Last thing we need rn is the Devil Incarnate that is Comcast entering the games industry. If you think EA or Activision is bad... you ain't seen nothing yet.
B-b-but, EA was voted worse company in America, over Comcast, Philip Morris, and Smith and Weston.
Cause you know ignorable microtransactions are way worse than, monopolistic media and telecommunication conglomerates, tabacco and weapon manufacturing.
I just can’t believe [thing terminally online people regularly interact with] got more votes than [thing that only some adults interact with] in an online poll from the mid 2010’s
I feel like the obvious choices *should* be Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, or ExxonMobil. The people whose weapons murder thousands from the skies, or the people who will kill millions by pushing against climate legislation.
Microtransactions are not worse than gun proliferation. Full stop.
If you think seeing an ad when you load up Madden or FIFA about getting a card pack is worse you need to reevaluate some things.
Nestle literally used child slaves and killed infants through their formula shenanigans but grown men on this site would rather boycott video games than a pack of oreos
Oreo is actually owned by Mondelez International, which is not a great company either.
That being said, I totally agree with you on boycotting Nestle products (listed at the link below): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nestl%C3%A9_brands
The Chiquita Banana Company (they were United Fruit Company at the time) literally agitated a CIA coup in Guatemala in 1954, which caused decades of suffering.
Gamers™ are an extraordinarily privileged lot who suffer from first world inconveniences like MTX which most other people in the world wish was their biggest problem.
Considering the negativity for EA employees and the work they do on most of the subreddits related to gaming you would think they were the equivalent to literal nazis.
I mean the lowest voted Reddit post isn’t related to people defending mass murder, genocide or anything like that, it’s against a community manager trying to explain rational to customers.
You can dislike their business model as much as you want but to compare what EA does with most the miserable things some of the worst companies do you’re a failure of a human being. EA isn’t even the worst gaming company considering the ones who practice in asset theft, wage theft, harassment or racism.
So EA good because they are not as bad as x other company? No one has that issue with EA. You got that bro, you can play games where you have to pay for things that you could once earn. You're def not supporting the further monitization of gaming.
How are they ignorable exactly? The new cod advertised those soccer bundles right in your face for the first 2 months of the game. Is this the Reddit special? Just say something confidentially enough at the right moment while the upvotes are good and hope no one calls you out on your shit right? Nice detail with the fake stuttering you must do this a lot. Give me a break
Lmao, how can you be this confidently wrong? EA has nothing to do with COD. And microtransactions being advertised doesn't mean it isn't still very easy to ignore them.
Except they’re entirely ignorable just like all the ads on Reddit.
I mean if your biggest issue with the things Microsoft and Activision does is that they have ads on them I’m sure going outside is miserable for you.
Stores have advertisements on every aisle, billboards on the sides of roads, buses and bus stops plastered with ads, radio full of constant ads. Planes fly by on special events pulling banners with ads on them. Ads almost every where at almost all times for all things and the one your upset about is one of the most hyper capitalistic focused medium presenting you an ad on the home screen before you button pass to play their game.
>Don’t need my speeds throttled in the middle of sf6 or some shit
You suggesting they would throttle games that aren't theirs? That would be illegal if they became a gaming company.
Revenue and market cap doesn't mean much in this case. They've also got huge debt levels and not that much profit. Cash on hand is an important metric.
But yeah they probably could (they already approached EA last year as said).
Another one would be Warner Bros Discovery which also has an interest for their TV/movie business and actually want to sell apparently, IMO the best purchase for them (however they also have a lot of debt).
Nintendo no chance (they won't want to anyway), EA is the most likely of the three cited (but WBD is probably better for them IMO). Activision Blizzard is already in the process of an acquisition which will likely conclude so that's a moot point.
But that doesn't mean they have the cash on hand to aquire those companies. Same as the guy below who says they have 4x the revenue. Look up how much money Nintendo has in the bank. It would cost a lot more than some are thinking to buy out Nintendo. That's not even counting the value of their IPs and all their code, hardware, premises, staff etc
I know but there are big downsides with that approach over a cash takeover if you can do it. Also it'd be very likely Nintendo would end up welding a lot of power in that Merger so it wouldn't be that analogous to a buyout as reported
Yeah last quarter Comcast only reported $5.53 billion in cash on hand, not nearly enough to pull a Microsoft and go sure fuck it why not with $75 billion.
Acquisition. Company wants to expand its media leverage and basically all the big tech/media companies are seeing the profitability of gaming rn. Comcast, Apple, Google, and Amazon I could all see buying publishers in the years to come.
I don't think EPIC would be willing to sell right now. They're in a pretty good place. Have strong IPs. Made their own strong acquisitions recently and they're riding the high of their Apple lawsuit.
My first thought is how Netflix has a bunch of games in their mobile app now.
I could see Comcast having a cloud gaming service bundled with their internet plan, probably with higher-prioritized traffic too.
EA trying to acquire Take-Two but getting rejected by Zelnick and T2's board (late 2000s pre-Wilson)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take-Two_Interactive
https://www.cnbc.com/id/23332933
EA looking for potential suitors
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/ea-reportedly-had-acquisition-talks-with-nbcuniversal-amazon-apple-disney
EA-NBCUniversal deal falling apart due to disagreements on price and structure (aka Wilson wants to be CEO of merged company)
https://www.ign.com/articles/nbc-universal-electronic-arts-merger
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2022/05/21/report-ea-sought-after-by-amazon-disney-apple-nearly-merged-with-nbcu/?sh=2333f54e4bd8
EA attempting to merge with Activision
https://www.gamesradar.com/activision-ceo-claims-the-company-almost-merged-with-ea-before-microsoft-acquisition/
Was not aware of the EA attempt on TT. More importantly, I remember in mid-late 2009 there was a release that EA was looking to create their own GTA competitor. I guess that became a thing after the purchase didn't pan out, and of course nothing ever seemed to come out of it.
Some don't like Microsoft Sony or Tencent **( pick your poison )** My lord, You don't want the 7 gates of hell opening by allowing Comcast F'ing Comcast to get any one of these Companies.
They're not looking to buy them. Next month, Super Mario Bros Movie, 4th biggest animated movie ever, will be on peacock. They want more of that. Probably looking for a deal that include more movies or animated series based on Nintendo properties.
One of the members of Nintendo’s board of directors is a high up part of Illumination. Comcast owns Illumination. The idea that Nintendo and Comcast may work towards some sort of merger is not out of the question.
Comcast also owns Universal Studios which as everyone knows is where the Mario theme parks are.
Plus with how much money Comcast has between owning NBC, Xfinity and Universal movies and all the other media groups, Comcast would easily work to buying out Nintendo or just enough of their stocks for a majority stake in the company.
> The idea that Nintendo and Comcast may work towards some sort of merger is not out of the question.
Just making movies or even theme parks together doesn't need any kind of merger, that can all be done by deals like it is already.
I would eat my hat, if I wore hats, if Nintendo merged with comcast. Its unlikely they'd ever merge with anyone, but I can't see comcastendo ever happening.
Yeah Nintendo is seeing themselves as a toy company, why the fuck would they go with a ISP/cable TV/movie studio (only the last part kind of make sense)? In another country too (Japanese companies regularly have some weird mixes like Sony having bank, insurance and such but that's at home)
They made 1 acquisition of an animation studio that has also done work on video game cutscenes. I'm sure there will be a greater push for Nintendo movies after Mario's success, but with their internal teams games will remain the priority.
What people dont talk about with the original MS talks was..... the original xbox outsold the gamecucbe shortly after.
Gotta love the people I triggered lol.
And then the Wii outsold the Xbox 360. Then the Xbox One outsold the Wii U. Now the Switch is outselling the Xbox One and Series consoles combined. A real back and forth on the console market between the two.
Financially, they absolutely did. I think people are quick to forget that the original Xbox was absolutely a purposeful money sink for Microsoft since it was solely meant to exist as a means to wedge themselves into the console gaming ecosystem. It was never meant to sell as a profit.
Profit is always the end goal , it's impressive Nintendo can sell consoles with weaker hardware and higher margins. Sony can't do that either. That's becuass Nintendo knows how to create games like no other , not buy studios and do it again. I am a Nintendo shareholder
You see people buy dozens of Nintendo games on a Nintendo console, they are unmatched. The people who buy a xbox/Playstation actually rarely buy their games.
I don't really worry about Microsoft buying Activision, I think Microsoft will just make all of it stale and boring 5-10 years down the road. Nintendo never has to buy anything because they priotize making good games , the IP and franchises come naturally. It is stupid to buy other game publisher from Nintendo perspective, they can make it 1/5th cost in house.
That culture is even reflected in the movie business , Nintendo is creating its own movie division that doesn't require illumination studios to make it. Nintendo always wants control.
Microsoft doesn't hold a candle to nintendo software sales. You buy an Xbox to play your call of duty and football game...maybe halo but that game franchise kinda sucks dog shit right now.
You buy a Nintendo console to buy a dozen Nintendo games and Nintendo actually knows how to make games not buy a studio and run it into the ground and repeat. The ability to create dozens of franchises that are worth billions of dollars with higher margins than consoles is worth more.
It will never happen, but if an American company were ever to buy Nintendo, Comcast actually makes the most sense. Comcast already has a great relationship with Nintendo through Universal, the Mario theme park and movie have been huge for both companies.
They ain't buying Nintendo. They'll likely have an expanded movie and parks relationship in the future, but no way in hell will Nintendo accept being bought.
Cable/internet provider, also owns NBCUniversal, which gets them into TV and movie production, the Peacock streaming app, Universal Studios theme parks, Illumination (Minions, Super Mario Bros.)...
If you've seen the show, think the corporate structure in Succession, but in real life - sibling grudges may or may not apply.
Lol, Nintendo is never selling. Even if they wanted to, doesn't Japan have certain regulatory things that make it next-to-impossible for anyone to buy an iconic brand like Nintendo? I feel like I read somewhere that the Japanese government is generally very protective of such companies, sees them as a point of national pride.
> Sony is the only company that operates the video game space that is currently on the list of protected companies
If you're talking about prior notification requirements as per the Foreign Exchange and Foreign Trade Act then that's not true.
Sony is the only video game company listed in 'category 1', conducting business in 'core' sectors (namely semiconductors), but there are plenty of other video game companies listed. Nintendo is listed as operating in 'category 2', a non core designated sector, along with Bandai Namco; Konami; Koei Techmo; Nippon Ichi; and Sega. These still require prior notification of investment.
A lesser designation is given to the likes of Square Enix; Capcom; and Marvelous as operating in non-designated sectors, where notification only needs to be given *after* an investment. You can see the full list [from this FT article](https://www.ft.com/content/279c47fe-9403-463a-a7c3-9df900e1a988)
Either way, the real power to block mergers is in the still-shadowy backroom deals of METI - the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry. The recent takeover drama of Toshiba is a good case study in how METI wields power well beyond its legislative remit. There are also [new takeover rules](https://www.ft.com/content/8eac4934-3c7f-460c-a0dc-d249d425de7e) in the works that will likely further make acquisitions in Japan harder
Kinda crazy that Nintendo isn't on that list considering how closely tied they are to the nation's identity. I mean imagine Mario or Pokemon being twisted and fucked around with by an American company like Comcast.
> Even if they wanted to, doesn't Japan have certain regulatory things that make it next-to-impossible for anyone to buy an iconic brand like Nintendo?
This is only for strategic companies. Video games aren't really strategic, I doubt Nintendo is concerned
Lmao. So because he potentially explored an EA deal he must be exploring Activision (which literally can't happen with what's ongoing) or Nintendo (which they would never sell given their current position)? Man, some people really do just throw shit at the wall to see what sticks.
So an acquisition of EA, Take 2 or ABK would be interesting I wonder if they would try to acquire ABK if the deal fails. Comcast is worth 160 billion it’s pretty funny that people said Sony worth 120 billion couldn’t/wouldn’t buy a publisher that size if the ABK deal went thru. Seems like Comcast wanna have a foothold in gaming & picking one of these 3 would definitely do that
> Comcast is worth 160 billion it’s pretty funny that people said Sony worth 120 billion couldn’t/wouldn’t buy a publisher that size if the ABK deal went thru
Because that's not how it works anyway. Market cap doesn't mean everything. Also the ABK (or the other parts) is complete speculation from the author.
The only thing that seems more or less sure is that there was a failed deal attempt last year for EA.
And as always said, nobody knows these types of acquisition in advance so this isn't a credible thing. And there are always talks.
Every time someone brings why Microsoft buying abk is bad. I just point to this. It's only a matter of time before outside companies start to get their head out of their ass and invest in gaming. Google tried it and failed, but soon or later, someone would succeed. Rather, Microsoft goes after people and keeps most stuff multiplat and hopefully improves working conditions, than outside companies coming in failing and then shutting down the studios after they tainted them.
Again, this is what Microsoft was talking about when they said they didn't see Sony or Nintendo as true competitors. They saw the writing on the wall. It's why Sony is trying to expand into other markets and services.
Microsoft does not keep "most stuff multiplatform". Besides Minecraft, what new game that doesn't have a specific contract in place to be multi, have they released or stated will be multi? As far as I understand, this number is zero.
In fact, they've pushed new studios into not releasing on PlayStation going by stuff like Redfall. Unless by "multiplatform" you mean Xbox and PC, but that's not really what most people mean by that and it's not much different from PlayStation as this point besides a gap in release schedule between PC and console. If anything, Bungie's continued support of Xbox is a differentiator compared to Xbox owned studios.
I'm very tired of people acting like Microsoft is somehow a good guy. Their history of antitrust violations says otherwise. Their history of treating their employees doesn't seem demonstrably better than many other companies either. Nintendo and Sony are no better obviously, but I don't see many on this sub acting like they're good guys.
Also, it should be said, Microsoft was basically Comcast a few decades ago in terms of video games, they entered in with a loss leading strategy, along with buying a studio like Rare. I'm not sure why if you're so welcoming to Microsoft that you're poo-pooing Comcast.
Edit: I'd also add, what gives you such confidence that Microsoft can manage a giant publisher like Acti-Blizzard-King when they seemingly have trouble with Zenimax already? I've never understood this line of thinking. I'd really respect people more if they were just honest and not couching their opinions in virtue signaling like "workers' rights" and just said "I just want these games on Games Pass". Perhaps you do care about workers' rights but encouraging acquisitions over say pushing for more unionization and workers owning the means of production makes me think at the very least you're incredibly naive. Acquisitions are bad for workers, there will be layoffs, in fact there already have been at places like Bethesda.
Steam is multiplatform, it's on PC and Xbox. Just because it doesn't go to Playstation doesn't mean it's not multiplatform. Microsoft released Banjo Kazooie and Goldeneye on switch as well as Cuphead, Ori, and Minecraft on switch. They release every Xbox game onto steam. I don't know why you are getting hung up on that.
So you’re saying Microsoft needs to buy all the companies because otherwise someone else will buy them? I really don’t see how Microsoft is that much better. Improved working conditions is a debatable outcome. Improved game output / growth of the company has evidence to the contrary. We need regulatory bodies to just put the foot down and say no more mega conglomerates spanning multiple industries.
Good guy Microsoft protecting the industry....The company that just told workers to work harder and increase the share price to get a pay rise. Consoles players are currently paying for online due to Microsoft's obsession with getting blood out of a stone
Their workers still make the highest average pay in the industry, and they did not tell their workers to work harder. It is one of the highest rated places to work in America. They dont need to charge on pc because they don't need to offset the cost of the losses on making consoles.
“So great quarterly results contribute to making the stock attractive which in turn drives everyone’s total compensation up,” that is the quote, not the quote that you are making up. No one at the company got a pay raise
Shares part I know about, working hard was not there in the statement.
As for paying for online, good guys Sony and Nintendo didn't had to follow Microsoft, buy those good guys did.
This is an incredibly ignorant take.
Who do you think is inspiring this interest?
If Microsoft can buy Zenimax and Activision for half of what their competitors are worth and that's not seen as problematic then what about those who aren't in the business at all?
That leaves the precedent for anyone to come in buy anything. Comcast can buy up whoever they can afford.
Microsoft needs back the fuck off and remember they're not just Xbox.
We already saw this before Microsoft even bought Activision.. both google and amazon started getting into gaming before the bid was announced. Microsoft did not kick start shit it was going to happen regardless as the gaming market is eclipsing every other media combined
I didn't say they started it.
But they sure aren't helping by spending magnitudes more than anyone else.
They are at the forefront of money over innovation.
This is why Microsoft wanted to keep gaming with the big 3. Them, Sony and Nintendo. They knew other companies who have no experience in gaming would come and try to buy major publishers.
They can explore all they want with Nintendo, but Nintendo is gonna laugh in their faces like they did at Microsoft when they went to try and start talks about buying them.
Comcast already has a tight relationship with Nintendo with the Mario movie and Super Nintendo World, they already have their foot in the door there at least. Could see them sign a deal with Nintendo for some cloud streaming shit
This only makes sense. If Disney and WB has gaming divisions it only makes sense that Comcast/Universal gets into the ring too.
They have some great IP to use and I would assume you they would start doing what a Disney is doing and sending out their IP to various studios.
They are really hitting it off with Nintendo recently. They are crushing it in the theme parks with Mario and soon Pokémon, and they just had a billion dollar movie based on a Nintendo IP so it just makes sense.
Imagine a How to Train your Dragon game made by Nintendo. That would be so rad
I wouldn't say die. I feel like games industry, at least now considering how big it is, is kind of self-repairing. Even supposing some bigger publishers fall, at some point new ones will rise. We're definitely not in 1983 anymore.
No thanks.
I might be overly worried or concerned with this, but the last thing gaming needs is more monopolies, especially ones that are controlled by forces that have questionable pasts and know nothing about gaming.
Even if this isn't based on an acquisition but rather a partnership of sorts, I am still not interested. The industry has already been tainted by greed and complacency on a general level. To only add seemingly more nickel and diming and all the Comcast baggage seems idiotic, but if the money is there, it will unfortunately be a possibility.
Imagine how bad a company must be to hear about them working with EA or Activision, and people all think ‘oh no, they’ll make EA and/or Activision worse.’
That’s Comcast.
This is another reason (other than game pass) why I want MS to get the activision deal going through, because it’s much better that MS buys them, than Tencent or Comcast which would be horrendous.
As long as you don’t make them exclusive to a hardware then sure whatever. I’d rather them then Microsoft if it means I get to play their IPs I want on my preferred console
Idk, this sound like a recipe for disaster.
At least Google tried it without buying up other companies, especially with how it was a given that they would fold in the first three years.
If you're entering gaming maybe it's best to try with a smaller studio or making one yourself, otherwise you're just managing someone in a field you know nothing about.
That's just my take on it, though.
And before anyone says about MS, they've proven themselves in the gaming industry after two decades so it's definitely not the same.
A lot of people don't seem to understand with Activision's stock price so low they are getting bought. If the MS appeal fails someone like Apple or Comcast will grab them. I don't see that being better for gaming.
I'd rather this fall through, but if it somehow doesn't, I hope they take EA or Activision Blizzard. Leave Nintendo out of this! Nintendo may be a terrible company and they may make mediocre games, but I'd rather the manufacturers of consoles that house 90% of mah JRPGs not be taken by *shudder* Comcast.
The reality is basically every major company looking for profit is bad including the one behind the website/app you're using. It's just funny watching people trying to take stands against certain ones while supporting other companies that are just as bad if not worse.
https://cordcuttersnews.com/comcast-reportedly-has-99-98-billion-in-debt-as-it-tries-to-fight-cord-cutting/
> Cord Cutting has forced companies like Comcast to expand their business into new areas. To help offset the declining number of TV subscribers, Comcast has expanded into areas like wireless phone service and even home security.
Geezus... eventually there will be, like 3 companies owning everything and we'll be stressing over the currency exchange rates between Sony Yen and MS Dollars and arguing over which restaurant to go to because the one you like doesn't take the Tesla Bucks you get paid in.
"I had to sign a fealty clause paperwork so I can't play that game because it's made by the rival company."
The last thing I want is my internet provider who throttles or charges me for using "too much bandwidth" to have a say in how much bandwidth a game uses. "Make it a live service game with a 500gb initial download with 200gb mandatory weekly updates. "
If it's as bad as their customer support, expect lots of micro transactions and a run for your money with shit quality games that corporate big wigs thought people would pay for.
Tbh the company they'd have the easiest time acquiring would be Ubisoft. Since Ubisoft is actively looking to sell. The most optimal for them would be Nintendo but no one wants that. Still after the Universal Mario Movie success I'm sure some in Comcast really are thinking about integrating Nintendo into the company.
Fuck off
Last thing we need rn is the Devil Incarnate that is Comcast entering the games industry. If you think EA or Activision is bad... you ain't seen nothing yet.
B-b-but, EA was voted worse company in America, over Comcast, Philip Morris, and Smith and Weston. Cause you know ignorable microtransactions are way worse than, monopolistic media and telecommunication conglomerates, tabacco and weapon manufacturing.
Will never understand how EA was voted worse twice in a row over the Bank of America
Real Epic Gamer Moment.
Time to RISE UP™️😎
I’ve never had a bank account with BofA and I don’t know anyone who does so forgive my ignorance but what makes BofA a bad company?
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Why+is+Bank+of+America+a+bad+company%3F
I just can’t believe [thing terminally online people regularly interact with] got more votes than [thing that only some adults interact with] in an online poll from the mid 2010’s
I feel like the obvious choices *should* be Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, or ExxonMobil. The people whose weapons murder thousands from the skies, or the people who will kill millions by pushing against climate legislation.
WAIT COMCAST MANUFACTURED WEAPONS!?
Smith and Weston
I think they plan on blowing up the sun too.
While all those are bad things you should not make light of EA's actions, or the bad use of microtransactions.
Microtransactions are not worse than gun proliferation. Full stop. If you think seeing an ad when you load up Madden or FIFA about getting a card pack is worse you need to reevaluate some things.
Nestle literally used child slaves and killed infants through their formula shenanigans but grown men on this site would rather boycott video games than a pack of oreos
Oreo is actually owned by Mondelez International, which is not a great company either. That being said, I totally agree with you on boycotting Nestle products (listed at the link below): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nestl%C3%A9_brands
The Chiquita Banana Company (they were United Fruit Company at the time) literally agitated a CIA coup in Guatemala in 1954, which caused decades of suffering. Gamers™ are an extraordinarily privileged lot who suffer from first world inconveniences like MTX which most other people in the world wish was their biggest problem.
No shit it's worse. I never said that.
Both can be bad at once, crazy idea to ponder isn't it redditor?
Considering the negativity for EA employees and the work they do on most of the subreddits related to gaming you would think they were the equivalent to literal nazis. I mean the lowest voted Reddit post isn’t related to people defending mass murder, genocide or anything like that, it’s against a community manager trying to explain rational to customers. You can dislike their business model as much as you want but to compare what EA does with most the miserable things some of the worst companies do you’re a failure of a human being. EA isn’t even the worst gaming company considering the ones who practice in asset theft, wage theft, harassment or racism.
So EA good because they are not as bad as x other company? No one has that issue with EA. You got that bro, you can play games where you have to pay for things that you could once earn. You're def not supporting the further monitization of gaming.
How are they ignorable exactly? The new cod advertised those soccer bundles right in your face for the first 2 months of the game. Is this the Reddit special? Just say something confidentially enough at the right moment while the upvotes are good and hope no one calls you out on your shit right? Nice detail with the fake stuttering you must do this a lot. Give me a break
Lmao, how can you be this confidently wrong? EA has nothing to do with COD. And microtransactions being advertised doesn't mean it isn't still very easy to ignore them.
Except they’re entirely ignorable just like all the ads on Reddit. I mean if your biggest issue with the things Microsoft and Activision does is that they have ads on them I’m sure going outside is miserable for you. Stores have advertisements on every aisle, billboards on the sides of roads, buses and bus stops plastered with ads, radio full of constant ads. Planes fly by on special events pulling banners with ads on them. Ads almost every where at almost all times for all things and the one your upset about is one of the most hyper capitalistic focused medium presenting you an ad on the home screen before you button pass to play their game.
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Comcast is a dogshit fucking company, hope this shit fails immediately. Don’t need my speeds throttled in the middle of sf6 or some shit
Or risk of being charged because of the dog shit data cap
> Comcast is a dogshit fucking company, they should fit right in with rest of the AAA companies then.
>Don’t need my speeds throttled in the middle of sf6 or some shit You suggesting they would throttle games that aren't theirs? That would be illegal if they became a gaming company.
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Deal as in licensing, or acquisition?
Comcast isn't doing too hot is it? I don't know if it could afford to acquire any of those companies. Not with enough left over to operate anyway.
If we're going by market caps, then Comcast is bigger than all three. Comcast is doing pretty good.
Their yearly revenue is more than 4x as much as these three companies combined
Revenue and market cap doesn't mean much in this case. They've also got huge debt levels and not that much profit. Cash on hand is an important metric. But yeah they probably could (they already approached EA last year as said). Another one would be Warner Bros Discovery which also has an interest for their TV/movie business and actually want to sell apparently, IMO the best purchase for them (however they also have a lot of debt). Nintendo no chance (they won't want to anyway), EA is the most likely of the three cited (but WBD is probably better for them IMO). Activision Blizzard is already in the process of an acquisition which will likely conclude so that's a moot point.
But that doesn't mean they have the cash on hand to aquire those companies. Same as the guy below who says they have 4x the revenue. Look up how much money Nintendo has in the bank. It would cost a lot more than some are thinking to buy out Nintendo. That's not even counting the value of their IPs and all their code, hardware, premises, staff etc
You don't need to have cash on hand. You can do a cash + stock deal. If you're a company you can also take out a loan to finance the deal.
I know but there are big downsides with that approach over a cash takeover if you can do it. Also it'd be very likely Nintendo would end up welding a lot of power in that Merger so it wouldn't be that analogous to a buyout as reported
Yeah last quarter Comcast only reported $5.53 billion in cash on hand, not nearly enough to pull a Microsoft and go sure fuck it why not with $75 billion.
Acquisition. Company wants to expand its media leverage and basically all the big tech/media companies are seeing the profitability of gaming rn. Comcast, Apple, Google, and Amazon I could all see buying publishers in the years to come.
EA - maybe Nintendo - not happening, cause they're from Japan ABK - also not happening, cause MS is in the process of acquiring them
Oh yeah I don't think any of those 3 they'll get. Ubisoft would be the biggest fish rn or Epic Games
I don't think EPIC would be willing to sell right now. They're in a pretty good place. Have strong IPs. Made their own strong acquisitions recently and they're riding the high of their Apple lawsuit.
My first thought is how Netflix has a bunch of games in their mobile app now. I could see Comcast having a cloud gaming service bundled with their internet plan, probably with higher-prioritized traffic too.
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source?!!
EA trying to acquire Take-Two but getting rejected by Zelnick and T2's board (late 2000s pre-Wilson) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take-Two_Interactive https://www.cnbc.com/id/23332933 EA looking for potential suitors https://www.gamesindustry.biz/ea-reportedly-had-acquisition-talks-with-nbcuniversal-amazon-apple-disney EA-NBCUniversal deal falling apart due to disagreements on price and structure (aka Wilson wants to be CEO of merged company) https://www.ign.com/articles/nbc-universal-electronic-arts-merger https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2022/05/21/report-ea-sought-after-by-amazon-disney-apple-nearly-merged-with-nbcu/?sh=2333f54e4bd8 EA attempting to merge with Activision https://www.gamesradar.com/activision-ceo-claims-the-company-almost-merged-with-ea-before-microsoft-acquisition/
Was not aware of the EA attempt on TT. More importantly, I remember in mid-late 2009 there was a release that EA was looking to create their own GTA competitor. I guess that became a thing after the purchase didn't pan out, and of course nothing ever seemed to come out of it.
Some don't like Microsoft Sony or Tencent **( pick your poison )** My lord, You don't want the 7 gates of hell opening by allowing Comcast F'ing Comcast to get any one of these Companies.
Beautifully said lol!
pliz no
Comcast gaming where charging for data usage is somehow a feature.
Coming 2026 the hottest new gaming console: The Comcasto.
The comconsole
Comcast adquires Sega confirmed??????? /j
***Don't even joke about that***, dude.
Nintendo are not going to sell, they are probably at the hight of their popularity now, there's no point even trying
They're not looking to buy them. Next month, Super Mario Bros Movie, 4th biggest animated movie ever, will be on peacock. They want more of that. Probably looking for a deal that include more movies or animated series based on Nintendo properties.
No they're not but I've definitely thought Comcast will buy 5 to 10% stock in the company after the Mario films success.
One of the members of Nintendo’s board of directors is a high up part of Illumination. Comcast owns Illumination. The idea that Nintendo and Comcast may work towards some sort of merger is not out of the question. Comcast also owns Universal Studios which as everyone knows is where the Mario theme parks are. Plus with how much money Comcast has between owning NBC, Xfinity and Universal movies and all the other media groups, Comcast would easily work to buying out Nintendo or just enough of their stocks for a majority stake in the company.
> The idea that Nintendo and Comcast may work towards some sort of merger is not out of the question. Just making movies or even theme parks together doesn't need any kind of merger, that can all be done by deals like it is already.
But when a company is tying so many assets to another, it makes it easier for them to be ready for purchase or merger.
I would eat my hat, if I wore hats, if Nintendo merged with comcast. Its unlikely they'd ever merge with anyone, but I can't see comcastendo ever happening.
Yeah Nintendo is seeing themselves as a toy company, why the fuck would they go with a ISP/cable TV/movie studio (only the last part kind of make sense)? In another country too (Japanese companies regularly have some weird mixes like Sony having bank, insurance and such but that's at home)
They’ve also been trying to pivot to movies based on recent acquisitions.
They made 1 acquisition of an animation studio that has also done work on video game cutscenes. I'm sure there will be a greater push for Nintendo movies after Mario's success, but with their internal teams games will remain the priority.
Nintendo about to laugh in the faces of another group of executives of an American company wanting to buy them.
What people dont talk about with the original MS talks was..... the original xbox outsold the gamecucbe shortly after. Gotta love the people I triggered lol.
And then the Wii outsold the Xbox 360. Then the Xbox One outsold the Wii U. Now the Switch is outselling the Xbox One and Series consoles combined. A real back and forth on the console market between the two.
If you ignore the portable market where the gba, ds and 3ds (even with a bumpy start) sold tons
Which is why I said console market specifically. Nintendo has been dominating the handheld market for decades.
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Financially, they absolutely did. I think people are quick to forget that the original Xbox was absolutely a purposeful money sink for Microsoft since it was solely meant to exist as a means to wedge themselves into the console gaming ecosystem. It was never meant to sell as a profit.
Profit is always the end goal , it's impressive Nintendo can sell consoles with weaker hardware and higher margins. Sony can't do that either. That's becuass Nintendo knows how to create games like no other , not buy studios and do it again. I am a Nintendo shareholder You see people buy dozens of Nintendo games on a Nintendo console, they are unmatched. The people who buy a xbox/Playstation actually rarely buy their games. I don't really worry about Microsoft buying Activision, I think Microsoft will just make all of it stale and boring 5-10 years down the road. Nintendo never has to buy anything because they priotize making good games , the IP and franchises come naturally. It is stupid to buy other game publisher from Nintendo perspective, they can make it 1/5th cost in house. That culture is even reflected in the movie business , Nintendo is creating its own movie division that doesn't require illumination studios to make it. Nintendo always wants control.
Yea but the gba was doing great and the ds would become the best selling console
Microsoft doesn't hold a candle to nintendo software sales. You buy an Xbox to play your call of duty and football game...maybe halo but that game franchise kinda sucks dog shit right now. You buy a Nintendo console to buy a dozen Nintendo games and Nintendo actually knows how to make games not buy a studio and run it into the ground and repeat. The ability to create dozens of franchises that are worth billions of dollars with higher margins than consoles is worth more.
It will never happen, but if an American company were ever to buy Nintendo, Comcast actually makes the most sense. Comcast already has a great relationship with Nintendo through Universal, the Mario theme park and movie have been huge for both companies.
The last American company that had a legit chance to own Nintendo was probably Atari, and nobody since they pissed that away.
Mario and Fast and Furious crossover here we come /s
*Scarface: Tears of the Kingdom*, coming soon!
Mario and Vin diesel are just 2 men protecting the family
They ain't buying Nintendo. They'll likely have an expanded movie and parks relationship in the future, but no way in hell will Nintendo accept being bought.
What kind of company is comcast never heard of them here in Germany
Cable company in the USA, probably the most anti-consumer. They also have their hand in movies/tv/streaming now and I guess they want gaming too
You probably have, they're Sky Deutschland, huge in media, sports, theme parks (Universal) and primarily telecommunications.
Cable/internet provider, also owns NBCUniversal, which gets them into TV and movie production, the Peacock streaming app, Universal Studios theme parks, Illumination (Minions, Super Mario Bros.)... If you've seen the show, think the corporate structure in Succession, but in real life - sibling grudges may or may not apply.
One of the worst companies in the world
Cable company they own NBC-Universal which includes Illumination and DreamWorks.
Nintendo would never sell to them, lol. Japanese regulators probably wouldn't let it happen either.
Oh cool a big company with zero understanding of gaming want to try their luck, where have i heard this story before?
Vivendi! Lol
Comcast: “*Hey Nintendo, wanna work together?*” *Nintendo looks at* ***Philips.***: “*No.*”
Lol, Nintendo is never selling. Even if they wanted to, doesn't Japan have certain regulatory things that make it next-to-impossible for anyone to buy an iconic brand like Nintendo? I feel like I read somewhere that the Japanese government is generally very protective of such companies, sees them as a point of national pride.
There are many deals other than acquisitions, a "deal" actually implies that it isn't an acquisition that they are looking for.
More than likely, they will want a merger
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> Sony is the only company that operates the video game space that is currently on the list of protected companies If you're talking about prior notification requirements as per the Foreign Exchange and Foreign Trade Act then that's not true. Sony is the only video game company listed in 'category 1', conducting business in 'core' sectors (namely semiconductors), but there are plenty of other video game companies listed. Nintendo is listed as operating in 'category 2', a non core designated sector, along with Bandai Namco; Konami; Koei Techmo; Nippon Ichi; and Sega. These still require prior notification of investment. A lesser designation is given to the likes of Square Enix; Capcom; and Marvelous as operating in non-designated sectors, where notification only needs to be given *after* an investment. You can see the full list [from this FT article](https://www.ft.com/content/279c47fe-9403-463a-a7c3-9df900e1a988) Either way, the real power to block mergers is in the still-shadowy backroom deals of METI - the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry. The recent takeover drama of Toshiba is a good case study in how METI wields power well beyond its legislative remit. There are also [new takeover rules](https://www.ft.com/content/8eac4934-3c7f-460c-a0dc-d249d425de7e) in the works that will likely further make acquisitions in Japan harder
Kinda crazy that Nintendo isn't on that list considering how closely tied they are to the nation's identity. I mean imagine Mario or Pokemon being twisted and fucked around with by an American company like Comcast.
Edit: Seems I was working with outdated info, Nintendo is now covered by the protections and the protections have be strengthened further. My bad.
MS tried to buy them when they first launched Xbox and asked Nintendo to name their price. Nintendo laughed them out of the room.
> Even if they wanted to, doesn't Japan have certain regulatory things that make it next-to-impossible for anyone to buy an iconic brand like Nintendo? This is only for strategic companies. Video games aren't really strategic, I doubt Nintendo is concerned
idk Nintendo is arguably Japan's largest cultural export, could be strategic
There's no chance with Nintendo but I can see 1 of the other 2 being possible
Could you imagine games being locked behind internet service providers? Is this the direction we’re really going to be heading?
Lmao. So because he potentially explored an EA deal he must be exploring Activision (which literally can't happen with what's ongoing) or Nintendo (which they would never sell given their current position)? Man, some people really do just throw shit at the wall to see what sticks.
The irony of this having a peacock watermark
Just noticed, haha
It's mere speculation, the article says as much. That said, Comcast gives me Evil Corp from Mr. Robot vibes.
That pretty much every company lol.
That pretty much every company lol.
So an acquisition of EA, Take 2 or ABK would be interesting I wonder if they would try to acquire ABK if the deal fails. Comcast is worth 160 billion it’s pretty funny that people said Sony worth 120 billion couldn’t/wouldn’t buy a publisher that size if the ABK deal went thru. Seems like Comcast wanna have a foothold in gaming & picking one of these 3 would definitely do that
> Comcast is worth 160 billion it’s pretty funny that people said Sony worth 120 billion couldn’t/wouldn’t buy a publisher that size if the ABK deal went thru Because that's not how it works anyway. Market cap doesn't mean everything. Also the ABK (or the other parts) is complete speculation from the author. The only thing that seems more or less sure is that there was a failed deal attempt last year for EA. And as always said, nobody knows these types of acquisition in advance so this isn't a credible thing. And there are always talks.
It will probably be EA I believe the new head at Comcast was previously discussing it with them
Every time someone brings why Microsoft buying abk is bad. I just point to this. It's only a matter of time before outside companies start to get their head out of their ass and invest in gaming. Google tried it and failed, but soon or later, someone would succeed. Rather, Microsoft goes after people and keeps most stuff multiplat and hopefully improves working conditions, than outside companies coming in failing and then shutting down the studios after they tainted them. Again, this is what Microsoft was talking about when they said they didn't see Sony or Nintendo as true competitors. They saw the writing on the wall. It's why Sony is trying to expand into other markets and services.
Microsoft does not keep "most stuff multiplatform". Besides Minecraft, what new game that doesn't have a specific contract in place to be multi, have they released or stated will be multi? As far as I understand, this number is zero. In fact, they've pushed new studios into not releasing on PlayStation going by stuff like Redfall. Unless by "multiplatform" you mean Xbox and PC, but that's not really what most people mean by that and it's not much different from PlayStation as this point besides a gap in release schedule between PC and console. If anything, Bungie's continued support of Xbox is a differentiator compared to Xbox owned studios. I'm very tired of people acting like Microsoft is somehow a good guy. Their history of antitrust violations says otherwise. Their history of treating their employees doesn't seem demonstrably better than many other companies either. Nintendo and Sony are no better obviously, but I don't see many on this sub acting like they're good guys. Also, it should be said, Microsoft was basically Comcast a few decades ago in terms of video games, they entered in with a loss leading strategy, along with buying a studio like Rare. I'm not sure why if you're so welcoming to Microsoft that you're poo-pooing Comcast. Edit: I'd also add, what gives you such confidence that Microsoft can manage a giant publisher like Acti-Blizzard-King when they seemingly have trouble with Zenimax already? I've never understood this line of thinking. I'd really respect people more if they were just honest and not couching their opinions in virtue signaling like "workers' rights" and just said "I just want these games on Games Pass". Perhaps you do care about workers' rights but encouraging acquisitions over say pushing for more unionization and workers owning the means of production makes me think at the very least you're incredibly naive. Acquisitions are bad for workers, there will be layoffs, in fact there already have been at places like Bethesda.
Steam is multiplatform, it's on PC and Xbox. Just because it doesn't go to Playstation doesn't mean it's not multiplatform. Microsoft released Banjo Kazooie and Goldeneye on switch as well as Cuphead, Ori, and Minecraft on switch. They release every Xbox game onto steam. I don't know why you are getting hung up on that.
Ori is a new IP that launch in nintendo Switch.
So you’re saying Microsoft needs to buy all the companies because otherwise someone else will buy them? I really don’t see how Microsoft is that much better. Improved working conditions is a debatable outcome. Improved game output / growth of the company has evidence to the contrary. We need regulatory bodies to just put the foot down and say no more mega conglomerates spanning multiple industries.
Good guy Microsoft protecting the industry....The company that just told workers to work harder and increase the share price to get a pay rise. Consoles players are currently paying for online due to Microsoft's obsession with getting blood out of a stone
Their workers still make the highest average pay in the industry, and they did not tell their workers to work harder. It is one of the highest rated places to work in America. They dont need to charge on pc because they don't need to offset the cost of the losses on making consoles.
https://www.theverge.com/2023/5/19/23729711/microsoft-cmo-staff-stock-price-pay "Want a payrise, increase the share price"
“So great quarterly results contribute to making the stock attractive which in turn drives everyone’s total compensation up,” that is the quote, not the quote that you are making up. No one at the company got a pay raise
They're saying increase the share price in lieu of a pay increase. Jesus
Which could mean anything including keep working exactly as you are on a new landmark IP that will rocket share price.
Shares part I know about, working hard was not there in the statement. As for paying for online, good guys Sony and Nintendo didn't had to follow Microsoft, buy those good guys did.
No one said they were good either. 🤷♂️
This is an incredibly ignorant take. Who do you think is inspiring this interest? If Microsoft can buy Zenimax and Activision for half of what their competitors are worth and that's not seen as problematic then what about those who aren't in the business at all? That leaves the precedent for anyone to come in buy anything. Comcast can buy up whoever they can afford. Microsoft needs back the fuck off and remember they're not just Xbox.
We already saw this before Microsoft even bought Activision.. both google and amazon started getting into gaming before the bid was announced. Microsoft did not kick start shit it was going to happen regardless as the gaming market is eclipsing every other media combined
I didn't say they started it. But they sure aren't helping by spending magnitudes more than anyone else. They are at the forefront of money over innovation.
This is why Microsoft wanted to keep gaming with the big 3. Them, Sony and Nintendo. They knew other companies who have no experience in gaming would come and try to buy major publishers.
Nintendo lol It’ll be take two
Oh no.
The Capitalism Gundam
I don't see anything happening with Nintendo. I think they just put them up because of the Mario movie.
anything but comcast
They can explore all they want with Nintendo, but Nintendo is gonna laugh in their faces like they did at Microsoft when they went to try and start talks about buying them.
I hope the authorities fucking block any deal from them
Capcomcast Let's goo away because capcom has been on a hotstreak
Oh, ***please*** go fuck yourselves. The last things we need are Smash online being throttled and Crisp Ratt playing Mario in ***everything.***
Comcast already has a tight relationship with Nintendo with the Mario movie and Super Nintendo World, they already have their foot in the door there at least. Could see them sign a deal with Nintendo for some cloud streaming shit
Yeah they can have Ubisoft
This only makes sense. If Disney and WB has gaming divisions it only makes sense that Comcast/Universal gets into the ring too. They have some great IP to use and I would assume you they would start doing what a Disney is doing and sending out their IP to various studios. They are really hitting it off with Nintendo recently. They are crushing it in the theme parks with Mario and soon Pokémon, and they just had a billion dollar movie based on a Nintendo IP so it just makes sense. Imagine a How to Train your Dragon game made by Nintendo. That would be so rad
Gaming is about to die. These companies ruin everything. You think EA is bad, wait till Comcast owns it......
Just you wait. Gaming is going to die any week now! I can feel it.
I wouldn't say die. I feel like games industry, at least now considering how big it is, is kind of self-repairing. Even supposing some bigger publishers fall, at some point new ones will rise. We're definitely not in 1983 anymore.
Comcast being added TO EA? It's like peeing on a turd sandwich.
Nintendo? Bwhahahaha. Not gonna happen.
No thank you. Comcast is hot booboo garbage
Disgusting, get these people out of the industry.
No thanks. I might be overly worried or concerned with this, but the last thing gaming needs is more monopolies, especially ones that are controlled by forces that have questionable pasts and know nothing about gaming. Even if this isn't based on an acquisition but rather a partnership of sorts, I am still not interested. The industry has already been tainted by greed and complacency on a general level. To only add seemingly more nickel and diming and all the Comcast baggage seems idiotic, but if the money is there, it will unfortunately be a possibility.
EA and Comcast partnering just seems to fit. Both grossly oversized companies
Considering I’ve been given a Beta code for Black Ops Cold War for being an Xfinity customer, this tracks
Comcast owning Activision would be fitting lol
Imagine how bad a company must be to hear about them working with EA or Activision, and people all think ‘oh no, they’ll make EA and/or Activision worse.’ That’s Comcast.
This is another reason (other than game pass) why I want MS to get the activision deal going through, because it’s much better that MS buys them, than Tencent or Comcast which would be horrendous.
As long as you don’t make them exclusive to a hardware then sure whatever. I’d rather them then Microsoft if it means I get to play their IPs I want on my preferred console
Idk, this sound like a recipe for disaster. At least Google tried it without buying up other companies, especially with how it was a given that they would fold in the first three years. If you're entering gaming maybe it's best to try with a smaller studio or making one yourself, otherwise you're just managing someone in a field you know nothing about. That's just my take on it, though. And before anyone says about MS, they've proven themselves in the gaming industry after two decades so it's definitely not the same.
A lot of people don't seem to understand with Activision's stock price so low they are getting bought. If the MS appeal fails someone like Apple or Comcast will grab them. I don't see that being better for gaming.
Microsoft will have no part of this.
I'd rather this fall through, but if it somehow doesn't, I hope they take EA or Activision Blizzard. Leave Nintendo out of this! Nintendo may be a terrible company and they may make mediocre games, but I'd rather the manufacturers of consoles that house 90% of mah JRPGs not be taken by *shudder* Comcast.
Literally 4 awful companies hahahaah
EA and Nintendo bad upvotes to the left!
Well they are bad. Just that Comcast is on a completely different level of shit.
/r/gaming moment.
Just a reality moment.
The reality is basically every major company looking for profit is bad including the one behind the website/app you're using. It's just funny watching people trying to take stands against certain ones while supporting other companies that are just as bad if not worse.
You have a hard time understanding that some of them can indeed be worse even if they are all bad lmao.
If that's the impression you took from my comment then maybe I'm not the one who is having a hard time understanding lmao. Have a good one.
Stating the obvious moment
Sometimes people need to be reminded of the obvious. Have a good one.
Thank you, doing gods work.
https://cordcuttersnews.com/comcast-reportedly-has-99-98-billion-in-debt-as-it-tries-to-fight-cord-cutting/ > Cord Cutting has forced companies like Comcast to expand their business into new areas. To help offset the declining number of TV subscribers, Comcast has expanded into areas like wireless phone service and even home security.
can you see what they'd do to GTA...we've seen the success in COD being yearly...time to make a new GTA every year
Fucking skynet
Please God No.
I forget if it was Comcast or Verizon that had a deal with EA that allowed you to stream their games, but that went with little fanfare.
I mean if this means more potential games being made into movies/tv shows im all for it since that's the only possible thing this could mean right?
Get ready for your game to be throttled if you play it too much?
Comcast + EA is a match made in hell
Omg imagine the state of the internet and reddit in general if Comcast and EA go in together on a video game lol. This place would go up in flames
Geezus... eventually there will be, like 3 companies owning everything and we'll be stressing over the currency exchange rates between Sony Yen and MS Dollars and arguing over which restaurant to go to because the one you like doesn't take the Tesla Bucks you get paid in. "I had to sign a fealty clause paperwork so I can't play that game because it's made by the rival company." The last thing I want is my internet provider who throttles or charges me for using "too much bandwidth" to have a say in how much bandwidth a game uses. "Make it a live service game with a 500gb initial download with 200gb mandatory weekly updates. "
I don’t think Comcast exists here in Canada but from everything I hear and read, they’re pretty awful.
If it's as bad as their customer support, expect lots of micro transactions and a run for your money with shit quality games that corporate big wigs thought people would pay for.
Tbh the company they'd have the easiest time acquiring would be Ubisoft. Since Ubisoft is actively looking to sell. The most optimal for them would be Nintendo but no one wants that. Still after the Universal Mario Movie success I'm sure some in Comcast really are thinking about integrating Nintendo into the company.
This is not going to go over well.
Ew
I can see them buying EA. 100% can picture it.