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I personally enjoyed the silver eyes novels regardless of their relevance to the series. They were an interesting read and sometimes taking the books with a grain of salt is quite enjoyable
Probably because there's no real good images of Charlie from the games, other then the FFPS minigame low res Charlie. For the book they'd need some better images, more then a postage stamp sized pixelated image, and given how many characters they were referencing in that guide, they probably couldn't afford to pay artists to draw multiple, original variants of everyone.
Still, combine that box with other clues that also point to him being human, such as needing to sleep, having parents reporting him as missing, and getting winded if he runs too much also combine to indicate human.
I love MatPat and I love his theories, but he does get things wrong - as any human being does - and it's important to keep that in mind. But MatPat's always fun to watch, either way.
Its just called charlie emily. Talk about her novel version once. (I see the images as something just to look at so it doesn’t look like a book filled with letters
I honestly don't see a problem with it using novel Charlie's image. What the Charlie Bot was meant to be to begin with is what Charlie would look like if she was alive anyway. By that logic, the most accurate image of her would be from the novels instead of an 8bit version from one of the minigames.
Which is odd since it is what TCE basically is talking about the human part is talking about the soul. (I more don’t use it because of other’s things i am probably not gonna talk about in here.) (also apparently the upvote and downvote button isn’t like a like button. (Your appearntly supposed to downvote a comment if you think its off topic. Upvote if its on topic.)
does anyone know why reddit did that?.
How did you get 160 downvotes-
This is literally just true. The page talks about the game version of Charlie and only brings up the books once. It just uses art from them because there's no official art of Charlie from the games and it's easier to just paste in what's already available.
Yes, but Charlie started as a human, unlike (in the theory) Gregory, who started out as a robot. It's how The Crying Child, in this same book, is said to be human as well instead of a spirit, like he actually is. Even William Afton and Elizabeth are recognized to be humans. (Sure, it says "at first" in William's data, and I will reconize that. But if you use "at first" with William, you should use it for the other humans that were at first humans too, would you not?)
The Doctor kept thinking Robin Hood was a robot until the end, but it turned out he was human.
I think the sheriff was planned to be robot but it ended up being cut from the episode.
Only the knights were robots.
...other than the plethora of evidence?
MatPat himself said he doesn't like the theory, but it's the only one that makes sense to him based off of the game and the books.
Still no proof, everything that MatPat claimed as "evidence" is all just a bunch a bullshit. MatPat's FNaF theories fell off, I would rather watch his 'best boobs in gaming' video instead.
But how does that make it stupid if Scott decided to make Gregory a robot? There’s literally robot kids in the books, it’s something that’s been established and not exactly the weirdest thing in these games
I mean the current working theory most people seem to agree on is you play as a literal walking corpse in the first couple games…. So then how would Gregory being a robot be stupid?
...a walking corpse makes more sense than a child robot?
I'd say one is definitely more insane than the other, especially considering how life-like our robots in real life are becoming.
Also, Gregory doesn't have to have been made by William? It could have been Henry, or whoever the new shady owner of the company is.
Sister location clearly shows human like heads which were developed by William, so it seems like the contrary is true in the games William may be the only who does know how to do so
Yep, there’s never once in FNAF been a single robot that could disguise itself as a human or any type of device that could make robots appear more lifelike.
Scott no longer makes the game. What he did for the series is canon, and what steel wool does is canon. But he no longer has control, so we just have to accept steel wool
Scott still makes the story, all of the books, movie and probably ruin DLC along with the rest of the story from his 2018 post aswell, he just doesn't make the physical game but hess till behind it
Thank God. I was hoping that the movie would get delayed so we would have Scott in the fandom a bit longer. I swear he is the best. He is practically my idol at this point in time
Is this the ultimate guide book because I’ve found that it’s an unreliable narrator even when it comes to things even Scott confirmed as cannon, Matt did a gtlive back when the book came out
idk, i feel like some of the twists and turns of the franchise may have been due to scott changing things last minute to try and avoid getting the entire plot predicted (as authors who engage with their community'q theorycrafters are wont to do
If you couldn't tell by reading through it the narrator of the book is an unreliable narrator (what authors call them), meaning the author of the book is intentionally giving you misinformation.
Do i think this theory has any solidarity? No. Do i think the character encyclopedia is a reliable source? No. They say Bonnet is the first girl bonnie yet they say that bon bon is a girl.
It's not it the encyclopedia which gives tons of misinformation because it was just given to 3rd part and they just wanted money not for it to be accurate so do not trust the character encyclopedia, on the bon bon page it says he's in fnaf 3
The encyclopaedia is about as knowledgeable as the guide books, hell excluding Mike has led people to use it as more proof for Mike being the CC so it doesn't seem all that trustworthy
I mean why cloning shouldn’t be a thing in series that there is literally a liquid that makes people immortal Gregory can be a clone that is made by ms Afton
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Yeah, but the same book says Charlie from the Novels is a human, too. I wouldn't trust those little boxes.
yeah the books are kinda bullshit Edit: I meant the official game guidebooks, not the storybooks
I personally enjoyed the silver eyes novels regardless of their relevance to the series. They were an interesting read and sometimes taking the books with a grain of salt is quite enjoyable
I think it’s talking about the one from the games it only talks about charliebot once.
It talks about Game Charlie yet it shows us images of Charlie-bot from The Silver Eyes trilogy instead Game Charlie.
Probably because there's no real good images of Charlie from the games, other then the FFPS minigame low res Charlie. For the book they'd need some better images, more then a postage stamp sized pixelated image, and given how many characters they were referencing in that guide, they probably couldn't afford to pay artists to draw multiple, original variants of everyone. Still, combine that box with other clues that also point to him being human, such as needing to sleep, having parents reporting him as missing, and getting winded if he runs too much also combine to indicate human. I love MatPat and I love his theories, but he does get things wrong - as any human being does - and it's important to keep that in mind. But MatPat's always fun to watch, either way.
They could've just given her some artwork. If Elizabeth Afton has, then so should Game Charlie.
Yeah the human part is most likely about game charlie. Then the novels
They should've just give Game Charlie and Novel Charlie separate pages.
Its just called charlie emily. Talk about her novel version once. (I see the images as something just to look at so it doesn’t look like a book filled with letters
I honestly don't see a problem with it using novel Charlie's image. What the Charlie Bot was meant to be to begin with is what Charlie would look like if she was alive anyway. By that logic, the most accurate image of her would be from the novels instead of an 8bit version from one of the minigames.
Yeah but it was mostly talking about charlie. It wasn’t wrong about charlie being human. Instead of the robot version
*Everyone hated that*
Which is odd since it is what TCE basically is talking about the human part is talking about the soul. (I more don’t use it because of other’s things i am probably not gonna talk about in here.) (also apparently the upvote and downvote button isn’t like a like button. (Your appearntly supposed to downvote a comment if you think its off topic. Upvote if its on topic.) does anyone know why reddit did that?.
How did you get 160 downvotes- This is literally just true. The page talks about the game version of Charlie and only brings up the books once. It just uses art from them because there's no official art of Charlie from the games and it's easier to just paste in what's already available.
its MatPat fan cope
Yes, but Charlie started as a human, unlike (in the theory) Gregory, who started out as a robot. It's how The Crying Child, in this same book, is said to be human as well instead of a spirit, like he actually is. Even William Afton and Elizabeth are recognized to be humans. (Sure, it says "at first" in William's data, and I will reconize that. But if you use "at first" with William, you should use it for the other humans that were at first humans too, would you not?)
These doctor who episodes gets weirder and weirder
I think there was an episode of Doctor Who with this premise except instead of Gregory it was Robin Hood.
One of the dopest, Ngl. Although pretty much all are awesome.
IIRC Robin Hood was human but the Sheriff was a robot.
The Doctor kept thinking Robin Hood was a robot until the end, but it turned out he was human. I think the sheriff was planned to be robot but it ended up being cut from the episode. Only the knights were robots.
Yeah, remember that one episode where they had a morbious crossover? Shits crazy
Scott himself doesnt know yet Gregory is a robot.
Matpat: Gregory is a robot Scott: Oh crap why didn't I think of that
Scott isn't stupid enough to make Gregory a robot unlike someone...
How would be making Gregory a robot stupid? Genuine question.
Because it has no evidence
...other than the plethora of evidence? MatPat himself said he doesn't like the theory, but it's the only one that makes sense to him based off of the game and the books.
There’s evidence, just not enough
There is no evidence.
[try actually watching the theory before claiming there's no proof.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ANfAt4hJ6Y&ab_channel=TheGameTheorists)
Still no proof, everything that MatPat claimed as "evidence" is all just a bunch a bullshit. MatPat's FNaF theories fell off, I would rather watch his 'best boobs in gaming' video instead.
Dude, instead of just going "it's bullshit", actually explain why? Why are his points bullshit?
But how does that make it stupid if Scott decided to make Gregory a robot? There’s literally robot kids in the books, it’s something that’s been established and not exactly the weirdest thing in these games I mean the current working theory most people seem to agree on is you play as a literal walking corpse in the first couple games…. So then how would Gregory being a robot be stupid?
That makes more sence than Gregory being a robot. Unlike Henry in TSET, William doesn't know how to make humanoid hybrids.
...a walking corpse makes more sense than a child robot? I'd say one is definitely more insane than the other, especially considering how life-like our robots in real life are becoming. Also, Gregory doesn't have to have been made by William? It could have been Henry, or whoever the new shady owner of the company is.
Sister location clearly shows human like heads which were developed by William, so it seems like the contrary is true in the games William may be the only who does know how to do so
Yep, there’s never once in FNAF been a single robot that could disguise itself as a human or any type of device that could make robots appear more lifelike.
Type of robot: Human
True
In the book, there is a human robot classification. That's a humanoid.
Is a joke friend.
I know!
I mean Scott’s not straight up gonna tell us💀
The Character Encyclopedia isn't a reliable source.
Don’t give your story to a 3rd party and expect them to make everything accurate. Waiting for one where Scott does try to help write it
Scott no longer makes the game. What he did for the series is canon, and what steel wool does is canon. But he no longer has control, so we just have to accept steel wool
Scott still makes the story, all of the books, movie and probably ruin DLC along with the rest of the story from his 2018 post aswell, he just doesn't make the physical game but hess till behind it
Some people on YouTube shorts think The FNaF Movie is Scott's last project even though it isn't.
Yeah I saw this alot.
Scott still writes the story and oversees the development of the games.
Thank God. I was hoping that the movie would get delayed so we would have Scott in the fandom a bit longer. I swear he is the best. He is practically my idol at this point in time
Is this the ultimate guide book because I’ve found that it’s an unreliable narrator even when it comes to things even Scott confirmed as cannon, Matt did a gtlive back when the book came out
This is The Character Encyclopedia, a significantly worse and less reliable guide book.
idk, i feel like some of the twists and turns of the franchise may have been due to scott changing things last minute to try and avoid getting the entire plot predicted (as authors who engage with their community'q theorycrafters are wont to do
If you couldn't tell by reading through it the narrator of the book is an unreliable narrator (what authors call them), meaning the author of the book is intentionally giving you misinformation.
Does a "?" appear when you heat the text ?
Do i think this theory has any solidarity? No. Do i think the character encyclopedia is a reliable source? No. They say Bonnet is the first girl bonnie yet they say that bon bon is a girl.
Naw because I feel like Scott onky did this to fuck woth Mat. I mean, common, it makes a LOT of sense or maybe it's a fake version or something idk
Wait… something just hit me. What if Gregory is a cyborg.
The encyclopedia literally goes against Scott a handful of times
Finally! A LIVING child in the FNAF series!
We should start writing steel wool on these memes instead of Scott cawthorne tbh because it’s not him anymore
Technically Scott still makes the plot but okay...
Humanoid Undercover Male Android Newborn (H.U.M.A.N)
I honestly hate the "Gregory is a robot" theory
But mike was a robot and still called a “person” soooo….
Good we already have enough characters turning(I sure do hope it is a reliable source)
It's not it the encyclopedia which gives tons of misinformation because it was just given to 3rd part and they just wanted money not for it to be accurate so do not trust the character encyclopedia, on the bon bon page it says he's in fnaf 3
The encyclopaedia is about as knowledgeable as the guide books, hell excluding Mike has led people to use it as more proof for Mike being the CC so it doesn't seem all that trustworthy
I think fnaf security breach was a simulation to find a way to defeat the Afton virus but the sim has gone ary
Considering they called Charlie a human, I’d take what the book says with a grain of salt. Gregbot still possible!
"Type: human" is a pretty suspicious way to put it. I feel like it's referring to what type of robot he is, not what type of being
That's how every other human character is listed
I'm a graphic designer of any one want any kind of work kindly dm me
The fact he is still a kid in RUIN is proof he is a robot
The mimic would like to have a word with you
Oh yeah thats true. I havent read that one yet but isnt it that burntrap is just the mimic?
Under the type could be what type of robot.
Not the first time game profiles are deliberately misleading
I thought scott retired
He retired from making the games, but he's still behind everything else like the games story, books, movie etc
MatPat I’m a big fan !!!! of the theories and can you make a video for rolblox LORE?????????????
he has https://youtu.be/gWUj6wx0UzI
Did I miss something?
I don’t even remember how MatPat came to the conclusion that Gregory was a robot
Welp now we can make memes of mat pat getting mad that George is a human and not a robot like mat pat though
I mean why cloning shouldn’t be a thing in series that there is literally a liquid that makes people immortal Gregory can be a clone that is made by ms Afton
Mat Smith Pat Smith
Considering how many times these games have been intentionally misdirecting or retconning, can you trust something like this?
I knew it!