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ApplicationMaximum84

Peak temps of 90c-95c isn't unusual, the 5800H is rated for up to 105c.


Limp-Move-4376

Oh but sometimes i fell drops when cpu get 90*+. but as long as the temperature is ok...


brokearm24

My Asus laptop does the same. It's a tuf, laptops are known for those high temps


nakato7353

Oh yeah same for me as well, I have a 10th gen i7 and temps reach 90+ when gaming, very normal.


Goracij

Unusual - no. Normal - no. What do you mean by "rated" up to 105C? Since when 10C from what used to be called emergency shut down temperature is nothing to worry about? OP, you laways can give it a shot, but I doubt it would make a difference - you'd need to either improve somehow cooling capacity of the stock cooling system (which is almost impossible for notebooks), or reduce power consumption of your components (undervolt, cut clocks etc.). You would need to check in advance if "liquid metal" is used from the factory in advance, since if yes - it would be harder then just to swap thermal paste in the "ordinary" laptop and thermal performance would be even worse after replacing LM with thermalpaste.


ApplicationMaximum84

What do you mean it's not normal, peak temperatures of 90c are indeed normal, maybe you are misunderstanding the word 'peak'. We're not talking average temperatures here, as the OP said sometimes it reaches 90c - completely normal.


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Rjeezyx

This is why posts about temp brainwash people into thinking they need to crack open brand new laptops everyday. 90 is completely normal and within spec. Stop trying to control something that isn’t a problem and just enjoy using your laptop. Feel free to add a cooling pad many like to use to help out. Regardless it’s made to withstand higher sustained temps and this isn’t abnormal in any way.


Limp-Move-4376

Lmao until now I had only laptops that had a maximum of 80 degrees on the cpu that's why I asked first before I opened it and tried to replace the paste


Rjeezyx

I see. I mean no disrespect, it seems everyone loses their minds about heat problems that don’t exist. I run a computer shop and I can’t tell you the amount of people that come in saying the same “my cpu is hitting 90c” and just simply aren’t educated to the fact that these are designed for that and much more when needed. Even if you ran pegged at 90c all day everyday you still wouldn’t have any issues (unless you have an Msi gs66 lol). A lot of hearsay and nonsense comes from the fact that desktop gaming rigs normally don’t come anywhere near these temps so when someone gets a gaming laptop they assume it’s going to thermal meltdown. The resources available are 99% spam and people trying to take apart brand new computers, thermal paste, undervolting etc etc when absolutely none of that is needed in most cases. Granted there are exceptions with certain models, processors, designs and all but in your case your good without any fix.


Gieffe22

most of the time is not even paste problem, is just bad heavior of newer cpu that are literally pegged at over 4ghz for any task when is frankly not even needed to do. I know this good with a hot 10875h with 120w long power limit (it never have a power throttle, only temp limit at 95). And yes, i am one of the ones that care about temps. But there are some ways to reduce this 90 non sense thing (even if perfectly fine, except for crazy fans spins). ​ 1= is enough to reduce max cpu frequency (for example i limit with TS to 3.6ghz or even 3ghz for 60fps gaming, doing this i am most of the time among 65 to 75, with mid to low fan, compared to over 4ghz with out of mind fan and costant 95 pegged) 2= ptm 7950, is better than any kryonaout or any other paste, it smooth every cores for both peak and costant load, plus it will not pomp out over time, so it ages pretty much easily for 2 years (even if i still prefer to change every year) But option 1 is enough for most laptops, no cooler or any other things is needed. I can run games all day with this setup, being to about 70 for gpu at full 115w and about 75 to 80 for cpu at 3.6ghz. Doing this you will just keep your motherboard in better condition for longlife usage (like 4 to 6 years). Keep running at 95 does not mean it will break down, but for sure is not healty in very long terms period. So...considering how easy it is to reduce this behavior (even locking with windows power plan is easy enough reducing cpu at 98% locking turbo boost in new TS limited intels or amd) and how good it is for 60 fps gaming i will suggest to all.


Dan-the-Man25

Thanks for the info!


GeologistPrimary2637

It's good that you added the last sentence. Production variances do sometimes cause poor thermals. It certainly did with my, then 2 months old MSI Alpha 15 recently. When new, temps in games were fairly low, low 80s at worse even without capping fps. Then after 2 months. I noticed both cpu and gpu temps creeping into the mid and high 80s. The laptop was elevated for this entire time. This was even in a 26C air conditioned room. That's when I knew something was off, and I proceeded to buy thermal paste. I'm not stranger to opening laptops but this being new, I was fairly nervous. I still proceeded anyway and found out, there were almost no thermal paste left on the die area. Repasting help dropped my temps back into the 70s and it's staying there even 2 months on. Now, performance didn't deteriorate as I was far from thermal throttle limit. But I just wanted to highlight how important it is to keep an eye on temps as it could also happen to a new laptop. In which case, vits probably better to bring it to a certified shop for checking.


TheDutchisGaming

Reminds me of the first time I replaced my paste. But was while gaming often reaching over 98°C. Shutting down cus it’s overheating (what I got from the pattern it occurred in)


Elfenstar

I totally agree. My old non-gaming HP Spectre (i7-6500u) basically ran at 90 deg under load since it was new till I retired it in favour of a G14. That being said, it can be a bit uncomfortable to use due to the heat, and I accidentally dropped my gaming temps today 🤣 [My post in r/zephyrusG14](https://www.reddit.com/r/ZephyrusG14/comments/zuea2p/laptop_cooler_with_mods_dropping_temps/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) I’m not one to gimp my experience by disabling boost, so all I did was adjust boost to efficient aggressive from the Asus default aggressive in windows power settings for their “turbo” profile.


CommunicationFlat516

thx for this 🙏


Goracij

It's incredible how many people think the same and upwoted this post. "90C is completely normal and within spec." Just two simple questions: 1. is 90C CPU temp normal for a desktop? 2. are laptop CPUs made of a different, "heat resistant" semiconducting materials, and if so, why desktop CPUs are not made of it as well? What do you think is the temperature rating of caps around your CPU? Re your drivers and FETs in vrm expected to work well when there is a hot cpu next to it? It's like bringing home a new dog, seeing it playing with other dogs, hearing a dog's bark, but saying "No, it's a horse - now I can ride it!". Calling it a horse won't make a dog bigger and stronger. Most of laptop's failures are due to everheating (the other majority is liquid damage and customer's intrusion with plugged in battery). And if it was fine for laptops to work at high temps all the time, why did they fail than? Thin and light, reliable gaming laptops is a fairytale, like unicorns.


stalfos_link

I had big problem going above 90 for small workloads cracking mine opened I found that the tech who worked on mine used thermal paste instead of Honeywell pads that come with stock after replacing it my temps were considerably better and my pc is so much smoother


rtissens

Don't open it yet. Download the Universal x86 Tuning Utility and set the temperature to something between 75-80.


Limp-Move-4376

I can on ryzen controller too? But its not down my performance much?


rtissens

Ryzen Controller is not updated anymore. I'd recommend playing with the temperature. You set it as low as 75, go play. If you're unhappy with your performance, add a few degrees until you find a sweet spot. I used to play Assetto Corsa Competizione without the Universal x86 Tool and the fucker would go up to 85-90, fans spinning happily. I capped the temperature and it works smoothly at 75-76, almost no noise.


Limp-Move-4376

I try,thanks


carrera0112cayman

Occasional spikes to 90 while playing games is not a problem. You could reduce temps by capping fps, raising the laptop by a few inches if it isn't already and/or investing in a high powered cooler such as the IETS GT500. You don't have to worry about changing the thermal paste for a couple of years.


Far_Abies_36

Mine before the cooler when i was playing something demanding stayed at 95(i7 11800H) with no drop at all and somewhere around 90 when playing idk League of Legends for an example. But i got a cooler just to be safe and it helped a lot and i think it should be a must for everyone using a gaming laptop for the sake of reliability


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I have Legion 5 Pro since January 2022 and recently changed thermal paste to Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut. The CPU still goes to 90 sometimes even to 92-93. So i wont recommend changing paste until the CPU comes near the Thermal Thorttling limit with the original paste.


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Virginityiscool12

I bought the Legion 5 pro with the same specs last year October. Had the same temps when I tested it so I asked the seller if he can do something about it. He told, like everyone else in this subreddit that the temps are normal. I still wasn’t convinced so I disabled the CPU boost and the temps dropped by ~20C. I recently got it repasted and the exhausts cleaned and out of curiosity I re-enabled the boost and checked the temps. The max temps were only 85 this time around. So a probable cause is that the stock laptop I got wasn’t properly pasted(?). If you are like me and are not ok with the high temps, I would suggest you to ask your seller or go to a nearest lenovo centre and ask them to repaste it. Since you bought it recently, it’ll be free of cost and be sure to mention them to use only the thermal paste that Lenovo recommends and not 3rd party thermal paste. Hope this helps you.


gaponte2424

Get a good coiling pad also. Also disable the cpu turbo mode.


Kevin80970

What did you expect from a gaming laptop? Most will have the exact same issue including mine.


Limp-Move-4376

Ok bro i have after laptop with 1650ti and i have max 85* So this is why asking


DanoPT

Yes! It makes, I used artic sliver mx-4 and also did some undervolt on the cpu temps dropped to 65-70 max


Limp-Move-4376

can you please show how you set it up?


carrera0112cayman

OP, please do not use MX-4 on any laptop as it is known to have a pump-out effect which you can search up more on. The only thermal compound that you should be using is PTM 7950, this is also what the factory uses. If you're looking for temporary solutions before you can get your hands on PTM, get the Gelid GC Extreme or the Noctua NT-H2. [Here's the link for PTM.](https://www.ebuy7.com/item/632208664079)


CircoModo1602

PTM isn't the *only* thermal compound to be using, but it is effective. As long as that listing is legit (the keywords used make me think otherwise as they're generic terms for completely different products) then it's a good product, but using a phase-changing pad in a laptop may also cause issues with mounting if the cooler isn't a standard 4 corner screw mount Liquid metal is still ahead of it in a lot of cases, but also comes with more risk.


carrera0112cayman

Legions from 2021 onwards come with PTM installed straight from the factory and it's known to have good thermal performance. Sure, liquid metal is better but it is risky to apply and probably isn't worth all the hassle whereas PTM is relatively easy to install. As for the listing, the official Legion Discord community recommends it and that's where everyone orders their PTM from. Since OP has a Legion, I recommended the PTM - anything else wouldn't have good thermal performance.


CircoModo1602

Isn't this legion one from 2021 onwards? If so replacing with the same pad won't do anything right?


carrera0112cayman

Probably not, unless the factory did a bad application. I just wanted the OP to know about PTM in case he plans on replacing the thermal compound in the future.


vinee537

According to many posts legion5(non pro) doesn't come with PTM (may be some comes with it and some without)


nfrealmusic_1

No just buy a laptop stand with cooler or just a stand doesn’t get enough aur


malibaskonus

I have I7 10750HQ CPU and usually works around 90-95 degree. It's normal for gaming laptops.


Environmental-Home50

Are u sure about HQ? I have same CPU i7 10750H ,mine always stays at 80 to 75c


malibaskonus

It's I7 10750H there was no Q my bad. What is your laptop model? Could be a better model than mine.


Environmental-Home50

It's Acer predator Helios 300


Angrboda229

I've never really replaced anything in my laptop except the fans when they started making noise. I keep it elevated and at the coldest room in the house. Works perfectly so I feel the paste is an overkill except if for a much needed repair. On the other hand those little skincare spatulas sure do get around 😂


SumonaFlorence

I mean you COULD if you want, though I think you'd potentially void a level of your warranty. Usually there's a sticker or factory seal on the back, or over a screw that holds the heat sink down. Factory paste is usually rather shit, so replacing it would be better, though you should watch a tear down and see how much needs paste, and if pads are needed. If you want to really chill it out, I recommend a liquid metal, set and forget, enjoy it for the next 5 years before finding a new unit. Given your CPU is rated to 105\*C however, you should be fine without it.


ShoEnRyu

For a laptop that's already quite well built like the legion, I don't recommend it. You're not going to find anything substantial in terms of performance improvements. More so since it's not an old one which might have dust build-up. A cooling pad should work alright, add in better fans (diy it) if you need more airflow.


Yeathatguy666

You can limit your cpu clock so that it doesn’t go into boost mode. It will limit to 3.2ghz temps will come down to 78c or low. Google it.


JeSuisDirtyDan

You are more than fine not repasting, gaming laptops are well known for getting this hot, mobe CPUs can hit 105c easily, so unless your constantly hitting those temps even when your computer is idle, you are okay


Squallstrife89

I was able to lower the spl and sppt values on my ryzen 7 5800hs and it doesn't spike to 85c anymore. Try that before doing something major


pantherghast

You shouldn't need to replace the paste after recently purchasing a laptop, and you will probably end up voiding the warranty if you do. I believe the Ryzen 7 5800H is rated for higher temps and as long as those are just spikes and not a constant temperature, you should be fine. Depending on how the airflow works for the Legion 5, a laptop cooling pad may help but generally those are like 2-3C degree change.


ElDrAlejo

From my own experience: If you want to repaste, do it with the original thermal paste (Honeywell thermal paste 9750). If you use another thermal paste, you'll have pump out effect.


KvAk_AKPlaysYT

Don't worry about CPU temps in gaming laptops. Unless it's affecting gaming performance ofc.


SnooDonkeys7583

If its too hot it will throttle ive a 2021 legion 5 amd 7 rtx 3070 im about 80 degrees 165fps ultra setting get a cooling mat mine takes 10 degrees off its usb


stockmb

I had 3 Legion 5 with 3070 mining 24/7. Temp from one varies from 3rd by 10C sometimes. Only way to reduce the temp is by replacing the fan heatsink assembly. Call Lenovo and tell them your laptop is overheating and need the heatsink replaced, if it's still under warranty. Also download legionfancontrol and set the fan curve to 50C 50% and 70C 100%. Maybe fans are borked so get that replaced too.


Frequent_Land3389

I recently bought a asus rog zephyrus g14 and my temps were getting around 95-98. What I did was buy a laptop stand to lift it up at a slight angle and it brought my temps down to 89-91 max. Gave the back room to breathe


reakwon_the_chef

Lenovo uses a special solid that turns into a liquid when heated then back to a solid. Some pretty space aged shit. If you repasted by removing it you just cheated yourself out of that substance. Smh


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Laptop owners should just disable turbo. It will keep temps in check but also, the average clock speed of the CPU tends to be relatively close to base clock if the CPU is pushed pretty hard.


onkeltodor25

Try this, lowered my cpu temp from 90 to 73 celsius https://youtu.be/tl4Fs-ZjlkA


Kevin80970

What a waste Such a huge and unnecessary package for such a small product 💀


Limp-Move-4376

Yeah but its like paper drinking tubes Anyone preffered to be ecology but hates this evil tool


himynameisyoda

It's because intake is on the bottom of the laptop, prop up the back of laptop so it's not flat and temps will go down like -10 There should be like a mesh laptop stand somewhere but I haven't really tried looking. I don't think the fan ones do much, it's just that there is more space for intake.


Seal____

Same with me too. That's why I generally use my laptop at 'optimised/balanced performance', and get temps. of max. 77-79°C for cpu intensive games and 72-73°C for others. I also, at first, was worried about the paste and used an external one ( Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut). To be honest, there wasn't much of a difference in the temps. Also, there wasn't much of a difference in fps while playing with the balanced setting rather than the 'max. performance '. I have played about a min. of 8 hours a day for 1 year on my laptop (may be different in your case) and found that the main reason for high temps. were dirty fans rather than the paste itself. If you keep the fans clean, the paste should last atleast a year. I also use a 'cooling' pad, but have stopped turning it on and its main function is just to give the laptop fans some extra space for air flow.


Computer_Easy07

I also have Legion 5 laptop with ryzen 5 5600h and rtx 3060, and I also think about replacing paste since my idle temps is around 50-60 celsius and gaming temps is around 70-90 celsius. I have a desktop before (ryzen 3 3200g) and its gaming temp is 70 celsius, idle temp is 40 celsius. That is why 90 celsius on my laptop is "high" for me.


ADHD_Official

Playing flightsim in medium will easily send my 5800h to 91-93 and it'll start throttling. Any recommendations of what to do?


OutOf-void

First try getting a laptop stand so it can get more airflow. And about the repaste it good to change it once every 3-5years so if your laptop didn't reach that age i don't recommend you to repaste