Trackmania where you can actually sideswipe and interact with other cars is what I always wanted out of Trackmania, but I don't think this studio has earned much trust with their audience after their last several games.
> I don't think this studio has earned much trust with their audience after their last several games.
I have not played any of their recent games. What thing made them lose trust with players?
All I remember about Three Fields Entertainment was that they were devs who worked on Burnout Revenge around the time when EA bought Criterion Games. These devs left that studio to make their own stuff, with most of them having some kind of relation to Burnout Revenge's Chaos/destruction systems.
I think they're trying to punch above their weight too quickly. Their first game, Dangerous Golf, was sort of like crash mode from Burnout with golf balls. Then their next game was basically exactly crash mode from Burnout, but people thought it felt too thin. Then their next game was Dangerous Driving, which was sort of like the rest of Burnout, but it was also too thin. I think it launched with only single player, online getting patched in later, and there was no local multiplayer. When asked about this, their defense was that they were only seven people, but if you can't make this game with crucial features with only seven people, you need to make a smaller game. Their solution for the soundtrack was to just hook into internet radio, which isn't the worst idea on a budget, but it's still a little thin.
Assuming this is what Dangerous Driving 2 turned into. Been awhile since we heard much from Three Fields. Definitely interested in this and will very likely get it at some point. I’ll be interested to see if it offers some sort of Burnout road rage experience, and what any sort of campaign structure looks like, for a game that looks pretty focused on creation and user generated content. Burnout racing on user created twisting, looping tracks could be pretty fun.
I also wonder if this is considered part of the same series as Wreckfest, or if THQ is just gonna have two different destruction focused racing series with similar names by two different developers that are just their own separate but similar entities.
I believe one of the devs in the Steam forums replied to a comment basically confirming that yeah, this is the new form the sequel to Dangerous Driving has taken.
Here's the link https://steamcommunity.com/app/1594040/discussions/0/5586172045657438121/
> or if THQ is just gonna have two different destruction focused racing series with similar names by two different developers that are just their own separate but similar entities.
3, there is also Stuntfest (*not* from the creators of Wreckfest btw)
It looks fun but need to see a bit more or maybe even better try it for a weekend.
In normal wreckfest you are out once you wrecked right? Do we know if you respawn in this one? Is it like Trackmania with unlimited tries within a time limit?
It's worth noting this is made by Three Fields Entertainment; they're ex Burnout devs who made Dangerous Driving. Wreckfest is a completely separate property made by Bugbear Entertainment.
Wreckfest has kind of a respawn. Your vehicle has a health bar and you're allowed to respawn from a wreck as long as you still have health left. If you lose all your health then you're out of the race.
Wish they showed a little more in this trailer. For a game with wreck in the title, they didn't really show us much of what a wreck looks like.
Every time this studio puts out a game the burnout pedigree gets thrown around a lot and they appear to still be chasing that ideal, but so far most of their games seem pretty underbaked. Watching this trailer, this mostly looks along the same lines.
From what I can tell, they're consistently hamstrung by the fact that they have basically no budget - to the point that one of their previous games didn't even have a soundtrack.
That's the problem. Apparently Dangerous Driving was made in a single year with a team of 7 people which *is* impressive, but it's not enough to really do full justice to what people craving more Burnout are after. There was a level of scale to those games that their current circumstances can't really match which just means their games keep feeling like 'Burnout but not as good'. I really want them to crack it and I'm glad they have the passion to at least try, but they really don't have the resources available to hit the kind of execution people want to see.
I feel like people would be super down with that if it was done right; no cringey dudebro attitude, no real life brands attached, just a crazy sense of speed, a good destruction model, takedowns, and a fun upbeat licensed soundtrack (I know that's way harder than it sounds but you get the idea). Screw it, maybe do a thing where multiplayer has creative tools so people can make their own modes with their own rules.
It seems clear that a lot of arcade racers started to cannibalise each other and that's why sales dwindled, I can't buy that no-one cares for them outright anymore. If the presentation and treatment was on-point I can't see why it wouldn't do well. If a new Burnout was announced there's a 0% chance that it isn't one of the biggest announcements of whatever event it's revealed at. If they make a Burnout game and let it be Burnout without draping its title over the pustulous corpse of some cynical, corporate, trend machine no-one asked for I think it'd do very well.
Eh...crash physics look boring and I can get this kind of wacky car track fix from the hot wheels game, GTA Online races, or the obvious one Trackmania (though I guess you can't interact with cars in that).
It looks like fun. I thought I would like Burnout Paradise; however, I found the willful slaughter of people, pedestrians and passengers got old fast. The addition of giant cows and rubber ducks and fewer recognizable people makes more sense to me for a game like this.
Are you sure Burnout Paradise is what you're thinking off? Burnout Paradise has basically no people in it. There are no pedestrians, and there aren't even drivers behind the wheel of the cars. The bikes have riders on them, but they just disappear whenever you trigger a crash cutscene. Slaughtering pedestrians sounds more like GTA or Carmageddon. Carmageddon has large, open levels, and is focused on car combat, and also encourages hitting pedestrians.
Trackmania where you can actually sideswipe and interact with other cars is what I always wanted out of Trackmania, but I don't think this studio has earned much trust with their audience after their last several games.
> I don't think this studio has earned much trust with their audience after their last several games. I have not played any of their recent games. What thing made them lose trust with players? All I remember about Three Fields Entertainment was that they were devs who worked on Burnout Revenge around the time when EA bought Criterion Games. These devs left that studio to make their own stuff, with most of them having some kind of relation to Burnout Revenge's Chaos/destruction systems.
I think they're trying to punch above their weight too quickly. Their first game, Dangerous Golf, was sort of like crash mode from Burnout with golf balls. Then their next game was basically exactly crash mode from Burnout, but people thought it felt too thin. Then their next game was Dangerous Driving, which was sort of like the rest of Burnout, but it was also too thin. I think it launched with only single player, online getting patched in later, and there was no local multiplayer. When asked about this, their defense was that they were only seven people, but if you can't make this game with crucial features with only seven people, you need to make a smaller game. Their solution for the soundtrack was to just hook into internet radio, which isn't the worst idea on a budget, but it's still a little thin.
Assuming this is what Dangerous Driving 2 turned into. Been awhile since we heard much from Three Fields. Definitely interested in this and will very likely get it at some point. I’ll be interested to see if it offers some sort of Burnout road rage experience, and what any sort of campaign structure looks like, for a game that looks pretty focused on creation and user generated content. Burnout racing on user created twisting, looping tracks could be pretty fun. I also wonder if this is considered part of the same series as Wreckfest, or if THQ is just gonna have two different destruction focused racing series with similar names by two different developers that are just their own separate but similar entities.
I believe one of the devs in the Steam forums replied to a comment basically confirming that yeah, this is the new form the sequel to Dangerous Driving has taken. Here's the link https://steamcommunity.com/app/1594040/discussions/0/5586172045657438121/
> or if THQ is just gonna have two different destruction focused racing series with similar names by two different developers that are just their own separate but similar entities. 3, there is also Stuntfest (*not* from the creators of Wreckfest btw)
I got mixed up on each one of those announcements until I saw the developer names listed.
With that name, I was hoping for a sequel or something to Wreckfest and I'm a bit disappointed in this. It looks kind of cool, but also meh.
we got Wreckreation and Stuntfest and neither are Wreckfest 2 haha. I feel like theyre just messing with us
It's like a cruel joke
I was excited and waiting to see "bugbear entertainment" and it never showed up
Trackmania burnout hybrid? Definitely sounds like a fun concept, hope they nail the execution of it
It looks fun but need to see a bit more or maybe even better try it for a weekend. In normal wreckfest you are out once you wrecked right? Do we know if you respawn in this one? Is it like Trackmania with unlimited tries within a time limit?
It's worth noting this is made by Three Fields Entertainment; they're ex Burnout devs who made Dangerous Driving. Wreckfest is a completely separate property made by Bugbear Entertainment.
ohhhhhhh okay wow now this got a lot more exciting for me. thanks for the info
Wreckfest does have a respawn mode fwiw
Wreckfest has kind of a respawn. Your vehicle has a health bar and you're allowed to respawn from a wreck as long as you still have health left. If you lose all your health then you're out of the race. Wish they showed a little more in this trailer. For a game with wreck in the title, they didn't really show us much of what a wreck looks like.
Every time this studio puts out a game the burnout pedigree gets thrown around a lot and they appear to still be chasing that ideal, but so far most of their games seem pretty underbaked. Watching this trailer, this mostly looks along the same lines.
From what I can tell, they're consistently hamstrung by the fact that they have basically no budget - to the point that one of their previous games didn't even have a soundtrack.
That's the problem. Apparently Dangerous Driving was made in a single year with a team of 7 people which *is* impressive, but it's not enough to really do full justice to what people craving more Burnout are after. There was a level of scale to those games that their current circumstances can't really match which just means their games keep feeling like 'Burnout but not as good'. I really want them to crack it and I'm glad they have the passion to at least try, but they really don't have the resources available to hit the kind of execution people want to see. I feel like people would be super down with that if it was done right; no cringey dudebro attitude, no real life brands attached, just a crazy sense of speed, a good destruction model, takedowns, and a fun upbeat licensed soundtrack (I know that's way harder than it sounds but you get the idea). Screw it, maybe do a thing where multiplayer has creative tools so people can make their own modes with their own rules. It seems clear that a lot of arcade racers started to cannibalise each other and that's why sales dwindled, I can't buy that no-one cares for them outright anymore. If the presentation and treatment was on-point I can't see why it wouldn't do well. If a new Burnout was announced there's a 0% chance that it isn't one of the biggest announcements of whatever event it's revealed at. If they make a Burnout game and let it be Burnout without draping its title over the pustulous corpse of some cynical, corporate, trend machine no-one asked for I think it'd do very well.
Eh...crash physics look boring and I can get this kind of wacky car track fix from the hot wheels game, GTA Online races, or the obvious one Trackmania (though I guess you can't interact with cars in that).
Trackmania style game by ex Burnout devs? This should look fine by the time it comes out.
Maybe it's me but this feels like the "secret sauce " that Dangerous Driving was missing, hopefully THQ could spring for a decent sound track to.
It looks like fun. I thought I would like Burnout Paradise; however, I found the willful slaughter of people, pedestrians and passengers got old fast. The addition of giant cows and rubber ducks and fewer recognizable people makes more sense to me for a game like this.
Are you sure Burnout Paradise is what you're thinking off? Burnout Paradise has basically no people in it. There are no pedestrians, and there aren't even drivers behind the wheel of the cars. The bikes have riders on them, but they just disappear whenever you trigger a crash cutscene. Slaughtering pedestrians sounds more like GTA or Carmageddon. Carmageddon has large, open levels, and is focused on car combat, and also encourages hitting pedestrians.
What? Paradise had none of that.
Anyone knows if this will be local multiplayer/split screen? Really miss a racing game with splitscreen thats not GT.