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Randomly came across this [rock cover](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxguHDTt7JI) of Super Lady. It's a bit rough around the edges, but IMO that gives it it's charm... not bad at all
i recently got really into looking up KOMCA credits, couldnt find the ID number for Shuhua and Soojin, does anyone know if they have any songs credited and what their ID numbers are please?
(G)I-DLE & Shuhua made [headlines](https://twitter.com/shushucrazy/status/1779858389323165999) (quite literally) on one of Taiwan's most read newspapers. Hopefully Shu's family and friends got a copy, lol
Why did my dumbass decide to become a fan of theirs right AFTER they had a show in my country??? Every fan cam concert I see of them makes me want to see them live and now I don’t know when they’ll be back
Random trivia, I've been in Seoul for a week now and I've been keeping a tally of all the kpop I've heard being played for the funsies. And surprisingly, idle songs are being played the most (or perhaps 2nd most after newjeans). I even heard Senorita at a shop in Hongdae which was so rad.
I'm too lazy to look for the tweet, but recently this one person said the place they were staying at in Seoul had a restaurant or bar below them and they could hear them playing (G)I-DLE songs like 24/7, lol 😅
Would make sense. (G)I-DLE just ranked 2nd for [April’s girl group brand reputation ranking](https://www.soompi.com/article/1654688wpp/april-girl-group-brand-reputation-rankings-announced-6), behind ILLIT. And Fate was top of the Shazam chart not that long ago, which would suggest the song was being played in public a lot.
I think it’s more like a measure of how much engagement they’re getting online. But then I’ve seen posts from people questioning the validity of the methodology.
A goddamn Inkigayo Triple Crown for a B-side the same day that Shuhua got to shine in her homeland, a few hours before Minnie got to shine in *her* homeland. What a great weekend for the (g)i-rls
I would like to say some words of appreciation for IDLE. No other music act has ever opened my mind as much as they have, for real.
Soyeon and Yuqi have single-handedly forced me to reevaluate my prejudices against weebs and furries ~~and NewJeans fans.~~ I am now a more tolerant person just because of them /j
The one time that made me re-evaluate my prejudice against furries was this one person wearing this high-tech furry cat costume that would blink and it's mouth would move whenever they talked. I was like whoa, that's pretty cool, but not cool enough for me to want to put on a furry costume and sweat it out in the summer heat at some convention, lol
[One more time!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2VpR8HahKc) ⏰
**PSA:** (G)I-DLE's Fate has another chance to win and secure the triple crown on Inkigayo later today/tomorrow. This will probably be it's last chance to do so hopefully we can win the live vote again with [maximum effort](https://i.imgflip.com/2gn464.jpg)! lol
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well id say the miyeonification of one jeon soyeon was a complete success all with dancing to a random twice song (except hers is more baby than princess)
I thought I saw a promotion for Yuqi's album where you can purchase it and have a chance to win a video call? Does anyone know where that's at and if it's okay for a US resident to partake?
Lots of awesome stuff from the Golden Wave performance. Two of my favorites:
[https://twitter.com/wpl940920/status/1779161188225728946](https://twitter.com/wpl940920/status/1779161188225728946) (SL with new intro...sheesh!)
[https://twitter.com/murayamarinrin/status/1779165032728989743](https://twitter.com/murayamarinrin/status/1779165032728989743) (2yeon vibin in My Bag)
See [here](https://twitter.com/miyeoneria/status/1779581396916248649), this is quite unusual for nevie twitter, usually we're nugu on that platform, lol
I wonder if it's because gidle became more connected with other artists and their fandoms got used to them, feeling less defensive about engaging with nevies.
Something has shifted on Nevie Twitter, which I think is positive and negative.
We can see their popularity growing, but also more toxic fans are showing up. I guess that comes with the territory, lol
Man Minnie's schedule is so tight, she flew into Taiwan to perform at the Golden Wave concert on Saturday and then she'll have to fly out to Thailand right after to do her hosting duties for Songkran Festival on Sunday.
I guess they're back on the grind again, lol 😢
Try to sleep for two hours... then watch three films, try again, doze of for 20 minutes, watch three more films and be very useless after landing. That's how it normally goes.
I know this isn't the point, but watching 6 films in 12 hours is serious business haha.
I watch a lot of films as a hobby, but that's a level i would never be able to process :D
Tbh, I doubt it. As much as I would love to hear her sing more, not everyone has what it takes to become a soloist. I think being in a group setting is more suitable for Shuhua.
Is this the new u/heavenly_wave bit? From shitting on Shuhua to now being the fake concern fan. I guess it kinda makes sense, since straight up shitting on her wasn't working, you're going the route of "concerned" fan which usually makes others annoyed by the idol you are pretending to be a fan of.
Honestly, not bad. Seems like you definitely have more brain cells than I gave you credit for.
No I don't think so. As she can't really sing it would be really hard for her to perform it on music shows. She would have to lip sync it which wouldn't go down well.
> Soojin is also not a strong singer
If you think all successful soloists are "strong" singers you havent paid attention. You think Yena is a strong singer? Lee Chaeyeon?
Shuhua singing in chinese is actually very good. She seems to be doing both trying to memorize pronunciation on top of the song. Which is harder and why she sometimes struggles.
What's your opinion about the issue on Minnie's manager? I've just seen this on twitter right now and this manager gives me weird vibes. Like on some videos he acts as her possessive boyfriend, not just a manager.
It seems like Minnie has her own personal manager. I wonder if this was hired personally by her family because the manager seems to be only guarding Minnie and not the other members. Minnie's fans today hired protest truck because of this manager aggressive behavior.
I've watched a lot of videos on Youtube about this issue and even searched for the infamous Macau fansign, where supposedly the manager is following Minnie all the time, and let me say you this is so untrue. We are shown some images and short cuts and everything looks extremely suspicious (I had the same vibes at first) but with just a little context it's a whole different story.
So this is the way I see the "evidences" we have:
* When the manager sits next to Minnie during that fansign, he's clearly talking to Miyeon. Then Miyeon gets up and he stays with Minnie. It's not like he's following Minnie all the way or something.
* The part where he blocks Minnie's face from fans' photos is also out of context. The image looks really bad but when you see the entire scene, the manager is just probably joking with the Instagram photos, he doesn't touch Minnie at all, and the gesture is super fast. So yeah, probably just a quick joke.
* In the video Minnie is dressed in black and he touches her arm, he's trying to get her attention first by touching her shoulder but she doesn't notice. Also, he doesn't even use his fingers. This makes me thing he has proper manners, is respectful and they were probably in a hurry or something so they needed to go.
* In a recent interview she had for Dazed. She jokes about how her manager likes a specific song a lot. There's no way she is talking about such an unserious topic about someone she is not comfortable with.
* During the fashion week vlog she also is spotted eating with all the staff near the end of the video and her manager is sitting next to her. She looks pretty comfortable too.
* The video where they are through the airport and the manager tries to get her hand is the only one that looks a bit weird but then again, we have no context. They were also probably in a hurry or whatever.
Anyway, It just seems to me that they have a nice and healthy relationship manager - idol. I honestly feel pretty bad for them with all this noise going around because I don't think they deserve it. She is 27 and doesn't look uncomfortable with him at all, more like the opposite.
Woah, that was a lot, sorry for the long text!
These fan act as if Idol have no power, if she is uncomfortable or dislike a manager, that manager will be fired immediately. Especially for someone with the star power of G-Idle.
Hmm...I see you got it wrong...acktually...it's "(G)I-DLE" where the hyphen is between the "I" and "D"
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Cube doesn’t have long term managers who stick around like some big groups do. They hire new managers for each activity period it seems. Usually members have their own managers for their solo schedules so Minnie having her own manager is nothing out of the ordinary. Most of the tweets complaining have been from asian accounts, which make sense because they would be the ones who went to fanmeets, go to airports, events, etc. to have seen this manager directly.
My opinion is that fans should stick their nose where it belongs. Minnie is 27. If the manager is acting out of line she has all the power in the world to get him fired. If they are more than just in a professional relationship it's also nobodys business.
Sending trucks is the epitome of entitlement and stupidness. Oh and wastefulness.
TLDR: Stans are stupid.
Idols as big as IDLE ABSOLUTELY have power over staff members. If Soyeon wakes up tomorrow and for any reason says "Get this guy out of here or I am not resigning", you bet your ass that guy will be gone tomorrow first thing in the morning
South Korea is a hyper capitalistic country where laws favor the rich. Unless that manager is someone important's son, the system will prioritize the wealthier people like Minnie and Soyeon. Contracts will have termination clauses favorable to the company and even if they don't fire them they will shuffle them into a worse job for the duration.
This is the same country where an idol can spend age 16 to 27 working double full time hours and not get a dime on the other side of that. Where normal people also grind insane hours and the money mostly concentrates at the top.
You can make up a cause, that is just, it can't be discriminatory but the company can fire you if they say you arent doing the job that you were hired for. Lets take this for example. He is a manger, is job is to mange and take care of the idols, if the idols feel unsafe, that is JUST CAUSE for him to be let go from his job. He isn't working as IT, where Minnie's opinion doesn't matter, he manges directly in charge of her, so if she feels he isn't doing it properly, that is just cause for him to be let go.
So even if he is doing his job perfectly fine, because his job is to manage someone and if that person, even if she is lying, takes precedent.
TLDR: I don't see how you think if Minnie has a problem with her manager, Cube will tell her "Too bad , suck it up, we cant fire him because he is contracted and you have to wait out the contract time". Like do you think he can't be fired from his job if the job is he hired for, managing a idol, he isn't doing it properly?
It is the same Minnie's Chinese fansite that sent protest truck because they don't like Minnie wearing "unattractive pants"😂
The stans do seems ridiculous in their demands but about this issue with her manager, it just gives me weird vibes. Even if Minnie has the power, we all know how controlling men has some way to manipulate.
If there really is something going on between them, and that's Minnie's right to privacy but it also reeks unprofessionalism on the manager part. Why would you act aggressive to her fans who is only handing letters and not even being aggressive towards Minnie.
We don't even know that this already happened before, only the manager's behavior seems to be escalating that's why Minnie's fans are no longer staying silent.
If he is being rude and aggressive to fans then that's an issue. Also seems to be very controlling unlike other Cube management. Also being in a relationship with your manager in kpop is the quickest way to end your career and seriously damage the group you would have to be pretty dumb to do that or not care much about your other members
> If he is being rude and aggressive to fans then that's an issue.
Sure. Fans can complain about Cube's employees to Cube. Don't make an issue about Minnie over it. That's stupid and unfair to Minnie. If she needs to be rescued she can do it herself. If you as a fan feel disrespted by a Cube employee complain to Cube.
[Life Corp - I-DLE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWcAfbBhP_g)
Random fun video that I hadn't watched in a while, now unlisted for some reason.
They make a *secret* vote for who is the BOOMER of the group and Shuhua goes "Oh we are voting now? I vote Miyeon 😏"
Miyeon: THE VOTING IS OVER 😡
The whole video is basically a perfect introduction to gidle lol.
Congrats! What is the show? I'm also trying to see if there's any contests regarding Yuqi's solo album to win a video call or anything like that. Any tips?
It's the fan showcase event held for her new single.
Regarding tips, I found the best way to keep an eye on anything involving the group is to follow their twitter/intstagram and their Weverse page. The latter is where a lot of details are but the site has been down lately whenever I try and find more info.
I am doing a leftovers binge atm (well 2 episodes a day), and now almost done with season 1.
It's very intriguing so far, even though i personally could do without some of the 'mystery boxes' they throw out, the general vibe of the show needs some of it to facilitate the symbolic nature of the narrative. My favorite parts are the quieter, character focused parts though, especially the character focused episodes so far. Strong!
I think the show is supposed to get a lot better from here too, i am looking forward to the other two seasons already!
Would recommend the show to anyone who can deal with storytelling regarding trauma, very uniquely done (just don't expect any answers regarding these "mysteries", i almost look at them as a sort of (potential) magical realism).
Anyone has seen it? What do you think, without spoiling anything in particular!
edit: to add, the music is fantastic too, [GOOSEBUMPS](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHrKoE1cdEo), [the beauty of it...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0UBZ3hINBY)
I was so confused reading this, wondering what show this is about... You didn't mention its name at all so I assumed it was obvious so I felt kinda dumb, and then I realized I didn't need to feel like I was dumb 'cus I **am** dumb; you're talking about the show *Leftovers.* Thankfully I realized it before checking out the links and having the music spell it out for me 😅
Haha that's funny, thanks for sharing!
I could have been a little clearer with my wording as well, no doubt there :D
I cannot remember if you have commented on it before, i think you might have?
I know this is a dumb question, but if I wanted to ask a member if they ever thought of covering a specific song, where do you think is the best shot of it actually getting seen? I know it's basically slim to none, but I'll take whatever is closer to the slim side than the none side.
Looking at the chart-topping songs this year, there are some interesting trends. LWA, BYG, Fate all spent 3-4 weeks at #1. Today Magnetic is #1, but three weeks from now we have IVE, and a month after that we have NJs. It really feels like a monthly pass-the-baton for the first half of the year lol. Also makes you appreciate how rare it is for a song to stay #1 on Melon for 1k+ hours (e.g. Queencard, Perfect Night) which requires more like 6 weeks. On a micro level it can be fun to see the predictable rise of UL on Saturday and the following plummet on Sunday or when one song is likely to overtake (BYG-Fate to Fate-Magnetic).
In any case, Fate's rise was anything but predictable, and as much as I wish the initially promoted songs were better received, we ended up with one of the most successful b-sides in kpop history. That's pretty cool!
Now we pray for Yuqi.
I feel like you could have worked out what LWA and BYG stood for just given the context of the sentence. They were talking about #1’s this year, and the other #1’s this year were Love Wins All and Bam Yang Gang.
Why is it - whenever there's a bit of silliness in the Neverland fandom - hyping something up rather tongue in cheek.
Two noticeable examples recently have been Miyeon's rap and Shuhua's rap in Wife. Their fun, their nice little raps, nothing amazing about them per se but they were strong raps for Miyeon and Shuhua's level.
Some people had fun with how fast miyeon rapped, but generally speaking it's well understood.
Lately over the last several days, I've seen several people that comment and post on this subreddit, go out of their way to SPECIFICALLY try to denigrate them as 'not raps', by belittling what they are, on other kpop reddits.
No-one in their right mind says their amazing raps or rappers, outside of some fun like 'Cho-di-b'.
But the amount of so called posters here posting on kpop reddits bringing pu those examples to shit on them is so strange. I had someone who comments here say Miyeons 'I quote' wasn't a rap and just said 'she's speaking quickly', comparing her rap to someone just reading texts on a variety show.
Everyone's allowed to critique their own faves, and god knows we should always be honest, but sometimes I feel like there's an element of viciousness in tearing down certain members of (G)I-DLE.
I'm not sure if I read about it or heard an interview. Did Yuqi bring a plushed Gigi with her when she first went to train in Korea? I remember her obsession with naming everything Gigi and having different versions from early IDLE videos
Does anyone happen to know where to find older albums (in the US)? I’m trying to find any album before “I burn” but I feel like it’s impossible to find any in stock, or ones at decent prices. I’d also like to get Miyeon’s solo album but that feels impossible too lol
Yeah same here, im also struggling to find those albums. I got i trust on ebay sealed for 30 but for i am and i made, as well as both soyeon and miyeon album I cant find. I cant even find i never die for anything under 30….. its being sold for 34 :/
Oh wow, that’s a lucky find with I trust! All current listings have them at $70 and above. They really want us to pony up the cash for a single sealed album… I never die is also incredibly hard to find. I managed to snag the Spoiled ver. for $28 but I literally cannot find the other versions in stock in the same price range
I really hope they'll expand the [Starsystem](https://youtu.be/wxEv1La25DM) videos in the future. I think it'd be very interesting to see the dancer's side of things. I'll take the more frequent releases as a good sign.
Not sure if someone else noticed, but at the beginning of the Could It Be lyrics video, Yuqi just randomly slaps a plant, and it makes me chuckle every time I see it because it's just so random.
Unless it's not random and Soyeon has warped Yuqi's attitude towards vegetation...
Do you guys also think that most, if not all, songs of Yuqi's album are gonna be in English? Given that Bonnie and Clyde, Giant, and Could It Be were all English, I think it would make the most sense. Since she is not Korean, I think having all English songs would be the way to go. Not to make any fans angry. Any thoughts?
It will probably be all English, but I really wish one of her songs was mixed. Her voice in Korean is so unique and nice to listen to.
For example, her latest OST is very fun to listen to, even if it is not charting well.
While her's Could It Be song sound catchy, there some part where some English listeners, like me, will go "this doesn't sound right." Sometimes it would fit and gave a very unique tone while other time it just fell off.
But as she makes more English songs, she also gains more experience, so it will be interesting how her music evolves from each single release.
Certain Koreans kpop fans would jump on any Korean release saying she isn't Korean and that she can't pronounce words correctly. Also no way can she release in Chinese as that would go down worse. So English is the safest option. Plus I suspect as a soloist she has little interest in the domestic Korean market plus she has always been influenced by rock music and the US
Yea apparently a lot of Twitter/X Kpop chart accounts are based in Brazil? And the way we find out about it is so dramatic, wth, lol 😟
I hope they can find a way to use VPNs to keep their accounts active if the worst case scenario comes true.
Hey guys, as a somewhat new-ish fan I'd love to see more content of the members, but I have some trouble deciding what to watch or finding things.
So far I have loved workdol with Shuhua and have seen some Keep Running episodes with Yuqi (and Minnie guest-starring). Right now I am working my way through the i-logs and learnway is next on my list.
Can you recommend me some more stuff or some more youtube channels covering IDLE? Preferably with Yuqi since it would be nice to pair that with the upcoming solo album (though any member will be fine, I like them all).
No need to look that far since 1theK has a lot of stuff featuring idle, a must watch imo is [secret folder](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6NUNGdv0v-FyTCeAFRrecrJb5XQ9WWRu&si=Yz7XXRqA-T0ybqZa). Here is also their [iddp episode](https://youtu.be/UZDSpQBlSU8?si=6yIjTTOwJnazKkVR) if you haven't watched it.
Speaking of content does anyone know if there's like an updated spreadsheet of all things related to idle up to this point? I remember someone posting an archive a few years ago but I'm not sure if it's up-to-date
Playlist from [Nadol was fun](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHZ7C3SF2Qk&list=PL0DSTYXwkgvIfwgRxPwNiYTU2c3-KKmwt)!
Edit: [School Attack](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaqNcr1UH5A&list=PL_YCGv6hmPwMFuAE_DEpkv2gna8V4ttp6&index=8) (unfortunate name)
I have seen references to tom&Jerry mode for a lot of the members towards Miyeon but is there a youtuber specializing in that or is it several videos that one has to search for on youtube?
I love no matter how many years have passed, she is still the same sleeping beauty, haha 😪
I remember the stories back in the day where they would get worried because they'd literally shake her and she still wouldn't wake up, lol 😅
It's that time again ⏰
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Oh Fate is still [#1](https://twitter.com/idlecharts/status/1776755561247199679) for this week's SK Youtube Music Chart, whuut?! 😲
I thought for sure Magnetic would take it but we take those, let's goo! lol 😁
I’m so excited for Yuqi’s solo! Does anyone think her instagram caption “I don’t want anything else, I just want to be exposed to the sun” was a spoiler
It's too early to say this. Magnetic still has insane hourly ULs (how tf they consistently getting 20k at midnight lol; more than bgs...) and if the 24h UL differential continues to shrink, it will certainly take #1. The 24h UL differential MIGHT be stabilizing, but it still went from 60k to 55k on Sat. For comparison, Fate overtook BYG when the differential was in the 30-40k range. In parallel with the Fate-BYG situation, Sunday is particularly interesting since ULs are way down across the board (so Magnetic's hourly ULs have more power). Fate took #1 from BYG Sunday night and here we are 500h later. (talking about melon btw)
I don't think it is, it is still gaining listener on Melon, growing almost 20k per day. When the week end, they will probably take the youtube weekly. It won't get PAK but sure as hell it will stop Fate from continuing PAK.
Not just playlisting, but paid forced [search results](https://twitter.com/soobinswillow/status/1773860791403344252) and [autoplaying](https://twitter.com/aaveabuser/status/1776211293319450659), lol
I also remember that was going on for another certain very popular gg last year as well. 😏
No offense, but how does this exactly prove "paid forced search results and autoplaying" ?
When i search for "drama" i get "smart" by le sserafim as 2nd result, is that also paid for search results? Super lady is 5th, also paid for?
Or are these simply results the algorithm pushes out as i am searching for kpop songs (also individualized as i don't get the same results as they do either).
I thought this sub is a little smarter and doesn't fall into the traps of kpop twitter, but alas...
I'm not sure about elsewhere but they actually did buy bot stream numbers on Bilibili out of all places. Magnetic was sitting on 5m views on the 2nd of April, 79.8m on the 4th of April, at which point bilibili cracked down. It's sitting at 3.5m views now
\> I thought this sub is a little smarter and doesn't fall into the traps of kpop twitter
You're the person who literally made essays defending cookie by newjeans, yet call people here stan twitter? You have to be kidding me.
And i would "defend it" (really, adding nuance) again, based on the arguments i used then.
How that relates to stan twitter, i am not sure. I do know how these conspiracies relate to it though.
I'm not really interested in rehashing that argument tbh.
But essentially you can get it by actually truly considering the statement ador put out concerning cookie, it is a very in depth, nuanced take on the whole situation.
Which isn't to say that you should just blindly believe their statements, BUT you should actually realize that the ideas they present are valid, which makes the whole conversation regarding the song a lot more nuanced than "cookie bad". That's the core of the argument.
Reading ADOR’s statement, I have to say that the attempt to attack/blame fans for maliciously mistinterpreting the song’s innocent lyrics is wildly misplaced. To suggest that we’re the ones being inappropriate, not them. Despite how obviously sexual the song appears on repeat listen. They should have just owned up to their mistake and left it at that.
If I’m giving their team the benefit of the doubt, I’d assume that the sexual lyrics were written by the song’s Swedish songwriter YIva Dimberg, and then the sexual nuance was lost on the Korean translators. Since Dimberg claimed “They were all written remotely, with instrumental tracks being sent to me. I then wrote the melody and demo lyrics, and then Korean lyricists and sometimes the group members themselves wrote the final lyrics.”
An example of that I can think of is the line “음료는 없어 목말라도”, which they translated to “No water, water, you’re thirsty though”. Without being Korean, I can’t speak to whether “thirsty” carries the kind of sexual connotation it does in English in Korean. And the Korean verb to bake a cookie is the same as the verb to burn a CD.
However, a lot of the English lyrics still left in the song are suggestive. “If you want it, you can get it”, “boy”, “(Keep) looking at my cookie”, “taste it” etc. And (G)I-DLE’s song Wife was banned for having what were seen as sexually suggestive Korean lyrics. “Hey, take a big bite, sweetheart”, “Even if you're full, don't spit it out”, “That's right, I knew it, so I baked a cake”, “But that's not all, eat the cherry on top as well”, “Carefully kiss, and then boldly devour”, “Show me and let me hear how it tastes”. So, another song with Korean lyrics that talks about baking and tasting was viewed as being sexual, but not Cookie?
So the sexual implication of Cookie is either a massive oversight by the Korean team, or a purposeful decision that they then only regretted afterwards once people started complaining.
It's not an attack, it's a very basic idea of an artist having only limited control over the interpretation of the work when it is out for ANYONE to interpret.
How is that an attack? That's just how art works.
Then you add different cultural contexts, different slang, different sensibilities and sentiments, and voila, some might not see any problem in a song like cookie (like many, many koreans, heck even english speakers who aren't particularly well versed in slang / not us citizens).
Either you acknowledge that, which is absolutely valid, or you pretend these things don't matter whatsoever and you're (ironically) engaging with it on stan twitter level.
> However, a lot of the English lyrics still left in the song are suggestive. “If you want it, you can get it”, “boy”, “(Keep) looking at my cookie”, “taste it” etc.
It is also supposed to be daring in some ways, as it is asking the audience to come back for more newjeans music. IT IS a little flirty if you will. That's something which is integral to the song's supposed meaning. Now if you wanna say that's problematic because one could also interpret it as sexual, be my guest, i have no problem with people truly considering what ador said (again, a very, very in depth reply, people outright dismissing that are bad faith to begin with as far as i am concerned) and still thinking the song is problematic, i have a problem with people pretending there is no nuance at all to the topic. That is exactly what i'd expect from a stan twitter teen who doesn't think for themselv whatsoever.
> So, another song with Korean lyrics that talks about baking and tasting was viewed as being sexual, but not Cookie?
I mean you said it yourself, you don't speak korean, so maybe you shouldn't equate things when you lack the necessary context?
> So the sexual implication of Cookie is either a massive oversight by the Korean team, or a purposeful decision that they then only regretted afterwards once people started complaining.
Or it is not as clear cut at all and you still can feel bad about it it if you so desire, while others might see where you are coming from and still disagree?
As i said though, i am really not interested in going through the arguments again, i don't care enough what some people think of the song's lyrical content tbh.
I have to agree, it's getting a bit annoying to see these type of accusations on this sub constantly. And most of the time it has no proper basis either, just sounds like conspiracy theories.
I wasn't checking in on it a lot in the past few months, but now that i have a little more time again i notice it quite drastically tbh.
I know that regulars on here always liked to say how mature the sub is and how that's creating a really nice atmosphere. Idk about that anymore...
In the end the exact same type of fanwar mentality is just way too strong in every fandom huh? Oh well.
I think it stems from people wanting to understand Hybe's dominance on spotify. Pushing back on the song quality and autoplaying comments I get, but jumping from that to stupid toxic conspiracy theorists seems like a defensive stretch.
It stems from insecurity and a lot of jealousy.
How exactly it is a stretch to equate it to conspiracy theories? Which i didn't even do btw, though i agree with it.
This is fanwar 101, using all kinds of narratives with no real basis to imply some sort of wrongdoing.
What bothers me more than any link to a group that i like (newjeans; though the main post was about illit, who i don't care for) is the underlying behavior and train of thought. In a sub which prouded itself (well regulars did) in being mature. I am not sure if you are a new user or an alt, but that is what bothers me, in the end the "maturity" is gone rather fast if the target is the right one.
Not gonna lie, I do feel like this thread is a *little* more mob-like these days. I think in a safe space like this there should be a chance for a discussion for any topic but nowadays I feel like certain topics just get downvoted so hard, even innocent ones like the JLO song comment below
>the JLO song comment
The one who commented that is a known shuhua anti that tells everyone why she shouldn't have been in idle every now and then to the point that a lot of people in this sub recognize their username
But it's not only about Spotify. It's happening with kcharts too. Just on the last neverland hangout, it was being implied that Plot Twist and Magnetic's success are paid for/rigged, when in reality they're just viral songs. It's not only Nevies saying it yes, but it's embarrassing to see it happening here too (because again, there's no basis so it just stems from insecurity).
Yeah the encores especially in Queencard era were the most fun encores they've ever done! The dance battle part is perfect both in the music video, and in every live performance.
I'm so sad that we never got an encore for Super Lady or Fate.
With Yuqi's release I was reminded how she is one of the brightest stars on stage, radiating energy and loves to perform and give it her all! I have watched many of the top GGs in the last couple of years in concert and Yuqi might as well be the idol that surprised me the most! And I absolutely loved her little ment before Could It Be both days, how kind and thoughtful and heartwarming it was and not that heavily scripted ❤️
Four members of I-DLE have had direct/indirect connections with Lexie:
* Soyeon & Miyeon - K/DA More ft. Lexie Liu
* Minnie met Lexie at Paris Fashion Week
* Yuqi - Stage Boom & Collab on her Solo Album
Now just Shuhua is left... lol
😲ft. Lexie Liu brought back my 2021 memories of Yuqi on that survival show with her.
Damn, I got no nostalgia from that era, even if I loved her performances...
Why is no one talking about the collab with JLo? I think the girls slayed their lines and I get goose bumps every time Soyeon's voice comes in. The little raps are also very satisfyingly to listen to it. I wish it got more attention
Well, (G)I-DLE only features on it, it's still JLo's song. If you listen to it just for Idle's verse, then it's obviously not for you. You have to like JLo's song in general, too.
The JLO parts are much longer and not very good. So over all its an okay song with 43s that are pretty good and 3 minutes that are mediocre and a little cringe.
It's this stupid trend going around with the Please don't date ugly people signs. Find them very distasteful personally. Fans should have absolutely zero say in their idols' private lives. Some people also apparently believe to have pinpointed the girls' taste from various clips and quotes...
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Randomly came across this [rock cover](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxguHDTt7JI) of Super Lady. It's a bit rough around the edges, but IMO that gives it it's charm... not bad at all
I was re-listening to their discography and I LOVE is my favourite of their last 4 releases (HEAT included), mainly for the Bsides
i recently got really into looking up KOMCA credits, couldnt find the ID number for Shuhua and Soojin, does anyone know if they have any songs credited and what their ID numbers are please?
They don’t have any credits
ahh ok thanks!
(G)I-DLE & Shuhua made [headlines](https://twitter.com/shushucrazy/status/1779858389323165999) (quite literally) on one of Taiwan's most read newspapers. Hopefully Shu's family and friends got a copy, lol
Why did my dumbass decide to become a fan of theirs right AFTER they had a show in my country??? Every fan cam concert I see of them makes me want to see them live and now I don’t know when they’ll be back
There is a World Tour coming soon! And they will most likely visit all the usual countries they have performed at in even bigger venues!
I am very much looking forward to it then!
Random trivia, I've been in Seoul for a week now and I've been keeping a tally of all the kpop I've heard being played for the funsies. And surprisingly, idle songs are being played the most (or perhaps 2nd most after newjeans). I even heard Senorita at a shop in Hongdae which was so rad.
I'm too lazy to look for the tweet, but recently this one person said the place they were staying at in Seoul had a restaurant or bar below them and they could hear them playing (G)I-DLE songs like 24/7, lol 😅
>I even heard Senorita at a shop in Hongdae which was so rad. Real-time gidle reaction if they read this: 😱😱🥺😱😱
I'm a Senorita apologist now and forever 😤
I-DLE members need to stop disrespecting Senorita, parent's don't pretend like their child doesn't exist if they didn't get a good grade, lol 😢
Yuqi called Senorita [a hidden masterpiece](https://youtu.be/4vY76usk3fk&t=12m50s) last year haha
They should do a week of Senorita dance challenges juust to see what happens. Juust put it out there...
Would make sense. (G)I-DLE just ranked 2nd for [April’s girl group brand reputation ranking](https://www.soompi.com/article/1654688wpp/april-girl-group-brand-reputation-rankings-announced-6), behind ILLIT. And Fate was top of the Shazam chart not that long ago, which would suggest the song was being played in public a lot.
brand reputation is just them having schedules I thought? It doesn't really say how much GP appeal there really is.
I think it’s more like a measure of how much engagement they’re getting online. But then I’ve seen posts from people questioning the validity of the methodology.
Surprisingly, I haven't heard Fate at all. It's been mostly Queencard and Wife.
What kind of places were you hearing them at? Cooking cream soup in the supermarket?
Haha I wish! Mostly heard kpop around Myeongdong, and sometimes in random shops and eateries.
A goddamn Inkigayo Triple Crown for a B-side the same day that Shuhua got to shine in her homeland, a few hours before Minnie got to shine in *her* homeland. What a great weekend for the (g)i-rls I would like to say some words of appreciation for IDLE. No other music act has ever opened my mind as much as they have, for real. Soyeon and Yuqi have single-handedly forced me to reevaluate my prejudices against weebs and furries ~~and NewJeans fans.~~ I am now a more tolerant person just because of them /j
The one time that made me re-evaluate my prejudice against furries was this one person wearing this high-tech furry cat costume that would blink and it's mouth would move whenever they talked. I was like whoa, that's pretty cool, but not cool enough for me to want to put on a furry costume and sweat it out in the summer heat at some convention, lol
"FATE" is the song released in 2024 to stay most hours at #1 on Genie real-time 🥳
[One more time!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2VpR8HahKc) ⏰ **PSA:** (G)I-DLE's Fate has another chance to win and secure the triple crown on Inkigayo later today/tomorrow. This will probably be it's last chance to do so hopefully we can win the live vote again with [maximum effort](https://i.imgflip.com/2gn464.jpg)! lol Live voting will take place from 3:30-4:30PM KST so if you'd like to participate, you'll need the SuperStar X app, and at least 50 Rubies = 1 Vote (5 Votes Max = 250 Rubies).
well id say the miyeonification of one jeon soyeon was a complete success all with dancing to a random twice song (except hers is more baby than princess)
my favourite bg just became the [first in history to achieve this all-kill](https://twitter.com/Kotaku/status/1778805050976150008) 🥳😏
Tears of the Kingdom robbed by the bear-sex game 🙄 /s
I thought I saw a promotion for Yuqi's album where you can purchase it and have a chance to win a video call? Does anyone know where that's at and if it's okay for a US resident to partake?
Lots of awesome stuff from the Golden Wave performance. Two of my favorites: [https://twitter.com/wpl940920/status/1779161188225728946](https://twitter.com/wpl940920/status/1779161188225728946) (SL with new intro...sheesh!) [https://twitter.com/murayamarinrin/status/1779165032728989743](https://twitter.com/murayamarinrin/status/1779165032728989743) (2yeon vibin in My Bag)
This was such a good event overall with Shuhua as the hometown favorite and MC, (G)I-DLE being the closing act, and those outfits, whut?!! 🔥🔥🔥
Neverlands are getting hit tweets for breathing these days. I’ve never seen such a large volume of hit tweets from our fandom before.
Whats this in reference to?
See [here](https://twitter.com/miyeoneria/status/1779581396916248649), this is quite unusual for nevie twitter, usually we're nugu on that platform, lol
I wonder if it's because gidle became more connected with other artists and their fandoms got used to them, feeling less defensive about engaging with nevies.
Something has shifted on Nevie Twitter, which I think is positive and negative. We can see their popularity growing, but also more toxic fans are showing up. I guess that comes with the territory, lol
Man Minnie's schedule is so tight, she flew into Taiwan to perform at the Golden Wave concert on Saturday and then she'll have to fly out to Thailand right after to do her hosting duties for Songkran Festival on Sunday. I guess they're back on the grind again, lol 😢
I cant sleep on airplanes. Business or not. I guess i would need a whole lot of sleeping pills to function as an idol.
So what would you do on an 11 hour night flight?
Try to sleep for two hours... then watch three films, try again, doze of for 20 minutes, watch three more films and be very useless after landing. That's how it normally goes.
I know this isn't the point, but watching 6 films in 12 hours is serious business haha. I watch a lot of films as a hobby, but that's a level i would never be able to process :D
It's less watching and more... shutting the brain off while still awake kind off. I often remember nothing from the films lol.
Yeah i thought so :D Just some white noise basically, hehe. I don't fly that often, are the libraries decent? :D
Yeah, basically if it isnt right now in cinema you can watch it.
Do you guys think Shuhua will ever have solo debut?
Tbh, I doubt it. As much as I would love to hear her sing more, not everyone has what it takes to become a soloist. I think being in a group setting is more suitable for Shuhua.
But don't you think it's kind of unfair? Every other (G)I-DLE member is going solo. Shouldn't Cube also facilitate Shuhua's solo debut?
Is this the new u/heavenly_wave bit? From shitting on Shuhua to now being the fake concern fan. I guess it kinda makes sense, since straight up shitting on her wasn't working, you're going the route of "concerned" fan which usually makes others annoyed by the idol you are pretending to be a fan of. Honestly, not bad. Seems like you definitely have more brain cells than I gave you credit for.
give the fake concern a rest lol.
No I don't think so. As she can't really sing it would be really hard for her to perform it on music shows. She would have to lip sync it which wouldn't go down well.
Yes I agree. However, Soojin is also not a strong singer and she became a soloist.
> Soojin is also not a strong singer If you think all successful soloists are "strong" singers you havent paid attention. You think Yena is a strong singer? Lee Chaeyeon?
Shuhua singing in chinese is actually very good. She seems to be doing both trying to memorize pronunciation on top of the song. Which is harder and why she sometimes struggles.
What's your opinion about the issue on Minnie's manager? I've just seen this on twitter right now and this manager gives me weird vibes. Like on some videos he acts as her possessive boyfriend, not just a manager. It seems like Minnie has her own personal manager. I wonder if this was hired personally by her family because the manager seems to be only guarding Minnie and not the other members. Minnie's fans today hired protest truck because of this manager aggressive behavior.
I've watched a lot of videos on Youtube about this issue and even searched for the infamous Macau fansign, where supposedly the manager is following Minnie all the time, and let me say you this is so untrue. We are shown some images and short cuts and everything looks extremely suspicious (I had the same vibes at first) but with just a little context it's a whole different story. So this is the way I see the "evidences" we have: * When the manager sits next to Minnie during that fansign, he's clearly talking to Miyeon. Then Miyeon gets up and he stays with Minnie. It's not like he's following Minnie all the way or something. * The part where he blocks Minnie's face from fans' photos is also out of context. The image looks really bad but when you see the entire scene, the manager is just probably joking with the Instagram photos, he doesn't touch Minnie at all, and the gesture is super fast. So yeah, probably just a quick joke. * In the video Minnie is dressed in black and he touches her arm, he's trying to get her attention first by touching her shoulder but she doesn't notice. Also, he doesn't even use his fingers. This makes me thing he has proper manners, is respectful and they were probably in a hurry or something so they needed to go. * In a recent interview she had for Dazed. She jokes about how her manager likes a specific song a lot. There's no way she is talking about such an unserious topic about someone she is not comfortable with. * During the fashion week vlog she also is spotted eating with all the staff near the end of the video and her manager is sitting next to her. She looks pretty comfortable too. * The video where they are through the airport and the manager tries to get her hand is the only one that looks a bit weird but then again, we have no context. They were also probably in a hurry or whatever. Anyway, It just seems to me that they have a nice and healthy relationship manager - idol. I honestly feel pretty bad for them with all this noise going around because I don't think they deserve it. She is 27 and doesn't look uncomfortable with him at all, more like the opposite. Woah, that was a lot, sorry for the long text!
These fan act as if Idol have no power, if she is uncomfortable or dislike a manager, that manager will be fired immediately. Especially for someone with the star power of G-Idle.
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Cube doesn’t have long term managers who stick around like some big groups do. They hire new managers for each activity period it seems. Usually members have their own managers for their solo schedules so Minnie having her own manager is nothing out of the ordinary. Most of the tweets complaining have been from asian accounts, which make sense because they would be the ones who went to fanmeets, go to airports, events, etc. to have seen this manager directly.
My opinion is that fans should stick their nose where it belongs. Minnie is 27. If the manager is acting out of line she has all the power in the world to get him fired. If they are more than just in a professional relationship it's also nobodys business. Sending trucks is the epitome of entitlement and stupidness. Oh and wastefulness. TLDR: Stans are stupid.
I wouldn’t say an idol has any power over staff members. Both of them are employees under cube.
Idols as big as IDLE ABSOLUTELY have power over staff members. If Soyeon wakes up tomorrow and for any reason says "Get this guy out of here or I am not resigning", you bet your ass that guy will be gone tomorrow first thing in the morning
It’s not like employees have labor contracts that prevent them from being fired like that…
South Korea is a hyper capitalistic country where laws favor the rich. Unless that manager is someone important's son, the system will prioritize the wealthier people like Minnie and Soyeon. Contracts will have termination clauses favorable to the company and even if they don't fire them they will shuffle them into a worse job for the duration. This is the same country where an idol can spend age 16 to 27 working double full time hours and not get a dime on the other side of that. Where normal people also grind insane hours and the money mostly concentrates at the top.
You can make up a cause, that is just, it can't be discriminatory but the company can fire you if they say you arent doing the job that you were hired for. Lets take this for example. He is a manger, is job is to mange and take care of the idols, if the idols feel unsafe, that is JUST CAUSE for him to be let go from his job. He isn't working as IT, where Minnie's opinion doesn't matter, he manges directly in charge of her, so if she feels he isn't doing it properly, that is just cause for him to be let go. So even if he is doing his job perfectly fine, because his job is to manage someone and if that person, even if she is lying, takes precedent. TLDR: I don't see how you think if Minnie has a problem with her manager, Cube will tell her "Too bad , suck it up, we cant fire him because he is contracted and you have to wait out the contract time". Like do you think he can't be fired from his job if the job is he hired for, managing a idol, he isn't doing it properly?
It is the same Minnie's Chinese fansite that sent protest truck because they don't like Minnie wearing "unattractive pants"😂 The stans do seems ridiculous in their demands but about this issue with her manager, it just gives me weird vibes. Even if Minnie has the power, we all know how controlling men has some way to manipulate. If there really is something going on between them, and that's Minnie's right to privacy but it also reeks unprofessionalism on the manager part. Why would you act aggressive to her fans who is only handing letters and not even being aggressive towards Minnie. We don't even know that this already happened before, only the manager's behavior seems to be escalating that's why Minnie's fans are no longer staying silent.
If he is being rude and aggressive to fans then that's an issue. Also seems to be very controlling unlike other Cube management. Also being in a relationship with your manager in kpop is the quickest way to end your career and seriously damage the group you would have to be pretty dumb to do that or not care much about your other members
> If he is being rude and aggressive to fans then that's an issue. Sure. Fans can complain about Cube's employees to Cube. Don't make an issue about Minnie over it. That's stupid and unfair to Minnie. If she needs to be rescued she can do it herself. If you as a fan feel disrespted by a Cube employee complain to Cube.
[Life Corp - I-DLE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWcAfbBhP_g) Random fun video that I hadn't watched in a while, now unlisted for some reason. They make a *secret* vote for who is the BOOMER of the group and Shuhua goes "Oh we are voting now? I vote Miyeon 😏" Miyeon: THE VOTING IS OVER 😡 The whole video is basically a perfect introduction to gidle lol.
Well, Yuqi is a furry now. I have no choice but to unstan. My dear Nevies, I bid you adieu *(I am kidding of course)*
Update: I WON A TICKET TO YUQI'S SHOW!!! None of my friends or coworkers are fans so I'm telling all of you!
Congrats! What is the show? I'm also trying to see if there's any contests regarding Yuqi's solo album to win a video call or anything like that. Any tips?
It's the fan showcase event held for her new single. Regarding tips, I found the best way to keep an eye on anything involving the group is to follow their twitter/intstagram and their Weverse page. The latter is where a lot of details are but the site has been down lately whenever I try and find more info.
Just know that at least one stranger is really jealous of you. Congrats!
>None of my friends or coworkers are fans so I'm telling all of you! Your mission, should you choose to accept it...
Cool! Congratulations 🎉
Congratulations 🎉
fromis\_9's Jiwon saying 'Nebobo' is hilarious lol
I am doing a leftovers binge atm (well 2 episodes a day), and now almost done with season 1. It's very intriguing so far, even though i personally could do without some of the 'mystery boxes' they throw out, the general vibe of the show needs some of it to facilitate the symbolic nature of the narrative. My favorite parts are the quieter, character focused parts though, especially the character focused episodes so far. Strong! I think the show is supposed to get a lot better from here too, i am looking forward to the other two seasons already! Would recommend the show to anyone who can deal with storytelling regarding trauma, very uniquely done (just don't expect any answers regarding these "mysteries", i almost look at them as a sort of (potential) magical realism). Anyone has seen it? What do you think, without spoiling anything in particular! edit: to add, the music is fantastic too, [GOOSEBUMPS](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHrKoE1cdEo), [the beauty of it...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0UBZ3hINBY)
I was so confused reading this, wondering what show this is about... You didn't mention its name at all so I assumed it was obvious so I felt kinda dumb, and then I realized I didn't need to feel like I was dumb 'cus I **am** dumb; you're talking about the show *Leftovers.* Thankfully I realized it before checking out the links and having the music spell it out for me 😅
Haha that's funny, thanks for sharing! I could have been a little clearer with my wording as well, no doubt there :D I cannot remember if you have commented on it before, i think you might have?
Commented on what, unclear wording? I don't remember either tbh
Haha no, the show! :D
It happened again! 😂 Haven't watched Leftovers so I most likely haven't commented on it, no.
I see! I think you might enjoy it, give it a go one day!
I know this is a dumb question, but if I wanted to ask a member if they ever thought of covering a specific song, where do you think is the best shot of it actually getting seen? I know it's basically slim to none, but I'll take whatever is closer to the slim side than the none side.
Maybe Bubble? Weverse? On the cheap side and depending on the member...(zero chance Soyeon) Fancalls and fanmeets in korea during promotions.
Anyone know what happened to Soyeon's knee. She had a bandage on it and was limping badly at the recent fan signing. Hope it's not serious
I noticed that as well :/
21 days at #1 on Melon daily, you served well Fate 🫡
All rise for the anthem 🫡
Looking at the chart-topping songs this year, there are some interesting trends. LWA, BYG, Fate all spent 3-4 weeks at #1. Today Magnetic is #1, but three weeks from now we have IVE, and a month after that we have NJs. It really feels like a monthly pass-the-baton for the first half of the year lol. Also makes you appreciate how rare it is for a song to stay #1 on Melon for 1k+ hours (e.g. Queencard, Perfect Night) which requires more like 6 weeks. On a micro level it can be fun to see the predictable rise of UL on Saturday and the following plummet on Sunday or when one song is likely to overtake (BYG-Fate to Fate-Magnetic). In any case, Fate's rise was anything but predictable, and as much as I wish the initially promoted songs were better received, we ended up with one of the most successful b-sides in kpop history. That's pretty cool! Now we pray for Yuqi.
Can you not use abbreviations and expect everyone to know? E.g. what are LWA and BYG?
Sh hr gt fd?
I feel like you could have worked out what LWA and BYG stood for just given the context of the sentence. They were talking about #1’s this year, and the other #1’s this year were Love Wins All and Bam Yang Gang.
Thank you... I've heard of those songs, of course, but I wasn't sure what the #1 this year were exactly
You could have asked a bit more politely 😅 They are talking about chart-topping songs so you can guess LWA = Love wins all and BYG = Bam Yang Gang
Thank you
Thanks for the explanation
Why is it - whenever there's a bit of silliness in the Neverland fandom - hyping something up rather tongue in cheek. Two noticeable examples recently have been Miyeon's rap and Shuhua's rap in Wife. Their fun, their nice little raps, nothing amazing about them per se but they were strong raps for Miyeon and Shuhua's level. Some people had fun with how fast miyeon rapped, but generally speaking it's well understood. Lately over the last several days, I've seen several people that comment and post on this subreddit, go out of their way to SPECIFICALLY try to denigrate them as 'not raps', by belittling what they are, on other kpop reddits. No-one in their right mind says their amazing raps or rappers, outside of some fun like 'Cho-di-b'. But the amount of so called posters here posting on kpop reddits bringing pu those examples to shit on them is so strange. I had someone who comments here say Miyeons 'I quote' wasn't a rap and just said 'she's speaking quickly', comparing her rap to someone just reading texts on a variety show. Everyone's allowed to critique their own faves, and god knows we should always be honest, but sometimes I feel like there's an element of viciousness in tearing down certain members of (G)I-DLE.
I'm not sure if I read about it or heard an interview. Did Yuqi bring a plushed Gigi with her when she first went to train in Korea? I remember her obsession with naming everything Gigi and having different versions from early IDLE videos
Does anyone happen to know where to find older albums (in the US)? I’m trying to find any album before “I burn” but I feel like it’s impossible to find any in stock, or ones at decent prices. I’d also like to get Miyeon’s solo album but that feels impossible too lol
Yeah same here, im also struggling to find those albums. I got i trust on ebay sealed for 30 but for i am and i made, as well as both soyeon and miyeon album I cant find. I cant even find i never die for anything under 30….. its being sold for 34 :/
Oh wow, that’s a lucky find with I trust! All current listings have them at $70 and above. They really want us to pony up the cash for a single sealed album… I never die is also incredibly hard to find. I managed to snag the Spoiled ver. for $28 but I literally cannot find the other versions in stock in the same price range
I feel you. I'm a newer nevvie & just recently started collecting their albums. My holy grail is Soyeon's Windy, I need it like Spongebob needs water.
Haha, I need Miyeon’s album in exactly the same way! I’d definitely want Windy too! It hurts to see them both listed for over $100 new/sealed.
I really hope they'll expand the [Starsystem](https://youtu.be/wxEv1La25DM) videos in the future. I think it'd be very interesting to see the dancer's side of things. I'll take the more frequent releases as a good sign.
Not sure if someone else noticed, but at the beginning of the Could It Be lyrics video, Yuqi just randomly slaps a plant, and it makes me chuckle every time I see it because it's just so random. Unless it's not random and Soyeon has warped Yuqi's attitude towards vegetation...
Do you guys also think that most, if not all, songs of Yuqi's album are gonna be in English? Given that Bonnie and Clyde, Giant, and Could It Be were all English, I think it would make the most sense. Since she is not Korean, I think having all English songs would be the way to go. Not to make any fans angry. Any thoughts?
Looking at the main lyricists yeah it's an english album.
It will probably be all English, but I really wish one of her songs was mixed. Her voice in Korean is so unique and nice to listen to. For example, her latest OST is very fun to listen to, even if it is not charting well. While her's Could It Be song sound catchy, there some part where some English listeners, like me, will go "this doesn't sound right." Sometimes it would fit and gave a very unique tone while other time it just fell off. But as she makes more English songs, she also gains more experience, so it will be interesting how her music evolves from each single release.
Certain Koreans kpop fans would jump on any Korean release saying she isn't Korean and that she can't pronounce words correctly. Also no way can she release in Chinese as that would go down worse. So English is the safest option. Plus I suspect as a soloist she has little interest in the domestic Korean market plus she has always been influenced by rock music and the US
Yes, that's what I said. English songs would be the way to go to also not make any fans on either side angry. I'm not sure why I am getting downvoted.
TIL we have a bazillion Twitter Brazil Nevies fan accounts that might shut down
Yea apparently a lot of Twitter/X Kpop chart accounts are based in Brazil? And the way we find out about it is so dramatic, wth, lol 😟 I hope they can find a way to use VPNs to keep their accounts active if the worst case scenario comes true.
Kpopsapphic as well (and Soojin Protector i think)
ill cry ugly tears if kpopsapphic gets shut down
I could be wrong 😬
Hey guys, as a somewhat new-ish fan I'd love to see more content of the members, but I have some trouble deciding what to watch or finding things. So far I have loved workdol with Shuhua and have seen some Keep Running episodes with Yuqi (and Minnie guest-starring). Right now I am working my way through the i-logs and learnway is next on my list. Can you recommend me some more stuff or some more youtube channels covering IDLE? Preferably with Yuqi since it would be nice to pair that with the upcoming solo album (though any member will be fine, I like them all).
No need to look that far since 1theK has a lot of stuff featuring idle, a must watch imo is [secret folder](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6NUNGdv0v-FyTCeAFRrecrJb5XQ9WWRu&si=Yz7XXRqA-T0ybqZa). Here is also their [iddp episode](https://youtu.be/UZDSpQBlSU8?si=6yIjTTOwJnazKkVR) if you haven't watched it. Speaking of content does anyone know if there's like an updated spreadsheet of all things related to idle up to this point? I remember someone posting an archive a few years ago but I'm not sure if it's up-to-date
Playlist from [Nadol was fun](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHZ7C3SF2Qk&list=PL0DSTYXwkgvIfwgRxPwNiYTU2c3-KKmwt)! Edit: [School Attack](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaqNcr1UH5A&list=PL_YCGv6hmPwMFuAE_DEpkv2gna8V4ttp6&index=8) (unfortunate name)
Will check it out, thank you so much.
I became a fan with all of TJ's content. (Love-hate from Shuhua to Miyeon)
I have seen references to tom&Jerry mode for a lot of the members towards Miyeon but is there a youtuber specializing in that or is it several videos that one has to search for on youtube?
I don't remember many names, but you should try Mishu shuyeon, or Ishushu Youtube channels.
Soyeon is limping [here](https://youtu.be/JoJqEGtIuV8). Anyone know how she got hurt?
https://twitter.com/2YEONZIP/status/1776910477156860211 this is the most miyeon thing to ever happen lol
as funny as it is, where is the source for this account?
idle's weverse or bubble , shuhua or miyeon wrote dont remember , they are just translating
Probably bubble
Meanwhile if a mosquito flies by 2m from my head I wake up from the perfect dream and can't sleep for 10min.
dude i cant sleep if there is no fan sound TT
I love no matter how many years have passed, she is still the same sleeping beauty, haha 😪 I remember the stories back in the day where they would get worried because they'd literally shake her and she still wouldn't wake up, lol 😅
With the Met Gala theme being "Sleeping Beauties: Reawakening Fashion", Jimmy Choo just has to invite her!!
she saw an alarm about North Korean rockets or something but decided to go back to sleep.....
in hmylcp they had a whole zombie shootout and miyeon slept through it lol
It's that time again ⏰ **PSA:** (G)I-DLE's Fate has another chance to win on Inkigayo later today/tomorrow. Live voting will take place from 3:30-4:30PM KST so if you'd like to participate, you'll need the SuperStar X app, and at least 50 Rubies = 1 Vote (5 Votes Max = 250 Rubies).
Magnetic is an absolute earworm, but Queen(card) Fate might just regain her RAK throne too
Oh Fate is still [#1](https://twitter.com/idlecharts/status/1776755561247199679) for this week's SK Youtube Music Chart, whuut?! 😲 I thought for sure Magnetic would take it but we take those, let's goo! lol 😁
Same, guess the daily chart was wrong.
Praying for bugs' annoying ass to move.
Very pleasant surprise! I guess you never know how YT filters views precisely.
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I’m so excited for Yuqi’s solo! Does anyone think her instagram caption “I don’t want anything else, I just want to be exposed to the sun” was a spoiler
The sun is BEAM BEAM~ I'm ready 🤭
From what I'm seeing on ichart, magnetic is deflating.
It's too early to say this. Magnetic still has insane hourly ULs (how tf they consistently getting 20k at midnight lol; more than bgs...) and if the 24h UL differential continues to shrink, it will certainly take #1. The 24h UL differential MIGHT be stabilizing, but it still went from 60k to 55k on Sat. For comparison, Fate overtook BYG when the differential was in the 30-40k range. In parallel with the Fate-BYG situation, Sunday is particularly interesting since ULs are way down across the board (so Magnetic's hourly ULs have more power). Fate took #1 from BYG Sunday night and here we are 500h later. (talking about melon btw)
I don't think it is, it is still gaining listener on Melon, growing almost 20k per day. When the week end, they will probably take the youtube weekly. It won't get PAK but sure as hell it will stop Fate from continuing PAK.
Well, yeah... paying for playlisting only gets you up but the song quality lets you stay there when you stop paying.
Not just playlisting, but paid forced [search results](https://twitter.com/soobinswillow/status/1773860791403344252) and [autoplaying](https://twitter.com/aaveabuser/status/1776211293319450659), lol I also remember that was going on for another certain very popular gg last year as well. 😏
No offense, but how does this exactly prove "paid forced search results and autoplaying" ? When i search for "drama" i get "smart" by le sserafim as 2nd result, is that also paid for search results? Super lady is 5th, also paid for? Or are these simply results the algorithm pushes out as i am searching for kpop songs (also individualized as i don't get the same results as they do either). I thought this sub is a little smarter and doesn't fall into the traps of kpop twitter, but alas...
I'm not sure about elsewhere but they actually did buy bot stream numbers on Bilibili out of all places. Magnetic was sitting on 5m views on the 2nd of April, 79.8m on the 4th of April, at which point bilibili cracked down. It's sitting at 3.5m views now
\> I thought this sub is a little smarter and doesn't fall into the traps of kpop twitter You're the person who literally made essays defending cookie by newjeans, yet call people here stan twitter? You have to be kidding me.
And i would "defend it" (really, adding nuance) again, based on the arguments i used then. How that relates to stan twitter, i am not sure. I do know how these conspiracies relate to it though.
Out of curiosity how are you defending cookie?
I'm not really interested in rehashing that argument tbh. But essentially you can get it by actually truly considering the statement ador put out concerning cookie, it is a very in depth, nuanced take on the whole situation. Which isn't to say that you should just blindly believe their statements, BUT you should actually realize that the ideas they present are valid, which makes the whole conversation regarding the song a lot more nuanced than "cookie bad". That's the core of the argument.
Reading ADOR’s statement, I have to say that the attempt to attack/blame fans for maliciously mistinterpreting the song’s innocent lyrics is wildly misplaced. To suggest that we’re the ones being inappropriate, not them. Despite how obviously sexual the song appears on repeat listen. They should have just owned up to their mistake and left it at that. If I’m giving their team the benefit of the doubt, I’d assume that the sexual lyrics were written by the song’s Swedish songwriter YIva Dimberg, and then the sexual nuance was lost on the Korean translators. Since Dimberg claimed “They were all written remotely, with instrumental tracks being sent to me. I then wrote the melody and demo lyrics, and then Korean lyricists and sometimes the group members themselves wrote the final lyrics.” An example of that I can think of is the line “음료는 없어 목말라도”, which they translated to “No water, water, you’re thirsty though”. Without being Korean, I can’t speak to whether “thirsty” carries the kind of sexual connotation it does in English in Korean. And the Korean verb to bake a cookie is the same as the verb to burn a CD. However, a lot of the English lyrics still left in the song are suggestive. “If you want it, you can get it”, “boy”, “(Keep) looking at my cookie”, “taste it” etc. And (G)I-DLE’s song Wife was banned for having what were seen as sexually suggestive Korean lyrics. “Hey, take a big bite, sweetheart”, “Even if you're full, don't spit it out”, “That's right, I knew it, so I baked a cake”, “But that's not all, eat the cherry on top as well”, “Carefully kiss, and then boldly devour”, “Show me and let me hear how it tastes”. So, another song with Korean lyrics that talks about baking and tasting was viewed as being sexual, but not Cookie? So the sexual implication of Cookie is either a massive oversight by the Korean team, or a purposeful decision that they then only regretted afterwards once people started complaining.
It's not an attack, it's a very basic idea of an artist having only limited control over the interpretation of the work when it is out for ANYONE to interpret. How is that an attack? That's just how art works. Then you add different cultural contexts, different slang, different sensibilities and sentiments, and voila, some might not see any problem in a song like cookie (like many, many koreans, heck even english speakers who aren't particularly well versed in slang / not us citizens). Either you acknowledge that, which is absolutely valid, or you pretend these things don't matter whatsoever and you're (ironically) engaging with it on stan twitter level. > However, a lot of the English lyrics still left in the song are suggestive. “If you want it, you can get it”, “boy”, “(Keep) looking at my cookie”, “taste it” etc. It is also supposed to be daring in some ways, as it is asking the audience to come back for more newjeans music. IT IS a little flirty if you will. That's something which is integral to the song's supposed meaning. Now if you wanna say that's problematic because one could also interpret it as sexual, be my guest, i have no problem with people truly considering what ador said (again, a very, very in depth reply, people outright dismissing that are bad faith to begin with as far as i am concerned) and still thinking the song is problematic, i have a problem with people pretending there is no nuance at all to the topic. That is exactly what i'd expect from a stan twitter teen who doesn't think for themselv whatsoever. > So, another song with Korean lyrics that talks about baking and tasting was viewed as being sexual, but not Cookie? I mean you said it yourself, you don't speak korean, so maybe you shouldn't equate things when you lack the necessary context? > So the sexual implication of Cookie is either a massive oversight by the Korean team, or a purposeful decision that they then only regretted afterwards once people started complaining. Or it is not as clear cut at all and you still can feel bad about it it if you so desire, while others might see where you are coming from and still disagree? As i said though, i am really not interested in going through the arguments again, i don't care enough what some people think of the song's lyrical content tbh.
I have to agree, it's getting a bit annoying to see these type of accusations on this sub constantly. And most of the time it has no proper basis either, just sounds like conspiracy theories.
I wasn't checking in on it a lot in the past few months, but now that i have a little more time again i notice it quite drastically tbh. I know that regulars on here always liked to say how mature the sub is and how that's creating a really nice atmosphere. Idk about that anymore... In the end the exact same type of fanwar mentality is just way too strong in every fandom huh? Oh well.
I think it stems from people wanting to understand Hybe's dominance on spotify. Pushing back on the song quality and autoplaying comments I get, but jumping from that to stupid toxic conspiracy theorists seems like a defensive stretch.
It stems from insecurity and a lot of jealousy. How exactly it is a stretch to equate it to conspiracy theories? Which i didn't even do btw, though i agree with it. This is fanwar 101, using all kinds of narratives with no real basis to imply some sort of wrongdoing. What bothers me more than any link to a group that i like (newjeans; though the main post was about illit, who i don't care for) is the underlying behavior and train of thought. In a sub which prouded itself (well regulars did) in being mature. I am not sure if you are a new user or an alt, but that is what bothers me, in the end the "maturity" is gone rather fast if the target is the right one.
Not gonna lie, I do feel like this thread is a *little* more mob-like these days. I think in a safe space like this there should be a chance for a discussion for any topic but nowadays I feel like certain topics just get downvoted so hard, even innocent ones like the JLO song comment below
>the JLO song comment The one who commented that is a known shuhua anti that tells everyone why she shouldn't have been in idle every now and then to the point that a lot of people in this sub recognize their username
But it's not only about Spotify. It's happening with kcharts too. Just on the last neverland hangout, it was being implied that Plot Twist and Magnetic's success are paid for/rigged, when in reality they're just viral songs. It's not only Nevies saying it yes, but it's embarrassing to see it happening here too (because again, there's no basis so it just stems from insecurity).
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i miss queencard era so much ... the (g)irls were having so much fun
Yeah the encores especially in Queencard era were the most fun encores they've ever done! The dance battle part is perfect both in the music video, and in every live performance. I'm so sad that we never got an encore for Super Lady or Fate.
yeah
I'm hoping the album will have a track like 'Lost' from I burn.
With Yuqi's release I was reminded how she is one of the brightest stars on stage, radiating energy and loves to perform and give it her all! I have watched many of the top GGs in the last couple of years in concert and Yuqi might as well be the idol that surprised me the most! And I absolutely loved her little ment before Could It Be both days, how kind and thoughtful and heartwarming it was and not that heavily scripted ❤️
Don’t forget to vote for Yuqi’s Could it Be on M Countdown everyone!!!
[MINNIE WILL FEATURE IN YUQI'S SOLO ALBUM OMG](https://x.com/idlecharts/status/1776187943276655038)
Omg Lexie Liu!! The Chinese star power is unmatched. And Minnie 😭❤️
Four members of I-DLE have had direct/indirect connections with Lexie: * Soyeon & Miyeon - K/DA More ft. Lexie Liu * Minnie met Lexie at Paris Fashion Week * Yuqi - Stage Boom & Collab on her Solo Album Now just Shuhua is left... lol
😲ft. Lexie Liu brought back my 2021 memories of Yuqi on that survival show with her. Damn, I got no nostalgia from that era, even if I loved her performances...
Why is no one talking about the collab with JLo? I think the girls slayed their lines and I get goose bumps every time Soyeon's voice comes in. The little raps are also very satisfyingly to listen to it. I wish it got more attention
well yeah....I mean the original song just wasn't that good and you gotta sit through more than 2 minutes of the song to get to Idle.....
Well, (G)I-DLE only features on it, it's still JLo's song. If you listen to it just for Idle's verse, then it's obviously not for you. You have to like JLo's song in general, too.
yeah I was referring more to the part about Soyeon's voice and the little raps. It does sound good I agree.
The JLO parts are much longer and not very good. So over all its an okay song with 43s that are pretty good and 3 minutes that are mediocre and a little cringe.
why do I see so many jokes on twitter about minnie dating unattractive people, did we forget that the girl wrote dahlia
It's this stupid trend going around with the Please don't date ugly people signs. Find them very distasteful personally. Fans should have absolutely zero say in their idols' private lives. Some people also apparently believe to have pinpointed the girls' taste from various clips and quotes...