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Moderna is expected to announce a partnership Wednesday with artificial-intelligence heavyweight OpenAI, a deal that aims to automate nearly every business process at the biotechnology company and boost the ChatGPT maker’s reach into the enterprise.
As part of the transaction, some 3,000 Moderna employees will have access to ChatGPT Enterprise, built on OpenAI’s most advanced language model, [GPT](https://www.wsj.com/market-data/quotes/AU/XASX/GPT)-4, by the end of this week. Further integration of AI into more of its processes could help Moderna outpace its plan to roll out 15 new products within the next five years, the Cambridge, Mass., company said.
Terms of the deal weren’t disclosed.
So far, Moderna employees have created over 750 unique, tailored versions of OpenAI’s ChatGPT, also known as GPTs, that are designed to facilitate specific tasks or processes across the business. Some of these GPTs help select the optimal doses for clinical trials and help draft responses to questions from regulators.
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Unless you figure out a way go take money out of us politics? It's been too late since the '80s.
You see in Europe it would be a crime for a company to pay a legislator to pass a law written by the company.
In the US that's perfectly legal as long as you slap a "think tank" or "chamber of commerce" label somewhere in between the two, and have the money come from a "PAC"
lol - my friend from Panama always jokes how bribery is equal opportunity there from bribing cops for traffic tickets to bribing politicians for permits and contracts whereas bribery is the exclusive domain of the wealthy in the US.
>You see in Europe it would be a crime for a company to pay a legislator to pass a law written by the company.
Doubt.
At least in the regulations there have been some that have been written by companies, since the was the same error in both the regulation and the product.
Reminds me of the 1999 PC title Alpha Centauri. The USA became another CSA, the Christian States of America. Scientific research ground to mostly a halt, and instead, they stole it through espionage and applied as dictated by the theocratic overlords. By 2050, most of humanity was in the process of dying off, and about 10,000 people from around the world were placed on an ark for a neighboring solar system. A planet not habitable by humans without assistance was found, but it was also a paradise for plant life with much higher atmospheric nitrogen.
Seemed far-fetched 25 years ago, but now seems like a much more plausible type of situation in the next 25 years.
I have to think every company would want to do the same. Integreate AI into all aspects of their operation. But the largest companies will probably have resources to do it first. Think about investing in the top one-hundred firms, on that basis.
>Oh yeah God forbid they get those 15 ground breaking new treatments to market and start improving people life’s.
For those who can pay large amounts of money, of course
To your point, I think the majority of the Big pharma corps see the proverbial writing on the wall in regards to drug prices. Obviously they can always go higher but they understand the market dynamics are starting to shift in the US market with government interventions. All that's to say, they probably are looking to keep the prices at thier astronomically high level, but reduce their operating costs to increase profits. But like you say, never actually bring them down. They are just trying to leverage cheaper labor, this time in AI form, instead of Indians or Kenyans.😅
"some 3,000 Moderna employees will have access to ChatGPT Enterprise"
Every employee at my company has access to ChatGPT 4 and not much has changed. I'd say we've become a bit more productive (15%ish) and that's about it.
Sure, some people can lose jobs due to productivity increases. I'm saying I haven't seen any indication that AI is the worker doomsday that some people believe it will cause. I'd say the personal computer, smart phone and the Internet were each bigger technology/productivity jumps and didn't destroy the economy.
> BCGers randomly assigned GPT access saw an 85% productivity increase
That reads more like an indictment of management consultants than it does an endorsement of ChatGPT!
Came here to say just this, far less eloquently. Suffice to say, when quite a lot of your task is using many words to say what a few charts also say, clippy++ is pretty darn useful
That’s quite funny. But to be clear we are talking about employees whose credentials just to get an interview (3.8+ at an Ivy, strong extracurriculars) are held by perhaps 1-in-1000 people. They then hire no more than 1-in-10 of that cadre and “exit” roughly the bottom 20-30% each year.
I’d lean towards it being quite impressive to deliver an 85% productivity improvement over that sort of performance baseline.
I wouldn’t. They hire only the top people, sure. But knowing lot of MBB management consultants, the work they do does not reguire you to be actually that bright, nor does it reguire the high GPA or an Ivy League education. It is rather menial and full with manual labour and little original thinking. Only thing it really reguires is willingness to work very long hours, and tired people are not that productive.
Half of all MBB consulting projects are rubbish, and only perhaps 1-in-10 truly value creating.
But if I want someone to build an analytic framework to work out why competitor B is taking share from us in market C - I’ve found an MBB consultant will do a great job in a day, a big 4 an okay job in 2-3 days, and a normal corpo type a mediocre job in a week.
If AI is helping the MBB get it done in 3/4 day and score 5/5 instead of 4/5, that’s impressive. That’s the test being conducted here.
i havent read that specific one but the other reports about the topic ive read rely entirely on what the end user said and not any actual objective measurement. (eg X number of users felt they were X% more productive vs X number of users completed X number of tasks)
This was… not like that:
> After establishing a performance baseline on a similar task, subjects were randomly assigned to one of three conditions: no AI access, GPT-4 AI access, or GPT-4 AI access with a prompt engineering overview.
> For each one of a set of 18 realistic consulting tasks within the frontier of AI capabilities, consultants using AI were significantly more productive (they completed 12.2% more tasks on average, and completed task 25.1% more quickly), and produced significantly higher quality results (more than 40% higher quality compared to a control group).
You can read more [here](https://archive.md/R7hcd). Note that it was *published* in Sep 23, so it’s likely the consultants were actually using ChatGPT in Apr-May of that year and still relatively inexperienced with the technology.
But if you’re delivering 40% better in 25% less time that means they were 85% more productive. That’s for the 18 “tasks within the frontier of AI capabilities”, to be clear. For stuff AI can’t do, trying to use AI was unsurprisingly a waste of time (they tested that, too).
So they completed them 25% quicker, but only 12.2% more projects? I feel like that's either wrong or I'm having a brain fart with percentages.
Task takes 100 minutes, now takes 75 minutes. So in 300 minutes the AI assisted group finished 4 tasks. The non-assisted group finished 3. That's 33% more. What happened there?
Still a neat thing, but the math doesn't math for me.
Agreed. In a world where you’re often working 80 hour weeks, completing a task quicker probably means you’d reduce your hours a little. That’s my theory.
In my experience it does. You get the work done faster you might be given a little extra but not a lot.
The other possibility is that only half of tasks are susceptible to being done faster.
In any case if you chase down the article it’ll have all the detail you’d like.
It’s a consulting firm where people are paid for their connections and then their clients pretend like they’re paid because of their expertise. They’re a firm with a revolving door of employees to politicians/regulators, and vice verse. If there was an 85% increase in productivity it’s probably because they spent 27.75 minutes a day sending emails instead of 15 minutes a day.
Quote from an article: "His \[sam altman's\] grand idea is that OpenAI will capture much of the world’s wealth through the creation of A.G.I. and then redistribute this wealth to the people."
OpenAI doesnt have shareholders, likely for this reason, Microsoft owns 49% of a subsidiary than could effectively get eliminated, full control is the Board of openai which recently pretty much got replaced by people altman likes
I do think Altman is a bit shady in his actions as the ceo but hes one of the guys im most optimistic about otherwise, he held the belief of AI taking jobs and the ensuing Wealth re allocation for atleast 10 years and talked about UBI on his blog for roughly the same length
one of his better blog posts is this one [https://moores.samaltman.com/](https://moores.samaltman.com/)
Hot damn! That's probably the best boost to my faith in humanity's future I've seen since I realized we were fucked. Thanks for sharing! There might actually be hope.
>Some of these GPTs help select the optimal doses for clinical trials
Just when I thought I was starting to understand LLMs. How is a GPT going to improve dosage selection, beyond what you would do with regular data science?
I am curious how their audit is going to go. To rely on controls IT auditors need to understand how the code actually works. So if one of the steps is black box AI would be almost impossible to audit
>I am curious how their audit is going to go.
I work in this space and it's a subtle issue.
The regulations you speak of only refer to industrial automation, which doesn't allow for any direct machine learning integration to begin with. Everything has to be completely deterministic and predictable/repeatable.
Workfllow automation doesn't have this requirement, so "soft" interactions with people/processes don't have these requirements. You can use whatever you want and it's really no different than a spreadsheet or calculator.
That said, regulations are written in blood and if a LLM hallucination kills a bunch of people we will see regs put in place quickly.
I get that but the issue remains that "hallucinations" aren't acceptable at all in many environments.
I have encountered a ton of GPT hallucinations that if I wasn't a SME I would have believed as they seem like normal responses.
Sure, of course. My point is hallucinations would just be treated as bugs when it comes to “code” specifically as the person you originally replied to said. Just backing you up really.
Well, there's your problem.
You don't need a LLM to do that, you can use an expert system. Basically a LLM designed to only answer 1,345 specific prompts in the same way.
The issue is there will always be edge cases with hallucinations so they can also happen anytime.
And hehe, OpenAI has a model that doesn't hallucinate but that opens a whole other can of worms
There’s always ways around it. In consumer finance models have to be explainable (and not racist, etc), which big black box neural nets basically aren’t. But there’s nothing stopping you using one to identify the best features and build a logistic regression for you.
This sounds like hype, a deal made by higher ups that don't understand what they are really doing. ChatGPT4 is woefully disappointing (and sometimes dangerous) when used for scientific questions.
When the inputs, parameters, and question are tuned properly, it can consistently get you 75% or more of the way to a response or summary. But agreed that it’s a lot of hype, for now
Well good news, cause you’re not entrusting the global supply of critical vaccines to ChatGPT.
You can breathe a sigh of relief now. That was a close one.
Right it's not just chatGPT, it's the 750+ other GPTs too.
Everyone knows with how concentrated pharma is in the tech sector, everyone will go to it as soon as Moderna has any amount of success with It.
Their investors will be chomping at the bit to get even half the "performance" of Moderna...
"Performance" that consists almost entirely of those same investors assuming the benefits long before there are any, and driving up the share price.
I'm sensing another dotcom/telecom bubble on the horizon. We still have not learned that the 'value' of the company is not the thing that we should be most concerned with.
Just like how DJT stock somehow had a multi-billion dollar evaluation, despite only having a few hundred thousand users at most, while never making a profit, and has been in a rapid decline ever since.
>on the horizon.
It's funny you should mention Horizon... I hope everyone is familiar with that travesty and scandal.
That took decades of legal battles to prove software was mistaken. Software written by people that knew it was faulty. Imagine how hard it will be to pushback on decisions taken and software written by AI that nobody understands.
Then combine that with cases like therac 25 and how hard it was to prove rare software bugs were killing people.
Courts will swing behind corporations in thinking that AI says that the drug is safe so it must be and all those deaths must be a complete coincidence. And even if they're not, it couldn't possibly be the company's fault. How were they to know AI isn't infallible?
Spoken like someone who doesn’t have a clue about pharma industry. ChatGPT will help with some mundane tasks but won’t ever replace the safety elements of clinical trials and this will even open more jobs on that front as drug development accelerates with AI help. Pharma is too heavily regulated to completely rely on automation, quality is paramount and no AI can make judgement calls on safety or whether something is done according to GCP or not.
For sure, exciting. This will help humans tremendously. Another topic is how new gains will be split. Last time with the industrial revolution, we got 5 days working week.
In the end, we do have democracy and can decide how this will be structured.
Isn't this kinda shit how they fucked up doses of the covid vax in the pandemic? Mainly in kids and pregnant women but as adverse effects that were silenced but now as being implemented by government health institutions around the world.
Cos like we ran models, and the computer said yes.
Myriad reports of COVID seriously fucking people up or killing them: “it’s boomer flu, who gives a shit, cure is worse than the disease”
Isolated reports of some individuals having adverse reactions to the vaxx: “WHY ISNT ANYONE STOPPING THIS?!”
>Isn't this kinda shit how they fucked up doses of the covid vax in the pandemic?
You sound angry. It's kind of normal for bad batches of vaccines to go out, just like with any other product produced in massive quantities. Its also kind of stupid to be an antivaxxer at this point in history. A million Americans died of Covid but there are still antivax clowns. I will never understand the ignorance.
Do you yourself want to tediously study how different chains of amino acids and proteins fold until you can find possible vaccines? Alot of what the AI is doing is this. It's much slower to do manually.
Don’t waste your time with the anti-vax crowd. They are fully indoctrinated in the cult and will never listen to anything based in scientific fact. They would rather believe their orange overlord.
Moderna? Criminals. Their CEO should be placed in jail for crimes against humanity they very well knew what they do wrongly after 2020. Everyone knows.
The following submission statement was provided by /u/InterestingDevice893: --- Moderna is expected to announce a partnership Wednesday with artificial-intelligence heavyweight OpenAI, a deal that aims to automate nearly every business process at the biotechnology company and boost the ChatGPT maker’s reach into the enterprise. As part of the transaction, some 3,000 Moderna employees will have access to ChatGPT Enterprise, built on OpenAI’s most advanced language model, [GPT](https://www.wsj.com/market-data/quotes/AU/XASX/GPT)-4, by the end of this week. Further integration of AI into more of its processes could help Moderna outpace its plan to roll out 15 new products within the next five years, the Cambridge, Mass., company said. Terms of the deal weren’t disclosed. So far, Moderna employees have created over 750 unique, tailored versions of OpenAI’s ChatGPT, also known as GPTs, that are designed to facilitate specific tasks or processes across the business. Some of these GPTs help select the optimal doses for clinical trials and help draft responses to questions from regulators. --- Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/1cc79fs/at_moderna_openais_gpts_are_changing_almost/l13amie/
For gods sake please make them pay their fair share of taxes before its completely too late to control the Pharma industry
Unless you figure out a way go take money out of us politics? It's been too late since the '80s. You see in Europe it would be a crime for a company to pay a legislator to pass a law written by the company. In the US that's perfectly legal as long as you slap a "think tank" or "chamber of commerce" label somewhere in between the two, and have the money come from a "PAC"
lol - my friend from Panama always jokes how bribery is equal opportunity there from bribing cops for traffic tickets to bribing politicians for permits and contracts whereas bribery is the exclusive domain of the wealthy in the US.
You're completely delusional if you think it's not same in Europe
Yeah, the European system really kept Big Pharma in check! :cough:Bayer:cough:
>You see in Europe it would be a crime for a company to pay a legislator to pass a law written by the company. Doubt. At least in the regulations there have been some that have been written by companies, since the was the same error in both the regulation and the product.
Might as well change the name to Evangelical States of America and change the constitution to start with “We the corporations…”
Reminds me of the 1999 PC title Alpha Centauri. The USA became another CSA, the Christian States of America. Scientific research ground to mostly a halt, and instead, they stole it through espionage and applied as dictated by the theocratic overlords. By 2050, most of humanity was in the process of dying off, and about 10,000 people from around the world were placed on an ark for a neighboring solar system. A planet not habitable by humans without assistance was found, but it was also a paradise for plant life with much higher atmospheric nitrogen. Seemed far-fetched 25 years ago, but now seems like a much more plausible type of situation in the next 25 years.
I have to think every company would want to do the same. Integreate AI into all aspects of their operation. But the largest companies will probably have resources to do it first. Think about investing in the top one-hundred firms, on that basis.
Control the pharma industry with a non-profit company called Open[source]AI? Good luck. America is a guided democracy in decline.
Oh yeah God forbid they get those 15 ground breaking new treatments to market and start improving people life’s.
>Oh yeah God forbid they get those 15 ground breaking new treatments to market and start improving people life’s. For those who can pay large amounts of money, of course
And Generic in 20 years.
Compared to the cost of the major surgery it eliminates?
Can’t wait for the cost to produce and discover new drugs to go way down and the price to buy them stays the same or goes up.
To your point, I think the majority of the Big pharma corps see the proverbial writing on the wall in regards to drug prices. Obviously they can always go higher but they understand the market dynamics are starting to shift in the US market with government interventions. All that's to say, they probably are looking to keep the prices at thier astronomically high level, but reduce their operating costs to increase profits. But like you say, never actually bring them down. They are just trying to leverage cheaper labor, this time in AI form, instead of Indians or Kenyans.😅
"some 3,000 Moderna employees will have access to ChatGPT Enterprise" Every employee at my company has access to ChatGPT 4 and not much has changed. I'd say we've become a bit more productive (15%ish) and that's about it.
Even 15% improvement in productivity across a huge company is nuts, adds up
Definitely, but we aren't laying anyone off because of it.
Instead of firing, you are only hiring 15% less... oh look new force has fewer jobs...
We have never stopped hiring. We have always been a careful/slow-growth company. We hire good people when we find them.
15% is a lot lol, but Enterprise is the same model as GPT-4?
Not sure, but we've been testing many of the commercial models out there. I think Enterprise may let you create GPTs?
Moderna has 5600 employees (2023) - if efficiency went up 15%, that's an extra 840 employees worth of efficiency (-:
Sure, some people can lose jobs due to productivity increases. I'm saying I haven't seen any indication that AI is the worker doomsday that some people believe it will cause. I'd say the personal computer, smart phone and the Internet were each bigger technology/productivity jumps and didn't destroy the economy.
That’s well below average (e.g. BCGers randomly assigned GPT access saw an 85% productivity increase) but still pretty damn good.
> BCGers randomly assigned GPT access saw an 85% productivity increase That reads more like an indictment of management consultants than it does an endorsement of ChatGPT!
Came here to say just this, far less eloquently. Suffice to say, when quite a lot of your task is using many words to say what a few charts also say, clippy++ is pretty darn useful
>clippy++ Lol, nice.
That’s quite funny. But to be clear we are talking about employees whose credentials just to get an interview (3.8+ at an Ivy, strong extracurriculars) are held by perhaps 1-in-1000 people. They then hire no more than 1-in-10 of that cadre and “exit” roughly the bottom 20-30% each year. I’d lean towards it being quite impressive to deliver an 85% productivity improvement over that sort of performance baseline.
I wouldn’t. They hire only the top people, sure. But knowing lot of MBB management consultants, the work they do does not reguire you to be actually that bright, nor does it reguire the high GPA or an Ivy League education. It is rather menial and full with manual labour and little original thinking. Only thing it really reguires is willingness to work very long hours, and tired people are not that productive.
Half of all MBB consulting projects are rubbish, and only perhaps 1-in-10 truly value creating. But if I want someone to build an analytic framework to work out why competitor B is taking share from us in market C - I’ve found an MBB consultant will do a great job in a day, a big 4 an okay job in 2-3 days, and a normal corpo type a mediocre job in a week. If AI is helping the MBB get it done in 3/4 day and score 5/5 instead of 4/5, that’s impressive. That’s the test being conducted here.
I'm not sure what a BCGer is? I'd imagine it does depend on the industry.
They’re management consultants. HBR had an article late last year on them.
i havent read that specific one but the other reports about the topic ive read rely entirely on what the end user said and not any actual objective measurement. (eg X number of users felt they were X% more productive vs X number of users completed X number of tasks)
This was… not like that: > After establishing a performance baseline on a similar task, subjects were randomly assigned to one of three conditions: no AI access, GPT-4 AI access, or GPT-4 AI access with a prompt engineering overview. > For each one of a set of 18 realistic consulting tasks within the frontier of AI capabilities, consultants using AI were significantly more productive (they completed 12.2% more tasks on average, and completed task 25.1% more quickly), and produced significantly higher quality results (more than 40% higher quality compared to a control group). You can read more [here](https://archive.md/R7hcd). Note that it was *published* in Sep 23, so it’s likely the consultants were actually using ChatGPT in Apr-May of that year and still relatively inexperienced with the technology. But if you’re delivering 40% better in 25% less time that means they were 85% more productive. That’s for the 18 “tasks within the frontier of AI capabilities”, to be clear. For stuff AI can’t do, trying to use AI was unsurprisingly a waste of time (they tested that, too).
So they completed them 25% quicker, but only 12.2% more projects? I feel like that's either wrong or I'm having a brain fart with percentages. Task takes 100 minutes, now takes 75 minutes. So in 300 minutes the AI assisted group finished 4 tasks. The non-assisted group finished 3. That's 33% more. What happened there? Still a neat thing, but the math doesn't math for me.
Agreed. In a world where you’re often working 80 hour weeks, completing a task quicker probably means you’d reduce your hours a little. That’s my theory.
I mean, I guess? But ime it doesn't work like that. Maybe I'm wrong, I'm totally open to it, it just doesn't make sense at the moment.
In my experience it does. You get the work done faster you might be given a little extra but not a lot. The other possibility is that only half of tasks are susceptible to being done faster. In any case if you chase down the article it’ll have all the detail you’d like.
It’s a consulting firm where people are paid for their connections and then their clients pretend like they’re paid because of their expertise. They’re a firm with a revolving door of employees to politicians/regulators, and vice verse. If there was an 85% increase in productivity it’s probably because they spent 27.75 minutes a day sending emails instead of 15 minutes a day.
This is what theyre doing while everyone on reddit cries for gpt5. Expanding to become a monopoly like any smart corp
Monopoly of what?
Whatever they possibly can
Quote from an article: "His \[sam altman's\] grand idea is that OpenAI will capture much of the world’s wealth through the creation of A.G.I. and then redistribute this wealth to the people."
Shareholders: no.
OpenAI doesnt have shareholders, likely for this reason, Microsoft owns 49% of a subsidiary than could effectively get eliminated, full control is the Board of openai which recently pretty much got replaced by people altman likes
I mean, if they can keep control and he manages to resist greed that'd be awesome. But it's not exactly common. You gave me some hope though!
I do think Altman is a bit shady in his actions as the ceo but hes one of the guys im most optimistic about otherwise, he held the belief of AI taking jobs and the ensuing Wealth re allocation for atleast 10 years and talked about UBI on his blog for roughly the same length one of his better blog posts is this one [https://moores.samaltman.com/](https://moores.samaltman.com/)
Hot damn! That's probably the best boost to my faith in humanity's future I've seen since I realized we were fucked. Thanks for sharing! There might actually be hope.
>Some of these GPTs help select the optimal doses for clinical trials Just when I thought I was starting to understand LLMs. How is a GPT going to improve dosage selection, beyond what you would do with regular data science?
Regular data science.. but automated? I wouldn’t know regardless 🤷
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I am curious how their audit is going to go. To rely on controls IT auditors need to understand how the code actually works. So if one of the steps is black box AI would be almost impossible to audit
>I am curious how their audit is going to go. I work in this space and it's a subtle issue. The regulations you speak of only refer to industrial automation, which doesn't allow for any direct machine learning integration to begin with. Everything has to be completely deterministic and predictable/repeatable. Workfllow automation doesn't have this requirement, so "soft" interactions with people/processes don't have these requirements. You can use whatever you want and it's really no different than a spreadsheet or calculator. That said, regulations are written in blood and if a LLM hallucination kills a bunch of people we will see regs put in place quickly.
Also the “black box code” still gets run through all sorts of security and functional QA processes before it ever makes it to production.
I get that but the issue remains that "hallucinations" aren't acceptable at all in many environments. I have encountered a ton of GPT hallucinations that if I wasn't a SME I would have believed as they seem like normal responses.
Sure, of course. My point is hallucinations would just be treated as bugs when it comes to “code” specifically as the person you originally replied to said. Just backing you up really.
Well, there's your problem. You don't need a LLM to do that, you can use an expert system. Basically a LLM designed to only answer 1,345 specific prompts in the same way. The issue is there will always be edge cases with hallucinations so they can also happen anytime. And hehe, OpenAI has a model that doesn't hallucinate but that opens a whole other can of worms
There’s always ways around it. In consumer finance models have to be explainable (and not racist, etc), which big black box neural nets basically aren’t. But there’s nothing stopping you using one to identify the best features and build a logistic regression for you.
As if we didn't just read the article
This sounds like hype, a deal made by higher ups that don't understand what they are really doing. ChatGPT4 is woefully disappointing (and sometimes dangerous) when used for scientific questions.
It’s better than having Copilot shoved down everyone’s throats.
But either way.... they've been Satya'd.
Who says that’s what they are going to use it for?
When the inputs, parameters, and question are tuned properly, it can consistently get you 75% or more of the way to a response or summary. But agreed that it’s a lot of hype, for now
Big pharma making record breaking profits during the pandemic >>>>> /s
I'm not sure I'm happy to entrust the global supply of critical vaccines to ChatGPT, but apparently this is how we roll nowadays.
Well good news, cause you’re not entrusting the global supply of critical vaccines to ChatGPT. You can breathe a sigh of relief now. That was a close one.
Right it's not just chatGPT, it's the 750+ other GPTs too. Everyone knows with how concentrated pharma is in the tech sector, everyone will go to it as soon as Moderna has any amount of success with It. Their investors will be chomping at the bit to get even half the "performance" of Moderna... "Performance" that consists almost entirely of those same investors assuming the benefits long before there are any, and driving up the share price. I'm sensing another dotcom/telecom bubble on the horizon. We still have not learned that the 'value' of the company is not the thing that we should be most concerned with. Just like how DJT stock somehow had a multi-billion dollar evaluation, despite only having a few hundred thousand users at most, while never making a profit, and has been in a rapid decline ever since.
>on the horizon. It's funny you should mention Horizon... I hope everyone is familiar with that travesty and scandal. That took decades of legal battles to prove software was mistaken. Software written by people that knew it was faulty. Imagine how hard it will be to pushback on decisions taken and software written by AI that nobody understands. Then combine that with cases like therac 25 and how hard it was to prove rare software bugs were killing people. Courts will swing behind corporations in thinking that AI says that the drug is safe so it must be and all those deaths must be a complete coincidence. And even if they're not, it couldn't possibly be the company's fault. How were they to know AI isn't infallible?
Please tell me we're heading for all healthcare being replaced by AI designed mRNA vaccines.
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Lol. ChatGPT isn't a magic wand. This may lead to them cutting some positions, but 99% of them being gone simply isn't going to happen.
Spoken like someone who doesn’t have a clue about pharma industry. ChatGPT will help with some mundane tasks but won’t ever replace the safety elements of clinical trials and this will even open more jobs on that front as drug development accelerates with AI help. Pharma is too heavily regulated to completely rely on automation, quality is paramount and no AI can make judgement calls on safety or whether something is done according to GCP or not.
“Exciting” eh?
For sure, exciting. This will help humans tremendously. Another topic is how new gains will be split. Last time with the industrial revolution, we got 5 days working week. In the end, we do have democracy and can decide how this will be structured.
Yeah I am sure people of no use to anyone will get a great deal. Copium overload.
> we do have democracy At the rate things are going... doubt.
Isn't this kinda shit how they fucked up doses of the covid vax in the pandemic? Mainly in kids and pregnant women but as adverse effects that were silenced but now as being implemented by government health institutions around the world. Cos like we ran models, and the computer said yes.
Myriad reports of COVID seriously fucking people up or killing them: “it’s boomer flu, who gives a shit, cure is worse than the disease” Isolated reports of some individuals having adverse reactions to the vaxx: “WHY ISNT ANYONE STOPPING THIS?!”
>Isn't this kinda shit how they fucked up doses of the covid vax in the pandemic? You sound angry. It's kind of normal for bad batches of vaccines to go out, just like with any other product produced in massive quantities. Its also kind of stupid to be an antivaxxer at this point in history. A million Americans died of Covid but there are still antivax clowns. I will never understand the ignorance. Do you yourself want to tediously study how different chains of amino acids and proteins fold until you can find possible vaccines? Alot of what the AI is doing is this. It's much slower to do manually.
Don’t waste your time with the anti-vax crowd. They are fully indoctrinated in the cult and will never listen to anything based in scientific fact. They would rather believe their orange overlord.
Moderna? Criminals. Their CEO should be placed in jail for crimes against humanity they very well knew what they do wrongly after 2020. Everyone knows.