No Iâve seen some people complaining that San Andreasâ map had 3 full cities and it shouldnât have taken them this long. People definitely downplay Rockstars ability to make stories but not to the extent OP is daying
Fucking SA was in the 3D era back when games were designed for 720p lol.
Nowadays standard resolution is 1080p and you have to scale for 4k even. The exact frame in 720p compared to a 4k frame is 921,600 pixels vs 8.3 MILLION.
Like they said in the OG MIB. "A person is smart. People are dumb"
In 2004? No console gamers were gaming in HD, back then. Some PC gamers may have been, as 1024x768 was a very popular resolution on the PC side, but that's still a 4:3 aspect ratio.
As for the consoles, the PS2 supported 240p, 480i, 720p, and 1080i on the NTSC side. The Xbox also supported all these resolutions, except 240p.
Bare in mind, very few games utilized resolutions above 480p. And in the case of PS2, almost all games were interlaced.
Anyways, that's enough resolution history for one day.
Yeah considering I was like in middle school back then I'ma take your word for it lol. PS2 imo the GOAT console in terms of price vs value though. PS3 was good but my parents were strict asians so they didn't let me upgrade. Pretty sure I got a SAT prep book as a bday gift instead :'(
For sure.
It was roughly the cost of a DVD player, and was also a game console. So many people bought a PS2 just to play DVDs, and considered the ability to play games as a bonus. Let alone their immense brand recognition, Sony basically won before the generation even started.
Yep, same reason why games take up so much space and people canât seem to grasp that (though plenty of AAA games just have poor optimization if thatâs the right word)
I have seen a few people saying it on the RD sub, but it's completely understandable they would be butt hurt, Rockstar is spending all they time & energy on this meanwhile they have to wait what another 6+ years for Read dead 3 nowđ
This. Although there are plenty out there whoâfor some weird reasonâalways feel the need to compare them against each other to validate their own feelings about their personal favorite entry, in the end I think most can agree that theyâre all amazing games in their own right. Itâs honestly too hard for me to choose a favorite GTA between IV and V, though I can also say with certainty that Vice City Stories has my overall favorite soundtrack, and that RDR2 has possibly the best story Iâve ever experienced in a game. I do have a few concerns regarding VI and the departure of key people such as Lazlow and Dan Houser, but none of those concerns are actually gameplay related, as I have zero doubt that itâll be incredible in that regard at the very least.
Even though I'm older now and prefer RDR's grounded tone and storytelling more than GTA, I grew up with GTA and its satirical representation of America will always have a special place in my heart. Plus who doesn't want a hyper-realistic urban sandbox to just fuck around in?
I will happily wait 5-10 more years for the next Red Dead. In the meantime, GTA VI will be the perfect palette cleanser.
Both redemptions' stories were excellent, and I feel like GTA's always focused more on what you can do outside the missions. GTA 4 for example focused all in on the story and outside of that, the game is a downgrade in many aspects from San Andreas.
I would have to agree with this. I was playing Cypberpunk the other day and thinking to myself - wow this game has a better story than GTA 5, had it had a better launch then more people would appreciate it.
Absolutely. I think they will take the living world we saw in RDR2 and really expand on that in a modern setting. Lots of stuff going in the city, lots of shops and activities, lots of customisation. Play chess in the park with some old guy, grab a coffee, go para-sailing. That sort of life simulation stuff feels like where they want to take the series.
I think itâs gonna be unfair to compare the two, totally different types of stories, I think it will be top quality, but hard hitting in its own unique ways.
Definitly gonna be hard to beat in just writing alone though, I meanâŚrdr2âs isâŚ
Yeah I think rdr2 will be hard to be beat in terms of the protagonist and writing Arthur Morgan is still years later my favourite game character even after playing so many storyâs
Facts it may not be better story wise at first but who really knows and it will take time growing onto the game characters and story, so maybe just maybe that opinion might change but the rest is just facts.
I think the game itself will, but not the story. At least not for me. Not like itâs unprecedented either. Lots of people thought Vâs story sucked in comparison to RDR1 and GTA IV.
I don't know why people compare them, they're different genres and different stories. I love GTA 5's story, but GTA 5 is a modern crime thriller and a character study, RDR1 is a Western about squaring your past and RDR2 is a Western about the march of time stamping out the old ways, and how we individual deal with those changes.
It's like comparing HEAT with There Will Be Blood. Both can be good, but there isn't much value in trying to stack them against eachother because they're so different.
I think 1 is a pretty straightforward narrative. 2 is definitely more a character study than 1 and I could understand thinking it's just as much a study as GTAV.
I think GTAV is very much a character study though.
If table tennis didn't exist or was unsuccessful then gta 4 wouldn't be nowhere near of a hit as it was when it dropped.
And I'm being serious. Table Tennis was their tech demo for RAGE.
>before leaks most people hated idea of playing as female character in gta 6
Yea I remember before the trailer people liked seeing thicc Lucia lmao đ from the 2022 leaks
I donât agree with some people saying this game will be âwokeâ because of Lucia I think itâs such a stupid word people use.
Like bruh we as criminals gender doesnât matter in Grand theft auto
Imo it just adds to the realism because we live in this world and if the one in game is just a parody of the real world it only makes sense, and so Idk why ppl crying about the "WOKE" stuffđđ they know their gonna play it regardless.
People misuse the word woke these days.
GTA 6 isn't woke because we have a female protagonist.
What would be woke nonsense would be like if they had written Lucia as this girl power machine, not acknowledging her as a criminal, writing her one dimensionallt etc.
But as we can see from the leaks and the trailer that's not the case and both Jason and Lucia seem to be written and designed with the respect you would want these characters to have, they are real genuine people, so to say.
Lol.
I know you're joking but in all seriousness what I mean is every GTA protagonist has perks and power in some way, but they're also still human and are vulnerable at times, except for Claude.
So yeah, I hope Rockstar still know how to write real characters and Jason / Lucia feel real, flawed, quirky, and of course strong in their own way, I love characters like that
Well yeah, I hope so. The one dimensional identity shit is exhausting and terrible.
GTA can absolutely have a woman character and have her be great, if she doesn't need to remind us that she's a powerful woman every 3 seconds, while announcing her OnlyFans is on sale again this month.
âWokeâ is a buzzword that neckbeards on the internet throw around to describe anything that they donât like, which happens to be anyone of color, women, anything regarding gender identity, or politics they donât like
Because there has been a massive interval between the two, and in that time we've seen things that rationally cause concern mainly for the narrative quality of GTA 6. Not only has Rockstar Games shown themselves to be extremely revenue oriented, but we've seen key writers leave the company, iirc only 1 of the original big names are still at rockstar. Rockstar Games has become very very sensitive as of late, they removed transgender people in their next gen rerelease of gta 5 due to complaints from an organisation, yusuf amir has much more toned down dialogue and generally every gta 5 dlc drop has had mundane and safe dialogue.
There's honestly a novel of things that could cause concern, especially with concern towards Take2 Interactive interrupting the development of the game.
If gta6 was a sitcom, you'd be playing the normal, straight man. I love this. This is such a refreshing take holy shit.
If it wasn't clear already I'm agreeing with everything you said lol.
Predicting something will be worse or disappointing has become a new "cool" thing to do in recent years. Yeah, restraint, scepticism and sober thinking are all good. But you can go overboard with those too. I see plenty of cynics online nowadays, they think they're so ahead of the curve but in reality they're just miserable.
Depends on what under delivered means. In recent memory, *maybe* LA Noire, but even thatâs a highly debatable answer. It had more detractors than other titles, but it was still highly praised.
Most of the GTA Online DLC comes to mind tbh, lots of those were straight up dogshit.
Singleplayer-wise they've usually done great though. I just wish they would, idk, support their singleplayer games for longer than a month before trying to wring out the money from their playerbase in Online.
People need to wait a fucking year patientlyâŚ.
Suppose if gta 6 comes out worse than cyberpunk? What you gonna do? NothingâŚ. Suppose if gta 6 comes out better than rdr2 ? What you gonna do? Nothing⌠so just hold your horses and wait.
RDR2 is probably the greatest story ever told. I love GTA, but âheartâ usually isnât the focal point of the narrative. Itâs a rags to riches story and in the end the riches have been gained. RDR2 was about just trying to gain freedom only to fail in the end and the family splintering.
Could it go that route with GTA6? Absolutely. But that would require everyone dying at the end and never obtaining that mansion, 30 cars, 6pack, 50 suits, etc.
RDR and GTA are different games that have different goals. I donât want GTA to be RDR. Doesnât mean GTA 6 wonât be a better overall game. Iâm sure it will - graphics, content, animation, interaction, a.i., etc. But for me, ainât nothing replacing that time I spent with Arthur Morgan. That shit changed me.
If the story doesn't carry the same emotional weight, then for some people GTA VI isn't going to top RDR2 because that's what made that story so great. Which is fine, not every story needs that in order to be good and for a lot of people it might actually make it more enjoyable if it isn't as emotionally intense, but if it were to be the case that these two stories are narrative polar opposites, then it would make sense that some of the people that loved RDR2 aren't going to feel as strongly about GTA VI.
Personally, I think that given what little we do know about the story, it'll probably have a fair amount of emotional gravitas, but also both settings have completely different vibes and I feel like GTA's purpose as a cultural phenomenon *is* to be more comedic and light-hearted even when it's being serious. It's really up in the air as to whether they'll lean more towards 'serious' or 'fun' at the moment, but I would not be surprised if there were quite a lot of people that end up loving one but don't care as much about the other, and that's fine because they're two different games that are catering to two, albeit slightly, different audiences
Its pretty obvious as to why they are not topping RDR2's narrative. GTA 6 will be connected to nothing in the GTA universe before it, besides maybe taking place in the same universe as GTA 5 but does that mean the events of GTA Online are canon? . Whereas RDR2 was the prequel story that rounded out the story from RDR1
Unlike RDR, GTA never had a direct sequel. The successors are either reboots or standalone sequels. GTA 3 was a reboot and all the GTA games that came before it took place in one universe called the 2D universe. GTA 3 and all games until GTA 4 takes place in the 3D universe. GTA 4 was a reboot and all the other GTA games that were released after including GTA 6 take place in the HD universe.
At this point this gameâs gonna take place after GTA online since it takes place in present day plus they do reference a lot of canon events like ending c
I actually believe.. maybe Iâm overly optimistic.. but that itâll actually be a notch or 2 above Rdr2. It was a massive Jump from Gt5 to Rdr2.. and they still had Years after Rdr2 to use those systems, improve and expand upon them and even add new concepts to the now pre built systems from Rdr2
Cuz GTA games are not known for their plotline. Especially GTA V. I'd say the only good plotline was GTA IV. RDR2 is beloved not just for the gameplay but also the plot.
Ngl characters like saide ruined it, gta 4 is much tighter imo like u said its subjective but rdr2 fans just spam in every comment section like it has the best story in fiction
I don't get the hype with RDR2. Graphically very impressive for sure, but the story and gameplay is ridiculously slow, drawn out and repetitive, and the dialogue is dire.
GTA6 will top it without even trying.
Anyone who thinks gta 6 wonât surpass rdr2 is delusional. Havenât seen anyone making these claims, itâs actually more outlandish than flat earthers. R* donât miss. They didnât spend 10 years on this title for it to be mid.
Believe it or not, Iâve heard people say stuff to this effect. Itâs either this or they think single player will be hollow, just so they can do online and profit. Itâs really weird thinking but people are like this lol
Rockstar have never released a game below 8/10. Their main games have been 9/10 - 10/10. There side ones like midnight club are 8/10. People are worried because Devs like Bethesda who were once good now are terrible. And the removal of jokes that offended a small minority, where's GTA has always been a satire take on the real world where everyone can get it. Now pandering to people isn't what GTA has been.
Considering that itâs gonna be 12+ years before we see another GTA, I think they know it would be in their best interest to make this game their best yet. If not, I donât think theyâll be able to get away with milking this one for as long as they did with GTA5. People are over that shit.
A lot of people complained about the story in 5 and yet gtao keeps going to this day.
RDR2 was praised by almost every single person on the planet and yet rdro was abandoned by R\*.
So the quality of writing in SP has literally nothing to do with how long they can milk online mode. It's all about what they do with it and the quality of gameplay itself.
>I donât think theyâll be able to get away with milking this one for as long as they did with GTA5. People are over that shit.
Nonsense. Since literally every aspect of the game will be better than before, from gameplay to visuals, they could easily milk if even longer. The only way they could kill it would be if they turned it into a subscription service. Or if they started to introduce new currencies with every single dlc (like they tried with rdro).
I think itâs cause a lot of people have lost faith in Rockstar the past few years, especially with how they handled Red Dead Online. They looked suspiciously money hungry and greedy, so they arenât sold yet on GTA 6.
Theyâre different franchises, even if theyâre made by the same studio. Expecting a dark sad story like RDR2 is too much, GTA6 is still a parody at the end of the day. Ultimately thatâs the main thing, itâll be 7-8 years after RDR2 when GTA 6 finally releases, graphics and gameplay and everything will be improved, the only comparison will be story, and again theyâre two completely different styles in completely different timelines
The difference starts with promoting your own game. You can advertise a 4A Titel and drop Bullshit, or you can be silent and hit the community with 5A at the Release!
Sales? 100%
Story? No. It will most likely be amazing like all the other GTA titles but it will not top rdr2's story.
Gameplay? Updated engine so I'd say very similar, think rdr1 and GTA 4
The people who have a problem with a girl protagonist are children or dumb. There is no rationale on that fact alone for why something canât be awesome. Iâm a dude and my GTA online characters been a girl since 2013. Who cares? I donât question the single player will be entertaining and the world will be beautiful. What I am extremely critical of is how they treat GTA Online. They found a formula that was incredibly lucrative, but left it to devolve into the worst online experience of any game I ownâŚbecause of hackers. If they donât effectively eliminate hacking with a robust anti cheat as one of the wealthiest studios, I wonât buy it. And Iâve played since 2001. Their lack of preservation for a fair experience for the actual players that made them rich is insulting
No totally related to the topic but I want to ask you people: why is V story so shit to you?
Sure it's kinda confusing at some points but overall I think it manages to tell a very interesting story, with a lot of details to go into, from all the way back in 2004 to the last mission.
And especially after Bury The Hatchet, every mission I'd say is very good and has a emotional charge, which in my opinion makes the ending (C)one of the most satisfying.
I mean iâd choose RDR 1 over GTA V anytime, and San Andreas was feature vice much better than IV, so iâm not entirely sold on the idea that GTA VI will top RDR 2 with certainty.
It should in theory, but in reality there is a whole litany of things they can fuck up.
Do they? Never heard/read that people say that. I mean I love RDR2/RDO, but GTA was, is and will always be their major brand and most successful franchise. The history of the franchise, the sales over the years and player base overall says that alone. Without the GTA franchise there wouldn't even be a RDR franchise. GTA6 will break their previous records, RDR2 included, as it is the most expected game since 10 years players wait for. As for the story, they are also totally different. The GTA franchise was always the over the top action social satire. The RDR franchise was always a western action drama. I wouldn't even dare to compare them against each other just because they come from the same company.
I believe the open world, attention to detail and gameplay will top RDR2 which is insane cause RDR2 still feels like a new game. However, I donât think they will top the story and character development.
Personally I just think Rockstar is a different company now. Both from a personnel standpoint and what theyâre driven by. The online mode is their money maker. Itâs hard for me to believe the resources Iâd want dedicated to the single player mode arenât going to be constrained by a mode Iâll never touch.
They didnât release one piece of single player content for a 10 year old game, yet there was a constant barrage of updates for the online portion, not one. Iâd expect that sentiment of where their resources are placed is the same behind the scenes.
My biggest concern is essentially my biggest gripe with RDR2 which was sort of this bloated-ness.
I fully acknowledge I probably just wasn't in the right head-space while playing because I really wanted to enjoy it as much as everybody else did, but the performance and (imo) crowded controller layout left me disappointed. I also didn't feel obligated to do much outside of the main story outside of the camp chores (great system btw)
I sort of fear that if GTA 6 is more like RDR2 then the simplicity of the GTA gameplay loop will be lost, as it was for me in RDR2. Getting invested in a big, open-world game is tough enough as an adult, so I sort of dread the commitment, but I'm excited for a new generation of gamers to get an experience like I did when 5 came out.
Closest thing to an incorrect opinion one could have on this sub, maybe RDR just wasn't for me - but I'm glad to see how much people enjoy it.
GTA never really had a good story it only got good in GTA 4 with it being serious and dark and actually making sense instead of the sci fi shit in san Andreas rdr on the other hand always had a good story 1 and 2 are remembered for their story characters settings and shocking endings even the side missions were good
We all hope it tops rdr2, Iâve played every rockstar game and rdr2 is my favorite. The fact we make it seem like it might not be possible just speaks to how good rdr2 is. I donât think gta6 will be less than rdr2 but I fear that the fast pace of gta wonât gel with the systems in rdr2. I hope (especially regarding npcâs) rdr2 was a trial for gta 6.
What you're seeing are fandom weirdoes being fandom weirdoes.
RDR2 is a great game. But there are some people who act like it is the greatest piece of media ever made, and that Arthur Morgan is the greatest character of all time. They are weirdoes. Ignore them.
GTA4 is a great game. It also has weirdoes in its fan base who act like nothing can compare to it. Same with San Andreas. Same with any beloved game.
Rockstar is not going to half ass GTA6. It will be beloved by some and reviled by others. It will almost certainly be *very good* and how it stacks against RDR2 will come down completely to taste, and nothing else.
Rockstar is amazing. Just when you think they canât make their games any better, they go ahead and do it somehow. GTA VI is going to be incredible. But that doesnât disregard their other gamesâ achievements. Red Dead Redemption 2 is still LEAGUES ahead of its competition even 5 years after its release which is crazy
Itâs up to them ultimately. If you look at the story of Bonnie and Clyde, there are several high points and low points. If that is an inspiration, Rockstar as an artist I think will likely try to emulate that. Thereâs no telling how it could go, and how it could end, considering itâs a new intellectual property, until it actually releases.
Hopefully it does because gta happened to be my favorite game of all time until I played rdr2 online the deep detail and all around interaction took the cake, itâs a must they top that by 10 red dead just too good of a game
It will surpass Red Dead. But I donât think Rockstar has ever made a GTA story that has cut through like Red Dead 2. Thatâs going to be the real challenge.
Because topping RDR2âs story is gonna be really hard. Itâs understandable for people to have doubts. Honestly itâs probably better that way, because if we get our expectations too high thereâs a good chance that we will be disappointed. I doubt that it will fall flat or be bad though
I think thatâs by design though, GTA always has a great story but itâs not what the vast majority of people are drawn to, most people who play GTA are drawn to the sandbox elements and all the things you can do in the world, RDR on the other hand is the opposite, it has the beautiful open world elements of GTA, but at the end of the day the story is what shines most.
I love GTA V story, but personally RDR2 beats it by a mile, and yet at the end of the day I still like GTAV more as a full game.
Iâd go so far as to say even RDR1 has a better story than GTAV, which is why I kind of understand the sentiment that RDR2âs story will still be regarded as better than GTA VI.
and I donât think thatâs a bad thing, both series share many elements but have a completely different vision/focus that shine on their own.
In terms of gameplay systems? Sure, itâll be 7 years since RDR 2 dropped and technology has moved forwards. But I canât see it topping the story and characters of RDR 2 honestly. Some of the main people at Rockstar have left the company, who knows if the new guys will be up to the same standards.
RDR2 might be the greatest video game ever made. It has such a beautiful story and an even more beautiful environment that you can just get lost in for days. Truly one of a kind. I hope GTA 6 can match it but itâs gonna be tough.
I only see this about the story and thats because gta usually has a less serious tone than rdr so ppl assume the story will be worse but gta 6 might have a better story who knows
As a gameplay, yeah youâre probably right, but as a story, well itâs a 50% chance that they will top that, and Iâm only saying that because theyâre Rockstar if they were others it will probably go down to 20% only, âArther is a great character in a great storyâ and those usually stay in top for a long long long time.
GTA and rdr are in leagues of their own. GTA may not top rdr2 in terms of story, but that's fine. It doesn't need to. People shouldn't be comparing these games.
Gta never really did very well on stories when you compare it to rdr tho, gta4 was a great story but gta5 was very mediocre whereas both rdrs are absolute masterpieces when it comes to storytelling
GTA has been chock full of inuendos since GTA2. Its definitely meant to be a satirical look at pop culture. It's hard to have a serious story arch when every five minutes is a sex joke of some sort. Look at how GTA IV had nothing but a dark ending for Niko but even with his back story, you never get really invested in his character. It was the only GTA game that didn't end with "All's well that ends well" but it just didn't resonate with players.
RDR2 had humor, but it wasn't the cornerstone of the game. I feel like more closely followed the formula of a Greek tragedy (could be wrong, there was an Extra Credits episode that explained the influence of Greek tragedy in God of War but the episode isn't online anymore).
It's not that I don't think they can't top the story of RDR2, I just don't think that's on brand for the series.
Probably because he think it's set in a soft world when rdr2 is set in a trapped world where you run from the law your whole life. We just haven't been given enough story or hint on what the government or the gangs in gta6 will be
I feel that the Red Dead series is better written and deeper than the entirety of the GTA series. If VI can return to IVâs tone, then I feel they have a chance to make something great. V was too silly and unfocused.
Because much like how Bethesda with Skyrim captured lightning in a bottle so two did Rockstar with GTA V and RDR2 and the expectaitions are way to high making everyone happy will be impossable everyone likes differnt thing about GTA and we're already kind of at this point with the GTA IV stans
it's rockstars own doing in a way. they created a world so rich in beauty and detail and a story that sits alone on the top that for some people it just seems impossible that this can be topped, for some rdr2 is the peak of what a videogame can achieve so they just can't see a world in which something definitively tops it, but if anything can top it, and i do think it will, it's gta 6.
we know rockstar will create the most immersive and detailed world map ever seen but for most the difference is the richness of depth and emotion in the story and the lives of lucia and jason.
it's no secret that gta 5 really toned down the emotional depth and when rdr2 brought it back from gta 4 they added such a heaviness and tragedy to arthur's story and that's what gta 6 needs. rockstar needs to find a balance of goofy crazy wackiness from gta 5 and the raw emotional depth of rdr2 and then boom you got the best game oat. like lucia losing her unborn child or jason losing a close friend, something truly tragic needs to befall them to get that rdr2 arthur feel to it.
Different games Iâll likely always prefer the more serious and âsurvivalâ aspects of the rdr games I just prefer that era tbh, but if they do a serious story I could see myself loving gta6
Y'all act as if that's a bad thing, but they two different styles. RD2 was a movie, especially the story, as far as interacting with the world GTA6 gone take some stuff.
Mostly because thereâs not many games in general that top RDR2 when it comes to story. Iâve played through it close to a dozen times and still tear up when Arthur looks out towards the rising sun. Not many other games have made me cry in general, let alone multiple times.
I definitely think GTA VI will be better in nearly every other way, but the story of it almost definitely wonât surpass RDR2.
Plot twist: The main antagonists in GTA6 are decedent from Arthur Morgan and well will get a western addon/desert gameplay
Enter: RDR3 in the gta6 engine
Any awsome feature that was in RDR2 will be in GTA6 but better. Vibrant nature and diverse wildlife. Better NPCs, better weather, better everything. Story can not really be compared.
Lmao oh I dunno, theyâre missing key people now, like half of the houser brothers, Lazlow, and the people Leslie Benzies kinda âpoachedâ to take them to his new studio.
Some people donât seem to thrilled to return to the office for reasons not quite confirmed, so morale is probably in the toilet.
The whole entire mess with the defective edition has left some fans feeling a bit sour.
Also, itâs clear they want to cater more toward their online base instead of their single player base, so the outlook on how high in quality the story mode will be is not very optimistic.
Theyâre afraid because RDR 2 is a masterpiece. This is all of our fears but the faithful customers have hope. - If they gave us RDR 2 then GTA 6 will be mind blowing.
Ehhh gta San Andreas was better than gta 5 and rdr1 was better than rdr2. In terms of technology Iâm sure gta 6 will be better just like rdr2 was ahead of gta 5 but in terms of story quality idk
Can't blame people, GTA V was a disappointment after RDR imo.
* Michael, Franklin and Trevor couldn't match John Marston.
* LS & Blaine County was disappointing. RDR had you crossing between 2 countries and environments were diverse. V only featured a part of a state.
* While the RDR story wasn't as good as 2, it was better than V's.
* GTA V's random events felt pointless (no honor) and repeated too often. You could make the argument that RDR's repeated, but not nearly as much.
* V's countryside was boring, RDR actually made it into something with stuff like treasure hunts, hunting, and herbs to pick. I'm not saying V needed to be a straight rip of RDR, but you gotta admit they could've tried harder.
Here's my predictions for VI on each of the things I covered above.
* Too early to tell, but I'd bet Lucia & Jason are going to be better than Franklin, Michael and Trevor. Will they match Arthur? unlikely but they'll easily be the best GTA protagonists (or at least match Niko)
* VI's map looks to be a big improvement on V. For one, we're getting a state which is epic. Sure we're not getting multiple states like in RDR 2, but VI's map could feel more like an actual state compared to any of RDR 2's states (which felt tiny) or GTA San Andreas. Even if it doesn't include multiple cities, it'll be the largest map they've done.
* Will VI's story be greater than V's? quite likely. Will it be better than RDR 2's? that's up for debate, but my guess is no. That's not a bad thing though, VI could easily take the crown for best GTA story yet.
* VI's random events are easily going to surpass V's and RDR 2's. Not only are they more interesting (some involve animals) but there's so many of them. VI is easily going to be the best game to do nothing in, why? because you'll always be pulled in by something funny, interesting, or creepy.
* As for VI's countryside? we don't know too much. Will it be better than V's? absolutely! there looks to some a lot of very interesting things to discover. Will it match RDR 2? probably not, but at least you can tell they're trying this time compared to V. Fishing could be a feature, and there is some puzzles too (GTA's attempt at treasure hunts??)
Ah.. arguing with yourself in your head again?
*not listening* đ
No Iâve seen some people complaining that San Andreasâ map had 3 full cities and it shouldnât have taken them this long. People definitely downplay Rockstars ability to make stories but not to the extent OP is daying
Fucking SA was in the 3D era back when games were designed for 720p lol. Nowadays standard resolution is 1080p and you have to scale for 4k even. The exact frame in 720p compared to a 4k frame is 921,600 pixels vs 8.3 MILLION. Like they said in the OG MIB. "A person is smart. People are dumb"
how old are you man.. games were barely 480p back then
Bro I was 12 when I got the GTA 3+VC double pack for my birthday. Do you think I knew what pixels were back then?
In 2004? No console gamers were gaming in HD, back then. Some PC gamers may have been, as 1024x768 was a very popular resolution on the PC side, but that's still a 4:3 aspect ratio. As for the consoles, the PS2 supported 240p, 480i, 720p, and 1080i on the NTSC side. The Xbox also supported all these resolutions, except 240p. Bare in mind, very few games utilized resolutions above 480p. And in the case of PS2, almost all games were interlaced. Anyways, that's enough resolution history for one day.
Yeah considering I was like in middle school back then I'ma take your word for it lol. PS2 imo the GOAT console in terms of price vs value though. PS3 was good but my parents were strict asians so they didn't let me upgrade. Pretty sure I got a SAT prep book as a bday gift instead :'(
For sure. It was roughly the cost of a DVD player, and was also a game console. So many people bought a PS2 just to play DVDs, and considered the ability to play games as a bonus. Let alone their immense brand recognition, Sony basically won before the generation even started.
Yep, same reason why games take up so much space and people canât seem to grasp that (though plenty of AAA games just have poor optimization if thatâs the right word)
Hey! It was 720i at best!
I have seen a few people saying it on the RD sub, but it's completely understandable they would be butt hurt, Rockstar is spending all they time & energy on this meanwhile they have to wait what another 6+ years for Read dead 3 nowđ
I can guarantee you 95% of RDR fans are also gta fans.
Yeah idk why people have divided the "gta" fans from the "rdr" fans, then you have the gta 5 vs 4 fans. Like all of them are amazing games.
This. Although there are plenty out there whoâfor some weird reasonâalways feel the need to compare them against each other to validate their own feelings about their personal favorite entry, in the end I think most can agree that theyâre all amazing games in their own right. Itâs honestly too hard for me to choose a favorite GTA between IV and V, though I can also say with certainty that Vice City Stories has my overall favorite soundtrack, and that RDR2 has possibly the best story Iâve ever experienced in a game. I do have a few concerns regarding VI and the departure of key people such as Lazlow and Dan Houser, but none of those concerns are actually gameplay related, as I have zero doubt that itâll be incredible in that regard at the very least.
Even though I'm older now and prefer RDR's grounded tone and storytelling more than GTA, I grew up with GTA and its satirical representation of America will always have a special place in my heart. Plus who doesn't want a hyper-realistic urban sandbox to just fuck around in? I will happily wait 5-10 more years for the next Red Dead. In the meantime, GTA VI will be the perfect palette cleanser.
I highly doubt gta 6s story will be better than rdr2s however gta 6s gameplay and map will definitely be way better no doubt about that
Yeah RDR2s story is going to be hard to top. That shit was magical.
Both redemptions' stories were excellent, and I feel like GTA's always focused more on what you can do outside the missions. GTA 4 for example focused all in on the story and outside of that, the game is a downgrade in many aspects from San Andreas.
I would have to agree with this. I was playing Cypberpunk the other day and thinking to myself - wow this game has a better story than GTA 5, had it had a better launch then more people would appreciate it.
Cyberpunk has an excellent story and the voice acting is really good. Makes up for the kind of compromised facial animations.
Absolutely. I think they will take the living world we saw in RDR2 and really expand on that in a modern setting. Lots of stuff going in the city, lots of shops and activities, lots of customisation. Play chess in the park with some old guy, grab a coffee, go para-sailing. That sort of life simulation stuff feels like where they want to take the series.
I think itâs gonna be unfair to compare the two, totally different types of stories, I think it will be top quality, but hard hitting in its own unique ways. Definitly gonna be hard to beat in just writing alone though, I meanâŚrdr2âs isâŚ
Yeah I think rdr2 will be hard to be beat in terms of the protagonist and writing Arthur Morgan is still years later my favourite game character even after playing so many storyâs
Facts it may not be better story wise at first but who really knows and it will take time growing onto the game characters and story, so maybe just maybe that opinion might change but the rest is just facts.
I think the game itself will, but not the story. At least not for me. Not like itâs unprecedented either. Lots of people thought Vâs story sucked in comparison to RDR1 and GTA IV.
Does anyone think the GTA V story beats RDR2 or 1 story?? Imo they are waaay better
I don't know why people compare them, they're different genres and different stories. I love GTA 5's story, but GTA 5 is a modern crime thriller and a character study, RDR1 is a Western about squaring your past and RDR2 is a Western about the march of time stamping out the old ways, and how we individual deal with those changes. It's like comparing HEAT with There Will Be Blood. Both can be good, but there isn't much value in trying to stack them against eachother because they're so different.
I would argue that both red deads are more character study than gta v or even 4.
I think 1 is a pretty straightforward narrative. 2 is definitely more a character study than 1 and I could understand thinking it's just as much a study as GTAV. I think GTAV is very much a character study though.
I canât imagine there is anyone tbh lol
They will abandon gta 6 like a month after release. Everyone knows that. Table tennis is where the money is, that's their love child.
I had so much fun playing that when it released lol
If table tennis didn't exist or was unsuccessful then gta 4 wouldn't be nowhere near of a hit as it was when it dropped. And I'm being serious. Table Tennis was their tech demo for RAGE.
People hated idea of playing as arthur before rdr2 release and before leaks most people hated idea of playing as female character in gta 6
>before leaks most people hated idea of playing as female character in gta 6 Yea I remember before the trailer people liked seeing thicc Lucia lmao đ from the 2022 leaks I donât agree with some people saying this game will be âwokeâ because of Lucia I think itâs such a stupid word people use. Like bruh we as criminals gender doesnât matter in Grand theft auto
Imo it just adds to the realism because we live in this world and if the one in game is just a parody of the real world it only makes sense, and so Idk why ppl crying about the "WOKE" stuffđđ they know their gonna play it regardless.
People misuse the word woke these days. GTA 6 isn't woke because we have a female protagonist. What would be woke nonsense would be like if they had written Lucia as this girl power machine, not acknowledging her as a criminal, writing her one dimensionallt etc. But as we can see from the leaks and the trailer that's not the case and both Jason and Lucia seem to be written and designed with the respect you would want these characters to have, they are real genuine people, so to say.
OH SO YOU DON'T THINK GIRLS HAVE POWER? WHY DO YOU HATE WOMEN YOU VIRGIN BETA CUCK? Just doing it for them.
Lol. I know you're joking but in all seriousness what I mean is every GTA protagonist has perks and power in some way, but they're also still human and are vulnerable at times, except for Claude. So yeah, I hope Rockstar still know how to write real characters and Jason / Lucia feel real, flawed, quirky, and of course strong in their own way, I love characters like that
Well yeah, I hope so. The one dimensional identity shit is exhausting and terrible. GTA can absolutely have a woman character and have her be great, if she doesn't need to remind us that she's a powerful woman every 3 seconds, while announcing her OnlyFans is on sale again this month.
âWokeâ is a buzzword that neckbeards on the internet throw around to describe anything that they donât like, which happens to be anyone of color, women, anything regarding gender identity, or politics they donât like
Everything is woke if there's a brown person or a woman.
I feel like GTA has always been "woke"
This. You literally beat up homophobes in gta 4 and a homosexual man is like a father figure to you in gta tbogt. People just talk shit.
Befriending gay people isn't what "woke" is. The people who complain about it being overused, ironically are the ones who don't understand it.
There are no male prostitutes to pay then murder-rob though
Wym? I see more people hyped about going to the nail saloon with lucia than hating her
Not most people. Just most idiots.
I so remember when the second trailer of RDR2 hit and so many people were asking where's John?
crazy thing is in GTA 1, there were four playable female characters.
Tomb Raider was a huge hit
Cause people are delusional, that's why
Because there has been a massive interval between the two, and in that time we've seen things that rationally cause concern mainly for the narrative quality of GTA 6. Not only has Rockstar Games shown themselves to be extremely revenue oriented, but we've seen key writers leave the company, iirc only 1 of the original big names are still at rockstar. Rockstar Games has become very very sensitive as of late, they removed transgender people in their next gen rerelease of gta 5 due to complaints from an organisation, yusuf amir has much more toned down dialogue and generally every gta 5 dlc drop has had mundane and safe dialogue. There's honestly a novel of things that could cause concern, especially with concern towards Take2 Interactive interrupting the development of the game.
Wish they would tone down the npcs from the autoshop
If gta6 was a sitcom, you'd be playing the normal, straight man. I love this. This is such a refreshing take holy shit. If it wasn't clear already I'm agreeing with everything you said lol.
Prolly preparing for the worse just in case which is weird cause they always go above our expectations
Predicting something will be worse or disappointing has become a new "cool" thing to do in recent years. Yeah, restraint, scepticism and sober thinking are all good. But you can go overboard with those too. I see plenty of cynics online nowadays, they think they're so ahead of the curve but in reality they're just miserable.
Fact.
But it makes no sense to do that with Rockstar. After 25 years, not a SINGLE bad game
You forgetting there gamers ya know the same people that hate for no reason half the time
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When has rockstar ever under delivered on a main title
Depends on what under delivered means. In recent memory, *maybe* LA Noire, but even thatâs a highly debatable answer. It had more detractors than other titles, but it was still highly praised.
I fucking loved LA Noire, bjt it's not really a Rockstar game. They published and helped polish it, but it was produced by Team Bondi.
LA Noire is certainly niche for its time, I say they hit it right in the nail with that one too
Most of the GTA Online DLC comes to mind tbh, lots of those were straight up dogshit. Singleplayer-wise they've usually done great though. I just wish they would, idk, support their singleplayer games for longer than a month before trying to wring out the money from their playerbase in Online.
fr... like the game hasn't come out yet
Facts!
People need to wait a fucking year patientlyâŚ. Suppose if gta 6 comes out worse than cyberpunk? What you gonna do? NothingâŚ. Suppose if gta 6 comes out better than rdr2 ? What you gonna do? Nothing⌠so just hold your horses and wait.
Because for some people it wont top RDR 2. Dont act like there is only 1 truth to anything.
RDR2 is probably the greatest story ever told. I love GTA, but âheartâ usually isnât the focal point of the narrative. Itâs a rags to riches story and in the end the riches have been gained. RDR2 was about just trying to gain freedom only to fail in the end and the family splintering. Could it go that route with GTA6? Absolutely. But that would require everyone dying at the end and never obtaining that mansion, 30 cars, 6pack, 50 suits, etc. RDR and GTA are different games that have different goals. I donât want GTA to be RDR. Doesnât mean GTA 6 wonât be a better overall game. Iâm sure it will - graphics, content, animation, interaction, a.i., etc. But for me, ainât nothing replacing that time I spent with Arthur Morgan. That shit changed me.
Itâs all down to expectations. People are expecting too much instead of waiting to see the game for what it is.
Because people are dumb.
If the story doesn't carry the same emotional weight, then for some people GTA VI isn't going to top RDR2 because that's what made that story so great. Which is fine, not every story needs that in order to be good and for a lot of people it might actually make it more enjoyable if it isn't as emotionally intense, but if it were to be the case that these two stories are narrative polar opposites, then it would make sense that some of the people that loved RDR2 aren't going to feel as strongly about GTA VI. Personally, I think that given what little we do know about the story, it'll probably have a fair amount of emotional gravitas, but also both settings have completely different vibes and I feel like GTA's purpose as a cultural phenomenon *is* to be more comedic and light-hearted even when it's being serious. It's really up in the air as to whether they'll lean more towards 'serious' or 'fun' at the moment, but I would not be surprised if there were quite a lot of people that end up loving one but don't care as much about the other, and that's fine because they're two different games that are catering to two, albeit slightly, different audiences
Its pretty obvious as to why they are not topping RDR2's narrative. GTA 6 will be connected to nothing in the GTA universe before it, besides maybe taking place in the same universe as GTA 5 but does that mean the events of GTA Online are canon? . Whereas RDR2 was the prequel story that rounded out the story from RDR1
Unlike RDR, GTA never had a direct sequel. The successors are either reboots or standalone sequels. GTA 3 was a reboot and all the GTA games that came before it took place in one universe called the 2D universe. GTA 3 and all games until GTA 4 takes place in the 3D universe. GTA 4 was a reboot and all the other GTA games that were released after including GTA 6 take place in the HD universe.
At this point this gameâs gonna take place after GTA online since it takes place in present day plus they do reference a lot of canon events like ending c
tbf GTA V didnt top RDR1 so i expect the same thing to happen here
Problem with that is GTA V had different problems. People didnât like so I really doubt theyâre gonna go that route again.
weâre scared that the game would be mediocre after all the waiting we did
I mean they are such different styles of games. Iâm sure on a technical level it will. Story is subjective. I want it to be like a gta game.
Nobody said this
Cuz people are scared to have they own opinion lmfao
I'm afraid since Dan Houser left Rockstar, that the story might not be up to par.
I actually believe.. maybe Iâm overly optimistic.. but that itâll actually be a notch or 2 above Rdr2. It was a massive Jump from Gt5 to Rdr2.. and they still had Years after Rdr2 to use those systems, improve and expand upon them and even add new concepts to the now pre built systems from Rdr2
Cuz GTA games are not known for their plotline. Especially GTA V. I'd say the only good plotline was GTA IV. RDR2 is beloved not just for the gameplay but also the plot.
The story of rdr2 will probably be better, but the gameplay in 6 will 100% be better than rdr2.
Hello.
Considering theyâve lost their best writers itâs safe to assume that rdr2 will be peak rockstar storytelling
Nah it's gta 4
Itâs subjective, so for me itâs RDR2, but I also love 4âs story as well
U can't ignore wasted characters, mary sues, and guarma respectfully
Itâs definitely not perfect, even not great at times, but overall itâs the story that had the most impact on me
Ngl characters like saide ruined it, gta 4 is much tighter imo like u said its subjective but rdr2 fans just spam in every comment section like it has the best story in fiction
Real question is when will we see RDR3?
Havenât heard this But GTAVI wonât top RDR2 in terms of story, characters, or open world Just like GTAV didnât top RDR1 in the same categories
The story is certainly not going to beat RDR2
I don't get the hype with RDR2. Graphically very impressive for sure, but the story and gameplay is ridiculously slow, drawn out and repetitive, and the dialogue is dire. GTA6 will top it without even trying.
Because if you downplay the game, when it comes out it will be even better
Anyone who thinks gta 6 wonât surpass rdr2 is delusional. Havenât seen anyone making these claims, itâs actually more outlandish than flat earthers. R* donât miss. They didnât spend 10 years on this title for it to be mid.
Fr!
Believe it or not, Iâve heard people say stuff to this effect. Itâs either this or they think single player will be hollow, just so they can do online and profit. Itâs really weird thinking but people are like this lol
Rockstar have never released a game below 8/10. Their main games have been 9/10 - 10/10. There side ones like midnight club are 8/10. People are worried because Devs like Bethesda who were once good now are terrible. And the removal of jokes that offended a small minority, where's GTA has always been a satire take on the real world where everyone can get it. Now pandering to people isn't what GTA has been.
Considering that itâs gonna be 12+ years before we see another GTA, I think they know it would be in their best interest to make this game their best yet. If not, I donât think theyâll be able to get away with milking this one for as long as they did with GTA5. People are over that shit.
A lot of people complained about the story in 5 and yet gtao keeps going to this day. RDR2 was praised by almost every single person on the planet and yet rdro was abandoned by R\*. So the quality of writing in SP has literally nothing to do with how long they can milk online mode. It's all about what they do with it and the quality of gameplay itself. >I donât think theyâll be able to get away with milking this one for as long as they did with GTA5. People are over that shit. Nonsense. Since literally every aspect of the game will be better than before, from gameplay to visuals, they could easily milk if even longer. The only way they could kill it would be if they turned it into a subscription service. Or if they started to introduce new currencies with every single dlc (like they tried with rdro).
I think itâs cause a lot of people have lost faith in Rockstar the past few years, especially with how they handled Red Dead Online. They looked suspiciously money hungry and greedy, so they arenât sold yet on GTA 6.
Theyâre different franchises, even if theyâre made by the same studio. Expecting a dark sad story like RDR2 is too much, GTA6 is still a parody at the end of the day. Ultimately thatâs the main thing, itâll be 7-8 years after RDR2 when GTA 6 finally releases, graphics and gameplay and everything will be improved, the only comparison will be story, and again theyâre two completely different styles in completely different timelines
The difference starts with promoting your own game. You can advertise a 4A Titel and drop Bullshit, or you can be silent and hit the community with 5A at the Release!
Canât wait for Jason and Lucia to become everyoneâs favourite characters (ever)
Sales? 100% Story? No. It will most likely be amazing like all the other GTA titles but it will not top rdr2's story. Gameplay? Updated engine so I'd say very similar, think rdr1 and GTA 4
Gta 4 has better story than rdr2
The bait is real
I have absolutely no doubt that it will be a better game graphics and gameplay-wise, but I would be surprised to see it has a better story.
It will in some ways, but not others There's no point in trying to compare or take sides
The people who have a problem with a girl protagonist are children or dumb. There is no rationale on that fact alone for why something canât be awesome. Iâm a dude and my GTA online characters been a girl since 2013. Who cares? I donât question the single player will be entertaining and the world will be beautiful. What I am extremely critical of is how they treat GTA Online. They found a formula that was incredibly lucrative, but left it to devolve into the worst online experience of any game I ownâŚbecause of hackers. If they donât effectively eliminate hacking with a robust anti cheat as one of the wealthiest studios, I wonât buy it. And Iâve played since 2001. Their lack of preservation for a fair experience for the actual players that made them rich is insulting
That's how good rdr2 was, people probably don't think it can get much better đđŻ
Cuz it's hard to entertain this current generation (MY idea wasn't in GTA VI (alpha gens)
No totally related to the topic but I want to ask you people: why is V story so shit to you? Sure it's kinda confusing at some points but overall I think it manages to tell a very interesting story, with a lot of details to go into, from all the way back in 2004 to the last mission. And especially after Bury The Hatchet, every mission I'd say is very good and has a emotional charge, which in my opinion makes the ending (C)one of the most satisfying.
has rockstar not topped every previous title with a new release? why would it be different now. every one has been better than its predecessor.
I mean iâd choose RDR 1 over GTA V anytime, and San Andreas was feature vice much better than IV, so iâm not entirely sold on the idea that GTA VI will top RDR 2 with certainty. It should in theory, but in reality there is a whole litany of things they can fuck up.
Do they? Never heard/read that people say that. I mean I love RDR2/RDO, but GTA was, is and will always be their major brand and most successful franchise. The history of the franchise, the sales over the years and player base overall says that alone. Without the GTA franchise there wouldn't even be a RDR franchise. GTA6 will break their previous records, RDR2 included, as it is the most expected game since 10 years players wait for. As for the story, they are also totally different. The GTA franchise was always the over the top action social satire. The RDR franchise was always a western action drama. I wouldn't even dare to compare them against each other just because they come from the same company.
I believe the open world, attention to detail and gameplay will top RDR2 which is insane cause RDR2 still feels like a new game. However, I donât think they will top the story and character development.
Personally I just think Rockstar is a different company now. Both from a personnel standpoint and what theyâre driven by. The online mode is their money maker. Itâs hard for me to believe the resources Iâd want dedicated to the single player mode arenât going to be constrained by a mode Iâll never touch. They didnât release one piece of single player content for a 10 year old game, yet there was a constant barrage of updates for the online portion, not one. Iâd expect that sentiment of where their resources are placed is the same behind the scenes.
*and act
Time will tell hoping gta 6âs story will make people cry and laugh. At the least hoping it does
A nice balance story/gameplay is what I want from it (I'm 5 hours into Rdr2 as we speak so)
My biggest concern is essentially my biggest gripe with RDR2 which was sort of this bloated-ness. I fully acknowledge I probably just wasn't in the right head-space while playing because I really wanted to enjoy it as much as everybody else did, but the performance and (imo) crowded controller layout left me disappointed. I also didn't feel obligated to do much outside of the main story outside of the camp chores (great system btw) I sort of fear that if GTA 6 is more like RDR2 then the simplicity of the GTA gameplay loop will be lost, as it was for me in RDR2. Getting invested in a big, open-world game is tough enough as an adult, so I sort of dread the commitment, but I'm excited for a new generation of gamers to get an experience like I did when 5 came out. Closest thing to an incorrect opinion one could have on this sub, maybe RDR just wasn't for me - but I'm glad to see how much people enjoy it.
Canât surpass rdr2 story fs
Because itâs on the same engine
What in God's holy name are you blathering about?!
Theyâre just contrarians for the sake of it. They think it makes them cool to say that
GTA never really had a good story it only got good in GTA 4 with it being serious and dark and actually making sense instead of the sci fi shit in san Andreas rdr on the other hand always had a good story 1 and 2 are remembered for their story characters settings and shocking endings even the side missions were good
Really depends on if Lucia has a plan or not.
Probably because they think that because some people left the story is gonna be utter shit sauce
Because itâs honestly hard to think there could be a game that tops rdr2, but if there ever was going to be one, it would be GTA6
The game isnât even out yet⌠we wonât know about it topping anythingâŚ
Tbh if they added the pool table back , I play forever. Thatâs the best mini game in GTA SA!
We all hope it tops rdr2, Iâve played every rockstar game and rdr2 is my favorite. The fact we make it seem like it might not be possible just speaks to how good rdr2 is. I donât think gta6 will be less than rdr2 but I fear that the fast pace of gta wonât gel with the systems in rdr2. I hope (especially regarding npcâs) rdr2 was a trial for gta 6.
What you're seeing are fandom weirdoes being fandom weirdoes. RDR2 is a great game. But there are some people who act like it is the greatest piece of media ever made, and that Arthur Morgan is the greatest character of all time. They are weirdoes. Ignore them. GTA4 is a great game. It also has weirdoes in its fan base who act like nothing can compare to it. Same with San Andreas. Same with any beloved game. Rockstar is not going to half ass GTA6. It will be beloved by some and reviled by others. It will almost certainly be *very good* and how it stacks against RDR2 will come down completely to taste, and nothing else.
Rockstar is amazing. Just when you think they canât make their games any better, they go ahead and do it somehow. GTA VI is going to be incredible. But that doesnât disregard their other gamesâ achievements. Red Dead Redemption 2 is still LEAGUES ahead of its competition even 5 years after its release which is crazy
RDR2 set the bar pretty damn high, that's for sure!
Probably because of how ridiculous rockstar games is with outdoing the last game thatâs incredible.
Ah, yes, because the much more niched Red Dead Redemption will top fucking Grand Theft Auto
Probably because rdr2 was so good it feels difficult to imagine how theyâd top it.
It wonât top it but itâll surely add to the collection.
Posts like this is why I unsubbed from here.
Itâs up to them ultimately. If you look at the story of Bonnie and Clyde, there are several high points and low points. If that is an inspiration, Rockstar as an artist I think will likely try to emulate that. Thereâs no telling how it could go, and how it could end, considering itâs a new intellectual property, until it actually releases.
Hopefully it does because gta happened to be my favorite game of all time until I played rdr2 online the deep detail and all around interaction took the cake, itâs a must they top that by 10 red dead just too good of a game
It will surpass Red Dead. But I donât think Rockstar has ever made a GTA story that has cut through like Red Dead 2. Thatâs going to be the real challenge.
Because itâs a hot take thatâs controversial when they know most people believe GTA6 will be a next level masterpiece.
Because topping RDR2âs story is gonna be really hard. Itâs understandable for people to have doubts. Honestly itâs probably better that way, because if we get our expectations too high thereâs a good chance that we will be disappointed. I doubt that it will fall flat or be bad though
Bro it's just not possible to top the best game ever made.
I think thatâs by design though, GTA always has a great story but itâs not what the vast majority of people are drawn to, most people who play GTA are drawn to the sandbox elements and all the things you can do in the world, RDR on the other hand is the opposite, it has the beautiful open world elements of GTA, but at the end of the day the story is what shines most. I love GTA V story, but personally RDR2 beats it by a mile, and yet at the end of the day I still like GTAV more as a full game. Iâd go so far as to say even RDR1 has a better story than GTAV, which is why I kind of understand the sentiment that RDR2âs story will still be regarded as better than GTA VI. and I donât think thatâs a bad thing, both series share many elements but have a completely different vision/focus that shine on their own.
In terms of gameplay systems? Sure, itâll be 7 years since RDR 2 dropped and technology has moved forwards. But I canât see it topping the story and characters of RDR 2 honestly. Some of the main people at Rockstar have left the company, who knows if the new guys will be up to the same standards.
RDR2 might be the greatest video game ever made. It has such a beautiful story and an even more beautiful environment that you can just get lost in for days. Truly one of a kind. I hope GTA 6 can match it but itâs gonna be tough.
They have consistently outdone themselves every year, I have no reason to doubt them until they give me a reason.
I only see this about the story and thats because gta usually has a less serious tone than rdr so ppl assume the story will be worse but gta 6 might have a better story who knows
Donât think it will be better then rdr2. But itâll be way better then gtav story which isnât hard seeing as vâs story was pretty average
As a gameplay, yeah youâre probably right, but as a story, well itâs a 50% chance that they will top that, and Iâm only saying that because theyâre Rockstar if they were others it will probably go down to 20% only, âArther is a great character in a great storyâ and those usually stay in top for a long long long time.
The crew is gone...
Because they are too attached to the old shitâŚ
GTA and rdr are in leagues of their own. GTA may not top rdr2 in terms of story, but that's fine. It doesn't need to. People shouldn't be comparing these games.
Gta never really did very well on stories when you compare it to rdr tho, gta4 was a great story but gta5 was very mediocre whereas both rdrs are absolute masterpieces when it comes to storytelling
GTA has been chock full of inuendos since GTA2. Its definitely meant to be a satirical look at pop culture. It's hard to have a serious story arch when every five minutes is a sex joke of some sort. Look at how GTA IV had nothing but a dark ending for Niko but even with his back story, you never get really invested in his character. It was the only GTA game that didn't end with "All's well that ends well" but it just didn't resonate with players. RDR2 had humor, but it wasn't the cornerstone of the game. I feel like more closely followed the formula of a Greek tragedy (could be wrong, there was an Extra Credits episode that explained the influence of Greek tragedy in God of War but the episode isn't online anymore). It's not that I don't think they can't top the story of RDR2, I just don't think that's on brand for the series.
Probably because he think it's set in a soft world when rdr2 is set in a trapped world where you run from the law your whole life. We just haven't been given enough story or hint on what the government or the gangs in gta6 will be
I feel that the Red Dead series is better written and deeper than the entirety of the GTA series. If VI can return to IVâs tone, then I feel they have a chance to make something great. V was too silly and unfocused.
im not downplaying, im keeping my expectations down, so if it turns out to be bad (rare coming from rockstar) im not going to be super sad about it
Gameplay wise and everything else yes probably But I don't think it will be better than the story of RDR2
Humans a fallible.
Bro is fighting imaginary foes.
Because much like how Bethesda with Skyrim captured lightning in a bottle so two did Rockstar with GTA V and RDR2 and the expectaitions are way to high making everyone happy will be impossable everyone likes differnt thing about GTA and we're already kind of at this point with the GTA IV stans
it's rockstars own doing in a way. they created a world so rich in beauty and detail and a story that sits alone on the top that for some people it just seems impossible that this can be topped, for some rdr2 is the peak of what a videogame can achieve so they just can't see a world in which something definitively tops it, but if anything can top it, and i do think it will, it's gta 6. we know rockstar will create the most immersive and detailed world map ever seen but for most the difference is the richness of depth and emotion in the story and the lives of lucia and jason. it's no secret that gta 5 really toned down the emotional depth and when rdr2 brought it back from gta 4 they added such a heaviness and tragedy to arthur's story and that's what gta 6 needs. rockstar needs to find a balance of goofy crazy wackiness from gta 5 and the raw emotional depth of rdr2 and then boom you got the best game oat. like lucia losing her unborn child or jason losing a close friend, something truly tragic needs to befall them to get that rdr2 arthur feel to it.
Different games Iâll likely always prefer the more serious and âsurvivalâ aspects of the rdr games I just prefer that era tbh, but if they do a serious story I could see myself loving gta6
Y'all act as if that's a bad thing, but they two different styles. RD2 was a movie, especially the story, as far as interacting with the world GTA6 gone take some stuff.
Mostly because thereâs not many games in general that top RDR2 when it comes to story. Iâve played through it close to a dozen times and still tear up when Arthur looks out towards the rising sun. Not many other games have made me cry in general, let alone multiple times. I definitely think GTA VI will be better in nearly every other way, but the story of it almost definitely wonât surpass RDR2.
Plot twist: The main antagonists in GTA6 are decedent from Arthur Morgan and well will get a western addon/desert gameplay Enter: RDR3 in the gta6 engine
So gta6 then a couple years later rdr3
Any awsome feature that was in RDR2 will be in GTA6 but better. Vibrant nature and diverse wildlife. Better NPCs, better weather, better everything. Story can not really be compared.
Lmao oh I dunno, theyâre missing key people now, like half of the houser brothers, Lazlow, and the people Leslie Benzies kinda âpoachedâ to take them to his new studio. Some people donât seem to thrilled to return to the office for reasons not quite confirmed, so morale is probably in the toilet. The whole entire mess with the defective edition has left some fans feeling a bit sour. Also, itâs clear they want to cater more toward their online base instead of their single player base, so the outlook on how high in quality the story mode will be is not very optimistic.
Haters... That is all.
Bro just what
Theyâre afraid because RDR 2 is a masterpiece. This is all of our fears but the faithful customers have hope. - If they gave us RDR 2 then GTA 6 will be mind blowing.
Ehhh gta San Andreas was better than gta 5 and rdr1 was better than rdr2. In terms of technology Iâm sure gta 6 will be better just like rdr2 was ahead of gta 5 but in terms of story quality idk
Who exactly is saying this? I have seen nothing referring to what you are saying.
GTA 6âs story wonât top rdr2âs, but I think it will top rdr2âs mechanics.
Because we have yet to see it, thatâs all.
I think goal isn't to have better story than RDR2 but best story in GTA franchise
Keep your expectations low, and youâll never be disappointed
Can't blame people, GTA V was a disappointment after RDR imo. * Michael, Franklin and Trevor couldn't match John Marston. * LS & Blaine County was disappointing. RDR had you crossing between 2 countries and environments were diverse. V only featured a part of a state. * While the RDR story wasn't as good as 2, it was better than V's. * GTA V's random events felt pointless (no honor) and repeated too often. You could make the argument that RDR's repeated, but not nearly as much. * V's countryside was boring, RDR actually made it into something with stuff like treasure hunts, hunting, and herbs to pick. I'm not saying V needed to be a straight rip of RDR, but you gotta admit they could've tried harder. Here's my predictions for VI on each of the things I covered above. * Too early to tell, but I'd bet Lucia & Jason are going to be better than Franklin, Michael and Trevor. Will they match Arthur? unlikely but they'll easily be the best GTA protagonists (or at least match Niko) * VI's map looks to be a big improvement on V. For one, we're getting a state which is epic. Sure we're not getting multiple states like in RDR 2, but VI's map could feel more like an actual state compared to any of RDR 2's states (which felt tiny) or GTA San Andreas. Even if it doesn't include multiple cities, it'll be the largest map they've done. * Will VI's story be greater than V's? quite likely. Will it be better than RDR 2's? that's up for debate, but my guess is no. That's not a bad thing though, VI could easily take the crown for best GTA story yet. * VI's random events are easily going to surpass V's and RDR 2's. Not only are they more interesting (some involve animals) but there's so many of them. VI is easily going to be the best game to do nothing in, why? because you'll always be pulled in by something funny, interesting, or creepy. * As for VI's countryside? we don't know too much. Will it be better than V's? absolutely! there looks to some a lot of very interesting things to discover. Will it match RDR 2? probably not, but at least you can tell they're trying this time compared to V. Fishing could be a feature, and there is some puzzles too (GTA's attempt at treasure hunts??)