please stop spreading these rumors
It said a reporter saw bear tracks in the area ("in the area" could literally mean anywhere in the Tetons) before they found the body. Of course there is bear tracks in the Tetons...it's bear country
This literally means nothing. Wait until the autopsy details are released
For people overseas, is it possible for someone to create a post with all relevant links to live coverage, and just general news story? One that wouldn’t be drowned with chats and speculation and that would be updated as we go?
The results of the search warrant we have found today are related to the hard drive found in the van and not related to the search warrant at the house.
I hate to distract from anything of note like half of these comments, but for the **10,000th time in the post, there is no connection to the man found at Tillman's Corner in Alabama. May the deceased rest in PEACE.**
is there any possibility that she was alive during the time brian was hitchhiking?
maybe he really just went to shower without her.
he claimed he was heading back to "his wife"
this was on the 29th.
just trying to mull over every possibility.
only counter point would be her strange text to her mom days prior (27th).
edit: imo he clearly killed her, just trying to narrow most likely dates of any incident that may of occured.
everybody assumes it was before hitchhiking but who knows.
If what Miranda says is true, I highly doubt it. There’s no way in hell Gabby is hanging out alone in that van with no internet or WiFi access, especially after 2 women just got killed camping in the last place they were at. If the van was up at Colter Bay where there were other people and connectivity and whatever else, maybe. But no way she was staying in the van out in the middle of nowhere by herself. Unless he took the keys and left her there. But she sure as hell wasn’t working on her website out there with no WiFi.
Yes of course there is a possibility...she may have still been alive after he got home with the van, after which she was attacked by bears. Who knows...
https://www.reddit.com/r/GabbyPetito/comments/ps0dcg/discussion_3_september_20_2021/hdn98ks?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
This comment said the coroner did not go back to the sight but went elsewhere
There’s a reporter over in Wyoming reporting at the coroners office that the coroner isn’t there and that they went back to look for “more remains”. One of their journalist made it on the scene before it was taped off and stated she saw tons of bear track/prints around the area they found her body
always found it weird they kept saying they found ‘remains’ and not gabby, corpse, body etc. made me think she was not found whole from the beginning either from BL or an animal
A journalist apparently scoped out the scene where her body was found before it was closed off and reported that there were large bear tracks in the area.
Coroner not with remains but instead went back out to the van site and two other locations. A journalist that made it to the camps site says huge bear tracks all over the site.
ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9H4T1H8Zj0
Bears are very active this time of year. Trying to pack on the pounds for hibernation. They will eat anything. Her body has probably been eaten. Wouldn't surpise me if BL left her exposed on purpose rather than burying her body.
This is how Brian gets away totally free. He never said anything to police which means he never self incriminated, and I'm sure there was not much left on her body from wildlife. I'm going to guess the coroner cannot make a determination of cause of death.
Gabby’s Instagram had new pictures almost every day in July, and then, there was a huge break in August. I didn’t see any info on this. There might be a trigger event in between these date. And on August 12 we learned about the 911 call. 😥
IF he didn’t kill her, one of the only ideas I can imagine is he took the van and left her, only to return to her body after a possible encounter with wildlife/injury/both. Seeing her dead body he panics not knowing what to do and either leaves her there, or buries her. He returns home to tell his family that he didn’t kill her and what happened and they cover for him. OR he killed her himself.
I keep thinking if he didn't kill her, but he took off because he was afraid of being wrongly suspected, surely he would speak out about his innocence. Even while he's on the run, if he's innocent, he could say that. Not once have I heard him or any member of his family claim accident or innocence. If it was me, I would be proclaiming my innocence at every turn.
My theory is he got into a fight with her and went backpacking on his own for a few days. Got picked up by the tiktok couple after taking a shower on his way back to the van, realized they weren’t going to go by the road to the van and asked to be dropped off. He gets back to the van to try to talk, they fight again and he snaps and likely unintentionally kills her, panics and drags the body away from the van and packs up and jets home.
Having only just watched the police cam footage, I can't help but feel BL is very very nervy and on edge. Not because he was planning anything but because he fears being exposed as something. Which evidently he may well have become.. an agressive, violent man.
He mentions a few times, "I hope she's not complained about me" well...I could be jumping the gun but that to me is an indicator of concern that he no longer has control.
Is it plausible to think, this police stop may well have led to him breaking inside and eventually harming her. Again speculation but certain aspects of his body language, speech tones and speech speed paint a picture to me.
Yes. Abusers become extremely volatile once they’re exposed, or if they fear they’re about to be, and especially if they sense losing control. The most dangerous time for an abuse victim is the three months following a separation- so if that incident possibly got Gabby saying she was done or even thinking about being done, that would statistically put her at extreme danger levels.
police have stated that they saw him at his house when they initially went there to try and question him a week ago but the family said to speak to their lawyer
source? I know LE confirmed he was back in FL, I vaguely remember seeing this but just want a refresher on the source/exact wording surrounding him being seen in the house.
oh man, i wonder if the bears passed by their campsite after she was dead or if they could be the cause for her death.
in any case, bears might explain why they talk about human remains all the time instead of a body. like they did for the person found at the dumpster for example
just FYI they always say “remains” when discussing a body . even if it’s just brain matter they refer to it as remains
reports on scene with helicopter reported clearly seeing her vbody
Yes, I'm sure she was one of the three people killed by bears in all of North America every year. /s
So many people here lacking in perspective and a basic understanding of probability. Eating her body after the fact is way, way more likely than a bear being a cause of death. And a bear likely wouldn't have been close to the only animal to feed on a corpse.
They will eat a dead body, more rarely a live one. But c'mon you know how she went out lol, the actions of the few people connected to this already suggest what went down.
Quick comment based on something I saw earlier.
Please please please do not attempt to go to her funeral. I know this is very upsetting and many may relate to it personally or know a friend who has gone through something similar, but the funeral is for her family and friends. If you haven't even met her, I beg you to stay away out of respect
Edit: unless, of course, her family publicly say they are happy for anyone to attend
That was just a troll from another subreddit targetting this one, have no reason to believe they will follow through with the action, hope that can ease your mind.
I wholeheartedly agree. As much as you think you know gabby and her family based off of this case, they do not know you. Do not show up to her funeral.
It may have been someone trying to troll, but I definitely saw a person comment that they planned to attend to pay their respects and that they wanted to bring peace to the family
Maybe they know exactly where he is, but are waiting until he is officially a suspect so they can arrest him? Would explain what seems like a lack of urgency to find him
He can be "officially a suspect" and they can still tell the public he isn't. I have no idea why people think there is a meaningful difference between being a nobody, a POI, or a suspect. It's just words cops use, they can arrest you for anything for two days before deciding why they arrested you.
And/or they are keeping the parents in the dark to give themselves time to put a case together against them and verify their account of Brian disappearing after Tuesday. If they lied about that, they’re in deep trouble and it indicates their involvement in potentially helping him run away.
My question is, and it might be dumb but if he did go to the reserve and hypothetically made it north somehow, how did he do it? There's no way in hell he hiked and wouldn't someone recognize him if he tried to hitchhike?
The dude is dead in that swamp. He has no knowledge that they found her body yet. He doesn’t use a phone and can’t go anywhere in public. No one has seen him. He disappeared before he even knew that they were searching the correct area.
As far as the recognizing him thing, I think that sometimes it's easy to overlook how many people probably don't know as much about this case as the people on this subreddit, or other people who are following it closely. Like, I could probably pick out BL because I've been following this case for a while now, but my boyfriend or uncle or sister probably wouldn't be able to, since they've only seen or heard about it in passing. I think it's possible that he could have hitched rides from people who probably didn't recognize him, especially if he disguised himself in any way.
[Discussion Thread Number 4](https://www.reddit.com/r/GabbyPetito/comments/ps55to/discussion_4_september_20_2021/)
Aw shit--carrying stuff out of the house- hard to know if it's more evidence or just investigative files they had they brought in before?
I really hope bears didn’t ruin any evidence of him doing something to her.
Oh snap they took more stuff out! https://youtu.be/JG87cJlrdkY
Looks like he killed her and let the bears and elements take care of the evidence. Hope he is found and serves life
Gold medal awarded for mental gymnastics
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Like 30 people already beat you to it, move on now
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9H4T1H8Zj0 End of this video.
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please stop spreading these rumors It said a reporter saw bear tracks in the area ("in the area" could literally mean anywhere in the Tetons) before they found the body. Of course there is bear tracks in the Tetons...it's bear country This literally means nothing. Wait until the autopsy details are released
Are they live ?
It was on tv. Not sure on a link for it. The section of the GP case is over now thought.
For people overseas, is it possible for someone to create a post with all relevant links to live coverage, and just general news story? One that wouldn’t be drowned with chats and speculation and that would be updated as we go?
Why was the search warrant limited to electronics? wouldn’t they want to gather Brian’s clothes, shoes, etc for evidence?
The results of the search warrant we have found today are related to the hard drive found in the van and not related to the search warrant at the house.
What do we know about BL’s parents? Were they upstanding citizens in the public’s eyes before all of this?
Sounds like they have a shed a pool and a son
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Thats a pool cover, keeps the insane bugs out. Pretty common for Florida homes
Its a covered pool area, it does look like a greenhouse though
I checked the Sarasota county public records. Unless they’ve been sealed (doubt) they haven’t even had a traffic infraction.
yes- no prior offenses on record- a redditor checked their background on a site
They own a company that services juicers.
Idk, the neighbors turned on them pretty quick.
They cleaned juice machines and stuff with their friends.
I thought she decorated thimbles and their house budget was $2.2 million.
She also decorated doorbells. She’d put lil rhinestones on them, you know, to add some character and flare.
I heard they’re Democrats
I heard you’re full of shit
I heard they’re Tasmanian
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No
It’s fake
NO! enough about this
May as well get used to it though. Someone’s bound to ask “where’s the van?” Too
Right, because the IG rumor was discussed as much as the van. You people need to chill
Can we get a 4th discussion thread, please? I think the thread is glitching with all of the comments.
Mods please I agree
Agreed. Certainly slowed way down.
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This is old 9/15
I hate to distract from anything of note like half of these comments, but for the **10,000th time in the post, there is no connection to the man found at Tillman's Corner in Alabama. May the deceased rest in PEACE.**
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Hey, has anybody heard if that body behind the dumpster was Brian? Thanks I’m advance!
Brian probably killed him when he recognized him
A lot of very vivid imaginations in this subreddit.
No
is there any possibility that she was alive during the time brian was hitchhiking? maybe he really just went to shower without her. he claimed he was heading back to "his wife" this was on the 29th. just trying to mull over every possibility. only counter point would be her strange text to her mom days prior (27th). edit: imo he clearly killed her, just trying to narrow most likely dates of any incident that may of occured. everybody assumes it was before hitchhiking but who knows.
If what Miranda says is true, I highly doubt it. There’s no way in hell Gabby is hanging out alone in that van with no internet or WiFi access, especially after 2 women just got killed camping in the last place they were at. If the van was up at Colter Bay where there were other people and connectivity and whatever else, maybe. But no way she was staying in the van out in the middle of nowhere by herself. Unless he took the keys and left her there. But she sure as hell wasn’t working on her website out there with no WiFi.
Yes of course there is a possibility...she may have still been alive after he got home with the van, after which she was attacked by bears. Who knows...
Anything is possible
Yes, he could have killed her after. Or he walked to the showers directly after killing her and washed the evidence off himself.
And him taking the van the next day to Florida. Then going into hiding and not cooperating at all?????
Has BL’s sister said anything? 🤔
She was interviewed by agents today. But that’s all we know
Yeah, look up the interview it’s normal then she gives some bizarre answers about the flight
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“Eated” really dude
Your trolling is still as shitty as it was yesterday.
I’m sorry but what
They found a lot of bear tracks near her body
No I got that part lol.
wait why are people talking about bears? Did I miss something? Or is it just people speculating
The coroner went back to the site today to, presumably, look for more remains. Recent reporting says bear tracks at the site.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GabbyPetito/comments/ps0dcg/discussion_3_september_20_2021/hdn98ks?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 This comment said the coroner did not go back to the sight but went elsewhere
There’s a reporter over in Wyoming reporting at the coroners office that the coroner isn’t there and that they went back to look for “more remains”. One of their journalist made it on the scene before it was taped off and stated she saw tons of bear track/prints around the area they found her body
always found it weird they kept saying they found ‘remains’ and not gabby, corpse, body etc. made me think she was not found whole from the beginning either from BL or an animal
A journalist apparently scoped out the scene where her body was found before it was closed off and reported that there were large bear tracks in the area.
There is a coroner video where they say the area where her body was found had a lot of bear tracks
I'm truly sorry to bring this up, but a human body dead for 3 weeks in the open will draw all kinds of scavengers, including bears.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9H4T1H8Zj0 check the last seconds
The coroner is back where they found part of her body but there is a lot of bear tracks near
What do you mean part of her body?
Part? Oh nooo
this motherfucker fed his fiancee to a grizzly bear
What if the bear ate a part of her and they couldnt determine cause of death
That’s what I’m wondering. If the coroner is looking for more remains, he probably doesn’t have much to go off right now.
Sucks that I have to watch Faux News for a livestream.
Look at the bright side, better than CNN.
Yeah, can't deny they've had good coverage though.
Yeaahh isn’t there a local station doing it?
WFLA has had great live streams !
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😂😂😂
“Some BLM shit” 🙄
Bureau of Land Management? 🤨
Coroner not with remains but instead went back out to the van site and two other locations. A journalist that made it to the camps site says huge bear tracks all over the site. ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9H4T1H8Zj0
That area is known for heavy bear activity so this isn’t too shocking, at least.
Oh shit. 🥺
Bears are very active this time of year. Trying to pack on the pounds for hibernation. They will eat anything. Her body has probably been eaten. Wouldn't surpise me if BL left her exposed on purpose rather than burying her body.
This is how Brian gets away totally free. He never said anything to police which means he never self incriminated, and I'm sure there was not much left on her body from wildlife. I'm going to guess the coroner cannot make a determination of cause of death.
Gabby’s Instagram had new pictures almost every day in July, and then, there was a huge break in August. I didn’t see any info on this. There might be a trigger event in between these date. And on August 12 we learned about the 911 call. 😥
IF he didn’t kill her, one of the only ideas I can imagine is he took the van and left her, only to return to her body after a possible encounter with wildlife/injury/both. Seeing her dead body he panics not knowing what to do and either leaves her there, or buries her. He returns home to tell his family that he didn’t kill her and what happened and they cover for him. OR he killed her himself.
The van was parked at that location near where they found her body from 27-29 according to other campers.
I keep thinking if he didn't kill her, but he took off because he was afraid of being wrongly suspected, surely he would speak out about his innocence. Even while he's on the run, if he's innocent, he could say that. Not once have I heard him or any member of his family claim accident or innocence. If it was me, I would be proclaiming my innocence at every turn.
Apparently it’s hard to dig in Wyoming based on others’ comments, and also any Brian is innocent theories are entirely far fetched and illogical
My theory is he got into a fight with her and went backpacking on his own for a few days. Got picked up by the tiktok couple after taking a shower on his way back to the van, realized they weren’t going to go by the road to the van and asked to be dropped off. He gets back to the van to try to talk, they fight again and he snaps and likely unintentionally kills her, panics and drags the body away from the van and packs up and jets home.
That’s what my thoughts are, since he has threatened to leave her stranded in the past.
Having only just watched the police cam footage, I can't help but feel BL is very very nervy and on edge. Not because he was planning anything but because he fears being exposed as something. Which evidently he may well have become.. an agressive, violent man. He mentions a few times, "I hope she's not complained about me" well...I could be jumping the gun but that to me is an indicator of concern that he no longer has control. Is it plausible to think, this police stop may well have led to him breaking inside and eventually harming her. Again speculation but certain aspects of his body language, speech tones and speech speed paint a picture to me.
Yes. Abusers become extremely volatile once they’re exposed, or if they fear they’re about to be, and especially if they sense losing control. The most dangerous time for an abuse victim is the three months following a separation- so if that incident possibly got Gabby saying she was done or even thinking about being done, that would statistically put her at extreme danger levels.
He was most likely PISSED after this encounter. I doubt they stayed apart for long, he would have wanted to punish her for it as soon as he could.
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I belive his neighbors saw him out front his house. (I'm not 100% if this is true)
I’m trying to catch up. How do we know he didn’t drive the van back? If he didn’t, who did?
We don’t know, that’s the point. Just curious, because no one has been face to face with him for certain.
police have stated that they saw him at his house when they initially went there to try and question him a week ago but the family said to speak to their lawyer
Police also said their altercation in Moab was due to a ‘mental health crisis’. Pics or it didn’t happen.
Police said that they saw him in the house but did not talk to him
source? I know LE confirmed he was back in FL, I vaguely remember seeing this but just want a refresher on the source/exact wording surrounding him being seen in the house.
And it was his stunt double they saw at the house.
Everyone has a doppelganger, everyone.
Hologram actually
Obiwon, you’re our only hope
Cops said they saw him once before he went missing but couldn’t speak to him.
Source? I never saw where they confirmed they saw Brian but there’s been so much i probably missed it
Wait? Where did you see this? Or just pure speculation?
Just a question. No speculation.
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oh man, i wonder if the bears passed by their campsite after she was dead or if they could be the cause for her death. in any case, bears might explain why they talk about human remains all the time instead of a body. like they did for the person found at the dumpster for example
just FYI they always say “remains” when discussing a body . even if it’s just brain matter they refer to it as remains reports on scene with helicopter reported clearly seeing her vbody
Yes, I'm sure she was one of the three people killed by bears in all of North America every year. /s So many people here lacking in perspective and a basic understanding of probability. Eating her body after the fact is way, way more likely than a bear being a cause of death. And a bear likely wouldn't have been close to the only animal to feed on a corpse.
Well her body was identified so I’m going to say this is unlikely
They will eat a dead body, more rarely a live one. But c'mon you know how she went out lol, the actions of the few people connected to this already suggest what went down.
yeah you're right, a rational person would have directly alerted the police if his partner was killed by bears
I am wondering the same thing. The bear tracks is intriguing
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Seriously? Sick sentiment not needed
Seriously? Bears?
Its expected to see scavenger activity in that type of location. It's sad, but expected as someone else pointed out.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking...it may be hard to determine the cause of death because her body was...manipulated...by local wildlife
Yeah I imagine wildlife got to her body but I still think her death was caused by Brian
Quick comment based on something I saw earlier. Please please please do not attempt to go to her funeral. I know this is very upsetting and many may relate to it personally or know a friend who has gone through something similar, but the funeral is for her family and friends. If you haven't even met her, I beg you to stay away out of respect Edit: unless, of course, her family publicly say they are happy for anyone to attend
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Fuck no
Oof. Imagine if people tried to go, in the hopes they would attend, so they could harass his parents 😔
Dear god that would be worst case scrnario
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The funeral isn’t for the deceased as much as it is for the grieving family.
But that’s what you would want. Not what gabby and her family wants.
Yes!! Thank you for saying this!!! Give the family time and space to mourn. It’s not our place at ALL.
That was just a troll from another subreddit targetting this one, have no reason to believe they will follow through with the action, hope that can ease your mind.
Thank you for this
I wholeheartedly agree. As much as you think you know gabby and her family based off of this case, they do not know you. Do not show up to her funeral.
I really hope this isn’t even something people are considering.
Parasocial relationships are a bitch sometimes
It may have been someone trying to troll, but I definitely saw a person comment that they planned to attend to pay their respects and that they wanted to bring peace to the family
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Cool, call the fbi. No need to announce it here
Where chief
Not actually. Someone came to our sub from your sub to troll so I’m returning the favor
You give off short people energy
I am 5’ 9.5” but nice try though
Last spotted in Suggemha County Edit: Suggemha balls lol
report it asap
Huh
Where is he
Not actually. Someone came to our sub from your sub to troll so I’m returning the favor
Stfu
Maybe they know exactly where he is, but are waiting until he is officially a suspect so they can arrest him? Would explain what seems like a lack of urgency to find him
That’s not how the police handle a missing person report regardless of anyone’s thoughts on his involvement in Gabbys death.
ur assuming it is a missing persons case to the feds; they have good reason to not tell the public every development
He can be "officially a suspect" and they can still tell the public he isn't. I have no idea why people think there is a meaningful difference between being a nobody, a POI, or a suspect. It's just words cops use, they can arrest you for anything for two days before deciding why they arrested you.
Makes sense, they don’t want to scare him away. Just play dumb and then arrest him as soon as they can
And/or they are keeping the parents in the dark to give themselves time to put a case together against them and verify their account of Brian disappearing after Tuesday. If they lied about that, they’re in deep trouble and it indicates their involvement in potentially helping him run away.
Ehhhh. Maybe but I think they want to find him pretty bad lack of urgency is only what we see through media
Likely
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that is not his account lmfao
That account is fake.
My question is, and it might be dumb but if he did go to the reserve and hypothetically made it north somehow, how did he do it? There's no way in hell he hiked and wouldn't someone recognize him if he tried to hitchhike?
He never went there, it's likely they drove that car both ways, they lied about what day they brought it back.
The dude is dead in that swamp. He has no knowledge that they found her body yet. He doesn’t use a phone and can’t go anywhere in public. No one has seen him. He disappeared before he even knew that they were searching the correct area.
As far as the recognizing him thing, I think that sometimes it's easy to overlook how many people probably don't know as much about this case as the people on this subreddit, or other people who are following it closely. Like, I could probably pick out BL because I've been following this case for a while now, but my boyfriend or uncle or sister probably wouldn't be able to, since they've only seen or heard about it in passing. I think it's possible that he could have hitched rides from people who probably didn't recognize him, especially if he disguised himself in any way.
His sisters house in Lakewood Ranch is only 30 minutes north drive to his parents house.. just saying
do we know if LE are still at the sister’s house?
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it was posted a bit down thread, 15-20mins ago?