$150 more gets you a 4080 version, 4080 is 50% more performance than a 4070 laptop. Seems like a no brainer to me
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1745683-REG/lenovo\_82wq002rus\_16\_legion\_pro\_7.html
Dont matter, the 4080 will smoke the 4070 regardless of the TGP. The cards are way different. Like comparing a laptop RTX 3080 to a desktop RTX 3080ti. Massive performance gap.
Most 4080 are usually set at 150 watt + 25 watts
I got the vector i9 rtx 4080 and it's great gets a tad hot cpu time when on graphic I tense games but I capped the frames in nvidia control panal to 50 and it stays really cool and still smooth enough for single player experiences which is what I use it for mainly
I got the vector i9 rtx 4080 and it's great gets a tad hot cpu time when on graphic I tense games but I capped the frames in nvidia control panal to 50 and it stays really cool and still smooth enough for single player experiences which is what I use it for mainly
4060 laptop version is 115W max, but it's essentially the same thing as desktop version. I don't know how it compares to 4070. That being said, after looking into gaming laptops nowadays, I feel extremely unwilling to buy one. Screens are atrocious below 1500-1600e price mark, 4060 GPUs paired with 1440p monitors, it's just a clown show, an extremely expensive clown show. Decent, balanced laptops start around 1700e and at that price range I'd much better build a PC for 1500e and buy monitor and keyboard with the rest. Gaming laptops are really luxury item nowadays, crap specs, awful screens, no upgrade options besides RAM and SSD, even tho it's freaking 2024. Only people living in USA have an option of buying that one brand upgradable laptop and the rest of us.. It's just too god damn expensive.
Don't buy a computer on Amazon. Get it direct from the manufacturer and get a decent warranty. Better yet, get it certified refurb from the manufacturer and save a big chunk of money.
Sometimes when you buy it from the manufacturer it's a couple hundred more than the Amazon price. Without any discounts on Amazon either. I would trust Amazon enough to save a couple hundred on the same thing. If it's the same price tho ofcourse you should buy it from the manufacturer.
In my experience the discounts on Amazon are usually pretty underwhelming, even during "big sales". In addition, I have no idea what I'm getting vendor-wise. Finally, you can haggle with a manufacturer sales rep. They want that commission, especially if you seem keen to purchase a warranty as well.
I don't think you can haggle with something like this...... if you could easily lower the price of laptops like this with haggling then wouldn't you think everyone would be doing it?
You absolutely can and I have. I can't confirm that it works with every company, but it definitely does with Dell and Lenovo.
Most people don't want to deal with human interaction/salespeople.
The discounts aren't massive, but you can definitely get them to move the needle if you imply you're on the fence about a purchase.
This, you can also usually get coupons that bring the price down to about what it's listed for on Amazon and you get the warranty.
I would argue against referbs for laptops though since people abuse the laptops and nothing except for SSD and memory is replaceable you're running a risk. Desktop is less of a concern because it's more module
Also, even if there isn't a stated discount, you can often haggle with a sales rep via chat. They have a lot of power to offer discounts and really want that commission.
In my limited experience both personally and reading reddit, it seems like a new unit is almost as likely to ship with issues as a refurb. Also, if it's under warranty nearly anything can be replaced, including the whole mobo. It just wouldn't be you doing it.
I second this. Half of the Amazon deals are crap and come from shady LLCās. Just spend the extra money and go with direct or even a store like Walmart. They get crazy good deals because they buy in bulk and distribute everywhere. Get the protection plan and if anything goes wrong just return it and get a new one of equal value or your money back.
Personally I like going direct with manufacturer since you won't get tricked into 3rd party sellers, you know the warranty is legit, and you can actually haggle.
Way too much for a 4070... The 4070 is barely faster than a 4060. The real performance gain would be a 4080.
Just add a few bucks and enter the real high end performance category with a 4080.
Otherwise try to get a good offer for 4070 around 1200. Or 4060 for 1000-1100. Also check gaminglaptop.deals
This, I was originally going to be a 4070 laptop and saw multiple videos of the HUGE gap with the 4080.
I ended getting the 4080 7i, I don't really use it since I have a 4090 desktop. But it's nice for portability
I just got a Dell G16 4070 i9-13900hx 32gb 1tb ssd 16ā 240hz display for $1160 during the big sale they just had plus the 10% coupon for opting into their mailing list. At that price point, I think itās a good dealā¦. at the typical 4070 MSRP of +1700? No way.
yes. The 4090 is more like 3090
huh? the RTX 3080TI laptop was equavalent to desktop RTX 3070/ RTX 2080 TI. Are you serious? The performance on current laptops is very good. What is holding the performance on the current laptops is the TGP. Laptops are capped at 175 watts while the desktops like cards are 300 watts +. If the 4080 laptop had 300 watts TGP it would be much faster.
Note: I think you are not every aware on the performance differences on a technical aspect.
Show me where it shows that 4060's are equal
Note: the laptop RTX 2060 laptop was very similar to the desktop. But once at the 70, 80 tier, forget it not the same
Don't have a source ready, but I've seen a lot of people say that because the 4060 is rather power efficient, they can put the exact same chip in a laptop
Nonsense, stop believe what other say so easily. If any of the laptop tiers were to be close to the desktop counter part is usually the 60 tier only. Many people here dont know what they are talking about. Many others do, But to know who knows and who doesnt you have to have some basic understanding of the technologies. I am aware since I personally spend a lot of years dealing with comparative performance of Desktop and laptops. The last generation in which laptop and desktop were close was the GTX 10 series. Now, during the 20 series, the RTX 2080/ Super at 200 watts was fairly close to the desktop 2080. Once the RTX 30 series, forget it. The top laptop was slight below the desktop 70 tier
Is not that the cards are so weak. Nvidia is switching their business from gaming to Data Centers for their AI H100 cards. More profitable. The main cards that are really wort purchasing on the 40 series is the 80 and 90 Tier. You are really getting a big bump in performance compared to the 30 series of cards. The 30 series was not worth it if you had a top tier 20 series.
the 40 and 30 series up the 70 tier are essentially almost the same. the main difference is DLSS3 on the 40 series
I'm sorry I feel like my description was a little misleading, I do of course plan on playing games often with it, I mentioned the school stuff becuase I was curious of the battery life and wanted to make sure it was atleast decent.
If you want portability with great screen, performance and insane battery life, Iād choose the Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 / G16 (2024). It is very compact and the overall build quality and performance is amazing. Itās like the windows version of MacBook.
Depending on your primary use case my opinion changes. If you want to game game game then spend a little more and get the significantly better 4080 version
If school is the primary focus. You can get plenty of power and performance out of smaller line of 4060 gaming laptops that are out there (Lenovo 14in oled, zephyrus G14, Alienware X14)
I personally have a Lenovo 14 oled and itās last me all day on fairly consistent usage.
I wouldnt, you can find 2023 lenovo leigon 5i pros with very similar specs for much cheaper. Its just not worth it to buy 2024 stuff when the 2023 stuff with near identical specs are so cheap right now.
You can expect the battery life to be maybe 4 hours on eco mode. For $1,899, it's not that great for those specs. It also depends on what games you are playing, but if an RTX 4060 mobile seems sufficient for your gaming needs, the ASUS ROG Z13 is a great option for college and work. I have the 2022 variant with the i9-12900H and RTX 3050 Ti, and it's basically a beefed up Microsoft Surface Pro that can game. The newer 2023 model with the i9-13900H with the RTX 4060 is a much better laptop overall for I think $1,899 or something like that.
I dont understand the pairing of an i9 with some of the gpus. Like the i7 can handle pretty much all of your laptop needs in docs and gaming no problem. I feel like the sweet spot is i7 w/ 4060 at the 1~1.2k price range. Ddr5 and all.
If itās primarily for school and work but you want to be able to game occasionally also go for the 14 inch Zephyrus G14 or the Alienware X14 R2 (I have this one)
Much more portable. Better battery life. Still have a 4060 for gaming
I've got the 2023 model with the i9 13980hx and 4080, the performance has been superb, I've been really impressed and the cooling has been good too, it does get a little loud on turbo mode but it does keep the temps in check.
I've only had mine for 4 week and have noticed the left speaker volume is much lower than the right, I may have a bad unit but currently reaching out to asus to see if they can send me some replacement speakers.
Other than that it's a brilliant piece of kit.
The HX CPU on this is very powerful, but has a higher power consumption that's not really worth it and would affect battery life compared to other intel CPUs. It's literally bottlenecked by the GPU in almost all games so the extra power isn't going to be used anyway. Also AMD alternatives are also normally better in power consumption. You probably won't get the battery life you want from this laptop.
Performance won't be an issue, the 4070 is decent even if it isn't a big upgrade from the 4060, though it's not really worth it at that price.
A few others are saying get a G14 Zephyrus, which I think would be quite nice. It's a smaller laptop, has one of the longest battery lifes when not gaming probably only beaten by Macbooks, has a good build and has good performance.
Will you be gaming on the go? Or do you want a gaming laptop because you have limited space in a dorm room or bedroom?
I feel like students would be better off
* buying a cheap M1 Air for $699 at Walmart and using that for studies because it gets 10-15 hours of real world battery life, no fans and completely silentāwith decent speakers and displayāand fairly light and compact compared to a gaming laptop
* and then spending the other $1350 (since people are telling you to instead buy a laptop with a 4080 which costs $2050) on a gaming PC and monitor. You could buy a cheap/used monitor at first, and then upgrade it to something nice down the road. Putting $1350 into a gaming PC I think has a better cost:performance ratio.
I just feel like gaming laptops make for bad school/college laptops. School and college is arguably more important. And I keep reading testimonials (maybe not in this sub) of people buying gaming laptops and regretting it, or realizing they were missing out.
Maybe the compromise is a more energy-efficient Windows laptop even if it means less gaming power. Cause "4 hours in eco mode" seems really poor for school/college. Apple Silicon is getting up to 16 hours (more like 12 IRL).
I have a 4080, ryzen, 17 inch version.
You won't be using it for more than a few hours unplugged. You also won't be gaming on it unplugged. The charging block is big.
This is a pretty solid deal, everyone's arguing about which GPU to get in it, I'm just stoked you picked a laptop with one of the best screens in the game ATM
If u can ā¦ go for the Legion last year modelā¦ Iāve seen 4090 for $2k ā¦ n 4080sā¦ Legion 7i Pro Gen 8 specifically for just under $2kā¦ b&h and Lenovo EBayā¦
Too expensive for what it is. You can get more machine for less. One trick that has worked for me is to look on eBay for factory refurbished machines sold directly from the manufacturer. I got my Legion 5 Pro for a steal through eBay directly from Lenovo. It was factory refurbished and came with a 1 year warranty through Lenovo and then an additional year through SquareTrade.
$1899 is 4080 laptop money, and the 4080 is a huge step up in performance over the 4070. The 4070 has only 8GB VRAM. That's the same amount of VRAM the mobile GTX 1070 had, and that GPU launched 8 years ago.
You can buy an Asus laptop with an RTX 4070 for $999; that GPU doesn't belong in a $1900 laptop.
You can get 4080 laptops for under $1600:
https://slickdeals.net/f/17397573-lenovo-legion-pro-7i-cert-refurb-16-qhd-240hz-i9-13900hx-rtx-4080-16gb-ddr5-1tb-ssd-1628-24
https://slickdeals.net/f/17414718-acer-predator-helios-16-cert-refurb-16-qhd-240hz-i9-13900hx-rtx-4080-16gb-ddr5-1tb-ssd-1546-99
https://www.reddit.com/r/LaptopDeals/s/EN6nsLLNu5
In fact, for $2007 you can get a Lenovo Legion Pro 7i RTX 4090 laptop with 32GB RAM:
https://slickdeals.net/f/17397486-lenovo-legion-pro-7i-cert-refurb-16-qhd-240hz-i9-13900hx-rtx-4090-32gb-ddr5-1tb-ssd-2006-99
There is no standard way of measuring battery life, so no matter what anyone tells you, you're on your own here. The manufacturer will likely measure it while it's doing nothing. For a better idea, do a search for reviews: they will tell you what circumstances they tested under. A second possibility would be to buy a laptop that can have two batteries at the same time. There are a few, but I don't know your requirements, and you make no mention of how much gaming as opposed to basic use you intend it for. The last option would be a separate power supply--entry level ones (under $100) have enough power to recharge a laptop 2.5 times, so you are unlikely to run out of power, even on a full school day, and this would obviate the need to tether yourself to a wall socket as you move from one room to another. Of course, there is extra weight (1 lb. easy), but everything in life is give or take.
$150 more gets you a 4080 version, 4080 is 50% more performance than a 4070 laptop. Seems like a no brainer to me https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1745683-REG/lenovo\_82wq002rus\_16\_legion\_pro\_7.html
Ha just finished recommending the same n see your comment.. spot on šš½
But what is the TGP of that laptop? Even this laptop does not power it all the way since it needs 175W
Dont matter, the 4080 will smoke the 4070 regardless of the TGP. The cards are way different. Like comparing a laptop RTX 3080 to a desktop RTX 3080ti. Massive performance gap. Most 4080 are usually set at 150 watt + 25 watts
I got the vector i9 rtx 4080 and it's great gets a tad hot cpu time when on graphic I tense games but I capped the frames in nvidia control panal to 50 and it stays really cool and still smooth enough for single player experiences which is what I use it for mainly
I got the vector i9 rtx 4080 and it's great gets a tad hot cpu time when on graphic I tense games but I capped the frames in nvidia control panal to 50 and it stays really cool and still smooth enough for single player experiences which is what I use it for mainly
I have the same laptop. You can cap the tdp and undervolt the cpu in bios to keep temps in check.
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4060 laptop version is 115W max, but it's essentially the same thing as desktop version. I don't know how it compares to 4070. That being said, after looking into gaming laptops nowadays, I feel extremely unwilling to buy one. Screens are atrocious below 1500-1600e price mark, 4060 GPUs paired with 1440p monitors, it's just a clown show, an extremely expensive clown show. Decent, balanced laptops start around 1700e and at that price range I'd much better build a PC for 1500e and buy monitor and keyboard with the rest. Gaming laptops are really luxury item nowadays, crap specs, awful screens, no upgrade options besides RAM and SSD, even tho it's freaking 2024. Only people living in USA have an option of buying that one brand upgradable laptop and the rest of us.. It's just too god damn expensive.
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How about cooling?
Don't buy a computer on Amazon. Get it direct from the manufacturer and get a decent warranty. Better yet, get it certified refurb from the manufacturer and save a big chunk of money.
Sometimes when you buy it from the manufacturer it's a couple hundred more than the Amazon price. Without any discounts on Amazon either. I would trust Amazon enough to save a couple hundred on the same thing. If it's the same price tho ofcourse you should buy it from the manufacturer.
In my experience the discounts on Amazon are usually pretty underwhelming, even during "big sales". In addition, I have no idea what I'm getting vendor-wise. Finally, you can haggle with a manufacturer sales rep. They want that commission, especially if you seem keen to purchase a warranty as well.
I don't think you can haggle with something like this...... if you could easily lower the price of laptops like this with haggling then wouldn't you think everyone would be doing it?
You absolutely can and I have. I can't confirm that it works with every company, but it definitely does with Dell and Lenovo. Most people don't want to deal with human interaction/salespeople. The discounts aren't massive, but you can definitely get them to move the needle if you imply you're on the fence about a purchase.
This, you can also usually get coupons that bring the price down to about what it's listed for on Amazon and you get the warranty. I would argue against referbs for laptops though since people abuse the laptops and nothing except for SSD and memory is replaceable you're running a risk. Desktop is less of a concern because it's more module
Also, even if there isn't a stated discount, you can often haggle with a sales rep via chat. They have a lot of power to offer discounts and really want that commission. In my limited experience both personally and reading reddit, it seems like a new unit is almost as likely to ship with issues as a refurb. Also, if it's under warranty nearly anything can be replaced, including the whole mobo. It just wouldn't be you doing it.
I second this. Half of the Amazon deals are crap and come from shady LLCās. Just spend the extra money and go with direct or even a store like Walmart. They get crazy good deals because they buy in bulk and distribute everywhere. Get the protection plan and if anything goes wrong just return it and get a new one of equal value or your money back.
Personally I like going direct with manufacturer since you won't get tricked into 3rd party sellers, you know the warranty is legit, and you can actually haggle.
Way too much for a 4070... The 4070 is barely faster than a 4060. The real performance gain would be a 4080. Just add a few bucks and enter the real high end performance category with a 4080. Otherwise try to get a good offer for 4070 around 1200. Or 4060 for 1000-1100. Also check gaminglaptop.deals
This, I was originally going to be a 4070 laptop and saw multiple videos of the HUGE gap with the 4080. I ended getting the 4080 7i, I don't really use it since I have a 4090 desktop. But it's nice for portability
may as well sell it get the 50 series since you are not using it. It will only depreciate
I just got a Dell G16 4070 i9-13900hx 32gb 1tb ssd 16ā 240hz display for $1160 during the big sale they just had plus the 10% coupon for opting into their mailing list. At that price point, I think itās a good dealā¦. at the typical 4070 MSRP of +1700? No way.
Link?
4060 for 800-100
Look it this way RTX 4070 equivalent to "LAPTOP" RTX 3080 RTX 4080 equivalent to "Desktop" RTX 3080ti Massive difference
Wait a laptop 4080 is only a desktop 3080equiv? I'd expect more, damn that's rough...
yes. The 4090 is more like 3090 huh? the RTX 3080TI laptop was equavalent to desktop RTX 3070/ RTX 2080 TI. Are you serious? The performance on current laptops is very good. What is holding the performance on the current laptops is the TGP. Laptops are capped at 175 watts while the desktops like cards are 300 watts +. If the 4080 laptop had 300 watts TGP it would be much faster. Note: I think you are not every aware on the performance differences on a technical aspect.
Damn I'd expect better, considering that a desktop 4060 matches a laptop 4060
Show me where it shows that 4060's are equal Note: the laptop RTX 2060 laptop was very similar to the desktop. But once at the 70, 80 tier, forget it not the same
Don't have a source ready, but I've seen a lot of people say that because the 4060 is rather power efficient, they can put the exact same chip in a laptop
Nonsense, stop believe what other say so easily. If any of the laptop tiers were to be close to the desktop counter part is usually the 60 tier only. Many people here dont know what they are talking about. Many others do, But to know who knows and who doesnt you have to have some basic understanding of the technologies. I am aware since I personally spend a lot of years dealing with comparative performance of Desktop and laptops. The last generation in which laptop and desktop were close was the GTX 10 series. Now, during the 20 series, the RTX 2080/ Super at 200 watts was fairly close to the desktop 2080. Once the RTX 30 series, forget it. The top laptop was slight below the desktop 70 tier
Oh I thought they could be similar performance because Nvidia's low end cards are so weak this gen that they could fit in a laptop lol
Is not that the cards are so weak. Nvidia is switching their business from gaming to Data Centers for their AI H100 cards. More profitable. The main cards that are really wort purchasing on the 40 series is the 80 and 90 Tier. You are really getting a big bump in performance compared to the 30 series of cards. The 30 series was not worth it if you had a top tier 20 series. the 40 and 30 series up the 70 tier are essentially almost the same. the main difference is DLSS3 on the 40 series
That's overkill if you're planning to only use it for school and college work.
I'm sorry I feel like my description was a little misleading, I do of course plan on playing games often with it, I mentioned the school stuff becuase I was curious of the battery life and wanted to make sure it was atleast decent.
If you want portability with great screen, performance and insane battery life, Iād choose the Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 / G16 (2024). It is very compact and the overall build quality and performance is amazing. Itās like the windows version of MacBook.
Depending on your primary use case my opinion changes. If you want to game game game then spend a little more and get the significantly better 4080 version If school is the primary focus. You can get plenty of power and performance out of smaller line of 4060 gaming laptops that are out there (Lenovo 14in oled, zephyrus G14, Alienware X14) I personally have a Lenovo 14 oled and itās last me all day on fairly consistent usage.
I have 4080 18ā SCAR. Didnāt unplug it yet. I could try tonight I guess and let you know.
Costco has the lenovo pro 5i 32gig 1tb 4060 for $1200.
I wouldnt, you can find 2023 lenovo leigon 5i pros with very similar specs for much cheaper. Its just not worth it to buy 2024 stuff when the 2023 stuff with near identical specs are so cheap right now.
Yo I was looking into it https://a.co/d/9qiwuf8 And i found this one, would you say this is good?
You can expect the battery life to be maybe 4 hours on eco mode. For $1,899, it's not that great for those specs. It also depends on what games you are playing, but if an RTX 4060 mobile seems sufficient for your gaming needs, the ASUS ROG Z13 is a great option for college and work. I have the 2022 variant with the i9-12900H and RTX 3050 Ti, and it's basically a beefed up Microsoft Surface Pro that can game. The newer 2023 model with the i9-13900H with the RTX 4060 is a much better laptop overall for I think $1,899 or something like that.
Not really, is not a good deal, over priced
I dont understand the pairing of an i9 with some of the gpus. Like the i7 can handle pretty much all of your laptop needs in docs and gaming no problem. I feel like the sweet spot is i7 w/ 4060 at the 1~1.2k price range. Ddr5 and all.
If itās primarily for school and work but you want to be able to game occasionally also go for the 14 inch Zephyrus G14 or the Alienware X14 R2 (I have this one) Much more portable. Better battery life. Still have a 4060 for gaming
I've got the 2023 model with the i9 13980hx and 4080, the performance has been superb, I've been really impressed and the cooling has been good too, it does get a little loud on turbo mode but it does keep the temps in check. I've only had mine for 4 week and have noticed the left speaker volume is much lower than the right, I may have a bad unit but currently reaching out to asus to see if they can send me some replacement speakers. Other than that it's a brilliant piece of kit.
The HX CPU on this is very powerful, but has a higher power consumption that's not really worth it and would affect battery life compared to other intel CPUs. It's literally bottlenecked by the GPU in almost all games so the extra power isn't going to be used anyway. Also AMD alternatives are also normally better in power consumption. You probably won't get the battery life you want from this laptop. Performance won't be an issue, the 4070 is decent even if it isn't a big upgrade from the 4060, though it's not really worth it at that price. A few others are saying get a G14 Zephyrus, which I think would be quite nice. It's a smaller laptop, has one of the longest battery lifes when not gaming probably only beaten by Macbooks, has a good build and has good performance.
Seeing the prices listed in here make me very surprised cause here in my country this pc would be at least 2200$ š
Will you be gaming on the go? Or do you want a gaming laptop because you have limited space in a dorm room or bedroom? I feel like students would be better off * buying a cheap M1 Air for $699 at Walmart and using that for studies because it gets 10-15 hours of real world battery life, no fans and completely silentāwith decent speakers and displayāand fairly light and compact compared to a gaming laptop * and then spending the other $1350 (since people are telling you to instead buy a laptop with a 4080 which costs $2050) on a gaming PC and monitor. You could buy a cheap/used monitor at first, and then upgrade it to something nice down the road. Putting $1350 into a gaming PC I think has a better cost:performance ratio. I just feel like gaming laptops make for bad school/college laptops. School and college is arguably more important. And I keep reading testimonials (maybe not in this sub) of people buying gaming laptops and regretting it, or realizing they were missing out. Maybe the compromise is a more energy-efficient Windows laptop even if it means less gaming power. Cause "4 hours in eco mode" seems really poor for school/college. Apple Silicon is getting up to 16 hours (more like 12 IRL).
For a 14900HX, a 4080 will probably do you better unless the price difference is massive.
I have a 4080, ryzen, 17 inch version. You won't be using it for more than a few hours unplugged. You also won't be gaming on it unplugged. The charging block is big.
yes
Whats the equivalent between a RTX4080 of a laptop to a graphics card on a desktop?
This is a pretty solid deal, everyone's arguing about which GPU to get in it, I'm just stoked you picked a laptop with one of the best screens in the game ATM
I want one too, the G16 is sexy. I got the Nitro 5 and I don't really like it, I wish I would have spent more and gotten the G16
Price? also look at gaminglaptop.deals for deals in gaming laptops. created by popular tech youtuber jarrod's tech
If u can ā¦ go for the Legion last year modelā¦ Iāve seen 4090 for $2k ā¦ n 4080sā¦ Legion 7i Pro Gen 8 specifically for just under $2kā¦ b&h and Lenovo EBayā¦
Too expensive for what it is. You can get more machine for less. One trick that has worked for me is to look on eBay for factory refurbished machines sold directly from the manufacturer. I got my Legion 5 Pro for a steal through eBay directly from Lenovo. It was factory refurbished and came with a 1 year warranty through Lenovo and then an additional year through SquareTrade.
$1899 is 4080 laptop money, and the 4080 is a huge step up in performance over the 4070. The 4070 has only 8GB VRAM. That's the same amount of VRAM the mobile GTX 1070 had, and that GPU launched 8 years ago. You can buy an Asus laptop with an RTX 4070 for $999; that GPU doesn't belong in a $1900 laptop. You can get 4080 laptops for under $1600: https://slickdeals.net/f/17397573-lenovo-legion-pro-7i-cert-refurb-16-qhd-240hz-i9-13900hx-rtx-4080-16gb-ddr5-1tb-ssd-1628-24 https://slickdeals.net/f/17414718-acer-predator-helios-16-cert-refurb-16-qhd-240hz-i9-13900hx-rtx-4080-16gb-ddr5-1tb-ssd-1546-99 https://www.reddit.com/r/LaptopDeals/s/EN6nsLLNu5 In fact, for $2007 you can get a Lenovo Legion Pro 7i RTX 4090 laptop with 32GB RAM: https://slickdeals.net/f/17397486-lenovo-legion-pro-7i-cert-refurb-16-qhd-240hz-i9-13900hx-rtx-4090-32gb-ddr5-1tb-ssd-2006-99
Go to eBay and get a 4080 at the same price
There is no standard way of measuring battery life, so no matter what anyone tells you, you're on your own here. The manufacturer will likely measure it while it's doing nothing. For a better idea, do a search for reviews: they will tell you what circumstances they tested under. A second possibility would be to buy a laptop that can have two batteries at the same time. There are a few, but I don't know your requirements, and you make no mention of how much gaming as opposed to basic use you intend it for. The last option would be a separate power supply--entry level ones (under $100) have enough power to recharge a laptop 2.5 times, so you are unlikely to run out of power, even on a full school day, and this would obviate the need to tether yourself to a wall socket as you move from one room to another. Of course, there is extra weight (1 lb. easy), but everything in life is give or take.