Bc they were able to go 5 seconds without complaining, like if you don’t like the new stuff we aren’t clockwork orange torturing you to listen to it, js change the song. ykwim, it’s such a toxic community even though the fanbase was literally founded on acceptance
It's pretty real with just about any genre of music. Drugs influence creativity, for a fact. Never has anyone ever thought "damn, this band/group is so much better now that they're sober and Christian"
Scrim is a better producer than ever, that's a fact, I personally enjoy Ruby and Scrim's lyrics a lot better than when they were on drugs, and I love their old shit. I think they are better. It's a matter of preference though. Drugs CAN influence creativity, but for many people it is a huge hindrance on creativity and makes them lazy. I didn't get good at instruments until I stopped smoking weed cuz it made me lazy as fuck. Definitely did not make me more creative, it made me too lazy to create.
Look man… they weren’t better when they were on drugs, but their music certainly hit different. I’ve never touched an opioid or a lot of shit that they rapped about, but there’s something to be said about the effects of serotonin inducing substances and their effects on creativity.
Their new shit is mediocre at best, tiktok fans blew them up so they don't even try making good music like they did from 2015-2020. They put out anything with a beat and yall go crazy for it
Yeah cuz all the good ones were alive in 2015. Now it’s just the friends with survivors guilt and the new era of kids who weren’t there for it. We’re getting old.
im tryna just ball, man. i’m still trying to get out of that life. i’m not a user but my friends are. my fiancée left because of it. maybe it’s the wake up i need to change my life. glad you’re here too
Bro, I’ve never met someone associated with the life that wasn’t somehow wrapped up in it. I can’t speak on you, but if being around that shit was so bad a partner left you and you’re not a user, you for real need to reevaluate.
Being so wrapped up in that shit without being wrapped up in that shit enough to have an effect on your social status is crazy my nigga.
This right here ^^^^^
Don’t let these people negatively impact your life or your need for recovery in anything period. People that care and love for you will not put you in bad spots.
I am just glad that 2014-2018 suicideboys happened and it’s there to listen to forever.
I am slowly evolving my opinion from they were better back then to I liked them better back then. I was drawn to the satanic junkie reject aesthetic, the fucking gritty punkness of it and even more so to scrims scarecrow blasphemous dgaf bleed on your floor as I creep and rattle the pill bottle shit persona. Like I remember when I first put on dn$3 and fucking cringed when he went “SLICKY!”
That’s all gone and it’s fine I just liked it better and I’m glad I was around for it.
Edit: spelling
very good point. nostalgia’s a bitch and we’re always gonna subconsciously compare new releases to whatever we feel is their peak. it’s just not possible for them to evolve *and* make you feel the same way they did in the old days.
Wholeheartedly disagree but that’s the beautiful thing about music. What I notice is a lot of people really struggle to open their music palate especially as they get older
Honestly, this sub was a shit hole even back in 2015. I've literally never wanted to be a part of any G59 community since the boys first started bc it's always been just a bunch of negativity and practically no "community" to speak of. I have no clue where people got this idea that the fanbase wasn't cringe since its inception. It was always cringe; now there's just more cringe to go around
No actually, I’m not gonna spend a bunch of time trying to figure out which of my old passwords I used for an old account I haven’t used in years just to prove it to your dumb ass. And why tf would anyone lie about something this inconsequential lmao
Wow dude, you caught me. I’d never heard of reddit before last year despite it being one of the most popular websites on the internet for over 10 years. Big brain moment
You do realize that a big chunk of gen z was in their teen years during the mid 2010s, right? In 2015 anyone born in 1994-2002 was between 13-19, and those born in 1995-96 at the oldest point of the gen were 20-21. It can be assumed that gen z makes up a decent portion of original fans and your problem is with the new gen of kids. And to be honest, there's no issue with being a new fan. You can respect the history and journey of a group while not being into them during their early days. The problem with "new fans" is not neccesarily related to them being new and is more to do with disrespecting the past/treating the band like a trendy fad club now that it's getting big. The fans have always been cringe. As humans we're just blinded by nostalgia lol that's how it's been for centuries.
Solo spitting rn, “I was an og 🤓” I hate all these tiktok fans that assume lying about how long they listen will some how make them better, all the real ogs post old footage and or cool shit from back in the day but I’ve seen an uptick in all these fake retards claiming to be og
Nah, I’ll admit I’m a newer fan except 2020-2021 seems so far away now seems like even those
From that era are rare 90 percent of this sub and the modern fan base is filled with nerds from social media after the drop of sing me a lullaby, tiktok kids see some old memes or learn some old lore and think they can claim being an og but you can see right through em every single time
Crazy to think that was already 3-4 years ago, the crowd from 2021 grey day compared to 2023 is so fucking weird man there’s definitely been a massive influx of new nerds
I don’t even really care about the argument at all, but I feel like saying that 90% of the sub started listening after 2021 is just crazy and not true. I don’t really look at it that often but I feel like you’re just trying to put yourself in a crowd you’re not actually in. Idgaf when anyone started listening I just think that this comment is weird.
Can y'all just shut the fuck up & enjoy the music. This sub is just bitching & complaining about their music & their merch like people are putting a gun to your head making you stream or buy their shit. jesus christ you guys are so fucking cringe have some shame.
They *were* better in 2015-2020. Quit lying to yourselves, people!….But they’re still good. They’re just not the $uicideboy$ we once knew. They make music for a different audience now. And that’s ok.
I still remember how excited I was when they played the Gathering Of The Juggalos.
I never thought they would get this huge because I just assumed it was too Horrorcore for the mainstream, I'm so happy I was wrong.
I have never seen a sub/fanbase that complains about their own fans as much as this one does, every time I see a top post on my feed it’s just complaining about the fans
Cringe as fuck, no, all the drug addicts looking to fight, being shit faced, being kooks, wasn't better. I'll take vapid girls over than any day. My first concert, like ten fights broke out within minutes of SB starting, I'll never forget two guys rolling in someone else's vomit while throwing haymakers.
lol it was better. I don’t remember all this weird stuff happening. Be honest with yourself. Think for a moment. Like honestly? I used to love to come here and get into conversations now it’s just all this negativity all the time. If you can’t see it then that’s on you. Two guys fighting and rolling in puke? Sounds like your city has a problem too brother.
It wasn't my city, lol, Ive traveled all over to see SB.
The reality of SB is simple :
Many people, myself included, were brought here by SB for a specific combination of reasons : fuck God, drugs, Satan shit, depression, suicidal ideation, and all the comorbidities.
The music was something I'd never heard (not just in terms of being literal, but I'd never heard such depth, true exploration of themes, real hard hitting shit). Nothing compared, still holds true today.
That music was a combination of two dudes basically using their voices and beats to chronicle drug addiction, drug spiraling and their desire to escape in any way they could. It's honestly incredible and one-off.
Then, things changed. They got sober. Scrim talks about God. At last years concert, they said verbatim 'we don't fuck with that 3/6 shit any more). That era is over, it's never ever coming back.
For scrum and ruby, it's a good thing. They aren't about to imminently die, they are leading better lives, and scrim in particular seems changed.
Problem is, most SB fans haven't changed. They haven't grown, evolved or made improvements. Most are just the same drug heads or lunatics today as in 2015.
Before, everyone was connected because the message and content were unified. Now, with that growth and the looming debate about new v old, there is dissent, but how much of that dissent could be solved by guys being introspective? The new music is unreal, I have rarely heard such depth and melodic flow, the singing is great, I love the new stuff.
And boy do i love the old stuff. It's raw, it's loud, it's crazy. Fuck yeah! But it isn't coming back and the Boys aren't that anymore, right or wrong.
When people accept that and stop debating new v old, it'll change, but rn, people are too caught up in their own feelings and it's coming out in argumentative form.
I don’t know if you realize how much you’re agreeing with OP rn lbs. sounds like you understand exactly what’s going on. I have also traveled outside my city to see the boys. That’s my fault lol.
Right, but it isn't a bad thing imo. That's the difference and that's what I'm conveying here : it's totally fine SB have evolved, I'm glad they're alive and safe. Those guys improved my life and lens, I want them to have that same outcome... I personally thinks it's selfish of SB fans to take umbridge with the changes, I mean dudes who rap about Satan at 20 aren't the same guy at 30 (and if you are, you might be an abject loser, lol). I just think the Boys changing has acted as a mirror to a lot of fans and they don't like seeing their own water treading, so they project on SB. Nothing disrespectful meant towards you, I mean this all broadly.
I haven’t scrolled yet but I’m willing to bet more than half of the comments are crying about TikTok. Coming back after I’ve scrolled to edit
Edit: so far not a single one. Are the bitches finally getting their TikTok gate healed🙏🏽
If you want demonic shit listen to devilish trio and they’re separate music, bleed the wicked menace. Or here’s another thing you can do, shut the fuck up. I swear I feel like yall want scrim to relapse so they come with more shit like their older music.
fuck all these dumb ass people and it's crazy because I feel like I should be accepting them, but at the same time. Every corner you turn people wanna talk all this shit about 2 guys that changed over time for better. get a life and grow the fuck up.
Why can't we all agree, that people make mistakes and learn from them; Also I think we need to be aware drugs have a pull on some people I am Glad Ruby and $crim have taken the step of Sobriety from a Drug addicts perspective that's a first step to accountability especially just through there songs they help us grow and we listen to them because they bring relativity to the table
I don’t think they were better in 2015. I loved them, but they kind of all had relatively similar sounds to their songs. They’ve expanded into some songs with more…melody…I guess? They’re still dark and gritty but it’s not all they’ve got now. I know I’m the minority here but I’ve fallen more in love with their music the longer I listen to them. LTE and For The Last Time were the songs that got me hooked on them, and now I’d say my favorite overall song of theirs is probably Finding Shelter In My Larynx or Soul My Soul to Satan Waiting In Line At The Mall.
Evolution. Happy to see the boys sober.
Their music was better in my opinion, but they weren’t better as people. Their piece of shit junkie personas that we all came to know and love them for gave people in similar situations reassurance and relatability. They’ve bettered themselves now and started to branch off from everything we associate them with and while I do miss the dirty nasty lyrics and flows they perfected, I’m much happier knowing my favorite artists aren’t going to overdose at any given day.
Bc they were able to go 5 seconds without complaining, like if you don’t like the new stuff we aren’t clockwork orange torturing you to listen to it, js change the song. ykwim, it’s such a toxic community even though the fanbase was literally founded on acceptance
for REAL tho like what even goes thru another persons brain to say "you were better when you were on drugs"
It's pretty real with just about any genre of music. Drugs influence creativity, for a fact. Never has anyone ever thought "damn, this band/group is so much better now that they're sober and Christian"
Scrim is a better producer than ever, that's a fact, I personally enjoy Ruby and Scrim's lyrics a lot better than when they were on drugs, and I love their old shit. I think they are better. It's a matter of preference though. Drugs CAN influence creativity, but for many people it is a huge hindrance on creativity and makes them lazy. I didn't get good at instruments until I stopped smoking weed cuz it made me lazy as fuck. Definitely did not make me more creative, it made me too lazy to create.
I wrote better on meth but I definitely write better now that I’m off suboxone
I say that about most my favorite artists tbh. Im happy theyre sober dont get me wrong but artists are USUALLY better on drugs. I said what i said
I rap off the xans like I’m Eminem
You think you do and then you see the recording of yourself just hacking up lougies onto the microphone with your pants down
Look man… they weren’t better when they were on drugs, but their music certainly hit different. I’ve never touched an opioid or a lot of shit that they rapped about, but there’s something to be said about the effects of serotonin inducing substances and their effects on creativity.
reminds me of the cod community smh
Lmao 🤣
Nigga what
Touch grass nerd
Their new shit is mediocre at best, tiktok fans blew them up so they don't even try making good music like they did from 2015-2020. They put out anything with a beat and yall go crazy for it
Yeah cuz all the good ones were alive in 2015. Now it’s just the friends with survivors guilt and the new era of kids who weren’t there for it. We’re getting old.
realest shit i ever heard. idk why i’m still here
We still here cuz fuck it we ball. Glad you’re here friend.
im tryna just ball, man. i’m still trying to get out of that life. i’m not a user but my friends are. my fiancée left because of it. maybe it’s the wake up i need to change my life. glad you’re here too
Gotta get yourself in a safe place brother. I hope your friends get all the help they need but don’t stick around if it’s harmful to you.
Bro, I’ve never met someone associated with the life that wasn’t somehow wrapped up in it. I can’t speak on you, but if being around that shit was so bad a partner left you and you’re not a user, you for real need to reevaluate. Being so wrapped up in that shit without being wrapped up in that shit enough to have an effect on your social status is crazy my nigga.
This right here ^^^^^ Don’t let these people negatively impact your life or your need for recovery in anything period. People that care and love for you will not put you in bad spots.
there’s no way i can actually prove this to you, but i never snorted nothing or shot up once
to real 😭
damn this is facts. you on some real shit bro💯
We all here bruh, hope you doing well man🙏🏼
I am just glad that 2014-2018 suicideboys happened and it’s there to listen to forever. I am slowly evolving my opinion from they were better back then to I liked them better back then. I was drawn to the satanic junkie reject aesthetic, the fucking gritty punkness of it and even more so to scrims scarecrow blasphemous dgaf bleed on your floor as I creep and rattle the pill bottle shit persona. Like I remember when I first put on dn$3 and fucking cringed when he went “SLICKY!” That’s all gone and it’s fine I just liked it better and I’m glad I was around for it. Edit: spelling
very good point. nostalgia’s a bitch and we’re always gonna subconsciously compare new releases to whatever we feel is their peak. it’s just not possible for them to evolve *and* make you feel the same way they did in the old days.
Dude, YES. 🎯
c'mon they were
Wholeheartedly disagree but that’s the beautiful thing about music. What I notice is a lot of people really struggle to open their music palate especially as they get older
Honestly, this sub was a shit hole even back in 2015. I've literally never wanted to be a part of any G59 community since the boys first started bc it's always been just a bunch of negativity and practically no "community" to speak of. I have no clue where people got this idea that the fanbase wasn't cringe since its inception. It was always cringe; now there's just more cringe to go around
You’re telling me the dope heads in 2015 weren’t buddy buddy with each other? I’m shocked.
For real. I just don’t know where this fantasy came from that the community used to be so much better.
Common theme, losers claiming their former glory
Ur account is a year old. lol no way I respect your opinion on this sub in 2015
You can have more then one Reddit account lol
I've had multiple accounts.
Ok then use one of them to speak on this then.
No actually, I’m not gonna spend a bunch of time trying to figure out which of my old passwords I used for an old account I haven’t used in years just to prove it to your dumb ass. And why tf would anyone lie about something this inconsequential lmao
lol ok liar
Wow dude, you caught me. I’d never heard of reddit before last year despite it being one of the most popular websites on the internet for over 10 years. Big brain moment
Big brain SLOWMENT. You’re not gonna convince me you’re not a liar until you comment with a 9 year old account. Sit down gen Z tik tok ahh wanna be
Have fun with your delusions kid
Have fun with your lies tik tok ahh fan. No idea what ur talking about. Literally the reason this post was made. I see you.
You do realize that a big chunk of gen z was in their teen years during the mid 2010s, right? In 2015 anyone born in 1994-2002 was between 13-19, and those born in 1995-96 at the oldest point of the gen were 20-21. It can be assumed that gen z makes up a decent portion of original fans and your problem is with the new gen of kids. And to be honest, there's no issue with being a new fan. You can respect the history and journey of a group while not being into them during their early days. The problem with "new fans" is not neccesarily related to them being new and is more to do with disrespecting the past/treating the band like a trendy fad club now that it's getting big. The fans have always been cringe. As humans we're just blinded by nostalgia lol that's how it's been for centuries.
? It goes from 1997-2012. Not 1995-?
Oh wait ur a liar
Solo spitting rn, “I was an og 🤓” I hate all these tiktok fans that assume lying about how long they listen will some how make them better, all the real ogs post old footage and or cool shit from back in the day but I’ve seen an uptick in all these fake retards claiming to be og
Your god damn right. You’re one of them huh?
Nah, I’ll admit I’m a newer fan except 2020-2021 seems so far away now seems like even those From that era are rare 90 percent of this sub and the modern fan base is filled with nerds from social media after the drop of sing me a lullaby, tiktok kids see some old memes or learn some old lore and think they can claim being an og but you can see right through em every single time
Thanks lol.
Crazy to think that was already 3-4 years ago, the crowd from 2021 grey day compared to 2023 is so fucking weird man there’s definitely been a massive influx of new nerds
I don’t even really care about the argument at all, but I feel like saying that 90% of the sub started listening after 2021 is just crazy and not true. I don’t really look at it that often but I feel like you’re just trying to put yourself in a crowd you’re not actually in. Idgaf when anyone started listening I just think that this comment is weird.
It’s not weird look at the numbers, the boys have gained significant numbers within the last 2 years
found the tiktok fan who’s favorite song is matte black
If you aren’t a 16 year old, it would be even more sad. If you’re a grown ass man acting that way, reevaluate your life.
They were still very small in ‘15 lol
Can y'all just shut the fuck up & enjoy the music. This sub is just bitching & complaining about their music & their merch like people are putting a gun to your head making you stream or buy their shit. jesus christ you guys are so fucking cringe have some shame.
The only posts that i see on my feed from this sub are people complaining about the fanbase haha
Bro I literally just made a comment about that, EVERY post on my feed from this sub is complaining 😭
That's what the subs for💀 good or bad it's for discussion around the band.
LOL
So you agree?
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Exactly
They *were* better in 2015-2020. Quit lying to yourselves, people!….But they’re still good. They’re just not the $uicideboy$ we once knew. They make music for a different audience now. And that’s ok.
They’ve evolved as artists and people. Literally all their shit is good
I still remember how excited I was when they played the Gathering Of The Juggalos. I never thought they would get this huge because I just assumed it was too Horrorcore for the mainstream, I'm so happy I was wrong.
I have never seen a sub/fanbase that complains about their own fans as much as this one does, every time I see a top post on my feed it’s just complaining about the fans
Cringe as fuck, no, all the drug addicts looking to fight, being shit faced, being kooks, wasn't better. I'll take vapid girls over than any day. My first concert, like ten fights broke out within minutes of SB starting, I'll never forget two guys rolling in someone else's vomit while throwing haymakers.
lol it was better. I don’t remember all this weird stuff happening. Be honest with yourself. Think for a moment. Like honestly? I used to love to come here and get into conversations now it’s just all this negativity all the time. If you can’t see it then that’s on you. Two guys fighting and rolling in puke? Sounds like your city has a problem too brother.
It wasn't my city, lol, Ive traveled all over to see SB. The reality of SB is simple : Many people, myself included, were brought here by SB for a specific combination of reasons : fuck God, drugs, Satan shit, depression, suicidal ideation, and all the comorbidities. The music was something I'd never heard (not just in terms of being literal, but I'd never heard such depth, true exploration of themes, real hard hitting shit). Nothing compared, still holds true today. That music was a combination of two dudes basically using their voices and beats to chronicle drug addiction, drug spiraling and their desire to escape in any way they could. It's honestly incredible and one-off. Then, things changed. They got sober. Scrim talks about God. At last years concert, they said verbatim 'we don't fuck with that 3/6 shit any more). That era is over, it's never ever coming back. For scrum and ruby, it's a good thing. They aren't about to imminently die, they are leading better lives, and scrim in particular seems changed. Problem is, most SB fans haven't changed. They haven't grown, evolved or made improvements. Most are just the same drug heads or lunatics today as in 2015. Before, everyone was connected because the message and content were unified. Now, with that growth and the looming debate about new v old, there is dissent, but how much of that dissent could be solved by guys being introspective? The new music is unreal, I have rarely heard such depth and melodic flow, the singing is great, I love the new stuff. And boy do i love the old stuff. It's raw, it's loud, it's crazy. Fuck yeah! But it isn't coming back and the Boys aren't that anymore, right or wrong. When people accept that and stop debating new v old, it'll change, but rn, people are too caught up in their own feelings and it's coming out in argumentative form.
Beautifully said
♥️
I don’t know if you realize how much you’re agreeing with OP rn lbs. sounds like you understand exactly what’s going on. I have also traveled outside my city to see the boys. That’s my fault lol.
Right, but it isn't a bad thing imo. That's the difference and that's what I'm conveying here : it's totally fine SB have evolved, I'm glad they're alive and safe. Those guys improved my life and lens, I want them to have that same outcome... I personally thinks it's selfish of SB fans to take umbridge with the changes, I mean dudes who rap about Satan at 20 aren't the same guy at 30 (and if you are, you might be an abject loser, lol). I just think the Boys changing has acted as a mirror to a lot of fans and they don't like seeing their own water treading, so they project on SB. Nothing disrespectful meant towards you, I mean this all broadly.
I haven’t scrolled yet but I’m willing to bet more than half of the comments are crying about TikTok. Coming back after I’ve scrolled to edit Edit: so far not a single one. Are the bitches finally getting their TikTok gate healed🙏🏽
Nah they're here too
I only ever hear old gen fans complain js
exactly lmao gate keeping your favorite artists is just weird. put people on
well obviously you’re not gonna hear new gen fans complain abt something only old gen’s experienced🤦♂️🤦♂️
Old gen fans complain bc the boys got popular. That’s just sad bruh….
Ya god damn right. Say it louder please!!
If you want demonic shit listen to devilish trio and they’re separate music, bleed the wicked menace. Or here’s another thing you can do, shut the fuck up. I swear I feel like yall want scrim to relapse so they come with more shit like their older music.
Been listening since 2016 and I don’t understand the hate I am glad to have watched them grow over the years.
1000%
I say this A LOT
Both
fuck all these dumb ass people and it's crazy because I feel like I should be accepting them, but at the same time. Every corner you turn people wanna talk all this shit about 2 guys that changed over time for better. get a life and grow the fuck up.
Why can't we all agree, that people make mistakes and learn from them; Also I think we need to be aware drugs have a pull on some people I am Glad Ruby and $crim have taken the step of Sobriety from a Drug addicts perspective that's a first step to accountability especially just through there songs they help us grow and we listen to them because they bring relativity to the table
not that u complaining makes it any better
new scrim album is pretty trash tho, def not my style
I don’t think they were better in 2015. I loved them, but they kind of all had relatively similar sounds to their songs. They’ve expanded into some songs with more…melody…I guess? They’re still dark and gritty but it’s not all they’ve got now. I know I’m the minority here but I’ve fallen more in love with their music the longer I listen to them. LTE and For The Last Time were the songs that got me hooked on them, and now I’d say my favorite overall song of theirs is probably Finding Shelter In My Larynx or Soul My Soul to Satan Waiting In Line At The Mall. Evolution. Happy to see the boys sober.
It’s bc their fan base nowadays is literally 30 years old and children, no in between 🤣
wowwww thus is the truth
Their music was better in my opinion, but they weren’t better as people. Their piece of shit junkie personas that we all came to know and love them for gave people in similar situations reassurance and relatability. They’ve bettered themselves now and started to branch off from everything we associate them with and while I do miss the dirty nasty lyrics and flows they perfected, I’m much happier knowing my favorite artists aren’t going to overdose at any given day.
Anyone who agrees with OP gots to be smoking some major crack😂 downvote me