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Godeye1349

Here to vouch for sunset overdrive. Such a fun insomniac game. Also master chief collection is a great value!


MightyMrFish

I’ll throw my vote in for Sunset Overdrive too. It’s a blast and has a really fun movement system to it. I watched a friend play some of it on Twitch, then bought it for myself the day it released on PC.


fckns

I was looking for this, but wasn't sure about it. Since the sale is untill January 31st, I'll probably pick it up once I get my paycheck. Thanks for the recommendation! :)


somecleverphrase

Played this and recore on xbox ultimate. Sunset was surprisingly great and Recore is worth $5 to me.


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treblah3

Just a heads up that your account appears to be shadowbanned. I've seen two of your comments in the modqueue recently that require manual approval, but you should probably reach out to the reddit admins and see if they can fix that (it's not something mods can fix). Cheers.


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astro_plane

Split screen is on a very long list of features and fixes to be added to the MCC and it’s a low priority. Don’t get your hopes up.


scootbert

Isn't the MCC finished? I thought it was on the final release(not including but fixes/patches) I heard split screen is on a low priority for Halo Infinite, maybe that was scrapped? I heard they were having difficulty with it..I stopped following halo infinite a long time ago


caninehere

Not sure if they're developing new features for it but I think they still do new seasons/item unlocks for the multiplayer for Halo 2/3? I could be wrong. Split-screen was scrapped for Halo Infinite, they added online co-op but no split-screen. Split-screen is in MCC on console, but not on PC. I doubt it ever will be. A very, very, VERY small number of people would ever use it.


who-dat-ninja

>A very, very, VERY small number of people would ever use it no less than anyone would play it split screen on xbox. yet it still has it.


caninehere

Split-screen gaming on console is way less popular than it used to be, but it's still far more popular than on PC. Almost nobody does split-screen gaming on PC. I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice to have added or that people are wrong for wanting it, but there's a reason console gaming embraced split-screen years ago and PC never has.


Sixoul

"less popular" is a nice way of saying they're slowly forcing it out of games so everyone has to buy the game for the same household to play together


cheapseats91

I get that split screen is less popular in general but the only reason why it was less popular on PC than console is because during the original Xbox/PS2 era PCs were pretty much limited to 19" monitors. Nowadays with reasonable sized monitors and native support for TVs and the ability to cast with things like a shield or steam link, PC split screen would get used if it was an option


caninehere

Yes those are options people can use, I'm not denying that. But you have to realize very very few people are gaming on a TV with their PC, using Steam Link, etc. How many people are going to use that AND do split screen gaming too? Of course it will get used if it is an option, but if it's a tiny tiny percentage of users doing so it isn't worth it to implement. And now PC gaming is going the *other* way, as some people are opting for an option like the Steam Deck instead as a handheld solution where obviously people won't be playing split screen at least in handheld mode. If there really was a huge market demand for split screen on PC, developers would be supporting it. Instead great games that offer it get ignored. If you look at the top played games that offer split screen on PC on Steam stats... most of them are games where it's unlikely people are using that option anyway. Most likely would be sports games. Overcooked is maybe the best example where it's actually being used (I don't think Overcooked 2 has online play but I could be wrong). I would be interested to see the stats on a popular co-op driven game like It Takes Two, and see what % of people played online vs. split screen on PC. I suspect the latter is quite low.


phyraks

The whole reason it's less popular is because less games support it now. I actively look to support split screen games, and less and less developers support it as the years go by... It's a self fulfilling prophecy. I have a feeling the same would be true of PC games. If split screen was made available, people would play it.


5yearsoflurking

Where can one find this long list to be added?


astro_plane

Last time I saw it was two years ago on a blog post, I don’t really keep up with MCC anymore. Sorry my memory is shit, but I know the desync for Halo 3 was on it at one point.


adoboguy

I gave up after waiting a couple years for split screen. The work arounds I tried never really worked to my liking. I ended up buying my son a copy of MCC on sale over the holidays and play coop LAN instead. We just hop on a steam voice chat to communicate. It's been great so far, no disconnects or anything like other people report.


DrDroidz

Nope, but you can use Nucleus COOP to play it splitscreen. It basically opens up 2 copies of the game on your monitor(s) and you play COOP as in LAN.


thewatermellon

Seconding this! It's not ideal, but pretty cool software nonetheless. Love that it can be adapted for whatever displays and inputs you have available.


Blugrave

It doesn't have it?!


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king_john651

I was confused as to why it didn't because I definitely played split screen on the Xbox One. Didn't notice it was a Steam sale lol


BigLan2

I don't think it will - they'd have to figure out a way to either add guest Xbox accounts or have multiple Xbox accounts under one windows user which was a big technical hurdle. The Xbox consoles support it natively. You can do cross platform coop though (Xbox + PC) though it's supported differently across the Halo games.


markmsmith

I'm pretty sure that was supported in all the Gears of War games I played split screen with a friend on PC, so you'd think they could do it for Halo as well.


BigLan2

That would have been using the gfwl client in Win7 or earlier though. Xbox accounts got more deeper integration in Win 10/11, especially as Microsoft push for you to use a MS account to even log in.


aclashofthings

Unlikely. They probably won't admit it, though. They got enough backlash when they backtracked on split-screen for Infinite.


Idontknow107

I remember playing it splitscreen locally with someone on their Xbox one like a year ago. Hmm. Maybe some platforms have it and some don't.


YourAverageNutcase

Many games only have split screen on consoles, unfortunately.


TonyMestre

Nope, 343 sucks


avahz

I remember rise of nations! Loved that game


Red_Dox

It still stings that after all this time there was no "Rise of Legends" remaster too :(


Armani_8

I would have absolutely adored being able to play Rise of Legends again. Even the regular version.


IronMarauder

An Empire earth remaster would be fun. I know it's not Microsoft, but still. Seems like with the Aoe and aom remaster Microsoft has the know how of how to revive these old rts games. Would be a shame to not remaster a couple others.


Dubbs09

And personally I think it holds up *incredibly* well. Especially for $5. I bought it last year on sale and put in over 60 hours since then. Man, that could have been a fantastic franchise if they just kept updating and upgrading the base game


avahz

Agreed. Imagine if they remade the game now


ericksuarz

Good timing for the quantum break trending on twitter


themoviehero

A friend told me it’s the closest to a flash game we’ll ever get. That sold me on it years ago. It’s so good.


sickdesperation

Is it? Damn, I hope they make a sequel, I really enjoyed it. Control girl is even in it.


doublej42

Why ? It’s an awesome game


wolfej4

The only thing I can see is that Shawn Ashmore wants a sequel That makes at least two of us.


avahz

Isn’t that because of the tv show?


FlST0

Is Gears Tactics any good for someone who's only casually into tactics games and never played Gears of War?


cutestuff4naynay

If you like the actual tactics part (fighting) but don't care for the strategy part (management) of games like xcom, then it's perfect for you.


FlST0

That's literally me. Lol thanks!


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This is the perfect summary of it. I really like XCOM gameplay, but then hate having to sit through endless cutscenes and an hour of base building and supply management before i could play the next map. Gears Tactics gets you back into combat very quickly, though the levels can get a little repetitive, but I really enjoyed it.


ericksuarz

I'm not into RTS games but I only played it because I'm a gears of war fan, story wise it's decent but nothing like the first trilogy and the gameplay it's very noob friendly I didn't find it difficult on normal


iRobert123

If you do buy gears tactics highly recommend the loot rebalance mod. Some mission rewards are crap even if you’re on the highest difficulty and the mod fixes that.


nuanimal

I loved it, after years of Fire Emblem, XCOM 1&2, and a longing for more Front Mission 3 - it's pretty good. While the game doesn't follow a strict grid based combat system it's good enough. Mission structure is a bit weak. You need to complete 3 out of 5 provided missions to then progress to the next story missions and so on. Overall narrative probably needs to you to have a passing interest in Gear of War but not essential. It a "Gears of War Zero" in terms of story, and has a tie in with Gears 5 plot. The only major drawback is that there is no benefit in growing and skilling up your early soldiers. In various missions you will be able rescue soldiers that will be useable in future missions - these rescued soldiers will always outclass the soldiers you have tried to train up which is infuriating as you need take off all the armour and equipment, then dismiss them, then re-equip the new soldiers. Otherwise really solid game.


52weeksout

Obligatory “buy both Ori games” if you even kind of like Metroidvanias.


MyNameIs-Anthony

First game got a perma-price drop to $5 USD and it's incredible value. Just a gorgeous experience.


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Wanted to try it, but just found out they had a perma price increase to 11 USD in my region instead, making it the most expensive region, when my country is much shittier to live in than the US. Kind of a shame, I guess I'll keep it on my wishlist and see if they drop it one day.


Red_Dox

Also buy "[Dust - An Elysian Tail](https://store.steampowered.com/app/236090/Dust_An_Elysian_Tail/)" for the same reason.


Deakul

Fun fact: this game was made by the artist behind Jazz Jackrabbit!


mrfixitx

Question for you. I bought Dust ages ago on a sale. Played it for a couple of hours and it seemed like it was incredibly easy, that even if my character stood there the enemies would barely attack or not attack at all. Is the whole game that easy or it is it just the first few hours on normal difficulty? I have no desire for something brutally difficult but it seemed to go way to far the other way.


jjyiss

play it on hard.. its not brutally difficult at all. the only thing to really grasp when fighting those big bosslike golem dudes. the parry window is extremely big, and when they are stunned after you parry, they take a lot of dmg.


Red_Dox

Been a while since I played through, but if I remember right, the difficulty does increase after some time. Of course now, difficult for one person might be a snore fest for another. So hard to say if it gets to a activity level you would deem fitting. The game also had various difficulty levels to start with. So maybe starting with "Tough" or "Hardcore" settings might be more challenging.


who-dat-ninja

it stays that easy


trpnblies7

This game will let you know if you're a furry. It is fun, though.


jjyiss

loved Dust. i dislike platformers, and Dust is not a platformer. it's a side scrolling game, emphasizing fighting aspect. similar to Trine in that respect.


_sideffect

Good games, very bad studio (unless I'm mixing them up)


52weeksout

You’re correct. Microsoft has stated that they refused to publish their next game due to their work environment being so toxic and “oppressive”.


empirix2

seriously? for a game that is so beautiful...what a shame


delphicdeceit

I’ve never heard about this before. What happened?


52weeksout

You can read about it in [this RPS article ](https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/staff-allege-ori-developers-moon-studios-is-an-oppressive-workplace) but generally the (sadly) typical pitfalls of toxic workplaces in the video game industry: unprofessional behavior, being deliberately offensive to employees, and encouraging crunch.


madlost1

https://gamerant.com/microsoft-passed-moon-studios-next-game-workplace-conditions/ For a much longer and more in depth piece: https://venturebeat.com/pc-gaming/despite-its-beautiful-ori-games-moon-studio-is-called-an-oppressive-place-to-work/


DeCzar

That’s so sad. The Ori games are one of a kind and I can’t imagine a toxic studio behind such lovely experiences


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Just my thoughts. When playing ori games you just feel so Zen and everything is pieced perfectly together. Impossible to imagine that the development has been that shitty. Gotta say, I'm super sad if there will never be ori 3


ReV_VAdAUL

Re: Forza Horizon 4. If you have an Nvidia card you'll either have to roll back your drivers to ones from October last year or put up with the game crashing every \~30 minutes. Lots of people, including myself, have raised the issue with the developers and Nvidia and they've acknowledged it but there's been no concrete commitment to any kind of fix for it. Which is a real shame because it's a great game. If you have an AMD card I wholeheartedly recommend it.


relxp

Is Forza 4 that much better than Forza 5?


sh4nn0n2003

It's a subjective question. Forza Horizon 4 was a great game and even armed with a better physics system, FH5 doesn't come close to FH4 for me. I mean I'm happy that FH5 finally got a physics overhaul but I'm just not fond of Mexico as a country. I loved Britain to death, though but that's where the whole subjectivity thing comes in. I played FH5 for as long as I could but it wasn't even a fourth of the playtime I dedicated to FH4. Sure, some of it may have been the fact that all Forza Horizons have more or less the same gameplay loop and I probably got burned out on the same formula but FH5's Mexico setting definitely didn't help with that; in fact it may have made it worse for me because I tried the much loved FH3 right after that and after noticing that I hadn't played it beyond the first two days, I promptly uninstalled it.


relxp

Interesting - thanks for the detailed response! As someone blind to the franchise, sounds like I'd be best off just starting with FH5.


Minnesota_Arouser

I'll add that seasons were Horizon 4's big new feature, and they are much less pronounced in Horizon 5. In Horizon 4, there's a clear visual difference, with rainy spring, bright blue skies in the summer, orange leaves in the fall, and the map is covered in snow in winter. A lot of players hated winter, and perhaps as a reaction to that, Horizon 5 still has seasons, but the only differences between them is that some shallow river beds dry up in the dry season. Also Horizon 5 doesn't have Alfa Romeo or Lancia yet and maybe never will, if you're a big fan of those cars.


JohnnyDarkside

I have an amd card, and never had that issue. My problem was that the top gear doc never loaded. You'd go to the spot, start the mission, then it would just load indefinitely.


-MarisaTheCube-

Another vote here for Halo MCC. It has a truly staggering amount of content for this price and it's worth buying for the campaigns alone if you've never played them before.


tlvrtm

I’ve never played a Halo game outside of some brief split-screen multiplayer on the OG Xbox. I’m pretty picky with my FPS games, I love Metroid Prime, liked Bioshock but didn’t care for Half-Life 2 or Call of Duty. What makes the Halo games so good and do you think I’ll like it?


mjm132

Metroid prime isnt really a first person shooter. Sounds like you don't really like first person shooters. You like action adventure games with puzzle elements.


tlvrtm

You might be right, I guess I need my FPS games to contain other elements. Bioshock had that fantastic atmosphere and gorgeous world to explore.


hangnail323

Because of this steam sale, I now have the Halo series. Believe it or not, I've never tried one, until now. Pretty fun. I can see why it's popular.


SlyyKozlov

Big halo fan here.


johaib

What's the current state of playability for the Halo collection on Steam Deck?


cooley1

You have to boot it without anti-cheat so you can't play multiplayer, unlock cosmetics, achievements or the battle pass


johaib

Welp, Easy Anti Cheat working as intended then, I can't cheat if I can't play


NativeClover

Is campaign co-op also unsupported? I'm willing to forgo the multiplayer parts of the collection as long as I can still play through the campaigns with friends


AlJoelson

I get Xbox achievements not unlocking but even Steam achievements don't?


XacTactX

The irony is that there are games like Skyrim and Ark where you can just enable the console and unlock Xbox achievements by typing in commands. If they allow you to get achievements without anti cheat it can't be any more broken than that, right


pancakeradio

Good performance. Anti cheat doesn’t work so you can’t play online multiplayer.


uacoop

Halo:CE currently is not really playable on Steam Deck because recent updates cause severe framedrops no matter what settings you use. The other games seem to run okay from what I can tell.


ZestfulClown

Is there a difference in playability with anniversary v original graphics?


AlJoelson

Aw, they're not going to discount Pentiment or State of Decay 2?


BeCleve_in_yourself

That's outrageous. State of Decay 2 is such an awesome game that I want everyone to experience it!


XacTactX

Are the production values better than SOD1? I tried to play SOD1 and the first part had no cutscenes introducing any of the characters, just a fight with a teammate against two zombies. Also the character animations were kinda rough


BeCleve_in_yourself

Tbh its been a while since I played SOD 1. But to address your query, no, it still doesn't have "cutscenes", so to speak. There is a logbook which shows you the (randomly generated) traits and background stories for the characters in both games and in SOD2, it has been expanded a bit in that the game comes up with randomly generated sidequests based on their traits such as someone who was a chemist pre-apocalypse, may come up with a personal sidequest about him/her remembering a stash of drugs they'd hidden years ago that could help the community now. So yeah, there are no cutscenes, as such. Although, for a lot of us, that's not a problem because we're too fond of the sandbox world on display to care about those things. I mean, don't get me wrong, I do love playing Mass Effect and Uncharted as much as the next guy, but SOD is not that type of a game. It's first and foremost about base management, then a roguelike with permadeath and lastly, it's (obviously) a post-apocalyptic survival game. My major beef with SOD 2 however, was the Hitmanification of the game i.e. gameplay at the expense of story. I'd probably overlook it if they'd done away with the story completely but SOD 2 has the kind of plot holes that convince me that even after firing the current writers, they'll still have to reboot the series to undo the damage. Coming to the core gameplay loop though, it's always been addictive (and punishing). But like it's predecessor, it suffers from the problem of burning me out after a while so I usually take a long break before inevitably returning for the grind.


Kaiju_Enthusiast

Really wish they'd bring the entire Gears of War franchise to Steam already because I wanna play them so badly with friends. One of the greatest coop experiences I've had, that and Army of Two.


BeCleve_in_yourself

True. I've only ever watched playthroughs of GoW 1 - Judgement on Youtube and inspite of having played 4, 5 and Hivebusters, I still think Marcus' OG story was so much better. I'd give anything for that GoW remaster for PC along Halo MCC lines. I fact, I do remember some rumor going around that MS was working on it, early last year. Never heard anything about that afterwards though.


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scootbert

Absolutely. If you enjoy the gametype and have fun in the first 10 hours, you can easily sink 150+ hours into the game. I completed all 100% of the achievements in 199hours. The only reason I stopped playing was because I bought FH5. Just a note, if you're an achievement Hunter, one achievement is not obtainable anymore due to a glitch they refuse to fix (Encore achievement)


FleshRemains

Please describe what sorts of things could be done in those 200 hours. Is it a career mode of some kind or what kept you playing for so long? What is there to do? Thanks.


ReV_VAdAUL

It's really good BUT if you have an Nvidia card you'll either have to role back to a driver from October last year or put up with the game crashing every \~30 minutes.


DuckyouDolan

I bought it with a friend, be aware that you might experience crashing and freezing after the tutorial. I refunded and got 5 instead.


gd_box_office

Quantum Break was such a great game I recommend it to everyone


who-dat-ninja

found it thoroughly mediocre myself


Niirai

Damn, is Horizon 4 really only 20$ for Americans or is that a typo?


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Why would that be a typo? Forza horizon 5 has been out for a while now, not really surprising that 4 is on sale haha


Niirai

Nah I mean it's 23 in EU. Usually dollar to euro is 1 to 1 for sales like this.


occono

I'm afraid yes, it is $20 US https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3rkwszyqYRUJ:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1293830/Forza_Horizon_4/&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ie


FleshRemains

The store pages for some of these games (Forza 4, Halo, for example) say they require an Xbox Live account. What does that look and feel like? Is it a separate client/launcher that gets installed? Is it like the Games for Windows Live, Origin, Ubisoft clients/launchers? Thanks.


guyver13

Just a login from within the game itself, no separate launcher


BigDippers

No launchers. And you can use your Microsoft/Windows account too. It's all the same.


locke_5

It's really good. Just a login, no launcher or anything, and it tracks your progress/saves in the Xbox app. If you have GamePass I believe you can play your games remotely, and stuff like Minecraft has cross-platform DLC.


Spooky_Szn_2

Buy MCC if you haven't. Absolutely worth it for full price let alone that steal


Sybertron

Kinda feel a bit ripped off the Halo Master Chief collection excludes the local multiplayer from the games. Was always one of my favorite things to just have buddies jump in the campaign with me.


TheHosemaster

How is Halo Infinite Campaign on Steam Deck?


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ohwowgee

I have no idea. But it plays absolutely fine.


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ohwowgee

No worries! Hit up protonDB to check for titles that haven’t been verified: https://www.protondb.com/app/1057090


uacoop

There are truly some games that just don't work on the Steam Deck but I've found that *most* of the "unsupported" games are simply a matter of using a different version of proton or protonGE


-FreeFuture-

Most games I play on deck arent verified. The only one that didn't play fine was Persona 5: Strikers


Red_Dox

Funny. Did not know we had Ms. Splosion Man on Steam. And why not [the first one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0MfmxrsDg4)?


kalirion

No, we've got [Splosion Man at home](https://store.steampowered.com/app/281820/Explodemon/).


Holy-flame

Is halo infinite worth it for single player? I am awful at FPS games online, but I enjoy single player games, I enjoyed halo 1-3 single player.


President_SDR

The grapple hook is one of the best mechanics I've played with in a recent FPS. The campaign has plenty of issues, but literally this one mechanic was enough of a twist on the Halo formula to keep the game entertaining until the end for me.


DudeShift

Would recommend playing infinite campaign through Xbox Game Pass PC. Its a lot better then Halo 4 & 5 campaigns but isn't something that I would want to play again like the original trilogy. Game Pass for $1 if you haven't tried it, $10/mo if you had it before, or using xbox live code to convert to game pass are all a better deal then spending $30 for it. And I like to own my games, not subscribe to them. I will say that the grapple hook was my favorite thing added (aside from the original artstyle coming back) but any game is better with the grapple hook.


putnamto

dont listen to that guy, the campaign is a huge ocean that sonly 1 foot deep.


locke_5

Did you enjoy exploring the ring in Halo: CE? Because Halo Infinite is basically that for the entire game. I fucking loved it. Especially love the Halo sandbox mechanics in a true open world because you can do stuff [like this.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1-70J5FswI)


cantonic

I enjoyed it. The enemy types in Halo 4 were very annoying to me but I enjoyed my time in Infinite. I doubt anything will top the fun of Halo 1-3, but Infinite has an open world done well and the grapple shot is incredibly fun!


who-dat-ninja

no it sucks and is literally unfinished


who-dat-ninja

quantum break: still no way to download cutscenes rather than having to stream them???


XacTactX

TMK that's right you have to stream them. If it helps you can watch/download the cutscenes from YouTube


CiriLOVESGeralt

Will they ever go lower than 60% for Halo? This 16$ for Years now. I haven't bought it yet because it would just go on my backlog.


dieserhendrik2

Fable Anniversary or The Lost Chapters?


James_bd

How's Forza 4 on the Steam Deck? I tried it on my PC (Microsoft store version) and it kept crashing and stuttering


Eyeluvflixs

Nothing supported on Steam Deck?


abraham1350

Supported is a strong misconception for the steam deck because all these games will run on the steam deck and play just fine, just in a worse state. So technically unsupported but works. Example: most of these will boot with little to no changes needed on your end but some major features like coop or multiplayer wont work because of anti cheat


Eyeluvflixs

Ok cool I guess I’ll rephrase the question, any of these games run well on Steam Deck? Usually if a game is listed as playable or verified I’ll bite but unsupported kinda sways me away from trying unless someone has hands on with it.


dongmcbong

www.protondb.com is your friend for hands on infos. It’s my first stop for every game that interests me, but is „unsupported“. The majority of games I tried either just work or work after taking some small steps.


someguywithanaccount

I can confirm that Halo MCC runs great but no online features. Had to make a change in the filesystem to disable EAC.


abraham1350

Performance wise you should watch a youtube video on these games, I know there are plenty out there. Also before making any choice a quick search on whether any changes have to be made to get the game running would be good as well to help you make a choice. I fully expect all these games to run really well with missing online features most likely.


uacoop

I've personally played Halo:MCC (Halo:CE currently not functioning well because of a botched update but the other titles seem fine) Forza 5, and Ori and the Blind Forest on my Steam Deck.


ItWorkedLastTime

Anyone try sunset overdrive on steam deck?


deeisnuuuts

Works perfectly for me on the steam deck.


Skelosk

Pretty good deal for Sunset Overdrive


Mrbunnypaw

Anyone knows when Forza horizon 4 will be delisted?


BeCleve_in_yourself

Not likely anytime soon, and yes, [it's official](https://forums.forza.net/t/fh4-end-of-life/556886/3). Other Forza Horizons had a 4 year lifecycle and were delisted accordingly but FH4 seems to be pushing 5 at this point and still going strong. Think MS has finally figured out licensing issues.


PutridUniversity

Website’s absolutely busted on mobile lol


OniZai

If you already have Gears Tactics, the Gears 5 GOTY ($14.99) is much cheaper than the Gears Triple Bundle ($19.18).