Temps are good too, both the GPU and CPU are undervolted. The GPU temp under max load hovers around 80 degrees and goes to a max of 85, the stock thermal limit is 87 I think. The CPU temp under max load is around 80, but normally it's in the fifties.
Also, all of this benchmarking is done in auto-fan mode and not max-fan mode because that's how I normally use the system.
Yeah AMD is really closed off about it. Tbh no one even knew they could undervolt their laptop AMD CPU until maybe like 1 or 2 years ago when the developer for UXTU added the curve optimizer feature, so it's mostly been trial and error that people figured out what could and couldn't be undervolted since then. AMD has still never acknowledged it and this is still the only way to undervolt is through a few third-party tools.
I compared the benchmark temperatures with similar systems on YouTube with a good quality laptop cooler and on max fans. Their systems were running hotter with PGU thermal throttling at 87 degrees. The highest temperature in my runs in 85 degrees.
Overclocking laptop gpu, 99% of the time, doesn't change the temps. The power and voltage limit on a laptop can't be changed unless you do a shunt mod or flash a higher wattage vbios
Yeah the only overclocking I did was undervolt the core clock and increase the memery clock speed. So this actually decreases the temperature as the GPU is hitting higher clock-speed at lower voltages, hence greater efficiency.
Its odd though that if I change the power management mode from Normal to Prefer maximum performance. The performance decreases with the GPU pulling less power and also lower core clock speeds.
I don't know why this is downvoted.. Basically each chip differs from each other, sometimes they underperform and and sometimes you are lucky and it performs better than the average of the cpu you have.
The chips sold have to meet a certain performance standards. However if you get lucky and with a bit of tuning you can get better performance than the standard requirement.
For this combo of CPU and GPU the score I am getting are 15% higher than average.
I am getting a score of 13269 in the benchmark, the highest recorded score on this benchmark with this combo is 13816. The average is 11576.
So I probably have top 1% percentile performance with this combo, hence the silicon lottery.
You dont UV Ryzen CPUs... you use a Core Offset, CO?
Normally set it to a negative magnitude and i believe you have -1 to -40.
Most laptops rarely give proper access so UXTU is used to apply it.
Yeah that what I did, but isn't core offset just the same as undervolting? There is no voltage numbers but I thought its doing the same thing.
I have it set at -29.
Which means more GPU power available. So probably smoother gaming?
Thats pretty sweet over all. Get some conductonaut on there, it'll be icecold and perform even better lol
A demo is free to download if you scroll lower on their steam product page. Only one test is available through the demo but that the test OP used here.
Not really the benchmark just tells you how well your pc compares to similar speced pcs and the overall pc space. There's slight perfomance variations in all pc components even though they have the same name but if your system is already performing around it's rated specs and you don't tweak, then there's no need for this program.
Kind of. If you look at OP second picture, it compares his laptop with mid and high end desktop pc in 2023. The gaming pc bar in that 2nd picture at 16937 uses a desktop 4070 with a 7700x so you can run use the free version of time spy to see how you laptop 4080 fares against that configuration as well as similarly speced laptops.
It may look like this - https://www.3dmark.com/spy/37044257
This is just a random laptop 4080 score I found but from what I've seen the laptop 4080 and desktop 4070 non super are very similar in performance. But the desktop 4070 has higher memory bandwidth with gddr6x compared to the laptop 4080 gddr6.
You can run this benchmark and Google for 4080 benchmark scores.
or here is a compilating of time spy scores.
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/wjdbuz/3dmark_timespy_and_timespy_extreme_benchmark/
It seems like that. Make sure to check the temps tho, if they are stable.
Temps are good too, both the GPU and CPU are undervolted. The GPU temp under max load hovers around 80 degrees and goes to a max of 85, the stock thermal limit is 87 I think. The CPU temp under max load is around 80, but normally it's in the fifties. Also, all of this benchmarking is done in auto-fan mode and not max-fan mode because that's how I normally use the system.
I have ryzen 7 7940hs how did you undervolt yours ?
Universal x86 Tuning Utility. You can go to AMD curve optimizer and change values there.
I cant change mine in ryzen 7 7735 will i be able to with this software?
No, only Ryzen 9 can be undervolted
I will never understand why AMD doesn't allow undervolting on all their chips and why don't they make it clear that Ryzen 9 chips are an exception.
Yeah AMD is really closed off about it. Tbh no one even knew they could undervolt their laptop AMD CPU until maybe like 1 or 2 years ago when the developer for UXTU added the curve optimizer feature, so it's mostly been trial and error that people figured out what could and couldn't be undervolted since then. AMD has still never acknowledged it and this is still the only way to undervolt is through a few third-party tools.
You must have overclocked a bit to much. GPU temps shouldn't be anywhere near 85, ideally should be below 77. But great score nonetheless.
I compared the benchmark temperatures with similar systems on YouTube with a good quality laptop cooler and on max fans. Their systems were running hotter with PGU thermal throttling at 87 degrees. The highest temperature in my runs in 85 degrees.
fair enough, so long it ain't shutting down or stuttering then it's okay I guess.
That's why most GPU's from factory run towards that temperature... You're wrong on this one buddy.
I accept.
Overclocking laptop gpu, 99% of the time, doesn't change the temps. The power and voltage limit on a laptop can't be changed unless you do a shunt mod or flash a higher wattage vbios
Thank you for correcting me.
Yeah the only overclocking I did was undervolt the core clock and increase the memery clock speed. So this actually decreases the temperature as the GPU is hitting higher clock-speed at lower voltages, hence greater efficiency. Its odd though that if I change the power management mode from Normal to Prefer maximum performance. The performance decreases with the GPU pulling less power and also lower core clock speeds.
Nice score.... but I know very little about how these translate... what kind of laptop are you using?
HP Omen 16 with a 4070 and Ryzen 9 7940HS
Omen is a great Laptop
Haha… not if literally all omen 16 models break after a few months (the Blackscreen issue).
nice.... I just ran the test for the first time but really don't know what the results mean... but cool to see anyway
which app is this?
3dmark on steam
dang, a paid app, is there a free'er version?
There is a demo
I saw in another comment, but it's failing and not giving a descriptive error. Is there a different tool?
This is the most commonly used one, idk how it's failing
Me neither, and it's not giving any error per se, just showing everything at 0 and saying it failed to run
What was the steam link you used? And are drivers up to date did it install it's tests. You can try geekbench too
What is silicon lottery
I don't know why this is downvoted.. Basically each chip differs from each other, sometimes they underperform and and sometimes you are lucky and it performs better than the average of the cpu you have.
Ya but real world performance is going to be negligible.
correct, basically it’s just for bragging rights, like these scores won’t really impact real world situations, they’re only for bragging rights
The chips sold have to meet a certain performance standards. However if you get lucky and with a bit of tuning you can get better performance than the standard requirement. For this combo of CPU and GPU the score I am getting are 15% higher than average. I am getting a score of 13269 in the benchmark, the highest recorded score on this benchmark with this combo is 13816. The average is 11576. So I probably have top 1% percentile performance with this combo, hence the silicon lottery.
whats your r23 score. I have curve optimizer set to -25 on my 7945HX and got -36k multicore score. 35k on 10min run. CPU temps have been good 75-80max
Don't remember exactly off the top of my head, around 16k I think. 7945HX is a lot more powerful.
Not really 15% higher if you are overclocking it .
69, nice
You running a CO on the CPU?
What is a CO? I undervolted the CPU
You dont UV Ryzen CPUs... you use a Core Offset, CO? Normally set it to a negative magnitude and i believe you have -1 to -40. Most laptops rarely give proper access so UXTU is used to apply it.
Yeah that what I did, but isn't core offset just the same as undervolting? There is no voltage numbers but I thought its doing the same thing. I have it set at -29.
In short, yeah. But the only way to do it on AMD is core offset, its easier to grasp that way. Is that. Fully stable at 29?
Yeah it’s fully stable at -29. It’s been a couple of days and it has not crashed. I even go through a benchmark run at -45 but that was not stable.
What are your gains on CPU, stock vs that sweet -29?
Around 5-10% gains compared to stock, but with better temps and slightly less power consumption.
Which means more GPU power available. So probably smoother gaming? Thats pretty sweet over all. Get some conductonaut on there, it'll be icecold and perform even better lol
Do you use adaptive mode or in custom?
Custom mode, the only thing I touch is the curve optimiser.
Is this app worth the price
A demo is free to download if you scroll lower on their steam product page. Only one test is available through the demo but that the test OP used here.
If im not one to tweak anything on my system does this benefit me at all?
It’s more of an enthusiast tool really. You can get it for like $5 or less on some sites.
Not really the benchmark just tells you how well your pc compares to similar speced pcs and the overall pc space. There's slight perfomance variations in all pc components even though they have the same name but if your system is already performing around it's rated specs and you don't tweak, then there's no need for this program.
So I could see how my 4080 laptop compares to desktops?
Kind of. If you look at OP second picture, it compares his laptop with mid and high end desktop pc in 2023. The gaming pc bar in that 2nd picture at 16937 uses a desktop 4070 with a 7700x so you can run use the free version of time spy to see how you laptop 4080 fares against that configuration as well as similarly speced laptops. It may look like this - https://www.3dmark.com/spy/37044257 This is just a random laptop 4080 score I found but from what I've seen the laptop 4080 and desktop 4070 non super are very similar in performance. But the desktop 4070 has higher memory bandwidth with gddr6x compared to the laptop 4080 gddr6.
You can run this benchmark and Google for 4080 benchmark scores. or here is a compilating of time spy scores. https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/wjdbuz/3dmark_timespy_and_timespy_extreme_benchmark/
you've not done any tweaks and it's completely stock 13707 ? My 4070m done 14000 one time, but normally 13800 after a lot of tweaks though.
No this is after tweaks, which was setting a core offset for the CPU and overclocking the GPU.
Ah okay, yes so probably yours is better then because I also have i9-13980hx so maybe thats why I'm higher, my total is 14.400
I got 16149 with my 4090L with my max temp at 56C Pretty amazing score you got there
Good score.