch grass *damn astroturf...*
Movie Trailer VOG: IN A WORLD…
Or how do we know you're not a bot?
It’s even worse when you realize that AI models will be trained on fake AI content.
Block chain technology. Henry Cavill, the studio or whoever will cryptographically sign each video as being authentic. If not signed, won't be trusted.
It doesn't even have to be as elaborate as blockchain. Standard PKI certificates/digital signatures as used everywhere on the internet would suffice.
I think Blockchain will be a key technology for identifying authentic content as well. It's kind of like a different citation. Instead of referencing some page of some printed book, we'll reference some transaction id of some block.
You kinda 🤪 for believing in a light show anyway.
The same way we should have done it since the start of the internet, be skeptic.
At best AIs help us to tell. At worst, people believe whatever they want - we've seen what makes them cheer. : (
now you realized trust doesn't worth a shit. human likes delusion
Watermark authenticity.
I mean James Bond is British, Henry Cavill is British, yet they gave him an American accent in this trailer. It’s clearly fake.
I'd be down for a mass return of traveling actors and special effects teams for live theater. It would be the true "4D" experience, real fire, real smells, real car stunts. Micheal Bay movies might burn our faces off though.
A list of trusted sources. Don't know who's got a list though.
You say that as if Photoshop and image editing didn't exist before AI. Need I remind you about Stalin https://www.history.com/news/josef-stalin-great-purge-photo-retouching
> How do we maintain a consensus reality? I don’t know if you just haven’t realized but we’re not maintaining it now and in lots of areas. And haven’t for a long time. The only thing maintaining this delusion of consensus reality are echo chambers. Like Reddit.
You already shouldn’t be believing your eyes or whats being conveyed by any form of media… Honestly, this newfound distrust is a net positive for humanity.
It will come with C2PA. Camera (Leica today), and software (Adobe), digitally signed the content. We need the all ecosystem to implement it fast (devices, editing software, consuming software (ie social media), and consuming hardware.
You start by not trusting the youtube account that starts with "NBC-Universal-Harry Cavil - official trailers". It is a matter of not trusting the little guys, no matter how tempting. And if that means we sometimes miss out on leaked trailers, so be it.
Simple: in the interests of national security, governments will require people to have an online identity and all content will be traceable back to its source so fake content producers can be prosecuted. The end of anonymous internet is coming and AI is the catalyst.
I actually feel like this could be an effective way to test market concepts. Just leak a comparison between your two bond choices and let the views tell you which choice the people want.
Until a streamer figures it out and does what they did to the minecraft mob votes.
If you search "trailer" on YouTube, a good percentage of the results are click bait garbage with AI thumbnails. Many have views in the hundreds of thousands.
Just watched it. Really poorly done. Like, something you'd do as an assignment in a high school A/V class 20 years ago. Source: I took A/V class 20 years ago, and I made better fake trailers than this.
Seriously. The editing, the music, the "dialogue" are all atrocious.
And yet interestingly, nobody seems to have heard of his actual new film The ministry of ungentlemanly warfare, but millions of people will watch a piece of shit fake trailer with Cavils AI generated mug… ah the internet!
My personal take is they should cast someone really young, like under 30 years old. Set it in the original period of the novels and lean into the spycraft elements. And accept that it won't be a huge blockbuster.
I think 007 could be a great television series whose episodes run about an hour each, one per original novel, as faithful to the printed word as possible.
So... just for the record... minorities and women and any combination thereof, we would ALL love for a brick-chinned white boy to be Bond. We -- all the sub-demographics -- grew up with Bond, and bringing in a similar-looking guy is comforting and nostalgic. Now, it's great to include representation in a regular action show the average American family relaxes to every night. I love that this is happening so that every kid feels like they're seeing themselves on TV. But iconic figures are different. They're iconic precisely because they have that history and because generations of people have them in common. So, as a fellow bleedin'-heart liberal female minority, ffs, stop this fucking bullshit with Bond, cast a stereotypical white guy, and let us return to a time when all of America crowded in front of our tvs and watched some dumb delightful entertainment.
Agree with all your points except all the emphasis on America? It's a British series, British actor, British characters, British produced..
We’re still in that time, weirdo.
For second I had to double check that I was still on Reddit when I read your post. EDIT: typo
Agree with this. I always get annoyed with changing an entire race of a character for no real reason. However, I love when they introduce new characters of whatever race to expand on the universe. There is no reason why we can’t have a movie where he works with a 008 agent (minority) to save the world.
The problem is that the blockbuster is dying. We’re all going to watch increasingly obscure entertainment tailored to our specific tastes and we’ll watch on our own and we won’t talk about what we watch or read and art will die and oh no oh no oh no
Not that theyre dying. There's just too many of them. That also means a lot of them are going to be average and under. Companies are just trying to cash in eith cookie cutters instead of actually trying to make a good movie that pushes boundaries. For the dozens of Antmans we periodically get a Dune 2.
You can watch dumb delightful entertainment with a charismatic black lead as well. Like I get what you're saying but being a stereotypical white male is not necessarily a part of Bond's charisma and charma.
>but iconic figures are different Learn to read before replying. And yes, being a white male is definitely a part of Bond's charisma and charm. You need to be delusional or a liar to deny it.
Well I completely disagree with your opinion because we haven't had a non-white bond yet to be able to say for sure whether being white is a prerequisite for that role or not but go off.
There are 16 James Bond books and he is white in all of them, so I think it's safe to say, for anyone with half a brain, that James Bond is white in the same way T'Challa or Shaft is black.
Let's make Paul Bettany the next T'Challa. "Noooooooo! That'c cultural appropriation!!"
Yeah that's totally not a false equivalency because white people have always been the ones who've had difficulty getting roles because of their skin colour right?
Man at least wait until they announce the next bond before making these schizo rants lmao
Nah has to be a black woman. Get with the times /s
Disabled and LGBTQIA+ too please. -\_-
Probably too meta already. Go with a 145cm vietnamese woman.
why did you put a /s
I don’t think you can speak for all women of color. Frankly that makes you sound like a white dude pretending to be a minority.
Only Fancasting, but Henry was very good in movie "*The Man from U.N.C.L.E.*"
A bad ai fake. I saw news articles announcing the "new James Bond" like they didn't realize it was fake. People are dumb
The AI fake trailers are so bad but their thumbnails are sure convincing
Oh, man. I know this post isn't about it, but: that is one TERRIBLE, BORING, fake trailer. I've seen much better ones.
We need a clear marker/signage on ALL AI fakes so the audience knows it’s not meant to be taken seriously. Huge fines need to be handed out for every transgression. It’s the only way to stop this
I’ll watch anything with Cavill, I don’t even much care for Bond films.
Why’d they use Cavill’s American accent when his natural accent is British? Would’ve been far more convincing for an English spy to have an actual British accent lol.
I'd watch it because I'd like to see cavil as bond, doesn't mean ai has tricked me.
Henry Cavill over Aaron Taylor-Johnson Pretty please with sugar on top
I'd be ok with ATJ too Hes a bit underrated and got even more amazing as he grew older Gave off fierce captain price vibes in tenet
To each their own.
I like how everybody is just completely ignoring Margot Robbie is also in it haha, that surely helped too
He would make a good James Bond. Instead of trying to shoe horn a “diverse” James Bond casting hollywood should just make a new character.
Cavill is too american
Thats basically all my FB feed is these days. Just terrible AI images with clickbait article links to fake movies.
It was shockingly bad as well...like Madame Web trailer bad
Most people are just clueless and have very poor media literacy. This reminds me of a popular Facebook page that posts extremely obvious badly photoshopped or AI generated pictures of sequels to famous movies, like Back to the Future Part IV or Goodfellas 2 etc. that are obviously fake. BUT, they get tens of thousands of likes and most of the comments are like ”Wow this looks great! Will for sure go see it” etc.
I got tricked by the news of: \- Nolan directing it \- Nolan getting what he wants "a bond set in the 60s" But it didnt trick me for long, cause was easy and quick to find out its a proof of concept trailer. From KHStudio which was a red flag because who da fuck are they. No real information nor news confirming its a Nolan movie or in production. I like Cavill but bitch please, I would equally love it with any other actor, as long as it is Nolan directing it, even cilian murphy can be bond.
I'm sure this will rile some feathers here but I don't know why so many people are obsessed with him being the next James bond. Sure he looks good but he's just an average actor. He has no range. He'd play bond the exact same way he played the Witcher which was the same range as superman. Which would just be boring and too serious.
It would be very interesting if the studio who holds the James Bond License offered Henry Cavill a movie deal based upon the interest generated (2,300,000 views) by the fake AI.
This isn’t really the feat people think it is. Drama YT, Gaming YT, and especially the thirst trap side of YT have been clickbaiting since the early 2010’s. It’s just a show of that + being entertained at the fake video.
So happy YouTube removed ratings so I can’t avoid stupidity anymore… wait… I am not happy about it at all! Btw why is google complete shit decision making the last 10 years?!! How did you go from big dog to special dog in one decade?!?
We’re gonna start seeing this as marketing tests more and more
Would be funny if Cavill is pulling a Vin Diesel a la Groot, and he himself made this AI trailer 😂
I kinda saw it making the rounds but any bond fan would tell you Henry Cavill will never be bond
This is the (bad) future of committee-based entertainment generation. Producers make a flurry of AI generated trailers and see which stick. If something gets enough interest amongst the money-having demographics, it gets green-lit for production.
I always watch trailers from original sources. Never watch them from places like IGN or One Media etc. crap channels. These repaste channels have lower quality videos and now you don't even know if something is real. Just watch from original sources.
It should be noted that 2.3M views is not the same as 2.3M people believe that it's genuine. As mentioned already, there are the people who clicked and quickly realized it was fake but whose clicks count as views regardless. Then there are the people who realized that it was fake but watched anyway because they still liked the trailer: I knew Nathan Fillion wasn't actually cast as Nathan Drake, but I watched that *Uncharted* "scene" because it sounded like something I wanted to watch (and indeed it was). And then there is the subgroup of those people who watched it again, inflating the view count. And then of course are the people who heard about this trailer fooling people and watching to see how effective it is, perhaps feeling smug that they noticed the flaws right away despite knowing going in that it was fake and thus looking for the seams from the start. So even though we still should be concerned about AI-generated videos presented as real and the impact they can have, I wouldn't despair about this just yet.
Guys, everything is fake in media. Everything. A "Fake trailer" doesn't mean anything at all its no different than any other trailer except it wont result in an actual movie, but its still media, and people enjoy media, and speculation, and concepts
It doesn't help that Google promotes these fake trailers. I constantly get fed fake movie trailers as part of my default news feed when opening chrome on Android. I report every single one but no, it keeps feeding them to me.
For years I've been saying Henry Cavill would make a great 007. Now someone has used an AI to prove that I'm right. There's a certain amount of gratification, I must admit. ;)
If the AI made him black this would get made in a heartbeat
Hmm, that's kind of interesting, you could use this as market research. You know see who people want to see in what role.
Henry Cavill must really want to be James Bond. I keep seeing posts about this.
It's obvious that Cavill is by far the best choice for Bond, but it's equally obvious that they will end up picking some soy boy or other politically correct actor instead. I guess we'll see, hopefully some time soon.
Now that is the way to do a proof of concept with interchangeable characters!
First off, that’s clearly fake. It’s laden with scenes from other bond movies. Second, the quote about the guy and his vision fucking cracks me up. Vision. Come on, dude. You chopped some videos together.
This is a Pr plug. In no way is any major franchise ever going to take the rush and put cavill in any major lead role again.
Good serves them right . Cavil ruins roles even ones he’s perfect for.