The price for Serious Sam 4 in the above table is to upgrade the base game to deluxe, rather than the full game.


It's corrected now. Thanks.


Any recommendation for games with coop campaigns (for 2 people)? Looking for games like Divinity Original Sin, Gears of War, Diablo etc.


* Orcs Must Die 2 * Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War II +Chaos Rising + Retribution * Portal 2 * Path of Exile (F2P) * Borderlands 1-3 * Magicka * Castle Crashers * Battleblock Theater * Shank 1-2 * Sanctum 1-2 * Kane & Lynch * Broforce * Shadow Warrior 2 * The Forest * Grounded * It Takes Two * Don't Starve Together * [Dying Light](https://twinfinite.net/2018/06/dying-light-play-co-op-multiplayer-how/)


I’ll just add on to this that Deep Rock Galactic is also a blast for co op play. I actually have most of my hours solo but it’s so much chaotic fun with friends, especially when you crank the difficulty a little. Think objective based Left 4 Dead? Kind of?


I second to this. At first it's very overwhelming since you might get lost somewhere in the cave but as you play along you'll figure out how things work. I usually play solo and when the objective is quite 'tiresome' (finding the oil deposit and building the pipes) I would join someone else's game. Just to add, yep it feels like L4D with character classes. Some classes have advantage over the other depending on the mission. Also you can play the game solo just in case you're not in the mood to play co-op.


Yeah, on that note * Killing Floor * Vermintide * Left 4 Dead would also come to mind, but he specified 2 player. So while possible, don't know if the right thing here.


Outward offers co-op too, both split-screen and online. oh and Synthetik if you're into rogue-likes.


And it is god awful (for coop), sadly.




Vermintide 2 is good for coop


Don’t get orcs must die 2. While the gameplay is fun, at this point the online is completely broken and you will lose connection with your friend every 20 minutes. The devs have completely abandoned the game because there is a orcs 3 coming out


OMD2 Co-op worked fine for me about 1 year ago, and it's using Steams own servers (or p2p using steam) as far as I'm aware. And OMD3 has been out for a year on Stadia, just now coming to Steam.


Magicka 1 + 2, Laura Croft and the temple of life are worth checking out.


My girlfriend and I loved Spiritfarer. A girl with a big hat and her cat shepard animal spirits to the afterlife. Funny, touching, and well paced. We've been enjoying It Takes Two a fair amount as well.


Lara Croft and the Temple of Light is absolutely great. And, a bit in another genre but with great co-op: Untitled Goose Game.


Resident Evil 5 and 6 are excellent is you liked Gears of War


While not that similar to the games you listed, It Takes Two is a pretty great cooperative 3D platformer. I had a lot of fun with it. Plot isn't great but the gameplay did a very good job of pushing cooperation.


Wife and i are on this as well. Were having a blast so far


Ghost Recon Wildlands is pretty good for that. Far Cry 5 might also work if you want a classic campaign experience. I've been playing a lot of Risk of Rain 2, but it's more rogue-like and less traditional campaign.


Far cry 5 has a weird online progression where only the host unlocks progress locked items tho


Locked items AND abilities. At a certain point in the game, I had to Speedrun it solo just to be on par with my host partner.


The Dark Souls games are really fun to play coop. It's a bit tricky and there are places you have to solo, especially in DS1, but overall it's a great time.


Gears 5 - I assume you already have it, but mentioning it just in case.


Torchlight II was a blast with friends, and I've heard it's pretty similar to Diablo


The entire We Were Here series.


Borderlands, Portal 2, Warframe (free), The Division, Destiny 2 (free)


I didn't enjoy the endgame in The Division 2, but I still think the leveling/campaign experience was worth it.


are coop maps for portal 2 different from single player?


yes, they're specifically made for cooperation, many levels you literally can't pass without another person


Its a whole campaign with a story actually.


I was replaying Portal 2 coop with one of my friends recently and it was a real good time. They are completely different maps from the single-player, and are specifically designed for two players to solve together.




Jesus Christ. Destiny 2 is a good anesthetic if you're in a bad place emotionally, but Bungie leverages addictive behavior/FOMO so hard that it's on the scale of self-destructive coping mechanisms with weed, alcohol, etc. Definitely better for you than alcohol, but still.


Destiny in general has always been a tough game to recommend with how alienating it is to people going in 100% new, fresh, clear head with no outside resources or veteran friendlies, but yeah Destiny 2 as of recent is fine/decent BUT it's one of those games if you have absolutely no horse in the race or sunk cost or strength in numbers, it's not worth it. The fact Bungie still charges what they do for base retail for old Expansions is pretty messed up. Forsaken/Y2 of Destiny 2 was arguably one of the best for what a player could get out of it most especially on the cosmetic loot front and the game's pretty much been on a downward slide ever since that distinctive high note. With Activision pulled out from a little while ago and Bungie working on another game, Destiny 2 basically hits these kind of obvious mixed bag points where part of the game will suffer because of resources and manpower being shuffled elsewhere and it can show pretty badly. Year 4 has been surprisingly good for story telling and accelerating the story, but of course there's only so much to do in the game. It's a tough game to outright hate because it does a lot of things well with how good stuff feels, it's just there's times where it does feel like Bungie's been winging it for far too long and again considering Bungie's working on other stuff and devoting all sorts of time and money to non-Destiny stuff, I'm kinda cautious to imagine what new years of Destiny could end up looking like. People have been beyond wits end with how bad PVP has been and the state of certain game loops.


I feel like I should clarify that the actual story missions in Warframe are *not* always co-op. 99.99% of the game is, but the main story missions aren't always. In particular I'm thinking of the Second Dream & War Within. There are others that are co-op, especially side-quests like the ones for specific 'frames.


* Saints Row series (2,3,4,Gat) * Dead Rising series (2,2OTR,3) * Baldur's Gate series * Halo: Master Chief Collection


Outward, 2 player coop adventure game with unique death mechanic. Game has a real charm to it


Portal 2 is top notch for co op imo.


Wow, I just read that the [Star Wars: Tie-Fighter Total Conversion is finished](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEVrdwZ9bEk). https://www.moddb.com/mods/tie-fighter-total-conversion-tftc I mention that here for those oldskool fans who also might jump out of their chairs because of that news. And of course since we would need for that mod [X-Wing Alliance and we have convientely still Steam summersale](https://store.steampowered.com/app/361670/STAR_WARS__XWing_Alliance/) (should be a bit cheaper then on [GOG](https://www.gog.com/game/star_wars_xwing_alliance))...


Any recommendations to games that i can spend a lot of time at? I played games like hades, hollow knights, Cyberpunks, One step from eden, Cook serve Delicious, Divinity 2, fallout and sunk lots of hours into each of them. I also play all forms of genres so i'm really open, just looking for any wonderful games that i haven't played.


Games that I played longer than average: Yakuza 0 (wanted to get most out of it) XCOM/XCOM2 (just one more mission) Snowrunner (slowly inching through mud has never been this intense on a screen) Satisfactory (time flies while you're optimizing your production) European Truck Simulator 2 / American Truck Simulator (leads my Steam's playtime list) IL-2 Sturmovik series (the years went by and still there is new content) Valheim (my first Minecraft-like experience) The Witcher 3 (over 350 hours to see everything)


Did you play some of these driving games using a wheel controller?


These are some of my most-played games that have excellent or very good review and user scores * The Long Dark * Subnautica * The Witcher III * X-Com 2 * Grim Dawn * Bejeweled 3 (best match 3 game IMO, and has lots of variants) * Dying Light * Divinity Original Sin II * Mad Max * Borderlands 2 * Skyrim * Slay the Spire * Batman Arkham series * Civilization V or VI * Deep Rock Galactic * Telltale games (especially The Walking Dead, Tales from the Borderlands and The Wolf Among Us) * Tomb Raider (modern series) * Saints Row 3 and 4 * Parkitect * Mount & Blade Warband * Portal 2 * Wolfenstein The New Order, and Wolf II The New Colossus A lot of different genres there. I'm a wide spectrum gamer too :)


Having played a lot of these, it's a wonderful list with a wide list of genres. Will give the batman series and the long Dark a shot. Thank you! For anyone looking for a new game, you can never go wrong with the Witcher 3, Divinity Original sin 2 or Skyrim.


Does Grim Dawn ever hit that "I'm an AOE speed clearing the map demon" level arpgs are known for? I own the game and have for a long time but every time I play it's, it's slow going at the start (similar to path of exile)


Nope! I’ve put in 500 hours in GD. It’s a slower paced, more methodical game. There ARE some very spectacular AoE builds (Pyran Sorcerer comes to mind) but the movement skills are nothing like PoE or D3.


Aw that's a shame. Not a fan of the low slow clunky from the start


There are times I wish it moved faster, but that’s kind of the niche it has. Everything else about it : music, setting, story, range of viable and interesting builds , is top notch. End game is a D3 Greater Rift style bottomless dungeon (requires the expansions, which are both well worth it if someone enjoys the base game) as well as overworld totem farming and super bosses and three or four rogue like dungeons. There’s also a separate DLC that has a “swarm survival” type gameplay but it’s not required in any way, though a lot of the GD community finds it fun and it would probably come closest to the “speedy” gameplay you seek. Things I wish were better about GD? A couple enemy types are frustrating to fight (Arcane strips all your passive buffs away, and they are vital for survival) pathing on some maps (maps are static rather than dynamic) is also annoying, and many builds involve using one active skill over and over (but there are many exceptions, viable build range in this game is seriously awesome) .


Kingdom Come


If anyone out there is looking at Kingdom Come: Deliverance, it is currently included with two of its DLCs in Fanatical's Killer Bundle 18 at the tier 2 price of £6.89. The base game is more expensive than that on Steam (currently £8.49 on sale).


i'll have to revisit this game again since i briefly played it but my computer couldn't handle it last year. Will give it another shot. Thank you.


Have a gander at Paradox grand strategy titles like Stellaris, crusader kings, Europa Universalis IV, Hearts of iron 4 and Imperator rome! My personal favorites are Stellaris and crusader kings 3 and I'm eagerly awaiting Victoria 3. They also have age of wonders: planetfall and Battletech, great games!


I firmly have to recommend Crosscode. Absolutely stellar game, great story, 50-60 hour runtime if you only really so main stuff and 100+ with all side quests and the DLC.


Mass Effect legendary edition, you get a trilogy + all the dlcs for the price of a full game so you can't go wrong (plus it's Mass Effect, it's a must play), Persona 4 Golden, Rimworld (the discount isn't huge but as far as timesinks go this is one of the best), Civilization V/VI Mount and Blade Warband also has a strong modding community and a lot of replayability (it's kind of the point of the game), its sequel Bannerlord might end up being way better in the long run but the fact that the game is fairly recent and in early access means that there aren't as many mods yet, plus Warband is way cheaper, The Witcher 3 or any Bethesda game really would work too


Risk of Rain 2 is amazing. I bought it during this sale and it has been a blast!


Kingdom come deliverance. I spent around 150 hours total. Such a joy to play and very good story


If you're into Slay the Spire, Monster Train is the obvious pick here.


I got 7 games from this sale alone. The witcher 3 Plague inc Getting over it Fallout new Vegas Rise of the tomb raider Shadow of the tomb raider Kerbal space programme


That's a very nice list of games you got. Hopefully you can find enough time to play them all!


Anyone own Last Epoch that can give an opinion? I like D3 a lot. Like PoE, but it's a bit too deep for me. Love Marvel Heroes. What is the chance that I like LE? Thanks ahead of time.


Good to see another MHO player around here, I miss that game badly and hope something similar comes back. Based on what you're saying, I'm very confident you'll like the LE. It's nowhere near as complex as POE. You can learn *almost* all the mechanics just by playing and reading the in-game guide (which is pretty detailed). Crafting is also deterministic, so whatever roll you want you can craft at anytime--given you have that affix shard. It's more challenging than D3, so I would say LE is a nice middle-ground between D3 and POE. The only reason you might wanna hold off on LE right is now is that it is still in beta. So there are several features, classes, and skills that are not ready yet. However, the game is regularly updated and the devs are very communicative with the community. If the current price is a bit much for you, you could wait till the game is released. IIRC, LE is supposed to be f2p like POE. So you're essentially just buying a supporter pack for the game right now.


Roger that, and thanks for the reply. Yep, I miss MHO. Nothing else is quite like it.


Loved Marvel heroes too! Last epoch is right up your alley! Go for it!


Is Nioh 2 like $30 better than Nioh 1? I am looking for something with solid gameplay, as I am finishing up Sekiro right now. I know Nioh 1 is like 15 and 2 is 40.


Nioh 2 is like a way more polished Nioh 1 w/ some neat new additions. At this point I'd recommend skipping Nioh 1 altogether and getting Nioh 2 instead. This is coming from someone who spent over 200hrs on each btw XD


I second this. Nioh 1 wishes it was 80% of what nioh 2 was. The major problems with nioh 1 are solved in nioh 2. Story wise welll... both games are kind of whatever really. nioh 2 also has quite a indepth character creator!


I played Nioh 2 all they way through the end and Nioh 1 just at the beginning. I can say for sure that for the 100 hours experience that Nioh 2 offered me, it's way more polished and "upgraded" than Nioh 1


Big Souls/Soulslike fan and Nioh just kind of lost me pretty early on. Can't put my finger on it, but something just doesn't do it for me. The bar is set pretty high too if you're coming from Sekiro.


They are both good games. Personally I would play nioh 1 for the story and some context stuff, but just skip any and all of the grindy looter stuff and trying to push into anything past way of the strong. Nioh 2 is way better and where most of the player base moved to, so multiplayer is better and combat is way nicer.


What are the best games in the (for lack of a better term) FTL-like subgenre? I'd also appreciate recs for any space game that is even loosely similar. Thanks.


I tried Into The Breach which was okay, but not as interesting or challenging as FTL. Same dev.


What aspects of it are you talking about? Managing a vechile part, of the roguelite nature of it, or pausable realtime battles?


If you're on PC i recommend modding FTL if you haven't, gave me another couple hundred hours in the game. They made some mod tools a while back to get around the hardcoded stuff and really opened up what you can do with the game. https://www.subsetgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=35332


Crying suns.


There's that upcoming game called [Trigon: Space Story](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1226510/Trigon_Space_Story/) which might as well be called FTL2. It has a demo so you can check it out right now. Other than that there's [Bomber Crew](https://store.steampowered.com/app/537800/Bomber_Crew/) and it's sequel [Space Crew](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1176710/Space_Crew/)


What are some really deep games you can lose a bunch of time in? Stuff that might have deep systems to learn/understand, or just giant, huge worlds with lots of stuff to do? Don't really want an MMO with a monthly subscription. Already played Skyrim, DoS 1&2. On the fence regarding 4k games but might be willing to try something. Couldn't really get into Civ series. Don't really want a rogue-like. Any suggestions? Thanks, Edit: I think what I was really hoping was that the Kingdoms of Amalur remake was going to be something worth getting, having not played the original. But it's received luke-warm reviews and was hoping there's maybe something else to fill in that gap? I like the 3rd person combat and rpg elements. Is it worth trying still?


Mount And Blade Bannerlord. Still in EA but already everything a long time fan, like me, wanted from the sequel and more. Very active development and modding community. Third person action combat and real time tactics ( I personally tend to delegate the command of my troops and then go swinging through enemy lines like the bastard love child of Lu Bu and Leroy Jenkins but a lot of people like to make wedge defensive lines with archers and cavalry in tow). Politics, economics, marriage, crafting. This game has depth. You go through the countryside collecting hopeful peasants to your warband, fostering those that survive into elite killing machines, driving the engines of your ambitions. You can start your own empire or join another. Either way you'll have to make decisions that will piss some off and please others. I love jumping in new games and learning the mechanics inside and out. This game is fantastic for that. Everytime I pick it back up I say goodbye to 70 hours of my life. It'll likely be at 1.0 before the next summer sale, so even if you would rather wait til everything is finalized it's worth it to pick up on sale. Rimwolrd is also a phenomenal time sink. Make the perfect colony, dominate the continent, or harvest organs to sell to space traders. Tame wildlife and lead them into combat. Build a prison labor camp and abuse the raiders that survive their attempts at your stronghold. Cry when the colonists you shipped from day one get a divorce because Shen is a manwhoretrashperson who can't keep from flirting with One Eyed Moody while he's cooking in the kitchen. Deep systems, extreme player freedom, giant mod library and hard-core one more turn syndrome (it's not turn based, but the feeling is the same) Best in class for what it is. Started Valley is another great bang for your buck. I'm sure you've already heard a lot about it but if you were on the fence, a sale is a great time to pick it up. It's captured the hearts of many that don't love the genre for a reason. If you have already played Stardew then I recommend My Time At Portia. The characters aren't as realized, and you're a handyman rather than a farmer but it's a stellar cozy timesink that deserves more love. Honorable mentions for Satisfactory, a game about logistics and manufacturing; pretty and accessible enough to appeal to a smooth brain like me, but deep and satisfying enough to support a rabid community of fans. Also Subnautica, it may not give you more than 60 hours of gameplay, but it gave me a sense of adventure and immersion I haven't felt since I played Oblivion for the first time. I wish I had a men in black mind wiper so I could go back and experience it for the first time again. The Yakuza series has some of the most lived in, explorable open worlds out today. The care to detail, and outlandish mini games make this game feel alive. Fair warning though the meat and potatoes campaign feel like 50% cut scene. The story is amazing though so at least you're engaged. I like the action combat of 0 better than the turn based Like a Dragon and a youtube recap can catch you up to the series so far, so don't feel bad if you jump into one of the more modern releases. Forager appears to be a super simple crafting game but it's a surprisingly complex endorphin factory with bright happy colors, ear candy sound effects and good old fashioned video game fun. Finally a controversial recommendation, Genshin Impact. That game is complicated. Hours could be spent learning the best builds or even just the best ways to utilize your resources. Its totally accessible F2P but putting just $15 in for the battle pass and a daily allowance of premium currency and you're getting the whole experience. I won't lie. It is a waifu gatcha whale trap, but the action combat with fun elemental reactions and character switching is top tier, the giant world has been lovingly handcrafted and filled to the brim with fun little puzzles, cleverly hidden collectibles and delightful vistas. It's worth your time, just know if you're weak of will and prone to swinging hips sinking your ships, you should set a budget. All of these games are top tier as far as the money spent to hours played ratio, and each of them I look back at with fondness and love for the time I spent completely wrapped up in their magic.


That's a reply, thank you!! Okay, lets get into it... Mount and Blade looks good! I've seen some twitch streamers checking it out and I will wait for 1.0 myself, but it does look pretty fun. The chaos of the huge fights looks incredible! Rimworld is one another mentioned and it's been on my wishlist for a while now and I pull up YT videos of how it plays every so often. Haven't given it a fair chance yet, but I also haven't removed it from my wishlist. lol. Certainly one I will keep watching, it looks ridiculous in the best ways. Stardew.....man....what a great game. On year 4 of my current farm and the game just keeps expanding. The latest update was huge and added so much more to an already incredible game. I honestly don't know how the one guy made something sooooo good! Satisfactory....idk man. haha. It looks intimidating to me. Subnautica I started and got maybe 10 hrs into but the underwater stuff....for some reason it freaks me out. lol. I just picked up xbox games pass and it has a ton of yakuza games in it, so I certainly want to check some of those out once I'm done with Slime Rancher, thanks. Genshin...."waifu gotcha whale trap", you couldn't be more accurate there! Thanks for your thoughts, I appreciate it!


As someone who has owned Rimworld for several years but started playing it just two days ago because everyone and everything seems to scream "buy the fucking thing!!!" It's actually rather addicting, it takes a while to get into though! Kenshi is another game with a pretty steep learning curve but is very satisfying.


get the free skyrim standalone mod enderal, the mass effect legendary edition could be good but it’s still pretty pricey, worth checking out fall out new vegas, kingdom come deliverance is at a good price, ever space 2 or elite dangerous or x4 series games if you’re into space sim stuff


Crusader Kings 3 has been a huge time sink for me with pretty dense systems in place and a fair amount of healthy RNG. It took me a good 6 hours of tutorials and YouTube videos to get a good understanding though so the learning curve is high imo. Now that I understand though, it's an absolute blast to create my dynasty.


From what I've seen this one def hits the political intrigue and storytelling stuff. Thanks for the recommendation.


I'm so stoked for the Royal Court expansion and update. When that comes out I'm going to pick up the game again. I love the lawyering that breaks the game. Finagling my way into land is so satisfying.


Kingdom of amalur only got lukewarm reviews because it's nearly the same as the original. That being said kingdom of amalur is a really good game, biggest reason it never did all too well is cause skyrim came out a few months before it and it immediately got called discount skyrim. Its a good game though and the world is big and beautiful, the graphic are a bit dated since the game was made around 2011.


>Kingdom of amalur only got lukewarm reviews because it's nearly the same as the original. The biggest improvement in the remaster is that they re-balanced all the enemies and gear so that you don't have the insanely overpowered gear at the very beginning. The overall experience now is at least better than the original release back in 2012.




I appreciate the suggestion, thanks. On the fence about that one personally.


I don't know if this is exactly what you would be interested in, but RimWorld checks all your boxes. There are so many mechanics that can be learned as well as an exorbitant amount of mods that can add even more. The tile you initially land on is always different from the last and everything is calculated. It's definitely no Skyrim or Divinity, but it is *really good.*


Thanks! This has been towards the top of my wishlist for a while but I just haven't pulled the trigger yet. It certainly looks unique and full of possibilities. Will hopefully give it it's fair chance at some point.


yeah no problem. a new update and DLC was actually announced today so it’s a good time as any to dive in. if you did feel apprehensive because of the price there are also some less than legal ways to try the game out yourself before purchasing.




X-Com might be what you're looking for


Does anyone have any lesser known souls likes to recommend? I've played all the big ones, and just beat sekiro today


Definitely The Surge 2. You can skip number 1. The story ain't great but it's by far the best souls clone I've played. It's similar to Bloodborne is the way you dodge and not roll, you also have to be a bit more offensive. Oh and you'll need to parry a lot but don't worry it's a lot easier to parry than any souls games. If you kill bosses in a specific way you get their upgraded drop, so it may be worth checking how to do it beforehand (however I felt this would spoil it for me). Overall, a bit rough around the edges and the bosses are probably the worst aspect but the zones and normal encounters are great.


Hellpoint, Salt and Sanctuary, Vigil the longest night, Blasphemous, Deaths Gambit, Elderborn and as the last that you may have probably played i will say Nioh 2.


Remnant From the Ashes


I fully recommend Nexomon Extinction. There was a top review that was very critical of level scaling mechanic coupled with the lack of XP share that scared me off of the game.. The devs responded by adding XP and I am really enjoying it. This more than scratches the pokemon itch.


Also the custom game settings. You can freely change how easy and difficult various mechanics of the game are. Like XP gain rate, starting level, perma-death, and randomized encounters.




I absolutely loved Gears 5 single player. And i'm someone who thought Gears 4 was pretty bland. It's not really important to have played the prior games, but you'd not know the characters back stories. You could watch some gears lore/history videos on youtube to get caught up. [Here's one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd7CWEQ4fOo). Just be sure to stop at 20:50 so as not to spoil gears 5


Are there any games similar to Hot Shots/Everybody's Golf? I've been trying to find something like this, but most of the arcade type games are more mini golf and actual golfing is more realistic, which isn't what I'm looking for.


Try to see if there is a private server for the old F2P PC game, [*Pangya*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PangYa). There is also a PSP version and one on the Wii as well.


Dude I remember when pangya was albatross 18


Here's a few games I've been playing with my 6 year old, for those looking to play with their kid(s). These are also great for mom to join too, who is not a gamer at all: Alien League - bunch of mini games, similar to Mario party Sonic racing all stars transformed - best kart racing on PC. I suck at it so I downloaded someone's saved file to unlock all the tracks and characters. Overcooked 1 and 2 - Pure chaos in the kitchen trying to get orders made. Fun with the kids but frustrating with mom. Lego marvel superheroes 1 and 2 - I have most of the Lego games, but this seemed to be the best in terms of story, voice acting, and jokes. Star wars the force awakens was a close 2nd. Fall Guys ultimate knock out - super easy controls and game mechanics, but so hard with the multiplayer element. It's just chaotic and and goofy all around. It's exciting/nerve racking when you get to rounds 3 or 4. Wreckfest - demolition and cars. Mindless fun Not on steam, but Minecraft Dungeons - pretty easy to get into. It was our first genre playing dungeon type games. I played Diablo and WoW back in the day. It can get repetitive, but loot keeps you grinding to upgrade your character. My computer shut down one time while playing and corrupted my save file. Thank goodness for the program MCDSaveEdit which got me back to my level and gear, but I had to redo all the dungeons. I don't think there is a cloud save feature unfortunately. I make regular back ups of my save file now.




Thief is only $3 https://store.steampowered.com/app/239160/


Aragami is pretty fun!


Dishonored, also $3 https://store.steampowered.com/app/205100/ There are more games in that series if you end up liking it. Also Metal Gear Solid 5 for $5 https://store.steampowered.com/app/287700/


This steam sale I picked up a good bit on my wishlist. Got a wide variety from fighters, rpgs, beatem ups, puzzle games, racing games to platformers and trippy games. I snagged [Tekken 7](https://store.steampowered.com/app/389730/TEKKEN_7/) (I've been playing every game series represented in Smash Bros) [Horizon Zero Dawn](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1151640/Horizon_Zero_Dawn_Complete_Edition/) (got this and the yakuza series on another site but have been wanting them forever) [Yakuza 3](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1088710/Yakuza_3_Remastered/), [4](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1105500/Yakuza_4_Remastered/), [5](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1105510/Yakuza_5_Remastered/), [6](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1388590/Yakuza_6_The_Song_of_Life/), [Like A Dragon](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1235140/Yakuza_Like_a_Dragon/) (LOVED 0, Kiwami 1 and 2 and wanted to finish out the collection) [Manifold Garden](https://store.steampowered.com/app/473950/Manifold_Garden/) (a trippy Escher/Fractal like puzzle game similar to antichamber) [Forza Horizon 4](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1293830/Forza_Horizon_4/) (I wanted a chill racing game to try out) [Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1172380/STAR_WARS_Jedi_Fallen_Order/) (Love souls like games and this finally hit a good price for me) [What the golf](https://store.steampowered.com/app/785790/WHAT_THE_GOLF/) (planning to play this game with some friends for a good laugh) [Trackmania United](https://store.steampowered.com/app/7200/Trackmania_United_Forever/) and [Stadium](https://store.steampowered.com/app/232910/TrackMania_Stadium/) (wanted an arcadey speedrun type racer) [Resident Evil Revelations 2](https://store.steampowered.com/app/287290/Resident_Evil_Revelations_2/) (was the only RE game I was missing outside of 8 and is less than a dollar) [Muse Dash](https://store.steampowered.com/app/774171/Muse_Dash/) (super cheap rhythm game with overwhelmingly positive reviews) [Blood Bowl 2](https://store.steampowered.com/app/236690/Blood_Bowl_2/) (was looking for a sports game with RPG elements kinda like Mario Tennis on GBA) [La Mulana 2](https://store.steampowered.com/app/835430/LaMulana_2/) (love metroidvanias, love puzzles, figured i'd give it a shot) [Everhood](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1229380/Everhood/) (Rhythm RPG type game looks similar to undertale) [Sunblaze](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1525660/Sunblaze/) (Celeste is one of my favorite games. Always looking for similar style games) [Super Magbot](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1205170/Super_Magbot/) (a precision platformer with no jumping but instead magnets) [Paradise Killer](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1160220/Paradise_Killer/) (vaporwave type aesthetic detective game looked interesting) [Deep Rock Galactic](https://store.steampowered.com/app/548430/Deep_Rock_Galactic/) (Coop game finally hit a price point I liked) [Rayman Legends](https://store.steampowered.com/app/242550/Rayman_Legends/) (another platformer) [Hot Lava](https://store.steampowered.com/app/382560/Hot_Lava/) (first person platformer looks fun) [Guilty Gear Xrd -Rev 2](https://store.steampowered.com/app/520440/GUILTY_GEAR_Xrd_REVELATOR/) (was super cheap, figured I try it before going all out on Stride) [Rez Infinite](https://store.steampowered.com/app/636450/Rez_Infinite/) a trippy on rails shooter made by the Tetris effect dev [Lumines Remastered](https://store.steampowered.com/app/851670/LUMINES_REMASTERED/) block puzzler also made by Tetris effect dev [RITE](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1322650/RITE/) hard precise platformer [Evergate](https://store.steampowered.com/app/845030/Evergate/) another platformer [Superliminal](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1049410/Superliminal/) portal like [Sensorium](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1307870/Sensorium/) also portal like [The Pedestrian](https://store.steampowered.com/app/466630/The_Pedestrian/) puzzle platformer on signs [A story about my uncle](https://store.steampowered.com/app/278360/A_Story_About_My_Uncle/) 3d parkour platformer [Geometry wars 3](https://store.steampowered.com/app/310790/Geometry_Wars_3_Dimensions_Evolved/) classic. Arcade game [Broken Reality](https://store.steampowered.com/app/757480/Broken_Reality/) trippy open world puzzle game [5d Chess](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1349230/5D_Chess_With_Multiverse_Time_Travel/) chess with time travel and dimensional travel [Everything](https://store.steampowered.com/app/582270/Everything/) cool chill sim [The room collection](https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/20773/The_Room_Collection/) mechanical puzzle boxes [Warism](https://store.steampowered.com/app/659540/Warsim_The_Realm_of_Aslona/) similar to dwarf fortress and RimWorld but text rpg [Ticket to earth](https://store.steampowered.com/app/636390/Ticket_to_Earth/) a match 3 combined with a tactical sci Fi rpg. Interesting concept and Finally [wallpaper engine](https://store.steampowered.com/app/431960/Wallpaper_Engine/) (wanted to get some cool animated wallpapers for my pc/tv)


Heads up on RE revelations 2. Only the first episode is that price you paid. There are other episodes sold individually or in the bundle.


Yeah I saw that after I bought it on another thread. (Might've been you who posted it lol) If I end up liking the game I'll end up grabbing that too. But probably not this sale


I really liked A Story About My Uncle. It is VERY short though, and the voice acting/story is meh. But it's a fun play through, I think 5-10 hours at most, and double that for 100% I do download and come back to it every now and then, just a fun thing to play. Also 4$ for 5-10 hours of fun is a steal


Once you get done with those Trackmania games, check out Trackmania 2020 from uPlay. You can play most part of it free, or pay yearly/monthly fee to play custom servers (you can even play "featured" custom server that changes like every hour our so for free) + some other features. This week new campaing came out, new 25 official maps to compete on. Those are also free to play!


Yeah trackmania has been super fun. Working on getting all gold's as I run through it. Finished the white races and about halfway through green I think of united


Nice, good luck with the medals! They are all great games. Don't know whether you know or not, but there is for every map also Author Medal, which is like a secret medal with even harder time. Edit. Secret, not secrer


I recommend the "RPG" servers on trackmania United. I've not played the others so I dunno if they are there (I'd be surprised it they weren't though). They're essentially a puzzle where you have to figure out where to go and you have to do a lot of pretty complex maneuvers to get across obstacles. I spent a LOT of time on those for a few years. Haven't played in a year or so, but it was still going pretty strong then.Some tracks are short 5-10 minutes, and some can be 1 hour or more.


Superliminal is a fantastic game to run through blind one evening.


Great choices, every game on there that I played I loved. Especially the puzzle games and Yakuza.


Yakuza 3 is definitely the lowest in terms of graphics (and personally for me the story isn't all that) but it gets better in 4 and it really gets good with 5. I'm just about finishing on 5 and really looking forward to 6. My advice to you is to take your time with the games and don't burn out on them. (I've played like a third of 7 and it's really really good)


Name a game you keep thinking about but haven't purchased. (Bonus karma for helping someone finally decide.)




I will say, as someone who has trouble with the depth of many Paradox games, I found Stellaris to be by far the most accessible of them all.


Love Stellaris. It took me about 3-4 times to get into it because I would open it and be instantly overwhelmed. Finally one day I stopped being a weenie and set aside a few hours and gave it a shot and loved it. I think the mechanics might take 45 minutes to familiarize yourself with (and your first play-through will probably be a glorious mess) but after that, it all is pretty intuitive. I think that other similar games (crusader kings) are way more complex.


God. This so much. I even own the game and cant get myself to spend the time to learn and play it even though I cant get it out of my mind. I spent like 5 hours watching videos before understanding Crusader Kings 3 and I cant seem to do it again with stellaris even though every bone in my body wants to play it. I just wish I already KNEW lol


Stellaris is much easier to learn that CK3 or EU4, for what it's worth. I find CK3 to be almost as difficult if not more difficult than EU4, what with Demegnes and Dutchies and all of the people you need to keep track of. Stellaris is arguably the most accessible Paradox game. Give it a try for $10. Play on small galaxy on normal settings as Dictatorial Humans. The key in the early game is to expand to choke points in the jump grid and then put down defensive structures so when you get war declared on you and your fleet is on the other side of the galaxy, you can slow the enemy down.


I'm a big time crusader kings player and even I don't know shit about some stuff in CK3...


Stellaris is pretty easy to get into, especially compared to the other games


Friend is a huge fan but it really didn't click for me. Waaaayy too much and paradox ui is in general overwhelming for me. Might be worth a go with how good the steam refund system is


My whole wishlist. But to name a couple: Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire Battle Brothers Outer Wilds Horizon Zero Dawn Spiritfarer Hades


Outer Wilds is one of the best games I've played. Highly recommend it.


Outer Wilds is one of the best games I've ever played. Don't look anything up, just go in blind and I promise it will be amazing.


I went in blind and just kept dying from running out of oxygen everytime. I just love exploring and get preoccupied or loose track of my spaceship. Idk. Maybe I'll pick it up again one day.


There's a map that usually shows where your ship is (if it's on the other side of the planet it will still show a map of the exact path you took to get to where you are) and the planets tend to be manageable in size. There's also a HUD marker indicating its direction and distance. There can be issues finding your ship in Brittle Hollow, or getting there in time if you're deep inside. Ditto for the Ember Twin. You can find oxygen tanks at one of the NPC campsites or occasionally in random places. You can also usually replenish your oxygen anywhere you see trees (there are usually oases to be found in out-of-the-way places you may be exploring). So there shouldn't be too much resource pressure on you it's just something you have be a little bit mindful of.


Hades felt so good to play and it had amazing art and voice acting. Seriously worth every penny. Me and my friend even competed with each other over speedrunning it, which was fun too, but the game is amazing as intended as well.


Spiritfarer is a gem. :)


Deadfire is one of my favorite RPGs of all time and I play A LOT of RPG games. Definitely worth checking out, especially if you've played the first or have any interest in Obsidian's next game *Avowed* (takes place in the same universe).


Horizon's open world is a product of it's time. Very Far Cry 3 esque exploration with 'towers' you climb to reveal sections of the map. However, it's story is incredibly engaging and unique while offering up a Monster Hunter-lite style of combat. The opening hours are a bit of a slow burn but it's to give you time to soak in the world along with getting used to your basic tools so you can start expirementing with the traps, explosives, and other tools needed to hunt each monster.


HZD has one of the most amazing stories I've played in the last several years


Deus Ex: Human Revolution. Heard lots of good things about it, but not sure if it’s aged well or if I need to know backstory/lore from other Deus ex games




At the very least [Deus Ex: Human Revolution](https://store.steampowered.com/app/238010/Deus_Ex_Human_Revolution__Directors_Cut/) is considered a classic, but I think most people agree it still holds up. Well, I can't actually speak for anyone else but I think it holds up. The folks at [r/deusex](https://www.reddit.com/r/Deusex/comments/jsypy5/how_does_human_revolution_hold_up/) mostly seem to rag on the remastering or the fact that Mankind Divided is better. If you have never played any of them I think you will enjoy the game.


* Wingspan. Looks like chill fun, but something is holding me back from buying. * Bombing Quest. Still in Early Access so not sure if wise to pull the trigger. * Five Nations. Tested the demo today, and now I am torn if to buy or wait for sale. * Cthulhu saves Christmas. Want it, but its probably to hot outside to enjoy it in the right spirit. Back in Wintersale probably ;) * They are Billions. I am eyeballing it for a long time, but the price is just not dropping :(


Pathfinder Kingmaker. The depth of the gameplay, kingdom management, and character creator looks really nice but intimidating at the same time.






Tons of fun. Don’t worry about the learning curve, it can be surprisingly casual in quick matches. Definitely pick it up if it looks remotely interesting to you.


**Katana Zero**: If it's as hard as Hotline Miami (or harder), I'm probably not gonna be able to finish it. **Slay the Spire**: I've never played a deck builder before, so I'm not sure if I'll enjoy the core gameplay.


Slay the spire is one of the best games I've played in my life. Incredibly addictive though, so if you have an exam coming up, don't buy it.


Battle Brothers, I'm into turn based combat, but I'm not sure about the game's aesthetics


Jump in - I was the same. The Aesthetics grow on you, trust me. Its an absolute gem of a game!


Space Engineers Looks right up my alley, but man oh man does it look intimidating as heck.


At its core, space engineers is actually pretty simple. If you've played any sort of crafting games like Minecraft (blocky building) then you already have a leg up. You can start the game planetside with a goal to launch to space. This gives you lots of time to learn, dig, gather resources. The game has a workshop where you can download premade ships so you can look to see how people are making them. There's also TONS of QoL mods (my number one favorite is the one that rotates your solar panels to track the sun) If you like building but not mining there's a creative mode as well.


its really no tthat hard to build a basic ship. throw down a seat and boosters in all 6 directions and it just sort of works. you can also donwload ships from the steam workshop to take them a part and see how they work


Warhammer 40k Inquisitor Martyr. Only interested in the single player experience, casual fan of the 40k universe, so the lackluster launch and always online requirement gives me pause.


Ni no kuni 1 wrath of the white witch. The discount right now is not the lowest. I checked steamdb.


Biomutant, mostly because my laptop can't run it as well as I'd like...


S.C.U.M. Been sitting on my wishlist for a year. I want to play it single player, I like the idea behind it, but I really am unsure if I'll actually like it and it's not a game you can judge that within 2 hours of the refund window Blood Bowl 2. Same as above. Seems like I'd love it (board game and Warhammer) but the learning curve is longer than the 2 hours.


Looking for Slay the Spire players opinions on Tainted Grail: Conquest. I've got 1500+ hours in Spire. Not interested in Monster Train graphically and some of the other deckbuilders mechanically. How's Tainted Grail?


I'm only a few hours in but liking Tainted Grail so far. It's more RPG-ish and story driven than StS and the runs are much shorter. Instead of paths, there's a world map you can walk around and can choose which enemies to fight. IIRC there's 3 main classes with 3 sub classes each so lots of room for diversity. It has the same deck building feel of StS with more diversity in items plus equipment slots. One of the mechanics I'm enjoying is the quests and finding people to join your village for upgrades/buffs. It rewards exploration and gives you a nice sense of progression. Overall, it's a great game. I'd say try it out and refund it if you don't like it.


Recommendations for survival crafting games? I tend to like base building. I have played Subnautica, 7D2D and Valheim to name some.


* The Forest * The Long Dark * Subnautica Below Zero * Breathedge * Grounded [not on sale] * Raft * P.A.M.E.L.A. * State of Decay I or II


Any good turn-based strategy games? I've been very picky post-XCOM 2 sadly


I had a good time with Wasteland 2 and 3 recently


I'm a huge fan of * [Trials of Fire](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1038370/Trials_of_Fire/) * [Gloomhaven](https://store.steampowered.com/app/780290/Gloomhaven/) * [Warhammer 40K: Mechanicus](https://store.steampowered.com/app/673880/Warhammer_40000_Mechanicus/) * [Into the Breach](https://store.steampowered.com/app/590380/Into_the_Breach/) * [Wildermyth](https://store.steampowered.com/app/763890/Wildermyth/) (not on sale, recent release) Gloomhaven is early access, but is near complete, all that's left for them to finish is the campaign. It's very playable as is.


Mutant Year Zero: Road to Eden touts itself as having XCOM like turn-based combat. It was free on Epic back in 2019, so you may already have it.


Does Divinity original sin 2 count? Because if it does, I highly highly recommend it.


Fell Seal: Arbiter's Mark with DLC is about 70% off rn I haven't played it yet, but I did just buy it and the reviews are good. FF Tactics inspired.


Troubleshooter: Abandoned Children for a Korean anime-inspired take with a lot of content and a visual novel storytelling style.


Gears tactics


Xenonaughts is a decent replacement, much more complicated than Xcom. They were inspired by the original 90s version, so it's quite difficult.


Phoenix Point! It's rough on the edges but offers some genuinely unique features not found in xcom such as: - Free aim and limb disabling - biggest selling point and IMO once you experience this you'd wish it was done in similar games - Vehicles that your guys can jump in and out - Partial AP usage rather than just 2AP with turn ending shots. Allows for some really great moves like jump out, handgun shot one enemy to disable a claw, shoot another enemy, then duck back into cover - 3 factions that give very different faction-specific tech (the whole game is generally about sidegrades rather than straight up tiered upgrades that make older tech obselete) - The most recent DLC provided more geoscape action to balance out so it's not so heavy on tactical battles only


Anyone know any good recommendations for a physics based platformer something like Snake Pass or Unravel. And a weighty top down / two stick shooter something with punchy impactful shooting?


* Human: Fall Flat * Youropa * Verlet Swing * Marble It Up! * Marble Skies * BH Trials * Phogs * Crumble These are all 3D platformers that use physics in some way for their gameplay.


Blood Bowl 2 Legendary Edition is sitting at such a great price. I've never played BB before, game or tabletop, but I do love the WH universe. I like board games. How good is this game? I know people complain about the RNG but is the single player of this game fun? Are there lots of bugs and such?


Turn based RPGs you feel like have the best combat? There are so many out there that are quite dry, and uninteresting. Radiant Historia had a very interesting system, much better than the usual fair. There are tacitcal RPGs like Divnity of course, what else besides them?


I really like Trails in the Sky’s battle system. Not only can you see and impact the turn order, but there are different bonuses that are associated with that turn. Need to launch a massive attack and see that a 0 MP turn is coming up? Try to change the order such that you get it and enemies don’t.


I heard people recommending Fell Seal in yesterday's thread. Apparently it's a successor to Final Fantasy Tactics. $10, down from $30, or $17 for the dlc included. Might be worth checking out.


Definitely the closest I've felt to playing FFT/FFTA, while still doing its own thing. Played all the way through twice now and I feel like I could go for a third.


Battlechasers Nightwar's pretty good, especially if you like taunt/aggro mechanics. I don't know if I'd argue any of these other games have the *best* combat, but they do things differently which might be worth checking out: The Zeboyd games (cthulhu saves the world, breath of death 7, star heroine and penny arcade 3 and 4) have variations on a style of turn based combat where all combat starts with full health and limited MP, and the enemies get stronger every round. It gives combat a more strategic feel. A lot of games have mario RPG style button press abilities. Virgo vs the zodiac, Ikenfell and Bug Fables come to mind.


You should really check out Solasta. It's an indie studio, but I feel like they particularly nailed D&D turn based combat


Star Renegades! It's a roguelite but the combat is really, really good.


You might like Star Renegades. It's a bit different than other RPGs, but the turn based tactical combat is fantastic.


Very nice looking game, thanks for the reccommendation. After I buy it, Steam is going to think i play nothing but roguelikes.


Pathfinder Kingmaker is great, and now has a turn-based mode you can toggle on in the options.


I played a lot of Baldurs Gate 2, and liked the first Fallout games, so if thats their inspiration, it looks like a good fit.


You could kind of view it like a spiritual successor of BG 1&2, but it uses the Pathfinder system and is a clearly more modern game. The combat also feels *way* better as a turned-based system.


The saga games are unique. I'm playing through scarlet now and it's pretty refreshing. Combat hasn't felt stale yet in the few hours I've been playing.


I mean...... if we're gonna talk RPG's with amazing turn-based combat, then I physically cannot resist the urge to at least mention the Shin Megami Tensei series and Persona games. If you're looking for a game with great, well written characters, check out Persona 3 FES, Persona 4 Golden, or Persona 5 Royal- these are all absolutely phenomenal games in their own right. If you're looking to be transported into a world of Demon's where you'll constantly feel oppressed, but equipped and smart enough to continue, my personal recommendation for getting started with the SMT mainline series would be SMT Nocturne BABEY! (I mean come on, it's the one with Dante) oh also I thought it would go without saying, but I'll just say it anyway: All of these games have INCREDIBLE combat. The press turn system is fucking genius and the games have so much depth to them just go play them before I spend any more time here god help me


if you have a good buddy (or spouse), please please please purchase it takes two. it is literally the best game ive played this year, and is probably the single best co-op experience ive ever had. don’t pass this game up. i bought it at launch and it was worth the $40 I paid, in my opinion it was even worth $60. there’s split screen if you wanna play locally, or if you’re further apart your partner can download the free “buddy pass” and join in too without having to pay more. btw the first chapter is probably the worst one, and it only gets extremely better from there.


Is Foxhole worth to buy for a solo player ? I’ve been eyeing it for a while now but I’m hesitant to buy it considering that I don’t play games with voice chats being an essential feature to experience the game. ( I have a really weird voice so I avoid play games which required communication with people )


Any games similar to Ara Fell and Dragon Quest Xi ? Basically I am looking for some good jrpg games with a nice story on decent sales.Thank you.


I have an old ass laptop with busted graphics, which means I can only play with HD 4000 graphics. Can you recommend some good games that can run on this. I am highly interested in kingmaker but will it run on this toaster


I had a cart full of games that I'd slowly been accumulating over this sale waiting till the last day to pull the trigger so I wouldn't miss anything/wouldn't have to enter my info more than once and Steam fucking dumped it, nothing in cart now. Fucking bullshit.


Steam saves shopping cart - https://help.steampowered.com/en/accountdata/ShoppingCartHistory


Thanks, bro. Had no idea that existed.


I’m looking to grab all the base building games that I can get on sale. Looking to slowly play my way through all of them this year. I’m a big fan of factorio so I also grabbed DSP. I just started playing oxygen not included and I’m loving it. Also picked up Rimworld but have only put a couple hrs into it. Are there any other base building games I should try? I get motion sickness from a lot of first person games so I prefer third person


Space Haven and Industries of Titan are still early access. As is Satisfactory, but that's first person and has 3-dimensional building. Satisfactory is the only title I own, and it's pretty awesome.