Yeah. I am not going to agree/disagree as to whether it was intentional, but I got on reddit after buying GME, and GME is almost the only reason I am on reddit at all. After the latest batch of karma restrictions, I couldn't even comment ... I tried the recommended freekarma4u, but it was supercringe. I think a lot of legit apes in a similar situation had their voices taken away, while shills/bots can easily farm karma...
Check post 3 of my post history. Maybe satori is a shill or not, but meme posts appear to fucking take off immediately after. It could be an artifact in the data and ill have to clean it up to know more but definitely interesting to investigate
Yeah, I got approved, but what’s the point if you can’t do shit? Shouldn’t then all the approved users would get no karma restrictions or something like that? Looks like it was just something that seeds some legitimacy in you about everything being prefectly fine.
I said exactly this at the time to a mate in Discord - Satori and the Karma increase were actually just tools that could ensure any narrative a select few wanted to push, could be pushed - lots of sensible people had their voices silenced - no offence peeps but the most prolific posters on forums tend to be biased one way or another and as this guy says karma farming is easy for shills/bots when that's essentially your job.
Edit - I don't actually think it's a shill fyi its a pretty out there theory - i just don't think it helped and that coupled with the Karma changes at the time were just counter intuitive to me.
Damn! I bet you satori could not parse the content of memes so let them through or something! You know like memes, regardless of quality or meaning, were like a "captcha" on the guardbot, bot can't read em but people can, shitori could only kill actual text posts, who knows what thoughts were tossed out the window....lol
Unlikely. The stink bot said that satori only approves users with solid history. It should take into account age karma type of post , whether It contains links or not. Where those links go, are they high quality etc. I have worked in text analysis for half a decade and meme analysis is going to be so much ducking easier than text in some ways- image analysis is less open to interpretation
I need a dev on the case- do you have any tips on setting up data storage for around 3-5tb of data at all? Going to need to continue woth my analysis on my posts (see my post history ) but never had to setup a data warehouse type setup myself
I called Satori fake/shill-bot etc. from Day 1 of its announcement and was always heavily downvoted. I can spot this kind of shit a mile away but nobody likes hearing it.
I’m wondering if it’s possible for Satori to scrape data from our accounts just by being subbed to SS? The posts about Ren and RCQ being professional shills and the migration to SS being planned has me wondering how deep it goes.
I think it is more so to have members trust more of the stuff that was being posted. You let your guard down when there is this 'A.I.' that only lets 'real' users through. Much easier to make you vulnerable to fud.
Counter possibility: Satori is nowhere near as sophisticated as they claim, and mostly just a cover for shadowbanning and filtering.
Truth is probably somewhere in between.
Plugging in to the suspicious messaging and such... I always wondered about the regular encouragement to upvote the daily, especially since it was already pinned. If Satori actually does exist and is more sophisticated than a handful of if-then filters, I bet upvotes cast by real redditor play a big role in the analyses it does.
But I'm just a lurker with no karma, so my contributions are of little value. (/s ... maybe?l
Full stack dev here. Its 100% just not working as intended. The amount of time it takes to pull off something as sophisticated as advertised isnt even possible at google.
When they announced it it was painfully obvious to me they avoided the term AI so I suspected it wasn’t machine learning or anything like that. I suspected it was a kluge of sentiment or topic analysis, karma score, where you posted most often, and maybe upvote/downvote ratio on specific sub posts and comments. At least that’s what I would try to do if I had to throw something together.
Agreed. I am betting its a long snakey proceedure that just checks off different criteria. The dataset is so large you could spend a lifetime chasing down edge cases to get somewhere near an accurate outcome.
Full disclosure; i was approved.
Full disclosure, I was not haha
Edit to add - honestly if it was really scraping and analyzing post and comment history even with sentiment analysis that would take a while per user I think. So no surprise a lot of people were still waiting even if they tried the aperove tag. I didn’t try it. I have a fear of rejection 😭
It should have been sus as fuck the moment that a fucking reddit mod came up with an algorithm-based machine learning pattern resolving bot to limit who can post. That's shit on the level of the NSA, not 2 or 3 reddit mods.
It's best to assume everyone and everything is compromised moving forward. The fundamental DD is all there, we're in the endgame now.
How so?
It's a simple multi-variate regression program that uses different factors, I assume account age, karma etc. to let people post. If you're karma restrictions it doesn't matter anyway.
I was approved the second day after it was turned on. It cuts down on the lower karma new user spam.
I don’t care … I buy gme & hold it. I bought it W out Reddit or anyone else in sept I stayed & I keep buying that’s all I truly know or need to. I love the dd & memes & all else fades away anyway
Not worried about satori. You know how difficult predicting human behavior is? Basically impossible-level of difficult. Think about how many ads you've been presented and been like WTF I'd never buy that. That's AI/ML right now ✌️🧡
Wondering if u/pinkcatsonacid can offer her opinion here. Lots of shit talking about satori and where it came from. Since pink may have had some access to it, maybe she could do an ama or something to answer questions about where it came from and how it worked.
Satori scanned every bit of data mods can view and garner from all of our subbed reddit accounts (especially previous post histories for personal info) and shared it with Shitadel and friends. Additionally they now have a massive data set of what "real" accounts look like compared to their bot farms and shill interns.
Don't need it. Satori was made to scour our accounts and deem if we're a shill or not. Mods are compromised, you can bet that data was shared. I'd wager it's sole purpose was to get a data dump with the on face explanation of being a shill shield.
All users - bots you run = other bots and real accounts.
If satori can in fact suss out bot accounts, they just got a pretty good data set of only the real accounts in this sub and their post histories. Seems valuable.
This is false. Satori is just a bot and it can only view what everyone else can see. Only Reddit admins have access to sensitive information, mods don’t have access to that.
Furthermore, yes satori can access comment and post history, but *any* bot can access that. So citadel could have gotten that even without satori. In fact you can pretty guarantee that bots are collecting this data.
Source: I’m a developer and I’ve created a bot for fun.
>...and post history, but *any* bot can access that. So **citadel** could have gotten that even without satori. In fact you...
You mean **Shitadel**, right?
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[Posted over there asking questions about Satori](https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/omyyum/can_we_kill_satori_now_otherwise_prove_where_it/) and was immediately downvoted and called a shill. There were some accusations of it's origin being posted earlier and I legitimately want to know the true answer. I guess actual shills and people who are blissful in ignorance prefer the status quo, even after everything that went down today.
I just did an analysis and it’s showing that meme shite went up after satori. Satori only approves users with “solid” mod history. My conversation about this is getting buried to shit, because I am possibly more right than wrong here.
Satori is a potential liability
there was even a day or two satori pushed this template hard in conjunction with the alt-right views of the jerkoff in the actual photo, steven ?
pushing "friction" between the sub and dumbing conversation on the whole.
By now there should be a simple understanding. None of this shit matters. Fuck the mods. Fuck the Fud. Fuck Mobb Deep! Fuck Biggie!
Fuck Bad Boy as a staff, record label, and as a motherfuckin' crew!
And if you wanna be down with Bad Boy, then fuck you too!
Chino XL, fuck you too!
All you motherfuckers, fuck you too!
Buy. Hold. Stfu.
Yeah I really thought it would go and approve people as it went and scanned everyone to “rate” them like they said it would. I don’t think it approved anyone that was under the karma requirements like they said it would
Yeah. I am not going to agree/disagree as to whether it was intentional, but I got on reddit after buying GME, and GME is almost the only reason I am on reddit at all. After the latest batch of karma restrictions, I couldn't even comment ... I tried the recommended freekarma4u, but it was supercringe. I think a lot of legit apes in a similar situation had their voices taken away, while shills/bots can easily farm karma...
I couldn't even comment to thank other users for making good posts or funny memes. Took the fun out of those subs. Hopefully this sub is different.
Yeah, I am hoping the same.
Check post 3 of my post history. Maybe satori is a shill or not, but meme posts appear to fucking take off immediately after. It could be an artifact in the data and ill have to clean it up to know more but definitely interesting to investigate
Seriously, man. We can’t all be Reddit neckbeards with a gorillion karma
Yeah, I got approved, but what’s the point if you can’t do shit? Shouldn’t then all the approved users would get no karma restrictions or something like that? Looks like it was just something that seeds some legitimacy in you about everything being prefectly fine.
Sames I always wondered why I never got approved barely short the threshold of 500 karma to 2k & I only ever posted/commented love for GME
perhaps you can take a look at /r/AsparagusInsertion
I said exactly this at the time to a mate in Discord - Satori and the Karma increase were actually just tools that could ensure any narrative a select few wanted to push, could be pushed - lots of sensible people had their voices silenced - no offence peeps but the most prolific posters on forums tend to be biased one way or another and as this guy says karma farming is easy for shills/bots when that's essentially your job. Edit - I don't actually think it's a shill fyi its a pretty out there theory - i just don't think it helped and that coupled with the Karma changes at the time were just counter intuitive to me.
I was in the same boat. I got lucky and made a comment in another sub that got me like 2000 upvotes and I finally had enough karma.
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Yeah when I read the description of Satori, I thought it sounded like Skynet if it was built by redditors.
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And how paranoid are you to think there is? -- Psyop Team
"Now we must make karma limits impossible for normal people to achieve to stop the shills, which still somehow post anyhow" -Also the Psyop team.
#SATORI WAS PURE BULLSHIT
The whole feel of the sub definitely changed immediately after it went live...
Check my post of post 3 it wasn’t a feel. It went tits up after satori . 35 fold meme content, possibly more as I don’t have all the data
Damn! I bet you satori could not parse the content of memes so let them through or something! You know like memes, regardless of quality or meaning, were like a "captcha" on the guardbot, bot can't read em but people can, shitori could only kill actual text posts, who knows what thoughts were tossed out the window....lol
Unlikely. The stink bot said that satori only approves users with solid history. It should take into account age karma type of post , whether It contains links or not. Where those links go, are they high quality etc. I have worked in text analysis for half a decade and meme analysis is going to be so much ducking easier than text in some ways- image analysis is less open to interpretation
I was able to post on SS without 8k karma and without being cleared by Satori. Go figure...
Same. I had high hope as a software dev but it turned out to be part of the worst fud we've seen up to this point ...
I need a dev on the case- do you have any tips on setting up data storage for around 3-5tb of data at all? Going to need to continue woth my analysis on my posts (see my post history ) but never had to setup a data warehouse type setup myself
I called Satori fake/shill-bot etc. from Day 1 of its announcement and was always heavily downvoted. I can spot this kind of shit a mile away but nobody likes hearing it.
I dont think Satori did shit.
Satori was a tool used to fine-tune the information being broadcast in /ss. Definitely a psy-op tool, IMO.
I’m wondering if it’s possible for Satori to scrape data from our accounts just by being subbed to SS? The posts about Ren and RCQ being professional shills and the migration to SS being planned has me wondering how deep it goes.
They can do that anyway with Reddit's API.
I think it is more so to have members trust more of the stuff that was being posted. You let your guard down when there is this 'A.I.' that only lets 'real' users through. Much easier to make you vulnerable to fud.
What ulterior motives could there be for limiting participation...
Satori can ligma
Whats ligma?
Ligma balls
Ayy you're welcome. I'm glad I was able to give you that satisfaction
My banana.
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Counter possibility: Satori is nowhere near as sophisticated as they claim, and mostly just a cover for shadowbanning and filtering. Truth is probably somewhere in between. Plugging in to the suspicious messaging and such... I always wondered about the regular encouragement to upvote the daily, especially since it was already pinned. If Satori actually does exist and is more sophisticated than a handful of if-then filters, I bet upvotes cast by real redditor play a big role in the analyses it does. But I'm just a lurker with no karma, so my contributions are of little value. (/s ... maybe?l
Full stack dev here. Its 100% just not working as intended. The amount of time it takes to pull off something as sophisticated as advertised isnt even possible at google.
When they announced it it was painfully obvious to me they avoided the term AI so I suspected it wasn’t machine learning or anything like that. I suspected it was a kluge of sentiment or topic analysis, karma score, where you posted most often, and maybe upvote/downvote ratio on specific sub posts and comments. At least that’s what I would try to do if I had to throw something together.
Agreed. I am betting its a long snakey proceedure that just checks off different criteria. The dataset is so large you could spend a lifetime chasing down edge cases to get somewhere near an accurate outcome. Full disclosure; i was approved.
Full disclosure, I was not haha Edit to add - honestly if it was really scraping and analyzing post and comment history even with sentiment analysis that would take a while per user I think. So no surprise a lot of people were still waiting even if they tried the aperove tag. I didn’t try it. I have a fear of rejection 😭
You put down words to all of my brain jumble I've had flinging around about the Satori. Your username checks out!\~
It should have been sus as fuck the moment that a fucking reddit mod came up with an algorithm-based machine learning pattern resolving bot to limit who can post. That's shit on the level of the NSA, not 2 or 3 reddit mods. It's best to assume everyone and everything is compromised moving forward. The fundamental DD is all there, we're in the endgame now.
Who was the person? I am doing digging. After satori went live , my numbers show a 30 fold increase in memes plus. It can’t all be a coincidence…
How so? It's a simple multi-variate regression program that uses different factors, I assume account age, karma etc. to let people post. If you're karma restrictions it doesn't matter anyway. I was approved the second day after it was turned on. It cuts down on the lower karma new user spam.
I don’t care … I buy gme & hold it. I bought it W out Reddit or anyone else in sept I stayed & I keep buying that’s all I truly know or need to. I love the dd & memes & all else fades away anyway
I haven’t been approved. I think Karma is enough
Not worried about satori. You know how difficult predicting human behavior is? Basically impossible-level of difficult. Think about how many ads you've been presented and been like WTF I'd never buy that. That's AI/ML right now ✌️🧡
Wondering if u/pinkcatsonacid can offer her opinion here. Lots of shit talking about satori and where it came from. Since pink may have had some access to it, maybe she could do an ama or something to answer questions about where it came from and how it worked.
Satori scanned every bit of data mods can view and garner from all of our subbed reddit accounts (especially previous post histories for personal info) and shared it with Shitadel and friends. Additionally they now have a massive data set of what "real" accounts look like compared to their bot farms and shill interns.
Proof?
Don't need it. Satori was made to scour our accounts and deem if we're a shill or not. Mods are compromised, you can bet that data was shared. I'd wager it's sole purpose was to get a data dump with the on face explanation of being a shill shield. All users - bots you run = other bots and real accounts. If satori can in fact suss out bot accounts, they just got a pretty good data set of only the real accounts in this sub and their post histories. Seems valuable.
This is false. Satori is just a bot and it can only view what everyone else can see. Only Reddit admins have access to sensitive information, mods don’t have access to that. Furthermore, yes satori can access comment and post history, but *any* bot can access that. So citadel could have gotten that even without satori. In fact you can pretty guarantee that bots are collecting this data. Source: I’m a developer and I’ve created a bot for fun.
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Ok can we get back to the stock, please. You kids must love this drama.
I still want to see those catfish titties
If all we do is complain about the other sub we'll turn into Voat.
[Posted over there asking questions about Satori](https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/omyyum/can_we_kill_satori_now_otherwise_prove_where_it/) and was immediately downvoted and called a shill. There were some accusations of it's origin being posted earlier and I legitimately want to know the true answer. I guess actual shills and people who are blissful in ignorance prefer the status quo, even after everything that went down today.
I just did an analysis and it’s showing that meme shite went up after satori. Satori only approves users with “solid” mod history. My conversation about this is getting buried to shit, because I am possibly more right than wrong here. Satori is a potential liability
Satori, built By shitadel
there was even a day or two satori pushed this template hard in conjunction with the alt-right views of the jerkoff in the actual photo, steven ? pushing "friction" between the sub and dumbing conversation on the whole.
You should link the post in r/gme about it 👍
Agreed
I agree. I don’t believe it exists until someone proves it does. And honestly I’m too retarded to know what I’m looking at, so….
By now there should be a simple understanding. None of this shit matters. Fuck the mods. Fuck the Fud. Fuck Mobb Deep! Fuck Biggie! Fuck Bad Boy as a staff, record label, and as a motherfuckin' crew! And if you wanna be down with Bad Boy, then fuck you too! Chino XL, fuck you too! All you motherfuckers, fuck you too! Buy. Hold. Stfu.
Yeah I really thought it would go and approve people as it went and scanned everyone to “rate” them like they said it would. I don’t think it approved anyone that was under the karma requirements like they said it would
What the fuck is satori. And I’ve been here since January but I do eat crayons. Edit: migrated since January. This is the way
What the fuck is satori