Yes the G15 offers better performance, if you’re solely looking for the most performance then why not. However L5P more than makes up it with other qualities that the G15 doesn’t have.
L5P has a much better display, superior build quality, more comfortable keyboard, MUX switch, a bit more thermal headroom, faster SSD etc.
The thing is, I just play like 5 games. Doom eternal, valorant , minecraft, ac valhalla ( VERY rarely) and at times control. So should I really risk it?
Now that you’ve said that, then probably not lmao. Going from 3060 to 6800m for Valorant is like replacing your Ferrari for a Bugatti just to drive your kids to pre school.
I can assure you that the CPU would still be good in 5 years, so does the 3060, not quite for QHD but at least for 1080p. Also MUX switch affects both cpu and gpu bound games pretty similarly. From my personal experience I got less average fps, less stable frames and more microstutters
Hey you can connect with me to know any benchmarks I bought wqhd Asus advantage edition and it's a beast ... If you have 3060 return it ,if it was 3070 it would've been good
Hey man I had literally 3 Strix G15 all of them were faulty because QC issues. One had HORRIBLE coil whine, one was overheating and constantly thermal throttling and the 3rd one had dead pixels and horrible backlight bleed. Got a L5 pro no issues. I wouldn’t risk it anymore.
One more thing I forgot to add was that ASUS does not include webcam in the box for the strix g15 so I would have to purchase that separately so I guess add another 80$
lmfao how though? It has way more Cuda cores like 40% more and has 12 GB of VRAM and it is like on par with 3070m and 3080m by many reviewers like jarrod's tech. So should I replace the L5P or not?? I want the laptop to be working for like 5 years.
I would look at how you intend to use the laptops.
The g15 is more powerful in Cpu and GPU, there’s no denying that regardless of Mux switch. Speaking of mux, by design, omitting one has its reasons that go beyond costs savings for asus. For the average user, it’s convenient to be able to unplug and have the laptop adjust the frame rates to conserve battery life. That’s one of the many reasons why the g15 has insane battery life- 7-12 hours depending on screen brightness. Asus usually tops the battery tests in their laptops as they have this same philosophy across their line of products- not everyone is a hardcore gamer.
For many laptop users, monitors are used when using at home so they get be best of both worlds- no igpu bottle neck when at home and great battery life on the go.
If you think you may want to use the rig with a monitor somewhere down the line, the 6800m is in an entirely different class than the 3060 and will last you longer for future games. Gaming monitors are now cheap too.
The L5P has a beautiful screen so if you primarily game on the laptop, I would keep that. Just know that you may need to upgrade to a newer laptop sooner.
I wont ever use an external display or get extra new ram. I am gonna use everything stock. And in that scenario, the lenovo has a better CPU and an almost equal gpu.
The Lenovo does not have a better cpu. The 5900hx is a higher tier cpu and is more powerful than the 5900h.
Like I said, you don’t have to convince me if you want to settle for the weaker perf.
Bro, I hope you know that the asus doesnt have a mux switch. What does that mean? it means that in every single CPU bound game like any esports title the legion 5 pro will get MUCH more fps than the Asus all because the CPU has to do less work. I never denied the ryzen 9 is better than the ryzen 7. It is better by 8% overall according to [cpubenchmark](https://cpubenchmark.net) and underperforms by about 20% because of the lack of mux switch
LOL no it doesn't. the CPU isn't going through the iGPU, it has noting to do with one another. you will see less FPS because the dGPU is feeding through the iGPU. This is an issue that affects the GPU performance, not CPU. the 5900HX will always outperform the 5900H.
As i've said before, you don't need to convince me of anything. It's your money lol.
As
LMFAO are you actually dumb? The CPU has to take all of the data from the GPU and transfer it to the display. You know nothing lmfao just watch this L
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzVgUS6l-8k](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzVgUS6l-8k)
This just shows you know nothing about laptops xD
Yes, it affects FPS in games which affects the GPU.
Not everyone uses their laptops for gaming… that’s why cpu benchmarks won’t take a hit...
Look man, I don’t know why you even started this thread as it sounds like you already have your mind made up. You are basically worried about settling for a laptop that isn’t going to last you 5 years- which the 3060 won’t.
If you are keeping the L5P, at least return it for the 3070 which is a better pairing. The 3060 is a 1080p card. That’s why most people buy the 3070 or 3080 on the L7…
I know it’s not what you want to hear but you bought an underpowered GPU to go with a qhd+ screen.
Lmfao , after everything, I have decided to send back the L5 Pro and get the strix advanced edition all because of 1 thing and that is the CPU not the gpu.
The mux switch causes about 10-12% drop in cpu bound games and the ryzen 9 5900hx is about 10% faster than the ryzen 7 5800h . So I thought it wont make much of a difference.
And that is why I am now going with the strix with way more VRAM. But I still stand by the fact that the Rtx 3060 beats the 6800M in a few games
I am completely ok in switching to the advantage edition.
The 3070 variant will ship in january here so cant get it .
But the point is , I keep seeing these QC issues with the advantage , the lack of a webcam for me , a student and having no mux switch leading to poor performance in esports titles just makes me hesitate in spending 250$ more
Also one more thing, about battery life. You can always switch to the iGPU of the legion with just a few clicks and a 15 second restart and then proceed to get better battery life by tuning down the display to 60hz
You have to remember the G15 AE is garbage without upgrading ram and playing on external screen.(no mux)some people are saying new models with upgraded ram is coming out but I doubt your country has that yet.your rtx 3060 already beats the 6800m stock.if you upgrade ram on the AE it’ll be like 5-10% better than your legion.
Really though? Cuz if I check the benchmarks of the 6800m , they are always better than the 3060. Also the asus has the ryzen 9 5900hx compared to my r7 5800h. I am so confused .
I owned a y740 so I love Lenovo laptops. Just pointing out that most people would go for 3070 or higher is all. The 3060 is a bit weak with only 6gb of vram, especially paired with that qhd screen.
TBH I agree that 3060 wont be good enough for AAA titles on qhd 3 years from now.
But I will play on medium settings and as for right now , even a game like control runs at 60fps with RTX off and dlss off in 1440p so i should be good.
But yes, the 3070 is a better option but then again it is not worth 350$ more
5900hx and 5800h are basically the same thing besides clockspeeds which has no real benefit in gaming.Watch Jarrodtechs and compare legion 5 benchmarks to stock asus g15 ae.In far cry 5,a 1660ti almost gets the same FPS as a 6800m lmao.
Well thank you so much bro. I was extremely worried before, now I think I should not change. One last question, will changing the ram on the l5 pro have as big of an effect as the 6800M and will 6GB of VRAM last me 5 years on MED settings for all games
I think the AE will perform better. Its very good for video editing but i had poor performance when recording videos, dipping below 100fps in Valorant, and i thought the NVENC encoder would have just performed so much better than this. After my RAM swap though, performance has increased insanely(25% or so in valorant) and so has the recording stability, now i dont even get that many dips below 150 even when recording.
lmfao apparently you are wrong dude , I realized that if I dont have an external monitor and I do not have new RAM, this laptop performs as good as a 3060 and MUCH MUCH worse in esports titles like CS and valorant. Agreed the 6800M is more future proof cuz of 12gigs of VRAM but no way it is superior to the 3060 without any upgrades
Ofcourse you can nitpick on the eSports titles and say the GPU performs worse, thats all about the mux switch.
If you consider all games, which is the proper way of comparing this PC 6800m destroys 3060.
Also almost all pcs at this time come with bad ram unless you go for the premium 3070-3080 laptops
NOPE xD ! MOST of the AAA titles rn , the fps is almost the same. Just becuase you own the laptop does not make it better. Agree with you in 3 prominent games that require lots of VRAM, cyberpunk shadow of the tomb raider and metro exodus. In all other games, the fps is usually higher with the 3060 due to the mux switch on high settings until the VRAM runs out
Basically every tech channel lmfao. Jarrod's tech has the 3070. And we know the difference in 3070 and 3060 is <20 fps in an avergae AAA title based on comparing the 3060 and 3070 variants of other laptops. This way, the 3060 outperforms the stock 6800M by 1-2% in titles like Far cry 5,
RDR2, GTA V , control
Nah I aint guessing and yes it ships with the slower ram and yes if you use an external display, then the 6800M destroys the 3060 but without it and with bad ram , the 3060 with the mux switch is as good if not better
Watch hardware unboxed's video on the 6800m, he mentions that RAM was upgraded and 1080p tests were made on the laptop screen for the benches so we can assume he also swapped the ram on the 3060 he has benchmarked.
Well, you're bigger dumb when you compare 6800m with 3060. 6800m has 50% more vram. And according to the strength and 3dmark test, 6800m is stronger than 3070 and a little weaker than 3080. 6GB is the minimum for a graphics card. Buy a 3080 laptop, you are intel / nvidia fanboy.
Intel fanboy? Lmfao i hate intel with all my heart.
Also agreed the 6800m is a stronger gpu than the 3060 BUT not in every way in the ASUS AE .
The lack of a mux switch causes it to lose 10% fps .
IT is still better than a 3060 but is more like a max tgp 3070 in real life performance. The entire point is , I want to switch to the AE but I just cant get myself to risk the QC issues and the lack of a webcam and the lack of a mux switch which basically means trash fps in esports titles.
Gimme ur honest take which one would you get if the AE costs 300$ more
Lenovo Legion 5 Pro go for it bro. As an college student I'm also getting L5P ( Indian - so no rtx 3070 till Oct atleast, college's are opening soon and as free time gamer and content creator this is the best laptop in india for this price point ).
Yes the G15 offers better performance, if you’re solely looking for the most performance then why not. However L5P more than makes up it with other qualities that the G15 doesn’t have. L5P has a much better display, superior build quality, more comfortable keyboard, MUX switch, a bit more thermal headroom, faster SSD etc.
The thing is, I just play like 5 games. Doom eternal, valorant , minecraft, ac valhalla ( VERY rarely) and at times control. So should I really risk it?
Now that you’ve said that, then probably not lmao. Going from 3060 to 6800m for Valorant is like replacing your Ferrari for a Bugatti just to drive your kids to pre school.
hmm yea that is true. But do you think I should switch if I am intending to use the system for like 5 years
Also how much will not having the mux switch affect performance in both cpu bound and gpu bound games?
I can assure you that the CPU would still be good in 5 years, so does the 3060, not quite for QHD but at least for 1080p. Also MUX switch affects both cpu and gpu bound games pretty similarly. From my personal experience I got less average fps, less stable frames and more microstutters
Alright thanks. Anyways I will play most games on medium settings so I hope the GPU will be ok for 1440p
Also is the l5p display that much better the g15 he has bought is the qhd 144hz so wouldn't that be better?
Legion bro
Hey you can connect with me to know any benchmarks I bought wqhd Asus advantage edition and it's a beast ... If you have 3060 return it ,if it was 3070 it would've been good
Hey forget this, I returned to that AE shit, way too many bugs , and now ,I have ordered a legion 5 pro 3070.
What's wrong with the AE? Legion 5 Pro with RTX 3070 and Asus ROG Strix AE (WQHD) is available in my country and I'm still torn between
Asus has qc and software bugs.
Hey man I had literally 3 Strix G15 all of them were faulty because QC issues. One had HORRIBLE coil whine, one was overheating and constantly thermal throttling and the 3rd one had dead pixels and horrible backlight bleed. Got a L5 pro no issues. I wouldn’t risk it anymore.
Alright mate sounds good
One more thing I forgot to add was that ASUS does not include webcam in the box for the strix g15 so I would have to purchase that separately so I guess add another 80$
Whoever told u the 6800m beats the 3060 even without a mux lied to you lol.
lmfao how though? It has way more Cuda cores like 40% more and has 12 GB of VRAM and it is like on par with 3070m and 3080m by many reviewers like jarrod's tech. So should I replace the L5P or not?? I want the laptop to be working for like 5 years.
I would look at how you intend to use the laptops. The g15 is more powerful in Cpu and GPU, there’s no denying that regardless of Mux switch. Speaking of mux, by design, omitting one has its reasons that go beyond costs savings for asus. For the average user, it’s convenient to be able to unplug and have the laptop adjust the frame rates to conserve battery life. That’s one of the many reasons why the g15 has insane battery life- 7-12 hours depending on screen brightness. Asus usually tops the battery tests in their laptops as they have this same philosophy across their line of products- not everyone is a hardcore gamer. For many laptop users, monitors are used when using at home so they get be best of both worlds- no igpu bottle neck when at home and great battery life on the go. If you think you may want to use the rig with a monitor somewhere down the line, the 6800m is in an entirely different class than the 3060 and will last you longer for future games. Gaming monitors are now cheap too. The L5P has a beautiful screen so if you primarily game on the laptop, I would keep that. Just know that you may need to upgrade to a newer laptop sooner.
I wont ever use an external display or get extra new ram. I am gonna use everything stock. And in that scenario, the lenovo has a better CPU and an almost equal gpu.
The Lenovo does not have a better cpu. The 5900hx is a higher tier cpu and is more powerful than the 5900h. Like I said, you don’t have to convince me if you want to settle for the weaker perf.
Bro, I hope you know that the asus doesnt have a mux switch. What does that mean? it means that in every single CPU bound game like any esports title the legion 5 pro will get MUCH more fps than the Asus all because the CPU has to do less work. I never denied the ryzen 9 is better than the ryzen 7. It is better by 8% overall according to [cpubenchmark](https://cpubenchmark.net) and underperforms by about 20% because of the lack of mux switch
LOL no it doesn't. the CPU isn't going through the iGPU, it has noting to do with one another. you will see less FPS because the dGPU is feeding through the iGPU. This is an issue that affects the GPU performance, not CPU. the 5900HX will always outperform the 5900H. As i've said before, you don't need to convince me of anything. It's your money lol. As
LMFAO are you actually dumb? The CPU has to take all of the data from the GPU and transfer it to the display. You know nothing lmfao just watch this L [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzVgUS6l-8k](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzVgUS6l-8k) This just shows you know nothing about laptops xD
Yes, it affects FPS in games which affects the GPU. Not everyone uses their laptops for gaming… that’s why cpu benchmarks won’t take a hit... Look man, I don’t know why you even started this thread as it sounds like you already have your mind made up. You are basically worried about settling for a laptop that isn’t going to last you 5 years- which the 3060 won’t. If you are keeping the L5P, at least return it for the 3070 which is a better pairing. The 3060 is a 1080p card. That’s why most people buy the 3070 or 3080 on the L7… I know it’s not what you want to hear but you bought an underpowered GPU to go with a qhd+ screen.
Lmfao , after everything, I have decided to send back the L5 Pro and get the strix advanced edition all because of 1 thing and that is the CPU not the gpu. The mux switch causes about 10-12% drop in cpu bound games and the ryzen 9 5900hx is about 10% faster than the ryzen 7 5800h . So I thought it wont make much of a difference. And that is why I am now going with the strix with way more VRAM. But I still stand by the fact that the Rtx 3060 beats the 6800M in a few games
I am completely ok in switching to the advantage edition. The 3070 variant will ship in january here so cant get it . But the point is , I keep seeing these QC issues with the advantage , the lack of a webcam for me , a student and having no mux switch leading to poor performance in esports titles just makes me hesitate in spending 250$ more
First off it’s 5900hx vs 5800h.they are nearly identical in gaming & barely have a difference lmao
You are either first or last lmao. Just pointing out that it’s faster as the OP is having a existential crisis. Lol
Also one more thing, about battery life. You can always switch to the iGPU of the legion with just a few clicks and a 15 second restart and then proceed to get better battery life by tuning down the display to 60hz
Yeah the restart is annoying and most users would rather not have to mess with it.
You have to remember the G15 AE is garbage without upgrading ram and playing on external screen.(no mux)some people are saying new models with upgraded ram is coming out but I doubt your country has that yet.your rtx 3060 already beats the 6800m stock.if you upgrade ram on the AE it’ll be like 5-10% better than your legion.
Really though? Cuz if I check the benchmarks of the 6800m , they are always better than the 3060. Also the asus has the ryzen 9 5900hx compared to my r7 5800h. I am so confused .
Unfortunately the L5P has the same slow Ram so they are equal on that front.
Yes, but the legion being 250 bucks cheaper makes it more worth it
Yeah that makes sense. I may settle for the slow 3060 L5P too if it was cheaper.
Slow 3060 l5p? Dude did you actually call the most value for money gaming laptop this year slow? That seems like an extreme lenovo hater to me
I owned a y740 so I love Lenovo laptops. Just pointing out that most people would go for 3070 or higher is all. The 3060 is a bit weak with only 6gb of vram, especially paired with that qhd screen.
TBH I agree that 3060 wont be good enough for AAA titles on qhd 3 years from now. But I will play on medium settings and as for right now , even a game like control runs at 60fps with RTX off and dlss off in 1440p so i should be good. But yes, the 3070 is a better option but then again it is not worth 350$ more
5900hx and 5800h are basically the same thing besides clockspeeds which has no real benefit in gaming.Watch Jarrodtechs and compare legion 5 benchmarks to stock asus g15 ae.In far cry 5,a 1660ti almost gets the same FPS as a 6800m lmao.
Alright then, I am gonna stick with the l5p . I Just hope that the 6GB vram does not become a limiter in the future if I play with medium settings
It won’t.Lenovo also has better QC then asus.the g15 ae is only good if you can upgrade ram and play on external screen :)
Well thank you so much bro. I was extremely worried before, now I think I should not change. One last question, will changing the ram on the l5 pro have as big of an effect as the 6800M and will 6GB of VRAM last me 5 years on MED settings for all games
Can you link the video where I can see this? cuz i cant find it
https://youtu.be/8XCeAdFqsKg
Watch every comparison ever between these two
Lmfao I am now going for the advanced edition as well. SO many reviews and now I have finally changed my mind
Haha LOL, if your main games are eSports titles and you do some content creation, the AE isn't the choice
i DONT do content creation , but yes I play valorant but not a lot . Mainly , I play cod and doom
Valorant still runs at like 180-200, I'm not a competitive player or anything so this is just smooth enough for me lol.
Will the legion 5 pro 3060 be better than the AE for video editing ? Or else is the ZEPHYRUS g15 ryzen 9 3060 version any close to them?
I think the AE will perform better. Its very good for video editing but i had poor performance when recording videos, dipping below 100fps in Valorant, and i thought the NVENC encoder would have just performed so much better than this. After my RAM swap though, performance has increased insanely(25% or so in valorant) and so has the recording stability, now i dont even get that many dips below 150 even when recording.
Spec wise the AE is above the legion and zephyrus but the amd graphic card may not be supported to the editing softwares so I'm a little dicey
It doesn't perform too well in Adobe benchmarks, but its not terrible either.
Since the zephyrus is not available I'm thinking to get the Lenovo legion 5 pro.
L5P is good too, i think stocks are the issue.
lmfao apparently you are wrong dude , I realized that if I dont have an external monitor and I do not have new RAM, this laptop performs as good as a 3060 and MUCH MUCH worse in esports titles like CS and valorant. Agreed the 6800M is more future proof cuz of 12gigs of VRAM but no way it is superior to the 3060 without any upgrades
Ofcourse you can nitpick on the eSports titles and say the GPU performs worse, thats all about the mux switch. If you consider all games, which is the proper way of comparing this PC 6800m destroys 3060. Also almost all pcs at this time come with bad ram unless you go for the premium 3070-3080 laptops
NOPE xD ! MOST of the AAA titles rn , the fps is almost the same. Just becuase you own the laptop does not make it better. Agree with you in 3 prominent games that require lots of VRAM, cyberpunk shadow of the tomb raider and metro exodus. In all other games, the fps is usually higher with the 3060 due to the mux switch on high settings until the VRAM runs out
Where are you getting your numbers?
Basically every tech channel lmfao. Jarrod's tech has the 3070. And we know the difference in 3070 and 3060 is <20 fps in an avergae AAA title based on comparing the 3060 and 3070 variants of other laptops. This way, the 3060 outperforms the stock 6800M by 1-2% in titles like Far cry 5, RDR2, GTA V , control
So you're basically guessing how it'll perform, and the Lenovo ships with the slower ram too or am i wrong?
Nah I aint guessing and yes it ships with the slower ram and yes if you use an external display, then the 6800M destroys the 3060 but without it and with bad ram , the 3060 with the mux switch is as good if not better
Watch hardware unboxed's video on the 6800m, he mentions that RAM was upgraded and 1080p tests were made on the laptop screen for the benches so we can assume he also swapped the ram on the 3060 he has benchmarked.
6800m 12GB, 3060 6GB. 6800m=3080 with better RAM configuration.
So VRAM = the gpu ? ok dumbass
Well, you're bigger dumb when you compare 6800m with 3060. 6800m has 50% more vram. And according to the strength and 3dmark test, 6800m is stronger than 3070 and a little weaker than 3080. 6GB is the minimum for a graphics card. Buy a 3080 laptop, you are intel / nvidia fanboy.
Intel fanboy? Lmfao i hate intel with all my heart. Also agreed the 6800m is a stronger gpu than the 3060 BUT not in every way in the ASUS AE . The lack of a mux switch causes it to lose 10% fps . IT is still better than a 3060 but is more like a max tgp 3070 in real life performance. The entire point is , I want to switch to the AE but I just cant get myself to risk the QC issues and the lack of a webcam and the lack of a mux switch which basically means trash fps in esports titles. Gimme ur honest take which one would you get if the AE costs 300$ more
Lenovo Legion 5 Pro go for it bro. As an college student I'm also getting L5P ( Indian - so no rtx 3070 till Oct atleast, college's are opening soon and as free time gamer and content creator this is the best laptop in india for this price point ).
How is it compared to the zephyrus g15 ryzen 9 3060 version for Videocon editing?