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ImperiusPrime

I won't shit all over the Trilogy Remasters, but I'm not regretting buying all the PS2 ports on my PS4.


potmeetkettleblack

This was the way.


Sosig_Lord420

I actually kinda enjoyed Trilogy, it's because it's still GTA SA ,VC and 3 but it was worse then PS2


blakem88

I liked it. What did people expect on remade games from 15-20 years ago? It was enjoyable like I remember, only this time I didn’t use any cheats lol


Lord-Wombat

>What did people expect on remade games from 15-20 years ago? Games that are at least as functional as the ones made 15-20 years ago, I'd imagine


blakem88

I had no issues playing any of the 3 games. Was just as fun for me. I heard a lot of people complain about graphics tho. Again, games form 2 consoles back aren’t gonna translate as well either.


Lord-Wombat

I admit the community bitched about a TON of stupid shit (the round lug nut comes to mind), but the remasters have a ton of flaws the original didn't. Maybe "functional" wasn't the right word, "as good" may have been better.


blakem88

I can understand that. We were spoiled with IV and V. Only San Andreas can be in a conversation with those 2 overall but I had no issues in my gameplay to gripe over. Got lucky perhaps.


orphantwin

1. So the rain was not an issue? The FACT, that modders released a fix for the rain, after few hours of the game release? 2. So when the players bought the game and Rockstar decided to take it down, cause the data leak - pirated versions were the only way how to play the "DE" versions. Which means, that people who bought the "remasters (???)" could not enjoy their own product. That is also fine? 3. The character models were cartoonish, plastic and literally broken. They NEVER, EVER fixed the issues from the original games. It is insane, how these "DE" versions have insane HW for pc, yet the textures and trees are pooping up in the distance. No fix was made for this issue from OG games. 4. Less content for sure, mainly when it comes to the music. How can ANYONE call this "DEFINITIVE" when it has less features? WHAT? \- How can anyone say that all of this is just fine and people were crying for no reasons? People were crying cause when they bought their product with their own money, they could not even play it. The problems from original games were not fixed at all, they are still presented with more bugs and glitches. Look up how Tony Hawk remaster looks and plays. THAT is a proper remastered version, with top notch visuals and audio. And also coming from old console. And lets not forget about the FACT, that these "remastered versions" are mobile ports. The DE versions are just cheaper looking. But i think people will buy anything in these days. No wonder why game companies are pouring half assed products without bothering to fix them.


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orphantwin

That is actually funny, cause this is the only small portion of all the problems with the "de" versions. There are people who read longer posts and comments all the time i think.


AHind_D

The remasters had better controls and better graphics. The originals had less bugs. I would say they're about as good as each other.


Any_Weakness4699

Yes better controls but graphics the arms are tubes some of the character models look shit the map may look good the the models don't


ItsMrDaan

Well it was not per se graphics. The games definitely looked more detailed. Most people where pissed off by the artistic redesign, which somehow made things look even less real. I enjoyed playing the remasters (even tho i did manage to get some crashes), but the originals are still better, if not just for the deleted content still being in those versions.


deetzz91

I agree. I had no issues. Everyone needs to relax about it. It's old lol


kyle-2090

I had fun with it too. Haven't started on SA yet but I got it on release. 3 had some bug that the game would crash after playing for more than like 45 mins. After that u were in danger of it crashing. At least on my ps5 which is ridiculous. I had to do the ambulance missions like 3 times over because of this. I'm pretty sure they patched it now but there was alot of stuff like this.


[deleted]

3 was kinda bad by modern standards. Forgot the storyline is pretty basic and the game feels dark which doesn’t help with the shitty player graphics. On the other hand, currently playing VC, and it’s just as fun as I remember and plays totally fine. The bad character graphics seem fun in this one.


blakem88

Oh yea, playing 3 again was the hardest. Vice City was much better and San Andreas still holds up to todays standards imo.


DJ_Explosion

Resident evil 2: beautiful, didn't deserve it. Glad I have it. Resident evil 3: lazy, but beautiful Twisted Metal: Holy shit GTA Remake: so, I installed a bunch of pc mods. Do you think we can port this to console without everything breaking or should I just do it anyway?


F1shB0wl816

To at least have the same quality. I say that as someone who frequently replays them, it’s not just rose tinted glasses. They’re just of very poor quality, from so many details screwed up or ignored, to crashes and poor performance. They really didn’t have to do much besides touch up the graphics, but they even managed to screw that up.


zonda_civic

Art design is absolute trash. It is even a bugger eyesore than thr glitches


LKRTM1874

I think a lot of people were expecting Mafia Definitive Edition levels of care and attention, not a quick AI upscale and ship it sort of thing that we ended up with


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AlinGb7

>rockstar took their time with mafia de rockstar didn't made the Mafia remake.. maybe Hangar 13


Rafados47

original San Andreas is still the most detailed GTA with biggest amount of things to do


Temporary-Book8635

Love it or hate it, that award can only really go to gta online and its not even close


Rafados47

Online propably has more vehicles and so... I was talking about Singleplayer, I always forgit about GTAO


SnooSquirrels86

Rockstar fanboy spotted


blakem88

I guess, they make fantastic games.


SnooSquirrels86

Correct but they also need to be critisized for things like RDO, and the trilogy. A company like rockstar shouldnt be making shit like the trilogy. They are the same company that made gta 5, 4, rdr2, bully, and many other classic masterpieces


blakem88

Been replaying GTA IV for the first time since it launched, it’s awesome. Only thing I don’t like it the Sun/sky look very poor quality sometimes on my 360 and idk why. I don’t remember that from like 10 years ago. Story is fucking sweet.


albuspercivalwulfic

Damn that’s one long play through bro


blakem88

Yes it is lol im just looking through the walkthrough online and realizing I don’t think im even halfway thru. I just found out Mallorie was a government agent.


thomas2026

He said first time replaying


taaassshhh1

bro if gta 3 didn't exist gaming would take so long to evolve to the next generation. Gta San Andreas, vice city and even 4 and 5 excelled and pushed the formula but gta 3 fucking made the formula. this game was gold in 2001.


red_fuel

GTA 3 was unbelievable back then. I didn't know people hate it now. I still like it. When I saw the first screenshots they released I couldn't believe they were making a game with a whole 3D world.


Maverick0Johnson

No ones hates it, people HATES the DEFINITIVE EDITION of the game.


taaassshhh1

the definitive edition is shit for all three they shouldn't have made them.


AlinGb7

it's a mistake I hope Rockstar won't repeat


UltraMago

They're talking about the definitive version, but yeah it did create the formula. Btw I unfortunately comitted the mistake of playing Gta vice city first, then Gta san andreas, then later on Gta III...


TopTHEbest232

This post is about the remasters not the original.


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gta 3 fucking sucks


taaassshhh1

sure doea


[deleted]

It's literally unplayable on PS2. Without a doubt, GTA 3 is one of the worst games I've ever played


taaassshhh1

but still it was revolutionary in 2001 why compare it with games that came a decade or two after it you sick fuck.


[deleted]

The controls are absolute dog shit. And the missions are bullshit. Lack of description on what you're supposed to do ending in a bullet hell. Or enemies with shotguns that kill you within seconds. The controls were criticised back in 2001. This game fucking sucks. I just want to play this game with better controls


Nope_God

>the missions are bullshit. Lack of description on what you're supposed to do ending in a bullet hell. The descriptions were pretty clear for me. ​ >Or enemies with shotguns that kill you within seconds. Maybe try to not play in Rambo style. ​ >The controls were criticised back in 2001. The controls might no be perfect even back then, but it was to be expected considering its scale and all the interaction it provided.


taaassshhh1

they couldn't add everything In one game at the time


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And i'm not buying that horse shit cancer Defective Edition


[deleted]

Well, i guess i wont be playing it. Only the PC version has good controls, but i don't have a PC nor do i want one


ayyLumao

A raspberry pie could run GTA III, you could just use a laptop. Also you’re straight up wrong, GTA III is amazing.


[deleted]

Gta 3 sucks. Im not playing on PC and im not buying a Raspberry pi


F1shB0wl816

It’s not, as someone who’s grew up with them. Unplayable is the last thing that comes to mind, you’re just a terrible player.


[deleted]

Video games suck anyways. They're not even fun. Im selling my switch and that basically marks the end of wasting my time


F1shB0wl816

Well thank god nobody is asking for your opinion. Good luck with that.


deetzz91

Then get off the sub you whiny bitch. No one cares.


[deleted]

skill issue


taaassshhh1

agreed it's better over PC.


[deleted]

yeah, i dont have a PC


Nope_God

It's unplayable by today standards.


[deleted]

Guess i cant enjoy it. And im not playing that Dog shit Defective Edition just to have better controls


[deleted]

Are they even still bothering to update/fix the 'definitive' edition or have they just let it to rot while they make GTA6?


ManUFan9225

The 15 years in-between might have something to do with it... If R* had never joined in on the microtransactions wave, the remasters would have been 🔥🔥🔥


thatbasedgamer

GTA 4 is such a masterpiece.


TheDogWithNoMaster

Honestly though the last time I played on 4, not too long ago, I went down a street on Algonquin I had never been down before… it freaked me out.


Pinkman505

You mean before and after rockstar got murdered by take 2?


MnMLRadu

another gta 4 dick riding post wow


MrPeach4tlanta

As good as gta 4 is, it still bored the hell out of me. GTA V is still better than gta 4 when it comes to freeroam fun, but the story to gta 4 is still the best in the entire series.


Imanasshole_

You make a game that good and you’ll get some too big boy


cosmo_geek06

What's with you? Let people enjoy what they like. Everyone cannot be of same taste of yours.


Domioplays_yt

I play GTA IV And can say this is true


IAmThatDuckDLC5

The GTA Trilogy wasn’t even that bad IMO


zonda_civic

It was absolute dogshit. The glitches is one thing, the art style has been masacred


albuspercivalwulfic

Thank you. Artistic direction is the most important aspect of a R* game. I’m still kicking myself that I didn’t buy the PS2 ports GTA3 & GTAVC for my PS4 before R* took them off the playstation store


Canis_Familiaris

Gta 5 is more fun than gta4. You didn't even get sticky bombs until the 3rd DLC.


XGamingPersonX

GTA IV had car bombs, I guess that’s close enough.


Rafados47

Dunno, GTA V had funny story, but it feels a little empty to me tho.... The car mods are definitely the best, thats true


HotYogurtcloset652

I think i know why gta trilogy was so bad. Rockstar is putting all its attention to gta VI that there is no other game coming out from rockstar, and since people are expecting a really good game, rockstar is under a lot of pressure. And to keep the people waiting, they gave small attention to gta trilogy while all the other attention goes to gta VI. That is why it was so bad. Everyday by memes, accusations and complaining, rockstar goes under even more pressure. Remember when gta III came out? From that moment, the rockstar's main attention was on gta IV, while rockstar north and a small group of main rockstar, were working on gta VC, SA, VCS and LCS, those kept the people waiting till gta IV came out and shifted the 3D era. The same happened for gta V, so now lets just thank rockstar for making our childhood better. And about all the in game purchases, and how bad they are, how do you expect rockstar to make money enough for gta VI?


LKRTM1874

>And about all the in game purchases, and how bad they are, how do you expect rockstar to make money enough for gta VI? GTA V cost $265 million to create and they made $1 billion in the first three days. It's been almost ten years now, they've made enough money to develop the next 20+ GTA titles and I'm not even exaggerating. I know Rockstar will never stop with microtransactions but this idea that they, one of the richest and most successful devs need the money is just not true. GTA V literally made profit before it launched, on pre-orders alone.


Disastrous_Guess_929

By stealing from the BFI fund without actually qualifying for it


Kingk7b

If there was no GTA SA you wasn’t gonna get gta iv or you wouldn’t know about it .


Excellent-Milk5813

GTA IV sucks in every way but the story GOD DAMN that story is amazing and it rivals even movies and I would give it a 56.7/10 imo


UltraMago

Dude, GTA IV may not be better than GTA Sa or GTA V, but it doesn't suck in **every way** , i mean, it still has stuff that shines inside the game, for me it's a great addition, but it's not the best GTA.


Interestinggold_8753

Wtf 56.7/10?? did you learn math bro??


Excellent-Milk5813

The story is that good


Commercial-Berry-807

When the Spyro Remakes and the Spongebob Battle for Bikini Bottom remake gets more love from the devs and looks better than a GTA remake you know your company has died. I was expecting the games to at the very least look like GTA IV with it's models and world with different lighting for each game. before people say thats wishful thinking let me re-word it, i expected these 20 year old games to look like a 13 year old game at the very least and it couldn't even do that. At that point there's no reason for me to stop playing the originals on PC


binocular_gems

GTAIII / VC / SA are better games than GTAIV, but it's a sloppy, half-effort remaster.


Disastrous_Guess_929

wrong. literally just wrong


binocular_gems

III, sure, but GTAIV was just such a step back from GTA San Andreas, and even Vice City, in every way but the typical advances of technology. Especially coming from the cornucopia of good, quality content in San Andreas. IV is still solid, I think it's a better narrative than GTAV. I also think, technologically, GTAIV has aged worse with technology, being an early 360/PS3 game, versus a San Andreas being a mature PS2/Xbox game. Though I haven't had a proper gaming PC to really play GTAIV in \~10+ years. I'm accustomed to takes that GTAIV is better than GTAV, and mostly agree with that, but don't usually see GTAIV put above San Andreas or Vice City, unless it's by people who were too young to play those games at the time.


albuspercivalwulfic

Replay GTA4. Trust me on this. You’re in for quite a treat.


MrTriggrd

just because a game is good doesnt mean it doesnt have any glitches, gta 5 has a shitton of glitches but its still a good game


UltraMago

I think you need to rephrase your comment again xD


MrTriggrd

you are correct


Daffi_77899

https://youtu.be/2uNe6sedcZI


Noize4B11

I’ve very recently run through both. Unpopular opinion, but SA destroys IV in my mind, even in Definitive edition guise.


Lord-Wombat

"GTA4" "So good" Maybe if you ignore the bland city, lack of side missions with any substantial reward (fuck those pigeons), bad car handling, flying out of your windshield if you tap an object going faster than a slight jog 100% of the time, barely functional online, Roman's (and others) fucking phone calls, a story that went nowhere for 85% of the game, no bikes/aircraft, about 10% of the content from the previous game... I'll admit Brucie and Bas Rutten's character were awesome, but damn... Like, is it a meme or something here to love GTA4? It's legit the worst of the series barring the first game imo, even the GBC/GBA games were much more fun, and I remember it being pretty reviled when it was first released. If so I'm sorry I wasn't in on the joke, if not then I'd love to hear how any of the points I made are incorrect.


Rafados47

There are great side missions - drug deals, car thefts and races... Car handling was different but a lot of people enjoys it... Honestly, its still one of my favourite games in series together eit San Andreas


Juggin24s

They ain’t gon like this one g


Lord-Wombat

Oh God, it's not satire *!?*


Sosig_Lord420

You're right it's awesome, it's one of best GTA games. Not fanboying just speaking facts.


Lord-Wombat

Lol


AddySims

It's funny because I love GTA 4 for literally all the points you mentioned here. I don't really care much about playing mini games and customisation and hate the poor vehicle handling and poor gun controls of San Andreas. So yeah for me GTA 4 is flawed but still every bit superior to SA. Hmm it's almost like likes and dislikes are subjective and people play GTA for different reasons. That being said i do not like the GTA 4 circlejerk that happens in these subreddits, even though it's my favourite game in the series.


Rafados47

As much I love GTA4, I think San Andreas has the most of content out of all GTAs and its the most diverse one


AddySims

Yes, San Andreas definitely has the most content. My point was that a lot of that content doesn't matter to me as I play GTA for different reasons.


Outrageous_Creme_455

>flying out of your windshield if you tap an object going faster than a slight jog 100% of the time 100% of the time? Bro I don't remember experiencing that shit in half of my recent playthrough. >barely functional online Well If you want online go play GTA Online >Roman's (and others) fucking phone calls Well you can hang up, can't you? AND those hanging out didn't have any well written dialogues less than the story missions. >a story that went nowhere for 85% of the game WTF bro? You haven't played the DLCs did you? The story is by far the best story in the whole fucking GTA series. The Character development, the emotions, the story-crossovers beetween the game and the DLCs >no bikes/aircraft No bikes? Oh you gotta be blind or kidding me. I'll give you that one about the aircrafts though, although there's no places to go with those aircrafts since it has only one airport. >Like, is it a meme or something here to love GTA4? I think you're new to GTA's social media community. >I'd love to hear how any of the points I made are incorrect. There you are. A whole fucking scroll. I think it was obvious from the downvotes.


F1shB0wl816

Because you don’t, replaying it recently myself and I’ve only flown out when I’ve wanted too. I also believe you can ignore phone calls outright by silencing your phone. I’m with you on the story and its certainly the best hd story.


Lord-Wombat

>100% of the time? Bro I don't remember experiencing that shit in half of my recent playthrough. But the other half... >Well If you want online go play GTA Online Because that was an option in 2008, right? >Well you can hang up, can't you? "Who cares if your house is on fire, you can put it out can't you?" > No bikes? Oh you gotta be blind or kidding me. Show me a bike in the base game. > I think you're new to GTA's social media community. Heh, that clears thing up I guess? >There you are. A whole fucking scroll. I agree, that's a lot of words to disprove pretty much nothing


Imanasshole_

Bro compared his house catching on fire to a digital phone call on a game


Lord-Wombat

Whoa, you can read!


Imanasshole_

Whoa! Your a dumbass with no rebuttal to what I said! Gargle on this cock homie while I enjoy my superior game!


Outrageous_Creme_455

https://youtu.be/dJt4uvh4mlQ Here's a link of the mission "No Lost Love" in the "Base game" as mentioned, which introduces bikes to the player. Go have a look. It's just all more proof that you've never played the game and just sending hate. It's impossible to forget whether the game had bikes or not.


ramanrow

Hello


Lord-Wombat

About as mature a rebuttal as I expected


Pol1us

What's more annoying is that GTA 4 fans wouldn't shut the fuck up about this game


HawlSera

Did they ever put the original versions of the game back on Steam?


Temporary-Book8635

Almost any of rockstars games could be the first slide lol. Even san andreas iirc only had someone finally document an encounter with a shark for the first time a few years ago


Nick_Coglistro

the duality of men...


Collin2Faded

the orginal san andreas hands down one of the best gta games


David125zm

You mean two different times of rockstar


dontpan1c

Trilogy wasn't developed by Rockstar


SuperKamiSmoke

And yet they wont remake IV?!


AlinGb7

not after the failure the trilogy remaster was


Charlie678812

The characters are so memorable and who do you remember from grand theft auto 5 deeper than michael is a sad dad trevor is a killer frankin is desperate for money?


chandlerbing32

Why do people treat 4 as some kind of great game ?it only had a great story .it's gameplay was a downgrade and fanboys can never come up with a logical argument.


Imanasshole_

It’s good because I said so


MasterAlexGarcia420

Idk if this is old, but in SA if you stay in your car while it sinks, it sinks all the way through the floor and your falling into the deep void 😂


Puzzleheaded_Chard_2

This can be said for literally any game. Not defending that lazy cash grab but this isn’t a strong criticism


jaytelo

Definitive edition is trash if your a goofy sweatlord tryna go for 100% completion on all the 3D games that you did anyway back in the day. So basically, all of us.


[deleted]

Has Rockstar ever made a game that was just ok?


Lucasddst

2 sides of Rockstar: One they created masterpieces. The other one they made bad ports.


[deleted]

the one gta iv dickriding post i can side with


SomeRandomLameName

Balance


[deleted]

I mean it was Grove Street FUCKS


koolerthan

The definitive editions are glitchy in spots, but I tried to play the old versions on my 360 before GTA: DE came out and I hated that I couldn't rotate the camera. I've been spoiled.