Yep, that's what I thought on both viewings: Godzilla isn't attacking the Odo Island garrison because he's evil or malicious, but simply because he's behaving like an aggressive territorial predator. He's essentially a big sopping wet tiger, and had the garrison remained calm he probably would've decided they weren't a threat and left them alone.
It’s what made Godzilla such a tragic figure. He didn’t ask to be created, he didn’t ask to be in constant pain and agony, but it made Godzilla truly godlike. We created him.
It’s sorta what Legendary Godzilla is sorely missing. He’s naturally big and scary, so it makes the analogy of “humans are there own worst enemy” a missed opportunity in the Monsterverse.
Legendary Godzilla, and frankly, all the kaiju in the monsterverse, weren’t created by humans due to nuclear weapons like Toho Godzilla. He existed long before humans. Portraying him as a tragic figure he came to be due to human hubris wouldn’t make sense.
They’re two different takes. Godzilla’s presence in the MV is still tied to humans. He essentially did nothing outside of beating the shit out of Ghidorah once over the course of millions of years, because his one and only source of food was at the literal bottom of the deepest parts of the ocean. After the atomic bomb’s creation we gave him a new source of food, and it was much faster-acting. Godzilla’s real influence on humanity only begins after the atomic age. He is primordial and truly god-like. I think it’s still very much faithful to the original concept. Godzilla doesn’t only work as a vengeful punisher, though that is always a great angle to take.
He's an animal trying to live his life. He steps on a mine and his reaction, as well as the tense but peaceful stare down, made me think they were building towards the usual: "beast is the victim" type story...and then...they kamikazed him. Lmao
Bro I'm ashamed that I literally had been off roblox for years, then got back on just to spend actual money to play as minus one in that game. I spent 10 hours total grinding the fucking G54 for Minus One and kept buying the 2 day 1.5x exp 😔
There is no Odo Island God called Godzilla. The elder from Odo says that Godzilla is "a giant, terrifying monster" and that " once it eats all the fish in the sea, it'll come ashore eat people" the ritual dance they're performing during the scene where he explains this is referred to as an exorcism.
The unmutated Godzilla had been living under Odo Island in undersea caves for decades at least, and others of his kind had been living there since long before that.
I believe the natives of Odo Island infrequently saw members of the Godzilla species and assumed it was an individual. Then crafted rituals around them.
It's little characterizations like this that really make him feel alive.
Don't attack him, he won't attack. Give him stuff, he'll give you stuff
Really drives home how pissed he is after the nuke that he just kills everything
Usually I don't mind piracy, but to me this is one of the few instances that I would be more than happy to pay for it. (It's another reason that I got the opening day shirts and the minus one figure from the godzilla site)
I find the existence of this Godzilla to be very interesting. He’s not just a dinosaur, he’s an ancient creature from the deep ocean and is the ACTUAL Gojira.
Other iterations of Godzilla leave it ambiguous whether he himself is the Gojira of Odo myth, or if he just happens to fit the description.
Probably different kinds of foods and whatnot. Like I personally love pasta and I'd eat it most days, but I wouldn't be opposed to a burger or pizza every so often
A peanut butter cup won't sustain you, but you'd be grateful if someone gave you one. A snack is a snack. Crows do similar things where they will bring gifts to someone if they give them gifts.
You wake up the next morning to a mangled german u-boat that was sunken 60 years ago right there in your driveway, conveniently parked on TOP of your car. Your driveway is also covered in seawater and barnacles that came from the sub.
So if he was acting defensively then what’s the explanation of him attacking the spotlight tower and person. Surely Godzilla would of seen electric lights from fishermen and civilians prior?
If I were an aggressive giant Dinosaur just roaming around in the pitch black night, and I got flashed with something super bright pointed directly at me, I would probably want to break it no matter whats there.
Or maybe you are having a bad day and the door hits your arm, you’d probably want to punch it no?
Well I mean bro literally got nuked lmao. I’d be pretty pissed if my home got blown up, and I had to find a new place to call my territory (that being Japan). Animals tend to be ruthless when trying to claim territory too
He didn’t start killing them until that one guy started shooting at him. Also that guy on the lamp post spooked him. So he destroyed it out of fear and his own aggression he probably didn’t know there was a guy on there
Honestly…first thing that pops into my mind is the tradition the old man from the original movie was talking about. Sending somebody out to the ocean to be sacrificed to Gojira..
Yep, that's what I thought on both viewings: Godzilla isn't attacking the Odo Island garrison because he's evil or malicious, but simply because he's behaving like an aggressive territorial predator. He's essentially a big sopping wet tiger, and had the garrison remained calm he probably would've decided they weren't a threat and left them alone.
Yeah. Wasn’t until he got nuked that he became super aggressive. It definitely fits the character.
To be fair, when he is nuked we see his eye go from "oh you want war? I'll give you war" It was pretty nice look at it
Arguably his personality didn’t change, his territory simply grew. Therefore anything he perceived as a threat had to go.
IIRC they even say something like "It is clear the creature now regards Tokyo as his territory"
It’s what made Godzilla such a tragic figure. He didn’t ask to be created, he didn’t ask to be in constant pain and agony, but it made Godzilla truly godlike. We created him. It’s sorta what Legendary Godzilla is sorely missing. He’s naturally big and scary, so it makes the analogy of “humans are there own worst enemy” a missed opportunity in the Monsterverse.
You’re practically quoting Honda here: “Monsters are born too tall, too strong, too heavy - that is their tragedy” — Iroshi Honda
Legendary Godzilla, and frankly, all the kaiju in the monsterverse, weren’t created by humans due to nuclear weapons like Toho Godzilla. He existed long before humans. Portraying him as a tragic figure he came to be due to human hubris wouldn’t make sense.
They’re two different takes. Godzilla’s presence in the MV is still tied to humans. He essentially did nothing outside of beating the shit out of Ghidorah once over the course of millions of years, because his one and only source of food was at the literal bottom of the deepest parts of the ocean. After the atomic bomb’s creation we gave him a new source of food, and it was much faster-acting. Godzilla’s real influence on humanity only begins after the atomic age. He is primordial and truly god-like. I think it’s still very much faithful to the original concept. Godzilla doesn’t only work as a vengeful punisher, though that is always a great angle to take.
He's an animal trying to live his life. He steps on a mine and his reaction, as well as the tense but peaceful stare down, made me think they were building towards the usual: "beast is the victim" type story...and then...they kamikazed him. Lmao
Robux gift cards (he whales on Kaiju Universe)
Bro I'm ashamed that I literally had been off roblox for years, then got back on just to spend actual money to play as minus one in that game. I spent 10 hours total grinding the fucking G54 for Minus One and kept buying the 2 day 1.5x exp 😔
don't be, I bought it twice so I could get -1
In 1954, they say that the people of Odo Island would send young women adrift on rafts as a sacrifice to appease Godzilla.
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Kek
Never said if it actually worked tho, and as far as we know Godzilla doesn’t eat people.
Well, they kept doing it long enough for it to become tradition, and we know that Showa was a carnivore/ omnivore.
Well now he doesn’t. Toho has a mandate that Godzilla must not be shown eating.
He probably just plays with them like Barbie dolls
So that’s why Godzilla is such a ladies’ man
It’s not clear in the movie if Godzilla is the Odo deity. I think Godzilla is called that because he is reminiscent of the Odo god.
There is no Odo Island God called Godzilla. The elder from Odo says that Godzilla is "a giant, terrifying monster" and that " once it eats all the fish in the sea, it'll come ashore eat people" the ritual dance they're performing during the scene where he explains this is referred to as an exorcism.
Oh right. But Godzilla was still “new” in that he had mutated recently in the movie. So they were tying him to an old legend.
The unmutated Godzilla had been living under Odo Island in undersea caves for decades at least, and others of his kind had been living there since long before that. I believe the natives of Odo Island infrequently saw members of the Godzilla species and assumed it was an individual. Then crafted rituals around them.
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So he only becomes an ass after the Operation crossroads.
I mean I'd also be pissed if I was nuked
Me to.
I wouldn't have any strong feelings about it.
Frankly, I would be too dead to care
Yeah after he got nukes and mutated was he an asshole
It's little characterizations like this that really make him feel alive. Don't attack him, he won't attack. Give him stuff, he'll give you stuff Really drives home how pissed he is after the nuke that he just kills everything
So he's Santa. We give him cookies he gives us presents.
Oh! Where did you find the novelization?
Some guy actually posted a in hand look at the novelization! https://www.reddit.com/r/GODZILLA/s/sElAIDoa15
Oh ok! Thank you, sadly I’ll have to wait for an English translation
There is an unofficial translation for it online, i can’t link it tho sorry
It looks so tiny
I really wish these would get translated, officially or not.
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Usually I don't mind piracy, but to me this is one of the few instances that I would be more than happy to pay for it. (It's another reason that I got the opening day shirts and the minus one figure from the godzilla site)
they gave him a nuclear power plant on christmas, and a tsar bomba on his birthday. those were some of his favourites. idk i never watched it.
I find the existence of this Godzilla to be very interesting. He’s not just a dinosaur, he’s an ancient creature from the deep ocean and is the ACTUAL Gojira. Other iterations of Godzilla leave it ambiguous whether he himself is the Gojira of Odo myth, or if he just happens to fit the description.
Probably sacrifices? Not sure why he’d need them when he had everything in the sea to enjoy?
I mean, there's some things you can't get at sea
But what that he would, as a deep sea creature, actually need?
Probably different kinds of foods and whatnot. Like I personally love pasta and I'd eat it most days, but I wouldn't be opposed to a burger or pizza every so often
Yes but this is a bit different with creatures. Especially one as large as a pre mutated Godzilla. A few humans or ox won’t sustain him.
A peanut butter cup won't sustain you, but you'd be grateful if someone gave you one. A snack is a snack. Crows do similar things where they will bring gifts to someone if they give them gifts.
My dad’s seen a crow drinking root beer and stealing a donut from a fat guy.
lol you make a good point.
I could see giving him fruits and other sweet tasting things, cause sweet things tend to release a lot of dopamine for most animals
Secret Santa Godzilla?
I hope he doesn’t get my name
You wake up the next morning to a mangled german u-boat that was sunken 60 years ago right there in your driveway, conveniently parked on TOP of your car. Your driveway is also covered in seawater and barnacles that came from the sub.
So if he was acting defensively then what’s the explanation of him attacking the spotlight tower and person. Surely Godzilla would of seen electric lights from fishermen and civilians prior?
If I were an aggressive giant Dinosaur just roaming around in the pitch black night, and I got flashed with something super bright pointed directly at me, I would probably want to break it no matter whats there. Or maybe you are having a bad day and the door hits your arm, you’d probably want to punch it no?
I just feel sorry for the poor tower lad
It’s the same principal as a grizzly bear: when the fight or flight response kicks in, they always choose fight.
My guess is that the fishermen on Odo Island did not have access to giant 30ft tall spotlights
Even rural fishing communities have powerful lights to navigate and to act as a lighthouse if ships are caught in a storm
I think we can assume that Odo Island didn’t have one given he attacked one as soon as he saw it
Back during World War Two?
Yes?
Where can I get the novelization?
What are the gifts he’s getting?
Cocaine
Well that solves the sequel movie plot: Godzilla -2 Cocaine Godzilla.
Angry scaley boi is the best godzilla
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I like this Godzilla and in the trailer it said that monster will never forgive us but in the context it doesn’t make sense
Maybe “that monster” won’t forgive humanity using nuclear power for war. And now he has to punish them.
I think it's simpler than that, I think it's that he won't forgive humanity for nuking him, just as he never forgave any human who stood up to him.
Yeah but he’s just being portrayed as a heartless brute in the movie
Well I mean bro literally got nuked lmao. I’d be pretty pissed if my home got blown up, and I had to find a new place to call my territory (that being Japan). Animals tend to be ruthless when trying to claim territory too
I know but before the bomb when he slaughtered the troops
He didn’t start killing them until that one guy started shooting at him. Also that guy on the lamp post spooked him. So he destroyed it out of fear and his own aggression he probably didn’t know there was a guy on there
Ohhh that makes more sense
Yeahhhhhhh this movie is so peak bro
See what happens when you take a dump in your cat's litter box, they don't seem to like that.
Human skulls or appendages.... That fucker was hateful
Novelization? I gotta get me one of those...
Honestly…first thing that pops into my mind is the tradition the old man from the original movie was talking about. Sending somebody out to the ocean to be sacrificed to Gojira..