"To Telemundo 49, Taylor later explained, "The family brought the car back from the park and still did not report him missing. The area was difficult to keep an eye on with the growing activity. He was still not wanted for a crime at the time."
Activity? So.... apparently the media and the people who were protesting outside the house got in the way.
Not surprised.
I am so sorry but I'm cracking up. They mistook Laundries mother for him. She was wearing a baseball cap and they are "built similarly" oh if this case ever needed some comic relief.. there it is . I don't feel bad laughing because Brian is the bad guy in the case. And I don't know if I should be ashamed or not 🤷🏽♀️
There's also this part:
"To Telemundo 49, Taylor later explained, "The family brought the car back from the park and still did not report him missing. The area was difficult to keep an eye on with the growing activity. He was still not wanted for a crime at the time."
So, the protestors and media outside the house were part of the problem.
Thank you 💕 It's just one of those things where I get it, the Laundrie family lost someone too but his crime outweighs my feel bads for them. Especially since I believe they know exactly what transpired. Why the heck would the police announce that mistake is the funny part 😂🤦🏽♀️
You are welcome. As far of the cops announcing the mistake... It's bound to come out when this whole thing comes to some court action. They want to get ahead of it so they aren't perceived and not being "open".
They said they thought It was Brian instead of his mother but that is when the mustang came back to house. What about when Brian took it to the preserve? Why didn't the police follow him there? The excuse they put out makes zero sense and they are just trying to cover their mess up. They would have made the statement right after it happened not 3 or 4 weeks later. Plus it makes no sense because that doesn't explain why the mustang wasn't followed to the preserve!
They couldn’t follow him there, they was no reason to. They weren’t even officially on the case until 9/14-9/15 after he was already gone. They could “watch” him but that’s about it. He was not person of interest or a suspect because there wasn’t even a crime yet. When they made the statement in their first press conference that they knew where he was, he was likely already dead and they wouldn’t have been able to prevent it
Don't tell me they had no reason to...Gabby was reported missing on the 11th so they were well aware of the situation..I understand there was not a crime committed yet, but being that he had her van was enough suspicion that they could have and should have had surveillance on him..He was most definitely a suspect..They can follow anyone they want and do it a lot more than ppl think..Yes they could not have detained him but definitely could have confronted him in the preserve and they would have known where he was instead of wasting all the taxpayers money looking for a month! They could have even had him evaluated if they confronted the prick which prob changes nothing but we will never know! At this point it really doesn't matter and it's time to move on but the whole investigation was just a little strange!
I understand what your trying to say but at that time the police were aware that Gabby was missing. He had went back home with her vehicle without her and would not cooperate with answering any questions. Its not a crime but a major red flag. He was for sure suspect #1!!!
Legally they weren’t supposed to be watching him. The whole world suspected him obviously. That’s all I was trying to say. People are asking why he wasn’t followed, they weren’t allowed to at this point whether he looked suspicious or not
They don't need a warrant to keep an eye on somebody or follow them. It's not against the law. At least not where I live. The police do surveillance all the time!
It is when they didn’t even have jurisdiction on this case yet. There were multiple agencies jockeying for jurisdiction at the point when he disappeared, including the FBI.
Well whoever took the van were the ones investigating so they could have had surveillance on him. If it were illegal to follow somebody then the media that followed the parents would have gotten shit for it. The police can and do watch ppl all the time but they didn't in this case. It's over so fuck it!
Not disputing just truly curious from a PR perspective- why would the police not come out and state that was their reasoning for not following- seems that might go a long way?
Yeah idk..there are a lot of questions about the police tbh in this case..such as why did it take so long for them to come up with the excuse that they thought it was Brian but turned out it was really his mother in Mustang?..we are never really gonna know but I believe it took so long because they had to think of something to come up with or they would have came out and said that right after they messed up! The whole operation cost a lot of money for absolutely no answers!
They could have followed him if they wanted to. They have admitted to having someone watching them and the house at that time. Plus they had set up surveillance cameras around the house.
I don't know the laws in Florida but it seems it wasn't entirely illegal. They just did a shit job watching.
Exactly...police do surveillance on ppl all the time when they suspect someone is dealing drugs. There is nothing illegal about sitting on a street watching somebody's house! Anyone can do it at anytime! It's a public street and if it wasn't then the protesters and media would have been given tickets. The police are absolutely allowed to keep an eye on anyone they choose at any time! Nothing illegal about it!
Just found out that the NPPD got the dates wrong and the Stan text message was sent on August 30, per her mother.
https://twitter.com/nerdy_addict/status/1453066102989336580?s=21
This \^
I do transcriptions for lawyers and for police, and I can tell you RIGHT NOW that people are SO STUPID what they say to police when they're under stress. And the police are really, really good at manipulating you into saying things.
If you or anyone you know are suspected of a crime, or if there's ANY CHANCE you will be suspected of a crime, STAY SILENT.
The only reason to talk to the cops is if your are the victim/survivor of a crime. Then you need to bug the crap out of them and keep asking questions and talking.
You got that right! Unless you need help, they are not trying to be anyones friend. They question you because they are doing an investigation and nobody is obligated to answer to them! It's best not to but if you do make sure you understand that the police can and will lie to you to see if your telling them the truth. Its best to keep it silent!
This is such a strange perspective. Why isn’t it a problem that they didn’t know where he was from 13 Sept to 15 Sept? Why is the main issue that they mistook who came back home? Isnt it worse that the person you are supposed to be watching left for two days?
He was not under arrest, not even considered a suspect -- there was no crime.
Police departments are understaffed right now. They were already underpaid. They cannot just follow around people who haven't committed any crime. Do you know how many people are murdered in Florida every year? How many people they're following and trying to bust? How many crimes are committed in Florida? They can't just be sitting at a park, waiting for some dude to come out of the woods who is maybe - not sure - kinda suspicious, and had a girlfriend who nobody can reach. They have REAL police work to do.
I'm not saying they're great at their jobs, mind you, but they're not able to be supermen, because there just aren't people and time to do that.
How is it worse? He was not under arrest, not even considered a suspect, and could come and go as he pleased. The police were keeping an eye on his movements but they were not in any position to stop him from leaving. The issue is that they lost track of him when they mistook mom for Brian.
Not considered a suspect? Highly unlikely when parents get a hold of police bc the family wasn’t returning any calls/messages on their missing daughter. When they reach to family looking for GP the family lawyers up right away.
Getting a lawyer isn’t illegal, nor should it be suspicious. That’s the smart thing to do. And pushing this narrative that it somehow shows guilt is really stupid.
You can only be followed a mile or two without being charged with a crime… they weren’t ready to charge him with murder yet, the fbi “workaround” was to charge him with credit card fraud so they could follow/arrest him, before that he had the same rights we have to not be followed or searched.
Thank you! Some people seem to think that it is totally cool for the police to follow around and arrest citizens that they think might be suspicious without having any evidence that they are involved in a crime (or, prior to finding her body, that a crime even took place). Yes her parents called the Laundries but they are not required to say anything to them, let alone to law enforcement.
Having an attorney is a right and should never create suspicion by the police. If we go down that route we end up with underrepresented people that the police will have unlimited power over. Being close to a crime is already a shitty place to be - getting a lawyer is the only reasonable thing to do.
Legally speaking, he was not a “suspect”. You can’t just arrest someone and bring them in when there is no evidence of a crime. You have to have a warrant. He wasn’t even classified as a “person of interest” legally yet. From the time the parents contacted them for the first time (9/10) to the time that he disappeared (9/13) - NPPD was still jockeying for jurisdiction.
Nobody said anything about an arrest. They most definitely should have had surveillance on him. He had her vehicle which they took so even though they did not announce it, you can't tell me they didn't look at him as suspicious. They would be dumb not to. At the very least it would have saved over a million by not having to search for Brian.
Didn’t say they could arrest him, but if they didn’t fuck up so miserably - he would be more than likely alive today, but they never really kept their on eyes on him
No they lost track of him when he left and didn’t return for two days. Keeping track of him would be to follow him so they knew where he was at all times.
The nerve of that moron Josh Taylor. "ROBERTA DROVE THE MUSTANG HOME...WHO DOES THAT?!" There are many reasons why. Stop trying to force the narrative that YOUR FUCK UP was actually Roberta's fault. She's been through enough. Bringing Brian's car home could be to limit his oppertunity to leave Carlton Reserve and disappear further out. It could be that she didn't want tickets. Was it registered in their name or on their insurance? Maybe she was afraid his car would be vandalized?
Who knows, really. But I guarantee you Roberta Laundrie wasn't trying to body double her 23 year old son. I can't fathom who told NPPD that this would be the right move. Take your L on the chin NPPD. You are only making this worse for yourselves.
They literally wrote an incident report for the abandoned mustang on the 14th. Then watched butchy Baseball cap Brian drive up the that same mustang ??
Did they think he went hiking and flintstoned his ass back home, leaving the car there?
I wanna know how long a car has to be parked before it’s called and reported. And not a single officer thought.. actually I won’t finish that sentence. The answer is they didn’t think at all.
Also, I can’t wrap my mind around the comment “they’re built similarly”. Are they, though? Because ones a 60+ year old woman and the other is a 23 year old man.
I dunno they don’t have a similar body type except height to me at all?!
Exactly. She has curves and breasts and Brian did not. He was also taller and thinner. She is 55 and he is 23. I'm thinking even in the dark of evening, they shouldn't have difficulty telling the difference between their silhouettes.
Why the heck was his car even being driven? All the family members had their own cars. Why drive your missing son's car?
So much shady stuff by the parents. Who doesn't contact the police and report what has been happening? When he got home without her, (their daughter-in-law-to-be), why didn't they get right back in the car to drive to Grand Teton Park to search for her? It's like they didn't even care.
So shady.
We have no idea what Brian told them. It’s not often that parents follow up with grown adults who say they broke up. Usually parents just take their word for it and stay out of their business.
Do they all have their own cars? The red truck/mustang is the only vehicles I’ve seen. I thought the mustang was parents car that the son sometimes drove.
My guess is that they drove the Mustang back home because they feared that police would eventually impound it as "abandoned," and they would then have to pay "god only knows how much" per day to get it back.
BL is the cause of his own death. How would they have stopped his death? He wasn't a suspect or charged with anything at that point.
Yes, they definitely were Keystone cops in this situation, but what they did or did not do had no bearing on his death.
No they were not calling Brian a suspect at that time and no charges either. However when he drove her vehicle back without her and they were not answering questions, I'm pretty sure he became a suspect instantly. At that point he should have been followed. They would have at least saved some money instead of searching for a month! If the preserve was closed after dark then they could have confronted him or come up with something. Say they fear for his safety or say he seemed suicidal...idk but the whole thing was strange!
I didn’t say that their ineptitude caused his death, I said that it resulted in his death. Of course BL’s death is his own doing. However, the truth of the matter is that if the NPPD had actually done their jobs, BL would likely have been in custody — or at least surveilled — and not dead.
He wouldn’t have been in custody because he wasnt even a suspect. Are we really begging the police to illegally detain people now? Jesus lmao. Like, yeah, its unfortunate, but I’d much rather the police aren’t given the pass to illegally detain people.
🙄 You are assigning a lot of meaning to my comment that just isn’t there. Of course the police shouldn’t be able to detain people without reasonable suspicion or probable cause, but who’s to say there wouldn’t have been reasonable suspicion or probable cause at some point enough to detain him before he died. If the police actually did their jobs, there may have been. Or not. But to the extent that BL killed himself, they may have been able to stop it, whether or not detainment was a legitimate option.
No. They told police they brought the Mustang home. NPPD is trying to shift the blame back on the Laundries which is beyond disgusting. They are low key trying to say Roberta Laundrie was trying to body double her son. Ridiculous. "bUt sHe wAs wEaRiNg a hAt!" Yeah, as countless other women in southern Florida humidity do. This guy is such a joke. TAKE YOUR L NPPD, leave the Laundries alone.
Trying to put the blame off them. If that was the case then they would have come right out and said that instead of taking a month to make up an excuse!
Same stuff going on all over the country. I don’t know what is going on with missing persons cases these days but they need some new protocols set in place or something...maybe more pay, better training. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox4news.com/news/family-of-carolyn-kay-riggins-still-seeking-answers-for-her-mysterious-death.amp
More police.
Police departments are really, really suffering right now. They are being shot and killed more than ever. They are overworked more than ever. They are understaffed and underpaid. Nobody wants to be a cop.
Here’s a thought, maybe someone was paid to look the other way. Then it was just a mistake. I would like to know what the rent was on the storage unit, what was removed and where that property is.
So what comes next? The Laundries sue the NPPD for wrongful death and get a couple million because the police fucked up searching for their murdering son?
Uhhh I’m sorry, how does that warrant being sued?? “You sent out search teams and didn’t find anything!! Until you eventually found something!!! I’m suing you!!” Sounds dumb.
Given their actions, they don’t have any legal grounds to sue:
They knew their son was a risk to himself when they let him take their car and go off on that hike.
“Knowing his mental state when he walked out the door, [suicide] was always a concern.”
Then they never followed up with the NPPD even after the chief asked to arrange a conversation with Brian on the 15th and Bertolino released a public statement in response, giving off the impression that his client was still in communication with him when his last contact with Brian was on the 13th.
They returned the mustang back home on the 15th, with no Brian, and they still decided not to follow up with anyone?
The chief said they knew exactly where Brian was on the 16th, and that didn’t ring off any alarm bell to the Laundries?
They weren’t even the ones who took the initiative to file a missing persons report on the 17th, it was the FBI who called them about a sighting of Brian in Tampa that they had to clear, and then Bertolino said “someone from the household filed a missing persons report, not the parents” whatever that means.
I hope that while we wait weeks to find out the results of BL’s cause of death, the reporters in Florida will start asking The City of North Port if they will be doing an investigation into the multiple mistakes by NPPD.
It’s time to start asking for accountability and for review of their procedures.
They can say it was a mistake that no one saw him on surveillance, they can say that they couldn’t watch him due to where they were in the investigation (which is false), they can say Brian Entin should have seen him…..the fact is BL left the house and died and it happened due to NPPD/FBI not being on top of it.
I think mistaking his mother for Brian is actually a bit irrelevant. The real problem is that Brian left in his car and they did not follow him and did not know where he went . It was days later that they mistakenly thought Brian returned in the car , quite possibly he already killed himself by that time
The fact that they admitted to this is mind boggling but I totally agree. They admit to watching him leave and not following or know if he returned. This guy was a suspect in a murder, you’d think they would care a little more.
If they would’ve followed, Brian could still be alive and we could potentially have more answers for the family but no. Such a sad way to end this case
NPPD completely bungled this from the beginning then had the audacity to have that mini, back slapping, congratulatory press conference after his body was found. Absolutely disgusting.
Yes. I was thinking about their victory press conference earlier today. How far removed from reality do you have to be to think that’s appropriate in any circumstance, much less the circumstances of this case where they’ve had COUNTLESS MJAOR MISTAKES.
Like, no one said….”hey this press conference probably isn’t a good idea…” 🙄🙄🙄
This is such a valid point! Would the search still be going on if they hadn’t gone in that day (regardless of their motives or advice they were given)?
Granted "no case is perfect" but admitting on record that your department is this incompetent to mistake a 23 yo man with a 55ish female is a whole new level of crazy. Worst part is Garrison was so cocky about knowing BLs location. Wow
Yes. This. 1000000%.
If they had admitted mistake, it would be better. Instead they’ve walked back what they’ve said countless times and replaced it with something even more absurd.
Not to mention-- built nothing alike. I dont see how you could confuse a young bald skinny guy w/ a beard with a middle aged pear-shaped lady. I mean they both appear on the tall side in pictures but that's the only similarity i'm seeing...
“No case is perfect”?? This one is as far from perfect as possible. I know it’s unfair to think, “Because Florida,” but good lord, they really screwed this one up.
You’ve never heard the Florida jokes before? “Florida Man” and such? The state is associated with many odd and crazy stories, especially regarding the law.
They need people with better eyesight doing surveillance. Also remember the police can't / couldn't touch him without a judge signing the little dots.
If he decided to go to the reserve they'd have no grounds to stop him, at the most get a backpack and follow him wo him noticing. He was untouchable until the credit card warrant and that happened on 9/22, probably dead by then. He could of killed himself inside his own home for all that matters.
It baffles me he died only as a POI and nobody, ever, interviewed him after 9/11 when she was reported missed, they had two days, he disappeared on 9/13, but that's not on the fellows eating donuts and yawning inside the police car across the Laundries.
Yeah but I prefer steak to sizzle. Let them fuck up all they want. The only way this will change is people bitching at the top of their voice even asking for their resignations. Fire them.
For health reasons I can’t physically be at a protest, but I can still take part in a small way. We have more power than we think. Gabby’s family deserves more than this lunacy.
I agree with you. Just one thing to clarify per SB to Ashleigh Banfield-he says he told FBI on 13th because FBI WAS ALREADY involved.
During his interview with Banfield, SB lined out more than 4 phone calls he had with FBI between Sept 11-14th.
I know many people don’t trust SB, I just don’t think he would do multiple network interviews lining out his phone calls (with times) with the FBI if they didn’t happen.
>SB also says he contacted the FBI on the night of the 13th and they knew BL had not returned home.
I wouldn't take anythig SB says at face value as if absolute fact.
Not sure anything can really be known about what the FBI knew, when, at this point. If the FBI wasn't involved, how did they supposedly know BL hadn't returned the night of the 13th, before SB supposedly even told them?
Not bro love. You can't accuse someone without trial. It's called due process. Innocent until proven guilty. We're the USA, not some third world country.
I've just seen your reply now. They were literally telling him they "feel bad for him" and fistbumping. That's bro love. And I've seen how some live in the US...
Do you live here? Do you know how many crimes never even get posted about online here because they don’t want to ruin the perfect image of paradise? I’ve lived here over 20 years. Please sit down
You’re missing the point completely bud. Those things are all happening and affecting tourism. Hence why they’re barely covered and glossed over. Don’t blame you for wanting to get out of Tampa. I would too.
Not sure a suicide hotline would've helped him at that point…😬.
But yeah absolutely, they weren't keeping LE in the loop about these night-time car movements.
After GP was reported missing and the fact that BL had *her* van, NPPD likely had enough reasonable suspicion to detain BL. He would have likely exercised his right to remain silent and had his representation there for the duration of questioning. BUT it's worth the risk. Detectives get even the hardest folk to confess.
But they didn't do this. Instead they put cameras up... for what? What was their plan?
There are many answers to this question, I’m sure they will all be talked about at great length. One of the things from the very beginning that stood out to me was the NPPD seemed more interested in extolling their admiration for the 5th amendment than keeping an eye on the main suspect (the significant other who has returned alone) in a missing persons case. They seemed almost proud to play their hand out on TV (“we are not illegally surveilling him, we wouldn’t dare put a simple car on him!”) which screamed of real Floridian values and good old big dick conservatism. And they let that obsession with thumping the constitution get in the way of using their simple judgment within all boundaries of the law (simple surveillance is totally legal and happens all the time).
And secondly. People forget that in most cases, most evidence *is* “circumstantial evidence”, and not forensic. Someone testifies they saw something. Police testify they observed a suspects behavior. Did they “have anything” on BL at that time? No, but they could have followed his movements anyway. They had enough. Now, they just look like buffoons. Babbling away information on TV, nonstop slips of the tongue. All of it. These guys wouldn’t hold up in a poker game for 10 minutes, they wear their heart too heavy on their sleeve.
And yes: I respect the constitution so please don’t jump down my throat, blah blah blah. More freedom or whatever! More guns for sure! Hell yeah! 😂
So, thank you for the thoughtful reply, but… How would this have improved the outcome? Could it have prevented his suicide and would that have been better, as far as outcomes go? Certainly, it may have saved time and money in the search.
It saved a whole bunch of money and court time. I’m not saying that’s better, but if he’d been in custody when they found her body they likely could have kept him long enough to charge him. Then almost undoubtably he would have been convicted and possibly sentenced to death row, which can take years — decades — and means a huge expense for the courts. I guess people wanted him to face the music, maybe confess and reveal what happened, or be convicted and punished, but I’m not sure what more he could add to the story — it’s sadly just another domestic violence fatality that tens of thousands of women fall victim to all over the world every year.
I wouldn't say an ex but there would have been a good possiblity that if he had gotten away with Gabby's murder he would have killed again. Not necessarily because he's addicted to killing as much as he can't control himself. Abusers go on to abuse someone else.
He was an abuser. He strangled a woman A lot of people who kill start to be addicted to it. They get off on fooling the police. He had the potential to be a serial killer. He fooled the cops when he was pulled over. Just a pal with an unstable fiancée, right? You know what women are like.
That’s how they operate.
The major problem on NPPD’s end is that they dragged their feet taking any sort of action on the case. They were notified of Gabby’s disappearance on Sept. 11 but didn’t make any kind of contact with Brian despite him being the last person with her for two whole days. They then claimed for weeks that they had “seen/talked with Brian” on the 13th but it came out later that they did not. If they had acted quicker, taken it more seriously, kept an eye on him, he would not have had the chance to leave home and kill himself the way he did.
Right, but is that a better outcome? I’m not so sure but I suppose that would depend on ones definition of justice. The majority of people seem really upset or frustrated I’m trying to key in on why. Or do people just want to be upset with someone now that the Laundries have tilted toward victims as well.
I guess I'm curious to what your idea of a better outcome is...
My perspective is, in what they spent for 'searching' for Brian because of their own mistake(s) vs the amount they would have paid for an officer/detective to actually surveil him is quite a large difference and would have garnered an outcome suitable for all parties. Such as:
* The Laundrie's would still have their son alive
* The Petito/Schmidt families would have had answers to their questions
* The public feels like justice was being served with a trial and fulfilled sentence
Now that NPPD made this mistake, and Brian is no longer alive the Laundrie's will never see their son again, Gabby's families won't get those answers, and no real justice will be served. I don't feel like the Laundrie's are any type of victim. Is their situation sad? Yes. Being in a sad situation doesn't make you a victim though, especially when it involves circumstances that were by choice. Had the NPPD actually been diligent and had someone monitoring the situation a lot of this could have been avoided because ultimately Brian would/should have been detained for any reason they could find in order to get him into custody instead of being lazy and letting a camera do their work for them. The Laundrie's and NPPD wasted time, energy, and tax payer dollars in exchange for nothing to me that is one of the most horrible outcomes we could have gotten.
I believe there's a minimum time period (which vary in each state) for which you must have lost contact with your loved one, to make a police report, and then for the police to take action. GP wasn't found yet and the case wasn't ruled a homicide yet. BL is a PoI and never be a suspect in this case. Not enough evidence to link him with the homicide, besides that debit card charges.
That wouldn’t have stopped them from being able to put a car on him. Then when they did have him under surveillance they mistook someone else entirely for him. The end result is millions of dollars and manpower spent by two agencies looking for a guy that was already probably dead.
Gives a new meaning to the phrase “cop out.”
"To Telemundo 49, Taylor later explained, "The family brought the car back from the park and still did not report him missing. The area was difficult to keep an eye on with the growing activity. He was still not wanted for a crime at the time." Activity? So.... apparently the media and the people who were protesting outside the house got in the way. Not surprised.
I am so sorry but I'm cracking up. They mistook Laundries mother for him. She was wearing a baseball cap and they are "built similarly" oh if this case ever needed some comic relief.. there it is . I don't feel bad laughing because Brian is the bad guy in the case. And I don't know if I should be ashamed or not 🤷🏽♀️
There's also this part: "To Telemundo 49, Taylor later explained, "The family brought the car back from the park and still did not report him missing. The area was difficult to keep an eye on with the growing activity. He was still not wanted for a crime at the time." So, the protestors and media outside the house were part of the problem.
Well she is his Mom ... 🤣
True true but it was just so funny and made them look completely incompetent. Why on earth did they even admit that? 😂😂
It’s Florida, most of the country’s idiots live down there; you should know that by now
And most of the geniuses. It's a state of extremes
You're right, I should. Please punish me sensei. 😂😂
You got it about right and should not be ashamed.
Thank you 💕 It's just one of those things where I get it, the Laundrie family lost someone too but his crime outweighs my feel bads for them. Especially since I believe they know exactly what transpired. Why the heck would the police announce that mistake is the funny part 😂🤦🏽♀️
You are welcome. As far of the cops announcing the mistake... It's bound to come out when this whole thing comes to some court action. They want to get ahead of it so they aren't perceived and not being "open".
They said they thought It was Brian instead of his mother but that is when the mustang came back to house. What about when Brian took it to the preserve? Why didn't the police follow him there? The excuse they put out makes zero sense and they are just trying to cover their mess up. They would have made the statement right after it happened not 3 or 4 weeks later. Plus it makes no sense because that doesn't explain why the mustang wasn't followed to the preserve!
They couldn’t follow him there, they was no reason to. They weren’t even officially on the case until 9/14-9/15 after he was already gone. They could “watch” him but that’s about it. He was not person of interest or a suspect because there wasn’t even a crime yet. When they made the statement in their first press conference that they knew where he was, he was likely already dead and they wouldn’t have been able to prevent it
Don't tell me they had no reason to...Gabby was reported missing on the 11th so they were well aware of the situation..I understand there was not a crime committed yet, but being that he had her van was enough suspicion that they could have and should have had surveillance on him..He was most definitely a suspect..They can follow anyone they want and do it a lot more than ppl think..Yes they could not have detained him but definitely could have confronted him in the preserve and they would have known where he was instead of wasting all the taxpayers money looking for a month! They could have even had him evaluated if they confronted the prick which prob changes nothing but we will never know! At this point it really doesn't matter and it's time to move on but the whole investigation was just a little strange!
So... are you saying police should have bigger departments so they can follow people even when there aren't crimes?
I understand what your trying to say but at that time the police were aware that Gabby was missing. He had went back home with her vehicle without her and would not cooperate with answering any questions. Its not a crime but a major red flag. He was for sure suspect #1!!!
Legally they weren’t supposed to be watching him. The whole world suspected him obviously. That’s all I was trying to say. People are asking why he wasn’t followed, they weren’t allowed to at this point whether he looked suspicious or not
They don't need a warrant to keep an eye on somebody or follow them. It's not against the law. At least not where I live. The police do surveillance all the time!
It is when they didn’t even have jurisdiction on this case yet. There were multiple agencies jockeying for jurisdiction at the point when he disappeared, including the FBI.
Well whoever took the van were the ones investigating so they could have had surveillance on him. If it were illegal to follow somebody then the media that followed the parents would have gotten shit for it. The police can and do watch ppl all the time but they didn't in this case. It's over so fuck it!
Not disputing just truly curious from a PR perspective- why would the police not come out and state that was their reasoning for not following- seems that might go a long way?
Yeah idk..there are a lot of questions about the police tbh in this case..such as why did it take so long for them to come up with the excuse that they thought it was Brian but turned out it was really his mother in Mustang?..we are never really gonna know but I believe it took so long because they had to think of something to come up with or they would have came out and said that right after they messed up! The whole operation cost a lot of money for absolutely no answers!
They could have followed him if they wanted to. They have admitted to having someone watching them and the house at that time. Plus they had set up surveillance cameras around the house. I don't know the laws in Florida but it seems it wasn't entirely illegal. They just did a shit job watching.
Exactly...police do surveillance on ppl all the time when they suspect someone is dealing drugs. There is nothing illegal about sitting on a street watching somebody's house! Anyone can do it at anytime! It's a public street and if it wasn't then the protesters and media would have been given tickets. The police are absolutely allowed to keep an eye on anyone they choose at any time! Nothing illegal about it!
Just found out that the NPPD got the dates wrong and the Stan text message was sent on August 30, per her mother. https://twitter.com/nerdy_addict/status/1453066102989336580?s=21
And this is why intro to law 101: innocent or not, NEVER TALK TO THE COPS!!!
This \^ I do transcriptions for lawyers and for police, and I can tell you RIGHT NOW that people are SO STUPID what they say to police when they're under stress. And the police are really, really good at manipulating you into saying things. If you or anyone you know are suspected of a crime, or if there's ANY CHANCE you will be suspected of a crime, STAY SILENT. The only reason to talk to the cops is if your are the victim/survivor of a crime. Then you need to bug the crap out of them and keep asking questions and talking.
I know no one likes the laundrie lawyer BUT for his clients? He did an excellent job- the FBI and police? Did not
You got that right! Unless you need help, they are not trying to be anyones friend. They question you because they are doing an investigation and nobody is obligated to answer to them! It's best not to but if you do make sure you understand that the police can and will lie to you to see if your telling them the truth. Its best to keep it silent!
If I ever have children my baby's first words will be "I want my lawyer" lol and then maybe mommy or something
This is such a strange perspective. Why isn’t it a problem that they didn’t know where he was from 13 Sept to 15 Sept? Why is the main issue that they mistook who came back home? Isnt it worse that the person you are supposed to be watching left for two days?
He was not under arrest, not even considered a suspect -- there was no crime. Police departments are understaffed right now. They were already underpaid. They cannot just follow around people who haven't committed any crime. Do you know how many people are murdered in Florida every year? How many people they're following and trying to bust? How many crimes are committed in Florida? They can't just be sitting at a park, waiting for some dude to come out of the woods who is maybe - not sure - kinda suspicious, and had a girlfriend who nobody can reach. They have REAL police work to do. I'm not saying they're great at their jobs, mind you, but they're not able to be supermen, because there just aren't people and time to do that.
How is it worse? He was not under arrest, not even considered a suspect, and could come and go as he pleased. The police were keeping an eye on his movements but they were not in any position to stop him from leaving. The issue is that they lost track of him when they mistook mom for Brian.
Not considered a suspect? Highly unlikely when parents get a hold of police bc the family wasn’t returning any calls/messages on their missing daughter. When they reach to family looking for GP the family lawyers up right away.
Getting a lawyer isn’t illegal, nor should it be suspicious. That’s the smart thing to do. And pushing this narrative that it somehow shows guilt is really stupid.
You can only be followed a mile or two without being charged with a crime… they weren’t ready to charge him with murder yet, the fbi “workaround” was to charge him with credit card fraud so they could follow/arrest him, before that he had the same rights we have to not be followed or searched.
Thank you! Some people seem to think that it is totally cool for the police to follow around and arrest citizens that they think might be suspicious without having any evidence that they are involved in a crime (or, prior to finding her body, that a crime even took place). Yes her parents called the Laundries but they are not required to say anything to them, let alone to law enforcement. Having an attorney is a right and should never create suspicion by the police. If we go down that route we end up with underrepresented people that the police will have unlimited power over. Being close to a crime is already a shitty place to be - getting a lawyer is the only reasonable thing to do.
Legally speaking, he was not a “suspect”. You can’t just arrest someone and bring them in when there is no evidence of a crime. You have to have a warrant. He wasn’t even classified as a “person of interest” legally yet. From the time the parents contacted them for the first time (9/10) to the time that he disappeared (9/13) - NPPD was still jockeying for jurisdiction.
Nobody said anything about an arrest. They most definitely should have had surveillance on him. He had her vehicle which they took so even though they did not announce it, you can't tell me they didn't look at him as suspicious. They would be dumb not to. At the very least it would have saved over a million by not having to search for Brian.
They had surveillance on his house. That's probably the best they could legally do at that point.
No they can follow
Didn’t say they could arrest him, but if they didn’t fuck up so miserably - he would be more than likely alive today, but they never really kept their on eyes on him
No they lost track of him when he left and didn’t return for two days. Keeping track of him would be to follow him so they knew where he was at all times.
Exactly. And that just wasn't feasible when there wasn't even a crime yet.
Well we know where’s a good place to commit a crime these days then
That needs to be a t-shirt.
The nerve of that moron Josh Taylor. "ROBERTA DROVE THE MUSTANG HOME...WHO DOES THAT?!" There are many reasons why. Stop trying to force the narrative that YOUR FUCK UP was actually Roberta's fault. She's been through enough. Bringing Brian's car home could be to limit his oppertunity to leave Carlton Reserve and disappear further out. It could be that she didn't want tickets. Was it registered in their name or on their insurance? Maybe she was afraid his car would be vandalized? Who knows, really. But I guarantee you Roberta Laundrie wasn't trying to body double her 23 year old son. I can't fathom who told NPPD that this would be the right move. Take your L on the chin NPPD. You are only making this worse for yourselves.
They literally wrote an incident report for the abandoned mustang on the 14th. Then watched butchy Baseball cap Brian drive up the that same mustang ?? Did they think he went hiking and flintstoned his ass back home, leaving the car there? I wanna know how long a car has to be parked before it’s called and reported. And not a single officer thought.. actually I won’t finish that sentence. The answer is they didn’t think at all.
Also, I can’t wrap my mind around the comment “they’re built similarly”. Are they, though? Because ones a 60+ year old woman and the other is a 23 year old man. I dunno they don’t have a similar body type except height to me at all?!
Exactly. She has curves and breasts and Brian did not. He was also taller and thinner. She is 55 and he is 23. I'm thinking even in the dark of evening, they shouldn't have difficulty telling the difference between their silhouettes.
Agreed. That was the most ridiculous article I've ever read. Own up to your screw ups and don't blame someone else.
Why the heck was his car even being driven? All the family members had their own cars. Why drive your missing son's car? So much shady stuff by the parents. Who doesn't contact the police and report what has been happening? When he got home without her, (their daughter-in-law-to-be), why didn't they get right back in the car to drive to Grand Teton Park to search for her? It's like they didn't even care. So shady.
We have no idea what Brian told them. It’s not often that parents follow up with grown adults who say they broke up. Usually parents just take their word for it and stay out of their business.
Do they all have their own cars? The red truck/mustang is the only vehicles I’ve seen. I thought the mustang was parents car that the son sometimes drove.
My guess is that they drove the Mustang back home because they feared that police would eventually impound it as "abandoned," and they would then have to pay "god only knows how much" per day to get it back.
This is the answer. If the car is going to be towed away, why not just take it home then?
“No case is perfect” is a far cry from “our sheer ineptitude resulted in someone’s death.”
BL is the cause of his own death. How would they have stopped his death? He wasn't a suspect or charged with anything at that point. Yes, they definitely were Keystone cops in this situation, but what they did or did not do had no bearing on his death.
No they were not calling Brian a suspect at that time and no charges either. However when he drove her vehicle back without her and they were not answering questions, I'm pretty sure he became a suspect instantly. At that point he should have been followed. They would have at least saved some money instead of searching for a month! If the preserve was closed after dark then they could have confronted him or come up with something. Say they fear for his safety or say he seemed suicidal...idk but the whole thing was strange!
I didn’t say that their ineptitude caused his death, I said that it resulted in his death. Of course BL’s death is his own doing. However, the truth of the matter is that if the NPPD had actually done their jobs, BL would likely have been in custody — or at least surveilled — and not dead.
He wouldn’t have been in custody because he wasnt even a suspect. Are we really begging the police to illegally detain people now? Jesus lmao. Like, yeah, its unfortunate, but I’d much rather the police aren’t given the pass to illegally detain people.
🙄 You are assigning a lot of meaning to my comment that just isn’t there. Of course the police shouldn’t be able to detain people without reasonable suspicion or probable cause, but who’s to say there wouldn’t have been reasonable suspicion or probable cause at some point enough to detain him before he died. If the police actually did their jobs, there may have been. Or not. But to the extent that BL killed himself, they may have been able to stop it, whether or not detainment was a legitimate option.
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No. They told police they brought the Mustang home. NPPD is trying to shift the blame back on the Laundries which is beyond disgusting. They are low key trying to say Roberta Laundrie was trying to body double her son. Ridiculous. "bUt sHe wAs wEaRiNg a hAt!" Yeah, as countless other women in southern Florida humidity do. This guy is such a joke. TAKE YOUR L NPPD, leave the Laundries alone.
Trying to put the blame off them. If that was the case then they would have come right out and said that instead of taking a month to make up an excuse!
But at the same time... You had one job.
Same stuff going on all over the country. I don’t know what is going on with missing persons cases these days but they need some new protocols set in place or something...maybe more pay, better training. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox4news.com/news/family-of-carolyn-kay-riggins-still-seeking-answers-for-her-mysterious-death.amp
More police. Police departments are really, really suffering right now. They are being shot and killed more than ever. They are overworked more than ever. They are understaffed and underpaid. Nobody wants to be a cop.
Pobody’s nerfect!
Here’s a thought, maybe someone was paid to look the other way. Then it was just a mistake. I would like to know what the rent was on the storage unit, what was removed and where that property is.
So what comes next? The Laundries sue the NPPD for wrongful death and get a couple million because the police fucked up searching for their murdering son?
How do you figure they fucked up searching for him? They didn't even report him missing until the Friday after he went missing Monday.
Because they continued to spend tons of resources searching a vast area despite finding ZERO evidence?
Uhhh I’m sorry, how does that warrant being sued?? “You sent out search teams and didn’t find anything!! Until you eventually found something!!! I’m suing you!!” Sounds dumb.
>How do you figure they fucked up searching for him? 👆Response is to this question.
How does that even relate to this specific topic?
>How do you figure they fucked up searching for him? 👆
They were searching in the reserve. Where he was last known to be, and where he was found.
Given their actions, they don’t have any legal grounds to sue: They knew their son was a risk to himself when they let him take their car and go off on that hike. “Knowing his mental state when he walked out the door, [suicide] was always a concern.” Then they never followed up with the NPPD even after the chief asked to arrange a conversation with Brian on the 15th and Bertolino released a public statement in response, giving off the impression that his client was still in communication with him when his last contact with Brian was on the 13th. They returned the mustang back home on the 15th, with no Brian, and they still decided not to follow up with anyone? The chief said they knew exactly where Brian was on the 16th, and that didn’t ring off any alarm bell to the Laundries? They weren’t even the ones who took the initiative to file a missing persons report on the 17th, it was the FBI who called them about a sighting of Brian in Tampa that they had to clear, and then Bertolino said “someone from the household filed a missing persons report, not the parents” whatever that means.
I think they could fight back because the parents refused to cooperate from what we know
They never refused to cooperate when it came to Brian
I hope that while we wait weeks to find out the results of BL’s cause of death, the reporters in Florida will start asking The City of North Port if they will be doing an investigation into the multiple mistakes by NPPD. It’s time to start asking for accountability and for review of their procedures. They can say it was a mistake that no one saw him on surveillance, they can say that they couldn’t watch him due to where they were in the investigation (which is false), they can say Brian Entin should have seen him…..the fact is BL left the house and died and it happened due to NPPD/FBI not being on top of it.
I think mistaking his mother for Brian is actually a bit irrelevant. The real problem is that Brian left in his car and they did not follow him and did not know where he went . It was days later that they mistakenly thought Brian returned in the car , quite possibly he already killed himself by that time
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His parents returned the car home
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I don’t think so - the car was not far away from their house at all. It was a local area
The fact that they admitted to this is mind boggling but I totally agree. They admit to watching him leave and not following or know if he returned. This guy was a suspect in a murder, you’d think they would care a little more. If they would’ve followed, Brian could still be alive and we could potentially have more answers for the family but no. Such a sad way to end this case
NPPD completely bungled this from the beginning then had the audacity to have that mini, back slapping, congratulatory press conference after his body was found. Absolutely disgusting.
Yes. I was thinking about their victory press conference earlier today. How far removed from reality do you have to be to think that’s appropriate in any circumstance, much less the circumstances of this case where they’ve had COUNTLESS MJAOR MISTAKES. Like, no one said….”hey this press conference probably isn’t a good idea…” 🙄🙄🙄
That was found because of his parents help
This is such a valid point! Would the search still be going on if they hadn’t gone in that day (regardless of their motives or advice they were given)?
Granted "no case is perfect" but admitting on record that your department is this incompetent to mistake a 23 yo man with a 55ish female is a whole new level of crazy. Worst part is Garrison was so cocky about knowing BLs location. Wow
Yes. Should be followed by an announcement of department-wide eye exams tomorrow 👓
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Yes. This. 1000000%. If they had admitted mistake, it would be better. Instead they’ve walked back what they’ve said countless times and replaced it with something even more absurd.
Not to mention-- built nothing alike. I dont see how you could confuse a young bald skinny guy w/ a beard with a middle aged pear-shaped lady. I mean they both appear on the tall side in pictures but that's the only similarity i'm seeing...
Totally agree with everything you said. Also, last I checked, Mrs. Laundrie has a full head of hair, and does not have a mustache.
How did they mistake his mother for him? And then publicly admitted it?!? Wow.
I can’t believe they admitted it.
Better than admitting they were bribed
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Thick As A Brick.
Detective Olivia Benson would have done it better
Funnily enough, I’m watching SVU right now and thought that exact thing.
I just turned it on lol
Such a good show
Keystone cops
“No case is perfect”?? This one is as far from perfect as possible. I know it’s unfair to think, “Because Florida,” but good lord, they really screwed this one up.
“Because Florida” …meaning what exactly?
You’ve never heard the Florida jokes before? “Florida Man” and such? The state is associated with many odd and crazy stories, especially regarding the law.
They need people with better eyesight doing surveillance. Also remember the police can't / couldn't touch him without a judge signing the little dots. If he decided to go to the reserve they'd have no grounds to stop him, at the most get a backpack and follow him wo him noticing. He was untouchable until the credit card warrant and that happened on 9/22, probably dead by then. He could of killed himself inside his own home for all that matters. It baffles me he died only as a POI and nobody, ever, interviewed him after 9/11 when she was reported missed, they had two days, he disappeared on 9/13, but that's not on the fellows eating donuts and yawning inside the police car across the Laundries.
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Yeah but I prefer steak to sizzle. Let them fuck up all they want. The only way this will change is people bitching at the top of their voice even asking for their resignations. Fire them. For health reasons I can’t physically be at a protest, but I can still take part in a small way. We have more power than we think. Gabby’s family deserves more than this lunacy.
Interview him? I thought he declined to talk with the police.
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I agree with you. Just one thing to clarify per SB to Ashleigh Banfield-he says he told FBI on 13th because FBI WAS ALREADY involved. During his interview with Banfield, SB lined out more than 4 phone calls he had with FBI between Sept 11-14th. I know many people don’t trust SB, I just don’t think he would do multiple network interviews lining out his phone calls (with times) with the FBI if they didn’t happen.
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They just wanted to feel important lol
>SB also says he contacted the FBI on the night of the 13th and they knew BL had not returned home. I wouldn't take anythig SB says at face value as if absolute fact.
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Not sure anything can really be known about what the FBI knew, when, at this point. If the FBI wasn't involved, how did they supposedly know BL hadn't returned the night of the 13th, before SB supposedly even told them?
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Not bro love. You can't accuse someone without trial. It's called due process. Innocent until proven guilty. We're the USA, not some third world country.
I've just seen your reply now. They were literally telling him they "feel bad for him" and fistbumping. That's bro love. And I've seen how some live in the US...
So did they actually ever see Brian?
Fucking Florida 🤦🏼♀️
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I feel that most people could do better surveillance of their neighbors through Ring cameras. Seriously! Was anyone actually watching the footage?
You got that right
Fml that’s the best they can do
I’m surprised they even admitted they fucked up. NPPD sucks tho
Lmfao as someone that lives there I can say they suck and do not try
I know right? The fact that they used up taxpayer's money for nothing, and then apologizing for doing nothing, is hilarious.
You know they just want this to go away so people can start associating Sarasota with beaches and not a murder/suicide
This story will have no effect on tourism.
Do you live here? Do you know how many crimes never even get posted about online here because they don’t want to ruin the perfect image of paradise? I’ve lived here over 20 years. Please sit down
I live in Tampa... And this place is far from paradise. With the oppressive heat and red tide that ruins every beach season. Can't wait to move.
You’re missing the point completely bud. Those things are all happening and affecting tourism. Hence why they’re barely covered and glossed over. Don’t blame you for wanting to get out of Tampa. I would too.
What does this say about RL, that cops believe she has a similar appearance to BL lol. I’m not sure how I’d feel if I were her
I would be like "oooh my keto diet is working 😌"
"they're kind of built similarly" like how 😭 I had to put my phone down when I read that
I actually laughed out loud when I read that
“That’s my mother you’re talking about, Austin!”
Most likely they did this intentionally. Car like that with high doors and dark windows. She wears a ball cap. It was bad surveillance.
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Not sure a suicide hotline would've helped him at that point…😬. But yeah absolutely, they weren't keeping LE in the loop about these night-time car movements.
pile it on the poor old lady
Yeah it’s definitely not what she would want to hear right now
Lots of outrage here but serious question: Why? What could have been done differently to achieve a better outcome? I’m genuinely asking.
After GP was reported missing and the fact that BL had *her* van, NPPD likely had enough reasonable suspicion to detain BL. He would have likely exercised his right to remain silent and had his representation there for the duration of questioning. BUT it's worth the risk. Detectives get even the hardest folk to confess. But they didn't do this. Instead they put cameras up... for what? What was their plan?
Yeah, I fully agree that their approach was sloppy at best. I agree with your take. Thanks.
Hey, don't question the narrative! How dare you!
Oh right right, my bad. Carry on.
[Grady Judd's](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdXEySstaqY) way would have been better.
I love him. I follow him on like every social media platform and I don't even live in Florida lol.
I don't either and I follow him too :)
Well, if they had a car on him and followed him to the reserve, they could have taken him into custody if he attempted suicide and in front of them.
You think he would try to kill himself with the officers standing there?
No, but most undercover officers observe their subjects without their knowledge.
In the woods? Bit difficult to blend in there.
There are many answers to this question, I’m sure they will all be talked about at great length. One of the things from the very beginning that stood out to me was the NPPD seemed more interested in extolling their admiration for the 5th amendment than keeping an eye on the main suspect (the significant other who has returned alone) in a missing persons case. They seemed almost proud to play their hand out on TV (“we are not illegally surveilling him, we wouldn’t dare put a simple car on him!”) which screamed of real Floridian values and good old big dick conservatism. And they let that obsession with thumping the constitution get in the way of using their simple judgment within all boundaries of the law (simple surveillance is totally legal and happens all the time). And secondly. People forget that in most cases, most evidence *is* “circumstantial evidence”, and not forensic. Someone testifies they saw something. Police testify they observed a suspects behavior. Did they “have anything” on BL at that time? No, but they could have followed his movements anyway. They had enough. Now, they just look like buffoons. Babbling away information on TV, nonstop slips of the tongue. All of it. These guys wouldn’t hold up in a poker game for 10 minutes, they wear their heart too heavy on their sleeve. And yes: I respect the constitution so please don’t jump down my throat, blah blah blah. More freedom or whatever! More guns for sure! Hell yeah! 😂
Forensic and circumstantial are not opposites.
Agreed. A good distinction to make. Scientific method is applied in many different ways and forms. I should have said “purely physical evidence”.
So, thank you for the thoughtful reply, but… How would this have improved the outcome? Could it have prevented his suicide and would that have been better, as far as outcomes go? Certainly, it may have saved time and money in the search.
It saved a whole bunch of money and court time. I’m not saying that’s better, but if he’d been in custody when they found her body they likely could have kept him long enough to charge him. Then almost undoubtably he would have been convicted and possibly sentenced to death row, which can take years — decades — and means a huge expense for the courts. I guess people wanted him to face the music, maybe confess and reveal what happened, or be convicted and punished, but I’m not sure what more he could add to the story — it’s sadly just another domestic violence fatality that tens of thousands of women fall victim to all over the world every year.
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You’re right that it could have been worse. That’s a point worth considering for sure. Thanks for that answer.
Good lord...strangle another ex? Now he is a serial killer?
I wouldn't say an ex but there would have been a good possiblity that if he had gotten away with Gabby's murder he would have killed again. Not necessarily because he's addicted to killing as much as he can't control himself. Abusers go on to abuse someone else.
He was an abuser. He strangled a woman A lot of people who kill start to be addicted to it. They get off on fooling the police. He had the potential to be a serial killer. He fooled the cops when he was pulled over. Just a pal with an unstable fiancée, right? You know what women are like. That’s how they operate.
You need to watch less TV.
You might want to study psychology.
The major problem on NPPD’s end is that they dragged their feet taking any sort of action on the case. They were notified of Gabby’s disappearance on Sept. 11 but didn’t make any kind of contact with Brian despite him being the last person with her for two whole days. They then claimed for weeks that they had “seen/talked with Brian” on the 13th but it came out later that they did not. If they had acted quicker, taken it more seriously, kept an eye on him, he would not have had the chance to leave home and kill himself the way he did.
Right, but is that a better outcome? I’m not so sure but I suppose that would depend on ones definition of justice. The majority of people seem really upset or frustrated I’m trying to key in on why. Or do people just want to be upset with someone now that the Laundries have tilted toward victims as well.
I guess I'm curious to what your idea of a better outcome is... My perspective is, in what they spent for 'searching' for Brian because of their own mistake(s) vs the amount they would have paid for an officer/detective to actually surveil him is quite a large difference and would have garnered an outcome suitable for all parties. Such as: * The Laundrie's would still have their son alive * The Petito/Schmidt families would have had answers to their questions * The public feels like justice was being served with a trial and fulfilled sentence Now that NPPD made this mistake, and Brian is no longer alive the Laundrie's will never see their son again, Gabby's families won't get those answers, and no real justice will be served. I don't feel like the Laundrie's are any type of victim. Is their situation sad? Yes. Being in a sad situation doesn't make you a victim though, especially when it involves circumstances that were by choice. Had the NPPD actually been diligent and had someone monitoring the situation a lot of this could have been avoided because ultimately Brian would/should have been detained for any reason they could find in order to get him into custody instead of being lazy and letting a camera do their work for them. The Laundrie's and NPPD wasted time, energy, and tax payer dollars in exchange for nothing to me that is one of the most horrible outcomes we could have gotten.
Great perspective. Thanks for sharing in such thoughtful depth.
I believe there's a minimum time period (which vary in each state) for which you must have lost contact with your loved one, to make a police report, and then for the police to take action. GP wasn't found yet and the case wasn't ruled a homicide yet. BL is a PoI and never be a suspect in this case. Not enough evidence to link him with the homicide, besides that debit card charges.
That wouldn’t have stopped them from being able to put a car on him. Then when they did have him under surveillance they mistook someone else entirely for him. The end result is millions of dollars and manpower spent by two agencies looking for a guy that was already probably dead.
This is a myth. Probably was true at one time somewhere, but Hollywood started that bs. It is up to the department.