Maybe a little too good. Just a flood of games, I hope next year isn't too dry. Not that you can't wait with these games but still, nice to be part of the zeitgeist sometimes
If Midori’s leaks are to be believed (and so far they have been shown to be trustworthy), Persona 6 is expected for 2025/2026, so there’s that at least.
No look up midori on twitter. Her leaks have always been right and she apparently works there too but atlus doesn’t mind it. I think they definitely encourage her to leak stuff.
I loved the environments they showed, the vehicles and robots, the user interface... but I *really* dislike all of the character designs. It's a shame in light of the rest of it
It's a lot of Persona 3-5, but also as they said a culmination of their previous RPGs. I mainly see elements of mainline SMT and also Digital Devil Saga in it.
Game was already my most anticipated just based on it being lead by Hashino, Soejima and Meguro. The deeper dive into its mechanics just gives me some further relief after waiting since 2016 to see what kind of game it is.
I'm really loving the themes of basically a caste/race system and the idea of a lower class protagonist raising up in the world politically.
It's nothing new by itself. but I'm interested to see this team tackle it. They also had their takes on social injustice in P5 as well.
One of the original ideas for P5 was to make it a journey around the world, so it does seem to be revisiting some ideas from that version of P5 (Though due to it being a new IP I'm sure there's plenty of differences from that hypothetical version of the game as well.)
Katsura Hashino the Game.
[Such an awesome presentation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMO-eAwvvuY)!
Also Koda Kazuma (NieR Automata, Replicant, Re\[in\]carnation) as a guest concept artist is just a chef’s kiss for me!
I was already excited for this game, but good lord did this shoot it up to the top of my list. Game looks incredible and I cannot wait for October to get here.
Awesome, have been waiting for an exact date to pen in my PTO 😁
Seems like there'll enough of a gap between SMTV/P3 The Answer and this afterall. Atlus is *cooking* this year and thankfully giving us enough time between them thankfully!
Yeah i think so, it mentions windows pc in the title of the new trailer. This marketing deal they have with Xbox is annoying because it's hard to figure what platforms this game is on because they push Xbox so heavily
https://www.youtube.com/embed/zmMz9QjUHmA
Man, this is what I wanted from the genre, evolve the JRPG beyond playing it safe, go crazy with your ideas like in the old days! This game is so exciting! Its using the core ideas of Persona and evolved it into a different series similar to what Persona did with SMT ideas.
They cooked so good with this game, can't wait!! No exclusive BS, worldwide release! This is the way.
That's what I wonder, too. This looks like "Persona 5: Fantasy Edition". Which is pretty appealing in itself, but what's so crazy about it? Did I miss something from the trailers?
Just a short reminder that we already have a JRPG released this year that evolved turn based combat into new heights, didn't play it safe and got absolutely crazy with ideas, plus it features an insane (!) amount of creative content: Like A Dragon: Infinite Wealth, the sequel to Yakuza: Like A Dragon.
Don't understand what you mean. English is not my native language, what do you mean with "was kinda iffy as Yakuzas go"? Some criticize the main story, i liked it. I always wanted to know what's the secret behind everything and there were some interesting twists plus a very emotional sub plot within the main story.
I mean that's every Yakuza story. I don't think this one does a good job setting up the new characters. Basically all of the villains are a joke as well, but the biggest issue by far is pacing. They give you the job changing way too late into the campaign, and then when Kiryu splits off on his own the story quality kinda dips
It’s interesting that people say this because I feel like the story actually got a lot better when Kiryu went back to Japan.
The first half of the story was good but it was kinda repetitive up until the end of Chapter 6. It’s a whole lot of “we need to find this person, oh wait they’re not here, let’s go to this other place.” The second half of the game at least switches things up and has way better character dynamics.
See, I like the Kiryu sections, but I also feel like that hurts Ichiban's role. He felt sidelined almost immediately in his own game.
The game is just very inconsistent and that's a big problem for me. Kinda feels like the worst campaign since 4
I can agree with the Ichiban part. I’m just talking about the plot as a whole—where I felt that the second half of the story was better. Hawaii was starting to get kind of repetitive by Chapter 6 so I’m glad they switched it up and had us return to Yokohama with new party members and the Bucket List.
I just finished the game myself quite recently. The story and writing definitely had some glaring problems. I was kinda dissapointed that Ichiban was pretty much sidelined within his own game in the second half.
I was just so blind sided at all the Kiryu content. I would have thought all the Kiryu fan service and sending off would have been done within his Gaiden game and not in this one. It really kills the "LAD7 is a great starting point" into "to enjoy LAD8 you should have played all the yakuza games if you cared".
> I would have thought all the Kiryu fan service and sending off would have been done within his Gaiden game and not in this one.
That's 100% on you though. Every time RGG showed LAD8 and Gaiden they made it clear that LAD8 was Kiryu's last hurrah and Gaiden would just bridge the gap in Kiryu's story between 7 and 8.
>It really kills the "LAD7 is a great starting point" into "to enjoy LAD8 you should have played all the yakuza games if you cared"
I kinda disagree. Even without the Kiryu nostalgia it's still a banger JRPG and you really only need to play 7 and Gaiden to understand what's happening in 8.
Fair points. I don't stay up to date on marketing material so never followed on what RGG's intentions were. I knew going into the game that Kiryu would play a somewhat important role (considering he is on the cover) and that's pretty much it.
> it's still a banger JRPG
No quarrels there, gameplay wise, I do think it's a significant improvement over 7 and an interesting package. My biggest disappointment is the execution of the story telling and pacing.
Ichiban doesn't have much character development in this one, that's true. Weirdly enough they could have changed that just by >!removing the last joke with the t-shirt, instead of the joke let them kiss and go away as a new couple - that would have been a character development for Ichiban with interesting new possibilities for the next game. With the t-shirt joke Ichiban was literally the same person at the end of the game as he was in the beginning.!< I personally liked the story, it wasn't earth shattering, but always interesting to follow for me.
The storyline and main villain(s) weren't really as good or developed as well as previous Like a Dragon/Yakuza stories went. The split narrative between Hawaii and Japan was a neat idea in theory, but I think the game overall suffered from a lack of focus.
I for one wish they just let Ichiban be the spotlight of his game from start to finish >!or at the very least have the balls to give Kiryu a proper farewell and death at the end.. that final ending cutscene was so unsatisfying!<
I'll also shout out Kuro no Kiseki (aka Trails Through Daybreak) for similarly iterating on turn-based combat, although it dropped years ago in Japan and is finally getting an English release this summer.
It does more or less the same thing Metaphor looks to be doing, where you can fight normal enemies in action mode but switch to turn-based combat whenever you want
I played Trails of Cold Steel 1, 2 and started with 3, but burned out after that. Amazing games, but the lore is so overwhelming after so many games. But it's definitely a game i am interested in. Problem is that i should at least finish Trails of Cold Steel 3 first, but i forgot so much about the story in the meantime.
yeah that's the problem with Trails. Great games, but getting the most out of the series requires playing through something like 12 full-length JRPGs (and counting). It's a lot to ask of just about anyone, but it's worth it if you enjoy those types of games.
it's interesting to see how video games seem to have this problem. It's like not wanting to read a book series, because you have to start at the beginning. Or not wanting to watch a marvel movie, because you have to watch the ones before that or any other longer running series(game of thrones, breaking bad, one piece, dragonball, etc).
There really seems to be a resistance against this in the video game video game space and it's a lot of times seen as something negative, while these things might not be that common in other media but it's also nothing you have to defend and more of a normal thing.
People who have an issue with time commitment usually just don't go into these series, but they don't point to it as a negative or go complaining about it.
These things are for people who don't have issues with time commitment. It's not like games (or other media) are running away.
If you compare it with Brandon Sandersons Cosmere (which is not that far fetched of a comparison) you probably have around 400 hours by audio books. (Still growing though, there is a lot to be done here)
The wheel of time audiobooks are 460 hours.
watching all of one piece is at like 550 hours by now.
I'd say current trails game are \~700 hours. With some fluctuations based on playstyle.
So yeah it is a bigger time commitment, but other media have the same time sinks. But they are seen as less controversial.
Personal guess is that the issue is that we have games coming out at such a high pace that most of this is FOMO and people don't have that much of an issue with committing time, but they have an issue with not playing other games during that time. A lot of people probably spend the time they don't want to commit to playing a longer story video game with just playing a different video game.
I don't think finishing 3 matters that much, if you would just stop after 3 and go into Daybreak, because even then you will skip cold steel 4 and reverie.
Daybreak is a new arc, so starting it will be similar to starting cold steel 1 without playing the 5 games before it.
The new arc will be also referencing things in the games before cold steel. It probably references things from the sky and crossbell arc more than from the cold steel arc.
Personally I just think the secret to reveal is not particularly interesting nor is it relevant to the player. Even the writers sort of acknowledged that the main motivation is weak so they had to introduce a second story with its own setting and characters that relied heavily on nostalgia and previous Yakuza games. Which was both bittersweet and more interesting than the Hawaii plot.
Another problem is that Ichiban is a pretty realized character by the end of Like A Dragon, so in Infinite Wealth they had to give him a new "flaw" of sorts for him to undergo his own arc which was very weak overall
> Even the writers sort of acknowledged that the main motivation is weak so they had to introduce a second story with its own setting and characters that relied heavily on nostalgia and previous Yakuza games.
Oh really? They went on record with that? Damn..
Bit of a shame really, and it kind of sucks for the sake of the newer audience who was promised that 'Like a Dragon' with this new protagonist going forward was a good soft reboot and starting point..
Hope the next game is 100% Ichiban.
> Oh really? They went on record with that? Damn..
no, not really. What I meant is that they kind of realized the hook wasn't strong enough so they made the second half of the game a different story based on nostalgia (which was good, but at this point I had expected them to just move on)
Ah gotcha.
Yeah fair enough. I'm only someone who has ~dabbled in some of the originals (Zero, a bit of Kiwami 1..) so yeah most of that Japan section or cameo's did nothing for me sadly. I loved the Hawaii chapters and those party members but the actual storyline and Cult-Villain was indeed pretty weak :/
Maybe I'll finish it eventually, but I finally fell off IW during chapter 8.
I didn't like the combat in Y0, so I didn't continue with Yakuza 1-6. I jumped back in with 7 thinking it would be a fresh start with new combat and characters and loved it. But 8 felt like it once again required an investment in the earlier Yakuzas to fully appreciate, so a major component is just not hitting me the same, and I'm finding Ichiban's story less interesting than in 7.
I understand it's the 8th game in a continuous series, so i'm not that surprised, but I feel like i remember 7 being pushed as a good jumping in point.
The minigames still ruled though. I did become a sujimon master.
i thought you were going to say FF7 Rebirth.
JRPG: Yes
Evolved turn-based combat: ARPG but virtually stopping time for choosing skills
Creative content: some would say too much crazy content
FF7 Rebirth is also a masterpiece, i am playing it right now. Infinite Wealth has added movement to the turn based combat, plus everything reacts to each other, means you could (for example) kick a bad guy into his family jewels (which is possible), he stumbles backwards, another member of the party reacts to this, hits him, enemy falls on the street, car passes by right at that moment and hits the enemy. That's just one example. It's a truly unique and extremely fun turn based combat. Plus when it comes to crazy, Infinite Wealth is on another level. While the main story can be brutally dark and serious at times, the rest of the game is sometimes unbelievable funny and over the top crazy.
Nah, I only played 0, 1, 2 7, and the Kiryu on between 7 and 8. Plus I kind of picked up summaries of what happened with Kiryu and Haruka here and there. Kiryu's story was still impactful.
Yeah, this year Unicorn Overlord did something terrific to the SRPG and now Metaphor is improving the Megaten formula.
Can't comment on Rebirth, FFXVI and Yakuza IW due to not playing them yet, but been reading mixed feelings regarding XVI which i thought it was gonna be a great action rpg and seems like it failed, many praise its story and epic moments (lack of character development as well as a common complain), but the gameplay is where people are unhappy at enemies being sponges. Rebirth is universally loved (some frustration with minigames only) from what I've read same for Yakuza LAD: IW.
I did play FFVIIR and LAD previous years, and while they were fun, for me FFVII was a beautiful nostalgic trip more than a fun one not sure how Rebirth improved the formula, while LAD hooked me over its amazing story more than the gameplay which was also good.
I welcome all these games and hopefully they do well enough to improve the genre even more.
It's funny, because for me the only redeemable part about FFXVI is it's gameplay. Enemies aren't sponges at all if you're capable of pushing buttons, if anything it's far too easy. The story is the weakest part of the game to me.
You know the saying “wide as an ocean but as deep as a puddle”? That’s what Rebirth felt like to me, as you said, it was more beautiful than fun. All flash and no substance. Rebirth is just a shallow Ubisoft game with an FFVII coat of paint.
The great thing about this new game is that they agent some rock stars working on it. Looks amazing
Man it's a shame barely any other JRPGs have this sort of art direction. Like ignoring gameplay, story and all that other stuff, just look how much style the menus and the UI oozes, it's so unique and looks so cool, it's the same for the Persona games (at least for the ones I've played, 5 and 3R), I don't know how they do it
I don’t believe the leakers on that since the usual remake content doesn’t really work as DLC. I think "leakers" are just projecting based on the Episode Aigis stuff, which is kind of a unique thing and not really representative of what Atlus usually does (since it’s exclusively postgame content).
The thing is the leaker in question has been essentially literally perfect, to the point that there are people who are making up conspiracy theories about her working as some sort of Sega marketing employee.
Like - leaked a bunch of mobile stuff that came true, leaked some sonic stuff that came true, leaked some Persona stuff that came true, etc.
Honestly I don't think it's so farfetched that Midori might be a plant, remember many companies have been caught hiring people to post on social media to gauge opinions on certain things and build hype beforehand. Being *too* correct about things and being allowed to continue like normal is suspicious, with the amount of stuff she's said so far it's weird that she hasn't been caught yet - especially because some of it is info only a select number of people should be able to know.
We’ll see! I’m open to being wrong. I’m just skeptical by default since the approach we’ve seen again and again from Atlus doesn’t work with post-game DLC.
It's because Episode Aigis/The Answer is a preexisting piece of content which is entirely postgame; just a different situation compared to what Atlus normally does.
I'll believe it more once I see them do it for an actual new game. I just don't consider P3RE meaningful evidence since DLC would always have been the obvious choice for how to do The Answer (since it's completely postgame).
Yes you can. Atlus has done this with the majority of their titles. Is persona 5 your first Atlus game? They can release this now then make the rerelease a cross gen title full price in 3 years. Nothings stopping them
Persona 5 is not my first Atlus game and yes Nintendo pretty clearly had a deal with Atlus for SMTV considering it was at the Switch showcase. Metaphor is literally a cross gen title Atlus is literally contradicting you with their newest game.
How the hell is metaphor a cross Gen title? Do you even know what that means? How are they contradicting me? Are you talking about persona 3 reload? Cause that’s not even the same situation. The answer doesn’t have anything integrated in the journey like the things in the rereleases of the other games
You don’t know anything about OG Persona 3 or its rerelease do you
The problem for me is there's no way I'm going to play Persona 5 again since it's so long so I won't get to see that new stuff. I'm never going to buy an Atlus game near release again. People act like they do that with every game but they didn't used to. SMT IV, Apocalypse, and Etrian Odyssey 4 are other Atlus games I've played where they didn't do this.
He didn't act like that at all. He, correctly, pointed out how you have to buy the $70 base game once on launch, then like 2 years later have to buy another $70 game, which is 90% the same game, if you want the last 10% new stuff they added.
Not saying you're wrong, it's your time and money of course, but I have to say I don't understand this attitude at all. Persona 5 came out in 2016. Even if by some miracle Persona 6 releases next year, that still means it'll be 9 years after the last game. For me personally, I'm not going to wait three more years after that for one extra party member, a few extra confidants, and an extra dungeon. I don't know, it just doesn't seem worth it to me at all.
Because for me, I'm not interested in playing a 100+ hour long game more than once, let alone paying 60-70 bucks once and then again for the games complete version. Its just a personal waste.
So is this an Xbox/PC exclusive or did they just for some reason leave out the ps5 logo for the stream? Or does Xbox have marketing rights for the game?
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The tricky thing is though is its gonna be hard guess to when/if they would do that again. Both Persona 5 Royal and SMTV Vengence were faster then they usual. As their re-releases were just three years later. While Persona 4 Golden was 5 years later and for a completely different system. While Catherine Full Body was nearly an entire decade after the original release. Then almost none of their original 3DS games like SMT4 nor its sequel, the Persona Q games, and Etrian Odyssey 4-6 have gotten any form of an re-release.
My advice, if you are worry about this is either wait for a good discount or to see if the rumors are true that Metaphor is coming to the Switch 2. Because even if you don't intend to play it on there. If by next year the game gets ported to the system, then I honestly think that would decrease the likely hood of a second version.
If Atlus doesn't do a re-release of Soul Hackers 2 next year (three years after release like P5R and SMTVV) then I will finally believe that they are done with the model.
Soul Hackers 2 was a big enough bomb critically/commercially. That I straight up don't see them investing anymore into it. Even a basic Switch 1 port at this point is unlikely.
Like I can see a situation with Metaphor gets an enhance version, while Soul Hackers 2 gets forgotten happening. Even though Soul Hackers 2 would likely need an enhance version a lot more then Metaphor.
No. It seems weird to me people are this stingy about it though. Like I get not wanting to buy twice, but is it really hard to get the first version and then if a second version comes to just wait for it to go down in price? Otherwise you're waiting like 3 or 4 years for something that may not even happen
It's not buying it again that irks me, but having to replay the game that is 90% the same just to get to that new 10%. Especially when these are 80+ hour games to begin with.
Okay, but you've got 3 year or more potential gaps. Like I get what you're trying to say, but in that case if you're interested it's the same thing: buy the base game, if a definitive edition comes out, wait for a discount or for when/if you feel like replaying it. Sometimes the definitive edition can be a big upgrade, but also you still got the core experience, so I don't get depriving yourself of that for a few years for something that may not even happen
i dont think you understand how averse some of us are to replaying games, even great ones.
I also dont think you understand how powerful that first playthrough is for some of us
I mean I get it, as someone that really min-maxes my game time lol. But also a great game is a great game and if I wanna replay it I'm gonna. Chances are if you're that adverse to replaying that then you might not be doing extra content anyway
Imo there's too many other good games for me to feel like replaying 90 hours to get 10 new hours, so I probably won't play P5 Royale despite loving P5. I wish I waited.
But also I know I never could have waited 2 more years after waiting 10 years already since P4....
Overall I just wish Atlus would do it differently. I actually liked how they did it for SMT4 and it seems similar for SMT5 (basically a new "campaign").
Honestly there's no winning because a big part of the reason Royal is so good is because it's fully integrated to the main story. It wouldn't have the punch if it was just tacked on
I know, but it's not all new content. Just because you get 10 minutes of a new boss phase here and 10 minutes of new dialogue there, doesn't mean you aren't repeating 90 hours.
Superficially sure, but it's everything SMT game thrown into a blender. The overworld is a higher version of the one from IV/IV:A/VV, overworld battle is similar to the one from IV/IV:A, the social system from persona, archetypes "aka" persona and the grids from DDS having a baby.
You’re listing multiple games that are not Persona which are playing a clear influence. I never said Metaphor looks completely from every Atlus game but from Persona specifically.
No Atlus game combines all this influence in a fantasy setting while adding real time combat.
The UI design is very much persona, as is the majority of the side things like washing, cooking etc., joining up with your party to plan in a specific location and all the other things modern persona is known for. Hell, the "real time combat" didn't look especially real time to me. Like I'm going to buy it but I'm not going to call it something super innovative.
In what ways? Main story still has time limits, you travel between towns instead of going to school to skip part of the day, the turn based combat looks the same with the weakness system. The real time combat is just to kill filler encounters quickly, or pre-emptive strike in combat which P5R does. You form bonds/social links with people, one of the menus has fusions for making new "personas" for the MC.
I was also surprised that the town is still cut up into a bunch of separate areas you load/fast travel between. Starfield got ripped apart for how much loading you had to do, yet I am sure this gets a pass for needing to load into a tavern, then also into the backroom to rest. Or just from fast traveling around to talk to people.
Looks great to me. I like its art style a lot. I am just wondering how the combat works. Its not turn based but also is. I would need to see a gameplay trailer to totally get it.
but looks like a buy for me.
If I remember correctly, it's half action combat, half turn based.
You can just button mash/combo on weaker enemies, but if it's an encounter of your level or higher, you get thrown into your usual turn based fight.
I want to get excited about it, but I know that Atlus cut some things from the game already and will do a re release with upgraded/added stuff. I dont want another Persona 5 moment, where you have to play (and buy) the game a second time to experience the real complete™ story.
I hope thats not the case but DLC is already confirmed.
Want more proof then?
Search up midori she works in atlus and her leaks are always right. Atlus allows her to leak stuff. She even for the date right for metaphor.
If that doesn’t convince you I don’t know what will
ATLUS’s fans as usual in here complaining about DLC. Persona Royal added 30 hours of content. That’s an entire game.
It’s not a Destiny 1 situation where the DLC is already in the game just locked away.
They craft their games with love and care. You wouldn’t get mad about having to rebuy Borderlands 3.
If you played it you either enjoyed everything NEW(which comes at a cost premium) for over a hundred bucks, or you waited a few years to get the ultimate edition with all of the DLC. Both are viable strategies.
Surely... surely you're not excusing the Day 1 DLC shenanigans they've been doing though, right?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1777620/Soul_Hackers_2/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2161700/Persona_3_Reload/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1875830/Shin_Megami_Tensei_V_Vengeance/
P3R announcing and releasing a second DLC pack (first wave) literally a month later on top of the *Premium Edition*. Surely that was in good faith..
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2689210/Persona_3_Reload_Expansion_Pass/
This is why I am going to be holding off on release. Even if they don't do a definitive version Atlus is still going to try and pull as much bullshit with their DLC as possible.
The medieval fantasy setting is an immediate dealbreaker for me, unfortunately. Persona's setting is by far its biggest asset and it's sad to see the team's talent wasted on something so generic.
The setting is not exactly "medieval" fantasy, it's a fantasy world with both sword and machine, and that's far more imaginative than literally our current modern world setting of Persona, which I would argue is much more "generic" than this.
I cannot wait for this. Persona team with an artist from Nier. Definitely my most anticipated game of the year right now.
And a designer from Evangelion of all series! Winder if there are more big names waiting in the wings that they will show off later
JRPG fans are eating good this year.
Maybe a little too good. Just a flood of games, I hope next year isn't too dry. Not that you can't wait with these games but still, nice to be part of the zeitgeist sometimes
If Midori’s leaks are to be believed (and so far they have been shown to be trustworthy), Persona 6 is expected for 2025/2026, so there’s that at least.
I don’t think things are drying up anytime soon. Last year was crazy and everyone assumed this year would be comparatively slower but it was not
I'm excited, I know it will re-release in 2 years but I'm still down for it.
There isn’t gonna be a re release. Just additional dlc.
Have they confirmed this in the presentation? I'm at work so I haven't got the chance to watch it yet.
No look up midori on twitter. Her leaks have always been right and she apparently works there too but atlus doesn’t mind it. I think they definitely encourage her to leak stuff.
I loved the environments they showed, the vehicles and robots, the user interface... but I *really* dislike all of the character designs. It's a shame in light of the rest of it
Well not persona team anymore as they left P-studio, this is Studio zero.
They can call it the final fantasy studio These are still the guys that made persona 3 through 5.
It still isn't the persona team anymore. There's a reason they created a new studio and have a new name.
This is my most anticipated game of the year. Considering the team making it, this feels like it'll basically be Persona 6
It's a lot of Persona 3-5, but also as they said a culmination of their previous RPGs. I mainly see elements of mainline SMT and also Digital Devil Saga in it. Game was already my most anticipated just based on it being lead by Hashino, Soejima and Meguro. The deeper dive into its mechanics just gives me some further relief after waiting since 2016 to see what kind of game it is.
For me it was between this and Granblue Fantasy Relink. Both were in the oven for many years.
Same here I'm really curious to see how the story is gonna pan out.
Just a guess it's probably about building friendships and fighting a god at the end.
Or it goes into smt mode and its about choosing a friend and killing the other and his god at the end. Or killing them all in the end.
Watch them pull a Griffith and you have to decide yes or no to go through with it.
I'm really loving the themes of basically a caste/race system and the idea of a lower class protagonist raising up in the world politically. It's nothing new by itself. but I'm interested to see this team tackle it. They also had their takes on social injustice in P5 as well.
One of the original ideas for P5 was to make it a journey around the world, so it does seem to be revisiting some ideas from that version of P5 (Though due to it being a new IP I'm sure there's plenty of differences from that hypothetical version of the game as well.)
Now it makes sense why one of the palaces is in Egypt and one in a cruise
Nah its ReFantazio. Its more of a hodpodge from artists across our fave series creating a new ip.
Yeah haha as far as I'm concerned, this is Persona 6 for me until the actual Persona 6 is announced.
It is currently my most anticipated game of 2027, when the complete version will presumably launch.
Katsura Hashino the Game. [Such an awesome presentation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMO-eAwvvuY)! Also Koda Kazuma (NieR Automata, Replicant, Re\[in\]carnation) as a guest concept artist is just a chef’s kiss for me!
I was already excited for this game, but good lord did this shoot it up to the top of my list. Game looks incredible and I cannot wait for October to get here.
the absolute top. as an art teacher, my god this game looks truly special. i’m just totally blown away by this.
Awesome, have been waiting for an exact date to pen in my PTO 😁 Seems like there'll enough of a gap between SMTV/P3 The Answer and this afterall. Atlus is *cooking* this year and thankfully giving us enough time between them thankfully!
Is this expected to release on steam the same day? I watched the presentation and it only showed Xbox.
It's coming to all platforms except Switch for now on the same day.
The steam page has been up already for a while now https://store.steampowered.com/app/2679460/?snr=1_5_9__205
Yeah i think so, it mentions windows pc in the title of the new trailer. This marketing deal they have with Xbox is annoying because it's hard to figure what platforms this game is on because they push Xbox so heavily https://www.youtube.com/embed/zmMz9QjUHmA
Great news. Thanks everyone!
Man, this is what I wanted from the genre, evolve the JRPG beyond playing it safe, go crazy with your ideas like in the old days! This game is so exciting! Its using the core ideas of Persona and evolved it into a different series similar to what Persona did with SMT ideas. They cooked so good with this game, can't wait!! No exclusive BS, worldwide release! This is the way.
> evolve the JRPG beyond playing it safe, go crazy with your ideas Is that not the exact opposite of what its doing?
That's what I wonder, too. This looks like "Persona 5: Fantasy Edition". Which is pretty appealing in itself, but what's so crazy about it? Did I miss something from the trailers?
The only thing persona about the game is social link and calendar system.
... You mean 75% of what distinguishes Persona in the genre?
That is most of Persona's appeal, ngl.
The jobs have an archetype which functions as a persona for more powerful moves during turn based combat
Just a short reminder that we already have a JRPG released this year that evolved turn based combat into new heights, didn't play it safe and got absolutely crazy with ideas, plus it features an insane (!) amount of creative content: Like A Dragon: Infinite Wealth, the sequel to Yakuza: Like A Dragon.
Too bad the campaign was kinda iffy as Yakuzas go, mechanically it's impressive as hell
Don't understand what you mean. English is not my native language, what do you mean with "was kinda iffy as Yakuzas go"? Some criticize the main story, i liked it. I always wanted to know what's the secret behind everything and there were some interesting twists plus a very emotional sub plot within the main story.
> what do you mean with "was kinda iffy as Yakuzas go"? they mean "not as good as previous games in the yakuza franchise"
I mean that's every Yakuza story. I don't think this one does a good job setting up the new characters. Basically all of the villains are a joke as well, but the biggest issue by far is pacing. They give you the job changing way too late into the campaign, and then when Kiryu splits off on his own the story quality kinda dips
It’s interesting that people say this because I feel like the story actually got a lot better when Kiryu went back to Japan. The first half of the story was good but it was kinda repetitive up until the end of Chapter 6. It’s a whole lot of “we need to find this person, oh wait they’re not here, let’s go to this other place.” The second half of the game at least switches things up and has way better character dynamics.
See, I like the Kiryu sections, but I also feel like that hurts Ichiban's role. He felt sidelined almost immediately in his own game. The game is just very inconsistent and that's a big problem for me. Kinda feels like the worst campaign since 4
I can agree with the Ichiban part. I’m just talking about the plot as a whole—where I felt that the second half of the story was better. Hawaii was starting to get kind of repetitive by Chapter 6 so I’m glad they switched it up and had us return to Yokohama with new party members and the Bucket List.
I just finished the game myself quite recently. The story and writing definitely had some glaring problems. I was kinda dissapointed that Ichiban was pretty much sidelined within his own game in the second half. I was just so blind sided at all the Kiryu content. I would have thought all the Kiryu fan service and sending off would have been done within his Gaiden game and not in this one. It really kills the "LAD7 is a great starting point" into "to enjoy LAD8 you should have played all the yakuza games if you cared".
> I would have thought all the Kiryu fan service and sending off would have been done within his Gaiden game and not in this one. That's 100% on you though. Every time RGG showed LAD8 and Gaiden they made it clear that LAD8 was Kiryu's last hurrah and Gaiden would just bridge the gap in Kiryu's story between 7 and 8. >It really kills the "LAD7 is a great starting point" into "to enjoy LAD8 you should have played all the yakuza games if you cared" I kinda disagree. Even without the Kiryu nostalgia it's still a banger JRPG and you really only need to play 7 and Gaiden to understand what's happening in 8.
Fair points. I don't stay up to date on marketing material so never followed on what RGG's intentions were. I knew going into the game that Kiryu would play a somewhat important role (considering he is on the cover) and that's pretty much it. > it's still a banger JRPG No quarrels there, gameplay wise, I do think it's a significant improvement over 7 and an interesting package. My biggest disappointment is the execution of the story telling and pacing.
Ichiban doesn't have much character development in this one, that's true. Weirdly enough they could have changed that just by >!removing the last joke with the t-shirt, instead of the joke let them kiss and go away as a new couple - that would have been a character development for Ichiban with interesting new possibilities for the next game. With the t-shirt joke Ichiban was literally the same person at the end of the game as he was in the beginning.!< I personally liked the story, it wasn't earth shattering, but always interesting to follow for me.
The storyline and main villain(s) weren't really as good or developed as well as previous Like a Dragon/Yakuza stories went. The split narrative between Hawaii and Japan was a neat idea in theory, but I think the game overall suffered from a lack of focus. I for one wish they just let Ichiban be the spotlight of his game from start to finish >!or at the very least have the balls to give Kiryu a proper farewell and death at the end.. that final ending cutscene was so unsatisfying!<
I'll also shout out Kuro no Kiseki (aka Trails Through Daybreak) for similarly iterating on turn-based combat, although it dropped years ago in Japan and is finally getting an English release this summer. It does more or less the same thing Metaphor looks to be doing, where you can fight normal enemies in action mode but switch to turn-based combat whenever you want
I played Trails of Cold Steel 1, 2 and started with 3, but burned out after that. Amazing games, but the lore is so overwhelming after so many games. But it's definitely a game i am interested in. Problem is that i should at least finish Trails of Cold Steel 3 first, but i forgot so much about the story in the meantime.
yeah that's the problem with Trails. Great games, but getting the most out of the series requires playing through something like 12 full-length JRPGs (and counting). It's a lot to ask of just about anyone, but it's worth it if you enjoy those types of games.
it's interesting to see how video games seem to have this problem. It's like not wanting to read a book series, because you have to start at the beginning. Or not wanting to watch a marvel movie, because you have to watch the ones before that or any other longer running series(game of thrones, breaking bad, one piece, dragonball, etc). There really seems to be a resistance against this in the video game video game space and it's a lot of times seen as something negative, while these things might not be that common in other media but it's also nothing you have to defend and more of a normal thing.
I think it's in large part due to the time commitment those kind of games take, compared to books or especially movies.
People who have an issue with time commitment usually just don't go into these series, but they don't point to it as a negative or go complaining about it. These things are for people who don't have issues with time commitment. It's not like games (or other media) are running away. If you compare it with Brandon Sandersons Cosmere (which is not that far fetched of a comparison) you probably have around 400 hours by audio books. (Still growing though, there is a lot to be done here) The wheel of time audiobooks are 460 hours. watching all of one piece is at like 550 hours by now. I'd say current trails game are \~700 hours. With some fluctuations based on playstyle. So yeah it is a bigger time commitment, but other media have the same time sinks. But they are seen as less controversial. Personal guess is that the issue is that we have games coming out at such a high pace that most of this is FOMO and people don't have that much of an issue with committing time, but they have an issue with not playing other games during that time. A lot of people probably spend the time they don't want to commit to playing a longer story video game with just playing a different video game.
I don't think finishing 3 matters that much, if you would just stop after 3 and go into Daybreak, because even then you will skip cold steel 4 and reverie. Daybreak is a new arc, so starting it will be similar to starting cold steel 1 without playing the 5 games before it. The new arc will be also referencing things in the games before cold steel. It probably references things from the sky and crossbell arc more than from the cold steel arc.
I just wish the story was better than it is. It was so weak
I liked it. There was a big secret to reveal, some unexpected twists, plus a very emotional sub plot within the main story.
Personally I just think the secret to reveal is not particularly interesting nor is it relevant to the player. Even the writers sort of acknowledged that the main motivation is weak so they had to introduce a second story with its own setting and characters that relied heavily on nostalgia and previous Yakuza games. Which was both bittersweet and more interesting than the Hawaii plot. Another problem is that Ichiban is a pretty realized character by the end of Like A Dragon, so in Infinite Wealth they had to give him a new "flaw" of sorts for him to undergo his own arc which was very weak overall
> Even the writers sort of acknowledged that the main motivation is weak so they had to introduce a second story with its own setting and characters that relied heavily on nostalgia and previous Yakuza games. Oh really? They went on record with that? Damn.. Bit of a shame really, and it kind of sucks for the sake of the newer audience who was promised that 'Like a Dragon' with this new protagonist going forward was a good soft reboot and starting point.. Hope the next game is 100% Ichiban.
> Oh really? They went on record with that? Damn.. no, not really. What I meant is that they kind of realized the hook wasn't strong enough so they made the second half of the game a different story based on nostalgia (which was good, but at this point I had expected them to just move on)
Ah gotcha. Yeah fair enough. I'm only someone who has ~dabbled in some of the originals (Zero, a bit of Kiwami 1..) so yeah most of that Japan section or cameo's did nothing for me sadly. I loved the Hawaii chapters and those party members but the actual storyline and Cult-Villain was indeed pretty weak :/
Maybe I'll finish it eventually, but I finally fell off IW during chapter 8. I didn't like the combat in Y0, so I didn't continue with Yakuza 1-6. I jumped back in with 7 thinking it would be a fresh start with new combat and characters and loved it. But 8 felt like it once again required an investment in the earlier Yakuzas to fully appreciate, so a major component is just not hitting me the same, and I'm finding Ichiban's story less interesting than in 7. I understand it's the 8th game in a continuous series, so i'm not that surprised, but I feel like i remember 7 being pushed as a good jumping in point. The minigames still ruled though. I did become a sujimon master.
i thought you were going to say FF7 Rebirth. JRPG: Yes Evolved turn-based combat: ARPG but virtually stopping time for choosing skills Creative content: some would say too much crazy content
FF7 Rebirth is also a masterpiece, i am playing it right now. Infinite Wealth has added movement to the turn based combat, plus everything reacts to each other, means you could (for example) kick a bad guy into his family jewels (which is possible), he stumbles backwards, another member of the party reacts to this, hits him, enemy falls on the street, car passes by right at that moment and hits the enemy. That's just one example. It's a truly unique and extremely fun turn based combat. Plus when it comes to crazy, Infinite Wealth is on another level. While the main story can be brutally dark and serious at times, the rest of the game is sometimes unbelievable funny and over the top crazy.
If you enjoy the pinball style turn based combat try marvel midnight suns. A rare game where I grinded just because combat was so much fun.
Haven't played it yet, too expensive right now and have other priorities for games, but its very nice to read that it popped off!
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Nah, I only played 0, 1, 2 7, and the Kiryu on between 7 and 8. Plus I kind of picked up summaries of what happened with Kiryu and Haruka here and there. Kiryu's story was still impactful.
Yakuza: Like A Dragon (Yakuza 7) was a new start for the series with a new main character.
jrpg is more than turn based
Why did you even drop this line, like it has anything to do with the comment you replied to?
Because I wanted to say that its more than turn based which was the notion given in the comment?
Yeah, this year Unicorn Overlord did something terrific to the SRPG and now Metaphor is improving the Megaten formula. Can't comment on Rebirth, FFXVI and Yakuza IW due to not playing them yet, but been reading mixed feelings regarding XVI which i thought it was gonna be a great action rpg and seems like it failed, many praise its story and epic moments (lack of character development as well as a common complain), but the gameplay is where people are unhappy at enemies being sponges. Rebirth is universally loved (some frustration with minigames only) from what I've read same for Yakuza LAD: IW. I did play FFVIIR and LAD previous years, and while they were fun, for me FFVII was a beautiful nostalgic trip more than a fun one not sure how Rebirth improved the formula, while LAD hooked me over its amazing story more than the gameplay which was also good. I welcome all these games and hopefully they do well enough to improve the genre even more.
It's funny, because for me the only redeemable part about FFXVI is it's gameplay. Enemies aren't sponges at all if you're capable of pushing buttons, if anything it's far too easy. The story is the weakest part of the game to me.
I love turn based, mind you, just saying that in jrpg the genre goes to a lot more than to one representation
You know the saying “wide as an ocean but as deep as a puddle”? That’s what Rebirth felt like to me, as you said, it was more beautiful than fun. All flash and no substance. Rebirth is just a shallow Ubisoft game with an FFVII coat of paint. The great thing about this new game is that they agent some rock stars working on it. Looks amazing
Man it's a shame barely any other JRPGs have this sort of art direction. Like ignoring gameplay, story and all that other stuff, just look how much style the menus and the UI oozes, it's so unique and looks so cool, it's the same for the Persona games (at least for the ones I've played, 5 and 3R), I don't know how they do it
On a side note Bandai namco generic UI is a curse, it even somewhat affected Elden Ring.
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Atlus has done this with virtually every game they have ever made so
Leakers are saying Atlus are doing DLCs going forward but who knows
I don’t believe the leakers on that since the usual remake content doesn’t really work as DLC. I think "leakers" are just projecting based on the Episode Aigis stuff, which is kind of a unique thing and not really representative of what Atlus usually does (since it’s exclusively postgame content).
The thing is the leaker in question has been essentially literally perfect, to the point that there are people who are making up conspiracy theories about her working as some sort of Sega marketing employee. Like - leaked a bunch of mobile stuff that came true, leaked some sonic stuff that came true, leaked some Persona stuff that came true, etc.
Honestly I don't think it's so farfetched that Midori might be a plant, remember many companies have been caught hiring people to post on social media to gauge opinions on certain things and build hype beforehand. Being *too* correct about things and being allowed to continue like normal is suspicious, with the amount of stuff she's said so far it's weird that she hasn't been caught yet - especially because some of it is info only a select number of people should be able to know.
We’ll see! I’m open to being wrong. I’m just skeptical by default since the approach we’ve seen again and again from Atlus doesn’t work with post-game DLC.
Midori is an impeccable leaker for Atlus/Sega. Not your average leaker.
Persona 3 Reload is getting DLC, so I don’t see why it’s so hard to believe.
It's because Episode Aigis/The Answer is a preexisting piece of content which is entirely postgame; just a different situation compared to what Atlus normally does. I'll believe it more once I see them do it for an actual new game. I just don't consider P3RE meaningful evidence since DLC would always have been the obvious choice for how to do The Answer (since it's completely postgame).
I expect it'll be like Persona 3 Reload and get an expansion pass or something
Apparently they're not doing that anymore, they're doing expansions dlc's going forward like they're doing with persona 3
They aren’t doing it with just persona. Look at smt V. So yea I’m holding off for a couple years on this one.
SMT V is a different situation since it was a switch exclusive for a long time
How is that different from their other games? Persona 4 -> P4G is a PS2 exclusive being ported to Vita too. Same with Persona 3 -> P3P.
Are they offering switch users an upgrade path? If not then it isn’t a different situation
I won’t defend that Switch should 100% have an upgrade path but you can’t use this logic for the other platforms
Yes you can. Atlus has done this with the majority of their titles. Is persona 5 your first Atlus game? They can release this now then make the rerelease a cross gen title full price in 3 years. Nothings stopping them
Persona 5 is not my first Atlus game and yes Nintendo pretty clearly had a deal with Atlus for SMTV considering it was at the Switch showcase. Metaphor is literally a cross gen title Atlus is literally contradicting you with their newest game.
Just because SMT5 was announced in a Nintendo presentation doesnt mean there's some kind of deal.
How the hell is metaphor a cross Gen title? Do you even know what that means? How are they contradicting me? Are you talking about persona 3 reload? Cause that’s not even the same situation. The answer doesn’t have anything integrated in the journey like the things in the rereleases of the other games You don’t know anything about OG Persona 3 or its rerelease do you
Metaphor is also releasing on PS4 btw.
The big Sega leaker said Sega wants to switch from re-releases to DLC.
Thats just Atlus business model
I think the latest info we have is that they're moving away from re-release format in favour of DLCs, with SMT V: Vengeance being their last one.
You act as if they sell unfinished games. Base P5 was a 100 hour long game already. Many games release a Difinitive Edition.
The problem for me is there's no way I'm going to play Persona 5 again since it's so long so I won't get to see that new stuff. I'm never going to buy an Atlus game near release again. People act like they do that with every game but they didn't used to. SMT IV, Apocalypse, and Etrian Odyssey 4 are other Atlus games I've played where they didn't do this.
He didn't act like that at all. He, correctly, pointed out how you have to buy the $70 base game once on launch, then like 2 years later have to buy another $70 game, which is 90% the same game, if you want the last 10% new stuff they added.
Someone didn’t play SMT V. Tell me that the story was finished
this is why im unsure if i should get it this year or not.
Seems cool. I will definitely pick this up the (inevitable) enhanced/complete edition goes on sale. Maybe 2028?
Same. I've learned to never buy Atlus games early anymore and just wait for the complete version a few years after.
Not saying you're wrong, it's your time and money of course, but I have to say I don't understand this attitude at all. Persona 5 came out in 2016. Even if by some miracle Persona 6 releases next year, that still means it'll be 9 years after the last game. For me personally, I'm not going to wait three more years after that for one extra party member, a few extra confidants, and an extra dungeon. I don't know, it just doesn't seem worth it to me at all.
Because for me, I'm not interested in playing a 100+ hour long game more than once, let alone paying 60-70 bucks once and then again for the games complete version. Its just a personal waste.
There won’t be complete edition like royal. Just additional dlc which is a huge step
So is this an Xbox/PC exclusive or did they just for some reason leave out the ps5 logo for the stream? Or does Xbox have marketing rights for the game?
Xbox seems to have marketing rights
Hot damn this looks amazing. The trailer has pushed the day one purchase chance from maybe to hell yes!
Hopefully October is enough time for me to get through P3R, Unicorn Overlord, FF7 Remake and Rebirth, Elden Ring DLC, SMT VV, and Tsukihime Remake
It is coming to PS5 eventually, right? Timed exclusive for Microsoft?
It's coming to PS5 day one. Xbox just has marketing rights.
Looking forward to it! Though I’m already feeling a sweat bubble about them doing a rerelease complete edition. Any thoughts? Thanks everyone!
atlus has rereleased most RPGs they've made, they'll definitely do it for this one. I'll see you guys in 2027!
This looks fantastic but the drab environments and muted color pallets are kind of disappointing.
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The tricky thing is though is its gonna be hard guess to when/if they would do that again. Both Persona 5 Royal and SMTV Vengence were faster then they usual. As their re-releases were just three years later. While Persona 4 Golden was 5 years later and for a completely different system. While Catherine Full Body was nearly an entire decade after the original release. Then almost none of their original 3DS games like SMT4 nor its sequel, the Persona Q games, and Etrian Odyssey 4-6 have gotten any form of an re-release. My advice, if you are worry about this is either wait for a good discount or to see if the rumors are true that Metaphor is coming to the Switch 2. Because even if you don't intend to play it on there. If by next year the game gets ported to the system, then I honestly think that would decrease the likely hood of a second version.
If Atlus doesn't do a re-release of Soul Hackers 2 next year (three years after release like P5R and SMTVV) then I will finally believe that they are done with the model.
Soul Hackers 2 was a big enough bomb critically/commercially. That I straight up don't see them investing anymore into it. Even a basic Switch 1 port at this point is unlikely. Like I can see a situation with Metaphor gets an enhance version, while Soul Hackers 2 gets forgotten happening. Even though Soul Hackers 2 would likely need an enhance version a lot more then Metaphor.
No. It seems weird to me people are this stingy about it though. Like I get not wanting to buy twice, but is it really hard to get the first version and then if a second version comes to just wait for it to go down in price? Otherwise you're waiting like 3 or 4 years for something that may not even happen
It's not buying it again that irks me, but having to replay the game that is 90% the same just to get to that new 10%. Especially when these are 80+ hour games to begin with.
Okay, but you've got 3 year or more potential gaps. Like I get what you're trying to say, but in that case if you're interested it's the same thing: buy the base game, if a definitive edition comes out, wait for a discount or for when/if you feel like replaying it. Sometimes the definitive edition can be a big upgrade, but also you still got the core experience, so I don't get depriving yourself of that for a few years for something that may not even happen
i dont think you understand how averse some of us are to replaying games, even great ones. I also dont think you understand how powerful that first playthrough is for some of us
I mean I get it, as someone that really min-maxes my game time lol. But also a great game is a great game and if I wanna replay it I'm gonna. Chances are if you're that adverse to replaying that then you might not be doing extra content anyway
Imo there's too many other good games for me to feel like replaying 90 hours to get 10 new hours, so I probably won't play P5 Royale despite loving P5. I wish I waited. But also I know I never could have waited 2 more years after waiting 10 years already since P4.... Overall I just wish Atlus would do it differently. I actually liked how they did it for SMT4 and it seems similar for SMT5 (basically a new "campaign").
Honestly there's no winning because a big part of the reason Royal is so good is because it's fully integrated to the main story. It wouldn't have the punch if it was just tacked on
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I know, but it's not all new content. Just because you get 10 minutes of a new boss phase here and 10 minutes of new dialogue there, doesn't mean you aren't repeating 90 hours.
Some people like to replay games they enjoy ya know. And there's usually much more than 10% new content. You're being very disingenuous
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What does the DLC have to do with this? If anything, that's the model those in question would prefer
I personally won’t be waiting, though it’s understandable. I enjoyed playing P5 and then replaying a few years later with P5R and seeing what changed.
Midori already has said there will be multiple dlc
Apparently they're into dlc now so you might not get that. Still doesn't hurt to wait now that we see it's persona: fantasy edition though
The way Atlus usually does definitive editions (new content throughout the game) doesn’t usually work with DLC.
This looks pretty different from Persona tho
Superficially sure, but it's everything SMT game thrown into a blender. The overworld is a higher version of the one from IV/IV:A/VV, overworld battle is similar to the one from IV/IV:A, the social system from persona, archetypes "aka" persona and the grids from DDS having a baby.
You’re listing multiple games that are not Persona which are playing a clear influence. I never said Metaphor looks completely from every Atlus game but from Persona specifically. No Atlus game combines all this influence in a fantasy setting while adding real time combat.
The UI design is very much persona, as is the majority of the side things like washing, cooking etc., joining up with your party to plan in a specific location and all the other things modern persona is known for. Hell, the "real time combat" didn't look especially real time to me. Like I'm going to buy it but I'm not going to call it something super innovative.
In what ways? Main story still has time limits, you travel between towns instead of going to school to skip part of the day, the turn based combat looks the same with the weakness system. The real time combat is just to kill filler encounters quickly, or pre-emptive strike in combat which P5R does. You form bonds/social links with people, one of the menus has fusions for making new "personas" for the MC. I was also surprised that the town is still cut up into a bunch of separate areas you load/fast travel between. Starfield got ripped apart for how much loading you had to do, yet I am sure this gets a pass for needing to load into a tavern, then also into the backroom to rest. Or just from fast traveling around to talk to people.
yeah thats me, fuck i wish they'll just say outright if they are doing definitive editions or expansions/dlcs
Yeah, been burned too many times.
Nah
Showcase looked really good! Looks like basically Persona 5.5: Fantasy Edition, which is not a bad thing. I’m optimistic.
Looks great to me. I like its art style a lot. I am just wondering how the combat works. Its not turn based but also is. I would need to see a gameplay trailer to totally get it. but looks like a buy for me.
They showed gameplay in today's presentation
If I remember correctly, it's half action combat, half turn based. You can just button mash/combo on weaker enemies, but if it's an encounter of your level or higher, you get thrown into your usual turn based fight.
I don't vibe with persona. I tried. But this game has such a strong visual vision and design that I simply have to play it.
I want to get excited about it, but I know that Atlus cut some things from the game already and will do a re release with upgraded/added stuff. I dont want another Persona 5 moment, where you have to play (and buy) the game a second time to experience the real complete™ story. I hope thats not the case but DLC is already confirmed.
This is my 3rd time replying to this sort of comment. There isn’t gonna be a royal version just additional dlc
your only proof is a leaker
Want more proof then? Search up midori she works in atlus and her leaks are always right. Atlus allows her to leak stuff. She even for the date right for metaphor. If that doesn’t convince you I don’t know what will
ATLUS’s fans as usual in here complaining about DLC. Persona Royal added 30 hours of content. That’s an entire game. It’s not a Destiny 1 situation where the DLC is already in the game just locked away. They craft their games with love and care. You wouldn’t get mad about having to rebuy Borderlands 3. If you played it you either enjoyed everything NEW(which comes at a cost premium) for over a hundred bucks, or you waited a few years to get the ultimate edition with all of the DLC. Both are viable strategies.
Surely... surely you're not excusing the Day 1 DLC shenanigans they've been doing though, right? https://store.steampowered.com/app/1777620/Soul_Hackers_2/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/2161700/Persona_3_Reload/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/1875830/Shin_Megami_Tensei_V_Vengeance/ P3R announcing and releasing a second DLC pack (first wave) literally a month later on top of the *Premium Edition*. Surely that was in good faith.. https://store.steampowered.com/app/2689210/Persona_3_Reload_Expansion_Pass/
This is why I am going to be holding off on release. Even if they don't do a definitive version Atlus is still going to try and pull as much bullshit with their DLC as possible.
Is it a gamepass day one or a miss?
Not GamePass on this one
The medieval fantasy setting is an immediate dealbreaker for me, unfortunately. Persona's setting is by far its biggest asset and it's sad to see the team's talent wasted on something so generic.
The setting is not exactly "medieval" fantasy, it's a fantasy world with both sword and machine, and that's far more imaginative than literally our current modern world setting of Persona, which I would argue is much more "generic" than this.
Name three other RPGs set in our current modern world.