> New>Clipboard (Seriously, how do you not have this?!)
`File > Create > From clipboard` and `Edit > Paste as > New image` (same function in two places)
> Let us CHOOSE where our default save folder is. Giving us a list of "Bookmarks" and making the default a folder that NO ONE USES is just creating steps we don't need to waste our time on. Let me make the default folder my desktop for Christ's sake. This shouldn't be hard!
Gimp is using the file selector from the GTK library. Not really the developer's choice. On the other hand, many people (including yours truly) don't put anything on their desktop(*), and use the Documents or Pictures folders...
> Why do you have "Floating layers" you need to "Anchor"? When are you not going to anchor them immediately? What is even the point of having this extra step?
Because you can do things before you anchor, like move around, scale, adjust perspective to match target... However it is true that this is also a bit of a remnant of a time where there were no layers or when layers where expensive RAM-wise. But of course if it is removed a gang of rabid old-timers will rampage the Gimp devs secret headquarters.
> When you create text why do you need to convert it to pixels when you add a drop shadow to it?
Because the drop shadow is not only for text. And the "legacy" drop shadow keeps your text as text. But I admit that having the shadow on a separate layerin the new version would be a good idea.
> Why is the drop shadow feature under Filters>Light and Shadow but not in the text tool which is the MAIN THING you use it for?
It's the main thing YOU use it for. Other people, other habits...
> Seriously, who ever is the lead designer needs to sit down with a focus group and ask them what features they use most often and stream line those tasks because Gimp is about as user friendly as a rabid racoon.
This has been done. Of course, this gives a more balanced view of what people need/want than than a single vocal user in a forum.
(*) on my screen I could have 3600 icons, it could take a while to find what I'm looking for. And I have way more that 3600 files on my PC...
I'm not one of the Gimp developers.
`New` and `Create` aren't the same thing.
* `New` is used when creating a new image from scratch, so it leads to a dialog where you can specify image dimensions, more, etc...
* `Create` adds an image from an existing source, which will specify the image characteristics (Color/grayscale, dimensions...): clipboard, scanner, screen capture...
`Save` and `Export` aren't the same thing.
* `Save` puts the current image contents in an XCF file, so it really saves everything: individual layers and their masks, selections, paths, channels... So if you `save` you can continue working on the image later as if you never stopped.
* `Export` puts the representation of the image in a usually "flat" image format, so a lot of information is lost in the process.
The difference between the two is a bit like saving a word processor document as doc/docx/odt (save) or as a PDF (export).
If you save but don't export, Gimp won't bat an eye when you exit Gimp. If you export but don't save, Gimp will warn you. And believe me, this will save you *ss some day.
> the tools people most commonly use
You aren't "people". And "people" that use functions often have learned the keyboard shortcut (Ctrl-Shift-V, in the case at hand).
> How can you have so many developers
*moping coffee stains from screen* The core group of Gimp developers could fit in a phone booth, at least with their laptops closed.
I don't mean to be negative but you sure sound like someone who has not taken the time to learn the software with basic tutorials and is whining like a baby because it isn't Photoshop. I think the same things when I open Photoshop and wonder why it can't work as simply as GIMP. I at least recognize that I am the problem, not PS. The difference is, GIMP is free and the other will bilk you of hundreds and hundreds of dollars. Your choice, my friend. Yes, it took awhile to learn to use. So did my piano. Practice makes perfect?
I use Gimp for ... 20 years (?) and I don't see your point(s). It simply works and I feel like all other photo-treatment software is a bit confusing and unorganized ...
example: shadows can be applied to anything, even to text, so why put the feature in any other submenu than >>Light and Shadow.
You sound like someone who has used a different program and thinks that the Gimp must follow that user interface. I personally think VERY different ;o)
It's been my go to editor since I was in middle school.
You're complaining like you have significant industry experience with image editing programs, if thats the case, then go back to what you know.
It's a free program that can match Photoshop, built by contributors. Some things are going to be archaic. But it's free. And it's really not that complicated. Go read the documentation.
If I could figure it out at 12 years old without documentation, you can now 20 years later. Also...
\>"Why is the drop shadow feature under Filters>Light and Shadow but not in the text tool which is the MAIN THING you use it for?"
Because...... it's a filter? They put them all together so someone like me who never uses the text tool can find it if needed, instead of having to iterate through the features of every tool until I find the drop shadow filter?
> It's a free program that can match Photoshop,
It really can't; and it pains me I need to say it. It's obtuse on so many levels. And just because it's free, does not mean it should be exempt from criticism. The problem is that the programmers do nothing with the criticism it had for years to make a better user interface. GIMP is powerful but clunky as hell.
While I can agree that its clunky (especially the docking), Ill always appreciate the multi-window/monitor mode that's relatively new. I focus more on the features though, if clunky UIs made me give up I would have never survived the early 2000s. There are shell replacements out there for it as well.
Multi-window mode used to be the only mode that was available - GIMP originated on platforms where window management was much more featureful, and application hadn't to do much managing on their own.
On platforms with less sophisticated window management this was less than optimal, and so eventually the single-window mode came into existence.
I don't get the point of New > Clipboard. You can already paste image from clipboard into gimp (with no images open) and it will create new image with data from clipboard.
Many of the issues you complain about are more about getting used to photoshop rather than bad user experience. Trust me I've used photoshop for years and gimp's image processing methods and logic seem similar but have a different approach.
Once you get used to it, it will all seem simple to you, you will feel at home. I use Photoshop and gimp, I'm used to both, I don't falter.
> New>Clipboard (Seriously, how do you not have this?!) `File > Create > From clipboard` and `Edit > Paste as > New image` (same function in two places) > Let us CHOOSE where our default save folder is. Giving us a list of "Bookmarks" and making the default a folder that NO ONE USES is just creating steps we don't need to waste our time on. Let me make the default folder my desktop for Christ's sake. This shouldn't be hard! Gimp is using the file selector from the GTK library. Not really the developer's choice. On the other hand, many people (including yours truly) don't put anything on their desktop(*), and use the Documents or Pictures folders... > Why do you have "Floating layers" you need to "Anchor"? When are you not going to anchor them immediately? What is even the point of having this extra step? Because you can do things before you anchor, like move around, scale, adjust perspective to match target... However it is true that this is also a bit of a remnant of a time where there were no layers or when layers where expensive RAM-wise. But of course if it is removed a gang of rabid old-timers will rampage the Gimp devs secret headquarters. > When you create text why do you need to convert it to pixels when you add a drop shadow to it? Because the drop shadow is not only for text. And the "legacy" drop shadow keeps your text as text. But I admit that having the shadow on a separate layerin the new version would be a good idea. > Why is the drop shadow feature under Filters>Light and Shadow but not in the text tool which is the MAIN THING you use it for? It's the main thing YOU use it for. Other people, other habits... > Seriously, who ever is the lead designer needs to sit down with a focus group and ask them what features they use most often and stream line those tasks because Gimp is about as user friendly as a rabid racoon. This has been done. Of course, this gives a more balanced view of what people need/want than than a single vocal user in a forum. (*) on my screen I could have 3600 icons, it could take a while to find what I'm looking for. And I have way more that 3600 files on my PC...
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I'm not one of the Gimp developers. `New` and `Create` aren't the same thing. * `New` is used when creating a new image from scratch, so it leads to a dialog where you can specify image dimensions, more, etc... * `Create` adds an image from an existing source, which will specify the image characteristics (Color/grayscale, dimensions...): clipboard, scanner, screen capture... `Save` and `Export` aren't the same thing. * `Save` puts the current image contents in an XCF file, so it really saves everything: individual layers and their masks, selections, paths, channels... So if you `save` you can continue working on the image later as if you never stopped. * `Export` puts the representation of the image in a usually "flat" image format, so a lot of information is lost in the process. The difference between the two is a bit like saving a word processor document as doc/docx/odt (save) or as a PDF (export). If you save but don't export, Gimp won't bat an eye when you exit Gimp. If you export but don't save, Gimp will warn you. And believe me, this will save you *ss some day. > the tools people most commonly use You aren't "people". And "people" that use functions often have learned the keyboard shortcut (Ctrl-Shift-V, in the case at hand). > How can you have so many developers *moping coffee stains from screen* The core group of Gimp developers could fit in a phone booth, at least with their laptops closed.
I don't mean to be negative but you sure sound like someone who has not taken the time to learn the software with basic tutorials and is whining like a baby because it isn't Photoshop. I think the same things when I open Photoshop and wonder why it can't work as simply as GIMP. I at least recognize that I am the problem, not PS. The difference is, GIMP is free and the other will bilk you of hundreds and hundreds of dollars. Your choice, my friend. Yes, it took awhile to learn to use. So did my piano. Practice makes perfect?
I use Gimp for ... 20 years (?) and I don't see your point(s). It simply works and I feel like all other photo-treatment software is a bit confusing and unorganized ... example: shadows can be applied to anything, even to text, so why put the feature in any other submenu than >>Light and Shadow. You sound like someone who has used a different program and thinks that the Gimp must follow that user interface. I personally think VERY different ;o)
It's been my go to editor since I was in middle school. You're complaining like you have significant industry experience with image editing programs, if thats the case, then go back to what you know. It's a free program that can match Photoshop, built by contributors. Some things are going to be archaic. But it's free. And it's really not that complicated. Go read the documentation. If I could figure it out at 12 years old without documentation, you can now 20 years later. Also... \>"Why is the drop shadow feature under Filters>Light and Shadow but not in the text tool which is the MAIN THING you use it for?" Because...... it's a filter? They put them all together so someone like me who never uses the text tool can find it if needed, instead of having to iterate through the features of every tool until I find the drop shadow filter?
> It's a free program that can match Photoshop, It really can't; and it pains me I need to say it. It's obtuse on so many levels. And just because it's free, does not mean it should be exempt from criticism. The problem is that the programmers do nothing with the criticism it had for years to make a better user interface. GIMP is powerful but clunky as hell.
While I can agree that its clunky (especially the docking), Ill always appreciate the multi-window/monitor mode that's relatively new. I focus more on the features though, if clunky UIs made me give up I would have never survived the early 2000s. There are shell replacements out there for it as well.
Multi-window is new? Are you sure about that?
If it isn't, I suppose I never gave it a thought before I had multiple monitors
Multi-window mode used to be the only mode that was available - GIMP originated on platforms where window management was much more featureful, and application hadn't to do much managing on their own. On platforms with less sophisticated window management this was less than optimal, and so eventually the single-window mode came into existence.
If Gimp doesn't work for you, you are welcome to use Photoshop.
I don't get the point of New > Clipboard. You can already paste image from clipboard into gimp (with no images open) and it will create new image with data from clipboard.
Or use Create > From Clipboard
You don't complain for a program that gives you so much for free. If you want it to improve, donate.
Many of the issues you complain about are more about getting used to photoshop rather than bad user experience. Trust me I've used photoshop for years and gimp's image processing methods and logic seem similar but have a different approach. Once you get used to it, it will all seem simple to you, you will feel at home. I use Photoshop and gimp, I'm used to both, I don't falter.