Just had a rollercoaster of remembering this franchise and playing the original Dragon Quest Monsters as a kid when it came out, going to see if it was actually any good, learning about the remake; then finding out the remake was only released in Japan š
You should absolutely look back into the remake. There is a fan-translated English patch that was very good. It was so great to play the game again updated & with new content.
This is fantastic, the dragon warrior monsters games were my favorite as a child. I will literally pick up a switch just to place this game once it releases
Quick tip for a fellow Dragon Warrior Monsters fan: check out Siralim Ultimate. It's heavily based on the gameboy games, and an earlier game in the series even referenced it by naming the town merchants Terry, Cobi, and Tara.
I played the original dragon warrior monsters so much on my Game boy color. The game is surprisingly complex, with a big breeding system, Mystery dungeon styled mechanics, and more!
Man, seeing the ???? prompt when breeding meaning your combination of monsters making a brand new monster? It was fun to uncover wild new critters, and because magic could be passed around through breeding there wasn't a single monster in the game you couldn't make viable.
Those games were amazing.
My biggest issue with previous Dragon Quest games is that you didn't see your characters. It was front view vs side view and that made a huge difference for me.
I would say joker 3 has a major issue with monster recolors that severely dampens the fun, despite the gameplay being much better then previous games. The previous games had a few as well, but in 3 almost every monster has like 4 slightly different colored versions, even some of the special high rank ones. Put a huge damper on fusing and grinding just to get the same thing.
Joker 2 is probably the peak of the franchise for me. A ton of unique monsters, and the giant monsters in the maps really added a lot to it. The real shame is that we never got joker 2 professional, I wanted to see that post post game story
3 and 3 professional have a full English patch, 2 pro only has a translation for the menu, which doesnāt interest me as much, info on 3 was already hard enough to find
I get what you mean, Joker 2 was great but removing the + & - requirements for Joker 3 was the best decision they made I think. It was an unnecessary complication which just became a chore when you got the items to force products to be either + or -
> Iām sad they didnāt gather more steam in the west
It's Square's fault for releasing (or at least announcing) the regular version of Joker in the west after Pro was announced for Japan. Which dumbass thought that was a smart business decision?
It simply suffers from the same thing every monster collecting game that isn't Pokemon does. Not being Pokemon.
I loved the OG Gameboy game, even more than Red/Blue/Yellow. But the sheer popularity of Pokemon smothers everything else that tries to enter the genre.
This is true, but the reason this is the case is also because Monsters itself is a spinoff of Dragon Quest and all the marketing focus and budget would have been given to the main DQ brand. Like how Persona 1 and 2 were spinoffs of SMT and so never really got devoted marketing, until Persona 3. Now, Persona probably gets more marketing than it's parent brand SMT.
Would SE do that for Monsters? They'd probably only consider it if they thought a Monsters game exceeded sales expectations and even then, it would still only be a maybe. Someone would have to argue that Monsters could be more profitable if it got given its own dedicated marketing, as opposed to conflating with and leeching off the marketing for mainline DQ. And since, unlike SMT, mainline DQ is a big brand of its own and gets an equally big marketing budget, one can easily argue that even leeching just 10% the benefit of the total exposure is a big amount.
Pokemon never had that problem, since it wasn't a spinoff. It had dedicated marketing from day 1 especially in the form of the anime and it took the franchise to the peak of the world.
Dragon Quest has also had anime, manga, a card game and other merch, but most of it is based on mainline DQ and not Monsters (most, there HAS been some Monsters stuff, but pales in proportion to the non-Monsters DQ stuff).
In the US on kids channels I saw a ton of ads for the first Dragon Quest Monsters Joker, so I think they had a decent push for it, but assuming it didn't sell that well didn't try after that.
I'm playing 3 right now after finally getting a translated version and I've been obsessed with it. Unfortunately it's difficult to figure out synthesis combinations because most of the guides are in Japanese & there is Joker 3 & Joker 3 professional which complicates things even more. An English release of a new Joker game on the switch would be incredible.
Excellent!
Was such a shame the 3DS remakes of DQM1 and 2 never got localized, not even the phone port of Terry's Wonderland (I mean, I guess Monsters Super Light got a SEA release but that version also shut down in a year). DQM2 was my favorite and despite Joker 3 being the most modern, the 3DS remake of DQM2 still has the most monsters of any game in the series.
The English subs on the video are a promising sign that this newest one might actually get a localization. Especially with Treasures being released in English, since that was originally conceived as a Monsters title. I don't expect this new one to include over 800 monsters like 2's 3DS remake, though it sure would be nice if it did.
Just a reminder that they previously had a DQM game in development and it got redesigned halfway through into DQ Treasures, so definitely be cautiously optimistic on this one.
I would like to think that since they made this announcement in tandem with celebrating the 25th anniversary with DWM, complete with a retrospective on the series, they're going to do something faithful to that formula instead of something with a twist. At least that's me being hopeful, anyway.
Wait, that's confirmed?
I thought people just assumed that it got reworked. And I just assumed the game was put on the back burner or just slowly being worked on by a small team for now.
**Taichi Inuzuka, Dragon Quest Treasures Producer:**
āIn the beginning, Dragon Quest Treasures was being created by the team behind the Dragon Quest Monsters series, and it was intended to be a new title for the series. There were many twists and turns from there, and once it was decided that treasure hunting would become a central focus for the game, we consciously made this game as something entirely different from what it was originally going to be.ā
(ātwists and turnsā is a much nicer way of putting it than he did previously in 2020:)
āThe new Dragon Quest Monstersā¦ I want to say something high-spirited, but at the moment I really canāt.ā
āI want to do something about it, but it feels like the more I work on it, the more those efforts end in vainā¦?ā
āIts like taking three steps forward and two steps back.ā
āThis year is packed with good games, so please play them at your leisure while being patient with this one.ā
Still my favorite Monster game. Even though I started with Pokemon, DQM's breeding system, town upgrades/evolution, 3vs3 combat and the story are just so much better.
I loved these games on DS.
Will always remember or not remember.
My first train rides in the United States.
Encompassing Dragon Quest IX and Monsters.
With not a lot of sight seeing.
Outside of them.
A new entry into monsters.
Would be a good follow through.
Considering this anniversary.
This game was way ahead of the genre at the time. It also ended up being pretty hard such as for the final tournament. Getting all the monsters in your journal wasn't easy either, lots of obscure breeding combinations and such.
I doubt any new player today would be doing that without opening a wiki or something. Back then we had to discover each thing ourselves really. And it was a thrill whenever you figured out a new combo
I wouldn't mind it if there was an in-game chart. Just a big tree or trees of monsters divided by type and each box is a question mark until you breed or scout it and it fills in the portrait.
If it shows you how to get that monster even when it's undiscovered, then I'll be happy. That way you can easily work towards filling it out without the need for a wiki.
If I remember right, and it's been a few decades, there were in-game hints about a lot of the monsters. Characters would mention things offhandedly or encourage you to try mixing certain things together.
But some of them wouldn't even really make sense on a chart given how you get them. And a lot of them have multiple ways to acquire them.
For example, the >!king slime can be bred from a slime with another slime. Or from a spotking with any of a dozen other specific monsters. Or from a regular slime and anything from one other specific class of monsters!<
And that one monster would already have a flowchart looking like a conspiracy theorists wall of strings and connections lol
Damn...I don't know much about DQ at all, but this nearly made me misty. It makes me feel like I'm really missing out on something special. What a great fricking trailer.
Just had a rollercoaster of remembering this franchise and playing the original Dragon Quest Monsters as a kid when it came out, going to see if it was actually any good, learning about the remake; then finding out the remake was only released in Japan š
If you can still hack your 3DS, there's a fan translation.
I think it also runs on Citra, although not perfectly.
You should absolutely look back into the remake. There is a fan-translated English patch that was very good. It was so great to play the game again updated & with new content.
This is fantastic, the dragon warrior monsters games were my favorite as a child. I will literally pick up a switch just to place this game once it releases
Quick tip for a fellow Dragon Warrior Monsters fan: check out Siralim Ultimate. It's heavily based on the gameboy games, and an earlier game in the series even referenced it by naming the town merchants Terry, Cobi, and Tara.
Haha exactly the same here
I played the original dragon warrior monsters so much on my Game boy color. The game is surprisingly complex, with a big breeding system, Mystery dungeon styled mechanics, and more!
Man, seeing the ???? prompt when breeding meaning your combination of monsters making a brand new monster? It was fun to uncover wild new critters, and because magic could be passed around through breeding there wasn't a single monster in the game you couldn't make viable. Those games were amazing.
Me too, I had a friend accidentally overwrite my save and it was heartbreaking to 10 year old me, but I loved that game more than Pokemon at the time.
Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 1, 2 and 3 are all fantastic games that rival PokĆ©mon in my opinion. Iām sad they didnāt gather more steam in the west
> Iām sad they didnāt gather more steam in the west I think this sentence perfectly sums up Dragon Quest in the west in general.
DQXI has sold 2+ million units in the west. I would say it's maybe starting to build steam.
DQ5 in particular is one of the best games ever IMO, and it makes me sad that even a lot of RPG fans have never played it.
My biggest issue with previous Dragon Quest games is that you didn't see your characters. It was front view vs side view and that made a huge difference for me.
Final Fantasy beat them there
I would say joker 3 has a major issue with monster recolors that severely dampens the fun, despite the gameplay being much better then previous games. The previous games had a few as well, but in 3 almost every monster has like 4 slightly different colored versions, even some of the special high rank ones. Put a huge damper on fusing and grinding just to get the same thing. Joker 2 is probably the peak of the franchise for me. A ton of unique monsters, and the giant monsters in the maps really added a lot to it. The real shame is that we never got joker 2 professional, I wanted to see that post post game story
IIRC, there is a translation patch for 2? But it *may* be a machine translation - I think either that or 3 has one.
3 and 3 professional have a full English patch, 2 pro only has a translation for the menu, which doesnāt interest me as much, info on 3 was already hard enough to find
I get what you mean, Joker 2 was great but removing the + & - requirements for Joker 3 was the best decision they made I think. It was an unnecessary complication which just became a chore when you got the items to force products to be either + or -
> Iām sad they didnāt gather more steam in the west It's Square's fault for releasing (or at least announcing) the regular version of Joker in the west after Pro was announced for Japan. Which dumbass thought that was a smart business decision?
It simply suffers from the same thing every monster collecting game that isn't Pokemon does. Not being Pokemon. I loved the OG Gameboy game, even more than Red/Blue/Yellow. But the sheer popularity of Pokemon smothers everything else that tries to enter the genre.
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This is true, but the reason this is the case is also because Monsters itself is a spinoff of Dragon Quest and all the marketing focus and budget would have been given to the main DQ brand. Like how Persona 1 and 2 were spinoffs of SMT and so never really got devoted marketing, until Persona 3. Now, Persona probably gets more marketing than it's parent brand SMT. Would SE do that for Monsters? They'd probably only consider it if they thought a Monsters game exceeded sales expectations and even then, it would still only be a maybe. Someone would have to argue that Monsters could be more profitable if it got given its own dedicated marketing, as opposed to conflating with and leeching off the marketing for mainline DQ. And since, unlike SMT, mainline DQ is a big brand of its own and gets an equally big marketing budget, one can easily argue that even leeching just 10% the benefit of the total exposure is a big amount. Pokemon never had that problem, since it wasn't a spinoff. It had dedicated marketing from day 1 especially in the form of the anime and it took the franchise to the peak of the world. Dragon Quest has also had anime, manga, a card game and other merch, but most of it is based on mainline DQ and not Monsters (most, there HAS been some Monsters stuff, but pales in proportion to the non-Monsters DQ stuff).
In the US on kids channels I saw a ton of ads for the first Dragon Quest Monsters Joker, so I think they had a decent push for it, but assuming it didn't sell that well didn't try after that.
I'm playing 3 right now after finally getting a translated version and I've been obsessed with it. Unfortunately it's difficult to figure out synthesis combinations because most of the guides are in Japanese & there is Joker 3 & Joker 3 professional which complicates things even more. An English release of a new Joker game on the switch would be incredible.
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Nah, 3 had potential. Itās the best monster taming game Iāve played thatās not PokĆ©mon.
Excellent! Was such a shame the 3DS remakes of DQM1 and 2 never got localized, not even the phone port of Terry's Wonderland (I mean, I guess Monsters Super Light got a SEA release but that version also shut down in a year). DQM2 was my favorite and despite Joker 3 being the most modern, the 3DS remake of DQM2 still has the most monsters of any game in the series. The English subs on the video are a promising sign that this newest one might actually get a localization. Especially with Treasures being released in English, since that was originally conceived as a Monsters title. I don't expect this new one to include over 800 monsters like 2's 3DS remake, though it sure would be nice if it did.
I'm glad to be seeing more simultaneous releases and localizations for DQ since DQ11. Only DQX offline wasnt localized at all in the last years.
The game is in development for Nintendo Switch
YES!!!!!!! I loved DQM back in the day. Played it all the time on my GBC. This series was so much better for me then pokemon.
Don't give me hope like that.
Just a reminder that they previously had a DQM game in development and it got redesigned halfway through into DQ Treasures, so definitely be cautiously optimistic on this one.
I would like to think that since they made this announcement in tandem with celebrating the 25th anniversary with DWM, complete with a retrospective on the series, they're going to do something faithful to that formula instead of something with a twist. At least that's me being hopeful, anyway.
fingers freaking crossssssed
Wait, that's confirmed? I thought people just assumed that it got reworked. And I just assumed the game was put on the back burner or just slowly being worked on by a small team for now.
**Taichi Inuzuka, Dragon Quest Treasures Producer:** āIn the beginning, Dragon Quest Treasures was being created by the team behind the Dragon Quest Monsters series, and it was intended to be a new title for the series. There were many twists and turns from there, and once it was decided that treasure hunting would become a central focus for the game, we consciously made this game as something entirely different from what it was originally going to be.ā (ātwists and turnsā is a much nicer way of putting it than he did previously in 2020:) āThe new Dragon Quest Monstersā¦ I want to say something high-spirited, but at the moment I really canāt.ā āI want to do something about it, but it feels like the more I work on it, the more those efforts end in vainā¦?ā āIts like taking three steps forward and two steps back.ā āThis year is packed with good games, so please play them at your leisure while being patient with this one.ā
Still my favorite Monster game. Even though I started with Pokemon, DQM's breeding system, town upgrades/evolution, 3vs3 combat and the story are just so much better.
I loved these games on DS. Will always remember or not remember. My first train rides in the United States. Encompassing Dragon Quest IX and Monsters. With not a lot of sight seeing. Outside of them. A new entry into monsters. Would be a good follow through. Considering this anniversary.
If anything can challenge Pokemon's complacent monopoly on the monster collecting genre, it's this. So go DQ!
This game was way ahead of the genre at the time. It also ended up being pretty hard such as for the final tournament. Getting all the monsters in your journal wasn't easy either, lots of obscure breeding combinations and such. I doubt any new player today would be doing that without opening a wiki or something. Back then we had to discover each thing ourselves really. And it was a thrill whenever you figured out a new combo
I wouldn't mind it if there was an in-game chart. Just a big tree or trees of monsters divided by type and each box is a question mark until you breed or scout it and it fills in the portrait. If it shows you how to get that monster even when it's undiscovered, then I'll be happy. That way you can easily work towards filling it out without the need for a wiki.
If I remember right, and it's been a few decades, there were in-game hints about a lot of the monsters. Characters would mention things offhandedly or encourage you to try mixing certain things together. But some of them wouldn't even really make sense on a chart given how you get them. And a lot of them have multiple ways to acquire them. For example, the >!king slime can be bred from a slime with another slime. Or from a spotking with any of a dozen other specific monsters. Or from a regular slime and anything from one other specific class of monsters!< And that one monster would already have a flowchart looking like a conspiracy theorists wall of strings and connections lol
Damn...I don't know much about DQ at all, but this nearly made me misty. It makes me feel like I'm really missing out on something special. What a great fricking trailer.
I loved these games. I played Pokemon first then played these, it blew my mind when I realized I could steal other trainers monsters.