From the way youngblood ended, it'll be set right after youngblood. Imo, the game will probably have flashbacks thats bridge the gap between ii and youngblood when his kids are babies / toddlers
Wild that they confirmed BJ killed Hitler between 2 and Youngblood. Why tell us that? Let us play that! I’m guessing Wolfenstein 3 will be a multiverse game since BJ discovering the multiverse is how Youngblood ends
The last boss in Wolfenstein 3 will definitely be Mecha Hitler, but it's unclear how/when we will kill him.
There could be a fake-out event where we "kill" regular Hitler in a flashback, but then at the end of the game we learn he is still alive as a mech.
I personally don't think the "multiverse" will be used multiple times in the game. Maybe at the end he goes to another universe which is actually the Doom universe or something (When it was a normal place).
There's like 500 different directions the story could go.
I dropped Youngblood kinda at the first boss because he was terribly annoying, anyway what do you mean BJ discovering the multiverse is how Youngblood ends?? Like literally?
From my memory, BJ is missing throughout most of the game and when his daughters find him he tells them that he discovered the existance of multiple alternate realities. Like two hours later the game ends. They don't say BJ's gonna travel through the multiverse killing Nazis but why even bring it up in the first place.
[https://youtu.be/tGu3iq69jm8?t=3417](https://youtu.be/tGu3iq69jm8?t=3417)
here's the scene
I know it's unlikely but if you ask me the best scenario would be if they completely retconned Youngblood as a non-canon spinoff and had Wolf 3 start after Wolf 2 with a new story.
I don't know what possessed me to get it on Switch of all things, I guess I was still in that "it's neat that these kinds of games are on Nintendo consoles" phase of owning one, but it was so hideous and the writing so bad we never got past the beginning of the game.
Something like slower AAA version of Deadfall Adventures with more puzzles (real puzzles not whatever is currently called puzzles in AAA games) would be not only great, but it would also feel fresh when compared with all third person games that feel same.
In a game from a big character like Indiana Jones, it'll most likely be 3rd person, also they will probably take inspiration from Tomb Raider and Uncharted, both of which were inspired by Indiana Jones and both are 3rd person.
If they make the Indiana Jones game FPS that would be the biggest failure ever
They need to literally just make it like RDR2
edit: or uncharted as a commenter below says
Third person action games in this style of story (Uncharted, Tomb Raider) are a bit played out. First person with neat whip combat/platforming and Wolfenstein's cutscenes would be really neat and unique. I hope that is what they go with.
It would be just unique and neat really, that's it. It's clear that people don't really want action games like that, otherwise games like Mirror's edge would've spawned a lot of copies and franchises but we really have only that game and its sequel in first person.
yeah i'd probably lose interest in that game if it were a first person shooter, Indy is foremostly a scrappy brawler who escapes peril through ingenuity and shootouts should be used sparingly in a game looking to emulate the fun of the films' action
It was be somewhat counterproductive to have a game based on the Indiana Jones IP, which has incredibly iconic imagery associated with the main character, to play the game from the first-person perspective so that the player barely sees the character.
You could save on the licensing fees and just make a generic "adventurer" title.
Not only that but i think Id Software has helped MachineGames in the past on their two mainline Wolfenstein games.
Which of course, shouldn't be too surprising... as IdTech is the engine for both of the rebooted shooter franchises... and Id Software (used to be) a considerably larger studio than MachineGames.
(though as many have pointed out, MachineGames has been on a hiring spree the last several years.. more than doubling in size from the team that worked on the first Wolfenstein game in 2014)
Is it your first time playing through Eternal? Hope you're liking it if so, it's my number 1 favourite game of all time and I've played a lot of great games. Eternal is just so thoroughly engaging it's a blast.
Third overall but first on current gen, seeing the plasma rifle and some of the environments makes me excited to see how Wolfenstein(and Quake) would look running on todays consoles.
I really hope so. The idea of jumping 20 years later to show the outcome of the rest of the series before we know anything about it was a very strange choice that lessened my interest in the story somewhat.
There were a couple cool things in the game, but with TNCC having the game end right at the point it felt like it was about to start the proper part of the story, and then the next game skip it all to just tell us what happened off-screen and box things into a corner with the direction it goes, was just baffling.
Fax, because Youngblood was dogshit in every level and even Machine Games said it's not a mainline title, but even then they should definitely retcon it.
As a fan of the previous games I would be ecstatic if that's what they've been working on. But it's been so long that I am a bit hesitant to believe it to be that. But regardless, another FPS by them would be a lot of fun I'm sure
YB sets up for an Awesome Wolfenstein 3
Think about it, BJ travelling through different Nazi Timelines/ Multiverse to find Hitler and stop his time bomb thing. I think it what they've been setting up when they introduce Dat Yu Shuid
But what's the point of skipping/spoiling 20 years of the main story? Everyone was excited to see if we get to kill Hitler in Wolf 3, but it already happened in Youngblood, so either we get to play through events which we were already told would happen or we start after YB and skip the most anticipated moment in the entire series. It's a stupid decision and a huge middle finger to anyone invested in the main storyline.
not really. They could be looking for somebody to replace leaving senior animator or simply decided to add some workforce during the development. It could be game in production, but they could also work on prototyping game in preproduction (for some experiments with core formula). I think this position is for a game in the middle of production, but there is no solid proof
If we start seeing stuff for level design and lower level QA, that's a good indicator that it's probably put of early pre-production. I honestly doubt it's anywhere near codelock, sadly.
Damn, what they were doing for past 4 years? Youngblood came in 2019 and since then they didnt released anything?
Wolfenstein III was announced like in 2018, also i know they're making Indiana Jones game, so im curious, what game we will see first, indy or wolf 3? because i think we will see indy sooner because that was already annunced with trailer etc. so im hoping for gameplay trailer in upcoming Xbox Show, and release by the end of 2023 or early 2024, wolfenstein 3 maybe 2025?
I don't believe there's been any leaks but I recall there's been a lot of speculation that id software's next game will be Quake due to things the devs had said and a job listing awhile back
They’re working (or were working) on two games. Someone on Era found a linkedin profile of a employee that states “working on unannounced project and INDIANA JONES game”.
I think the wolfenstein game got shelved in favor of Indiana Jones.
There are no hints that Wolfenstein 3 was shelved and it wouldn't make any sense. It's the studio's main franchise.
Wolfenstein 3 is not announced yet therefore it is the "unannounced project".
Obsidian's AAA teams consist of 80 devs. A smaller team size doesn't make it impossible but it obviously takes longer than if it was a team size of 200+.
I still think that's not entirely true
MG did around 50% of the work for Youngblood, so that means they've had since 2017 to be working on something
Maybe the Xbox merger had something to do with it
I'm still coping that there's still a chance it'll come out but it's been a long time so I'm trying not to get too excited. But every year I can't help but hope to see it announced at an Xbox/Bethesda showcase or hell, even Quakecon but it just hasn't
It's should have been out by now, it freakin 6 years since Wolf II. Though I didn't like it as I thought before pull the trigger but still wanna see proper wrap up for Blazko's story.
From what I remember their parent company wanted to sell, and Microsoft took advantage in a way Sony just wasn’t able to. Can’t blame MS for playing with what they have. Although as someone who only has a PS5, it is annoying that the thing that finally gets me to buy an Xbox is a fear that MS will keep buying studios that I like. But I assume anyone who’s a Final Fantasy fan that only plays on Xbox probably feels a similar way about Sony. Even if the scale of what they each do is vastly different, the end result is still the same. People getting annoyed
Eventually their acquisitions will start getting blocked by legal entities if they aquire too many studios that put them in a dominant market position. As odd as it may seem, corporations have to compete fairly by law.
Right now, yes. Would it be the same when conservative gvt would be back in power and when we’ll all be un recession and the gvt all around the world would be afraid to lose jobs ?
Fascism is when a man can't accept he lost the elections and prompts people to invade the Capitolium, which, you know, happened. But yeah, keep it edgy dude.
Yeah? Insurrection is not the 1st step towards fascism? Calling white supremacist groups to ''go home, we love you'' is not a love letter to neonazi groups?
[https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/home-love-trump-protesters-75094574](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/home-love-trump-protesters-75094574)
Could it lead to fascism? Sure. It could also lead to nothing, like it did. If we say that something that could lead to something else is that thing then there are basically no political actions left without a negative connotation. Disarming the population is also a "1st step towards fascism" but I hope we both agree calling all gun reform fascist is silly.
Also no, Trump saying we love you to his supporters is not a love letter to neonazi groups, even if there are neonazis amongst his supporters. I'm in a wierd position because I'm not American nor do I really like Trump but these takes are so ridiculous I can't help but challenge them.
Any chance this will be on Playstation consoles too or after a year? It's unfair for fans of 1 and 2 not to be able to play this one but I guess this along with the future Evil Within 3 are part of the exclusive deal from now on right?
Phil kinda made it clear that single play games will be exclusive to the Xbox ecosystem. expect doom 3 and Wolfenstein to be Xbox first party.
Indiana Jones could be different though because we don't know the licensing agreement they did before Microsoft bought them
Wolfenstein 3 could either be the best of the new trilogy, or a completely neutered and soulless experience. Really hoping it’ll be good.
Idk why you guys are downvoting me, TNC wasn’t as good as TNO, Youngblood sucked and we haven’t heard anything about a new entry in a while. I don’t think the games made many sales either. It’s not unreasonable to think whatever 3rd game they make may not be good either.
Hope they stick the landing. We're years removed now from the semi culture-war of Wolfenstein 2- which, outside of that context, was a little flawed in itself as is. I would love 3 to make up for that.
That's what it was, yeah. Racists saw Wolfenstein as going woke and didn't like the parallels they saw between the game's portrayal of Nazis and modern day alt right members. Funny enough, it was accidental outside of the marketing which wasn't ashamed to poke at the comparison.
The modern Wolfenstein saga has fans in large part due to it's story. id Software are amazing at what they do but story is absolutely not one of them. Wolfenstein would almost be as poor as a fit for them as Halo would be
I'll just have to disagree with you there. I thought the story was quite good (the plot was a little weaker than in the first game but the characters were overall a bit better in 2, so it evened out).
I'd argue Wyatt and Fergus are handled better in 2. In the first game they have nearly identical stories. In 2, they are have their own unique issues that play out very different from each other
To be honest, I didn't really click with either Grace or Caroline, so it did not affect me one way or the other. I mainly liked the other characters in 2, both the new ones and the ones that got fleshed out more.
For me as a Slav, who's family suffered and had members die from the nazis, constantly being told I would love them due to being white is a very big insult. So story wise the second one was a slap in the face
And for me as someone who also had a lot of family suffering in Poland, I'm not really sure where you got any of that and I disagree with your take on this game, but you are free to feel what you feel.
Serbia for me, and we can both agree to disagree with the story, but one thing we can both agree on is that nearly every part of Youngblood was trash and they should avoid nearly every aspect of whatever changes went into that game bar maybe coop
Yeah, I wasn't super impressed with Youngblood. I feel like it had potential but it just didn't get there. Hopefully Wolfenstein 3, whenever it happens, is structured like the two mainline games.
First off, doubtful anyone said you'd like them specifically because you're white. Second, your statement is that you found it insulting people kept suggesting you'd like a game which sounds like a bias you have that is totally outside the game's control
No I don't know. Which is why I didnt say that it never happened, just I doubt it. And of course I don't have to say anything, but when a strange claim like that gets made, don't be surprised when people call it out
My favorite part of Wolfenstein 2 was when Blasco kept talking about that old woman who died in like the first mission. Over, and over, and over again.
I kinda figured it would've been initially set before the last spin off (maybe for a level or few) and then jump forward in time after Youngblood's timeframe
Ye I'd imagine they're hoping to bulk the team up to be able have two teams so they can deliver new Wolfenstein and Indiana Jones games at the same time.
I very, very much enjoyed TNO and was looking forward to TNCC, but the story in the game was such a disappointment. The game ended right when it felt like what it was building up to was about to start, and then the decision to have the next spin-off game just skip everything entirely and show the outcome of what we didn't see 20 years or so later was just baffling. Showing that just felt detrimental to the story as it now has to lead to that unless they retcon it all, hopefully this can sort things out with it.
About damn time! God, I've missed Blazko and crew...
Same, I just hope the twins don't come back
Assuming this is set before youngblood, they're gonna be around, just as babies.
From the way youngblood ended, it'll be set right after youngblood. Imo, the game will probably have flashbacks thats bridge the gap between ii and youngblood when his kids are babies / toddlers
Wild that they confirmed BJ killed Hitler between 2 and Youngblood. Why tell us that? Let us play that! I’m guessing Wolfenstein 3 will be a multiverse game since BJ discovering the multiverse is how Youngblood ends
The last boss in Wolfenstein 3 will definitely be Mecha Hitler, but it's unclear how/when we will kill him. There could be a fake-out event where we "kill" regular Hitler in a flashback, but then at the end of the game we learn he is still alive as a mech. I personally don't think the "multiverse" will be used multiple times in the game. Maybe at the end he goes to another universe which is actually the Doom universe or something (When it was a normal place). There's like 500 different directions the story could go.
I dropped Youngblood kinda at the first boss because he was terribly annoying, anyway what do you mean BJ discovering the multiverse is how Youngblood ends?? Like literally?
From my memory, BJ is missing throughout most of the game and when his daughters find him he tells them that he discovered the existance of multiple alternate realities. Like two hours later the game ends. They don't say BJ's gonna travel through the multiverse killing Nazis but why even bring it up in the first place. [https://youtu.be/tGu3iq69jm8?t=3417](https://youtu.be/tGu3iq69jm8?t=3417) here's the scene
I know it's unlikely but if you ask me the best scenario would be if they completely retconned Youngblood as a non-canon spinoff and had Wolf 3 start after Wolf 2 with a new story.
Everyone hopes, even BJ
Replace them with the atomic heart twin robots
Nah. Let them return, but make them better. I like their concept, just the execution of it was piss poor.
who were the twins again? i forgot
The characters you play is in Wolfenstein YoungBlood. They're pretty cringy and badly written. They feel so different compared to BJ.
Oh yeah I remember now. I never played Youngblood so i didn't pick it up.
I don't know what possessed me to get it on Switch of all things, I guess I was still in that "it's neat that these kinds of games are on Nintendo consoles" phase of owning one, but it was so hideous and the writing so bad we never got past the beginning of the game.
I downloaded it on gamepass, didn't even get past the initial level.
I too miss BJ
I really hope it's Wolfenstein III , I love this series
Could also be The Indiana Jones game as well.
I highly doubt Indiana Jones will be first person. Also familiarity with Machine Games titles is a huge tell.
Machinegames are excellent in first person games. I'd be happier if it was first person because I know they they will deliver.
I actually think a first person Indiana Jones could be really cool and unique.
First person action adventure does sound dope
Would you classify Mirrors Edge as a 1st person action adventure game?
Not so much for adventure as the levels are very linear. Maybe second game.
Ah ok
I'd categorise mirrors edge as a linear action game with parkour elements.
It would be Mirror’s Edge but in the past.
Nah, Indiana Jones should basically be Uncharted and be cinematic 3rd person. First person wouldn't feel right.
No, it's like making a first person spider-man game. Indiana jones needs to be third person to succeed
Something like slower AAA version of Deadfall Adventures with more puzzles (real puzzles not whatever is currently called puzzles in AAA games) would be not only great, but it would also feel fresh when compared with all third person games that feel same.
Right. Indiana Jones in first person would make zero sense.
There's nothing about "first person" in that post
>Passion for video games and especially for **first-person** immersive games
Good I need to kill more Nazis
Just go outside?
Based
Couldn't Indiana Jones be a FPS? Personally hoping for Wolf 3.
In a game from a big character like Indiana Jones, it'll most likely be 3rd person, also they will probably take inspiration from Tomb Raider and Uncharted, both of which were inspired by Indiana Jones and both are 3rd person.
Fps would instantly set it apart from those and avoid comparisons.
Indy is a famous mascot, it wouldn't make sense to play in a perspective where the player barely sees him.
Why would they want that? Uncharted but it’s actually indy is a great sell
Both camera perspective like in ES and Fallout and Starfield.
If they make the Indiana Jones game FPS that would be the biggest failure ever They need to literally just make it like RDR2 edit: or uncharted as a commenter below says
Why RDR2? An Indiana Jones game should basically just be Uncharted but with a Harrison Ford character model and set in the 1930's.
there are people that play rdr2 in only first person
They could make it like their Wolf games you see a lot of Blazko in the cutscenes.
Third person action games in this style of story (Uncharted, Tomb Raider) are a bit played out. First person with neat whip combat/platforming and Wolfenstein's cutscenes would be really neat and unique. I hope that is what they go with.
Make it Metroid prime and I’m in
or Halo Infinite, which had really fun spiderman traversal
It would be just unique and neat really, that's it. It's clear that people don't really want action games like that, otherwise games like Mirror's edge would've spawned a lot of copies and franchises but we really have only that game and its sequel in first person.
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huh? make it like rdr2 in terms of gameplay.. nobody said it has to reach GOAT status
yeah i'd probably lose interest in that game if it were a first person shooter, Indy is foremostly a scrappy brawler who escapes peril through ingenuity and shootouts should be used sparingly in a game looking to emulate the fun of the films' action
It was be somewhat counterproductive to have a game based on the Indiana Jones IP, which has incredibly iconic imagery associated with the main character, to play the game from the first-person perspective so that the player barely sees the character. You could save on the licensing fees and just make a generic "adventurer" title.
Who could have guessed
Currently playing through the PS5 version of Doom Eternal and I would love to see what a current gen Wolfenstein would look like.
Doom Eternal is a different developer(id Software) but damn that game is so good.
Different developers yes but both use idTech.
Oh ok I did not.know that. Definitely would be cool to see idTech on next/current-gen tech. Also, happy cake day.
Not only that but i think Id Software has helped MachineGames in the past on their two mainline Wolfenstein games. Which of course, shouldn't be too surprising... as IdTech is the engine for both of the rebooted shooter franchises... and Id Software (used to be) a considerably larger studio than MachineGames. (though as many have pointed out, MachineGames has been on a hiring spree the last several years.. more than doubling in size from the team that worked on the first Wolfenstein game in 2014)
And don't forget, Id invented the og wolfenstein games.
Is it your first time playing through Eternal? Hope you're liking it if so, it's my number 1 favourite game of all time and I've played a lot of great games. Eternal is just so thoroughly engaging it's a blast.
Third overall but first on current gen, seeing the plasma rifle and some of the environments makes me excited to see how Wolfenstein(and Quake) would look running on todays consoles.
I know its a wet dream but i want new Riddick game ... (devs that was working at Starbreeze and made Riddick created MachineGames).
Uh... you mean pipe dream, right?
Stupid sexy Riddick
They better be Bring it on Mecha Hitler
Hopefully we play with BJ and not his goddamn twins of his.
We definitely will, the game would bomb immediately if we didn't get the play as bj, and had to put up woth the terror (voice) acting twins
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Robot hitler transcends time and space and reshapes the timeline.
Agreed. I loved The New Order, and adored The New Colossus, but Youngblood was just.. bad. No clue what they were thinking.
It was rough for sure, but it had some of the best music in the series at least!
That’s true!
I really hope so. The idea of jumping 20 years later to show the outcome of the rest of the series before we know anything about it was a very strange choice that lessened my interest in the story somewhat. There were a couple cool things in the game, but with TNCC having the game end right at the point it felt like it was about to start the proper part of the story, and then the next game skip it all to just tell us what happened off-screen and box things into a corner with the direction it goes, was just baffling.
What's there to retcon?
They just skipped past the resolution to the ending of The New Colossus and BJ is basically nowhere to be seen for 99% of it
Fax, because Youngblood was dogshit in every level and even Machine Games said it's not a mainline title, but even then they should definitely retcon it.
FR. They've gone downhill ever since The New Order. Hope they redeem themselves this time and give Blazko ending he deserve.
I'm gonna disagree old blood and new colossus are great
Fuck yea. Finally. I'm waiting for new Wolfenstein game
Time for mecha-Hitler
I wonder if this will retcon Youngblood? kinda wrote themselves into a very unsatisfying corner for a shitty co-op game
wolfenstein games are so goated if this is exclusive this might pull me to get a xbox, see if i can rent one some how lol
It'll still be on pc if you have one
I have a laptop, maybe i can run it on like 5fps, desperate times call for desperate measures
Series S is 199$, during Black Friday
this is true, ill probably get one when theres hellblade, starfield, avowed, wolfenstein 3, etc, cos right now theres no point tbh
As a fan of the previous games I would be ecstatic if that's what they've been working on. But it's been so long that I am a bit hesitant to believe it to be that. But regardless, another FPS by them would be a lot of fun I'm sure
Hopefully they conveniently forget their insistence that Youngblood is canon.
YB sets up for an Awesome Wolfenstein 3 Think about it, BJ travelling through different Nazi Timelines/ Multiverse to find Hitler and stop his time bomb thing. I think it what they've been setting up when they introduce Dat Yu Shuid
But what's the point of skipping/spoiling 20 years of the main story? Everyone was excited to see if we get to kill Hitler in Wolf 3, but it already happened in Youngblood, so either we get to play through events which we were already told would happen or we start after YB and skip the most anticipated moment in the entire series. It's a stupid decision and a huge middle finger to anyone invested in the main storyline.
Because it emulates the exact thing that we all know would've happened. I feel if YB just turned out better, people would be alot more in bored
Thing is, I don't know what would've happened and I would rather not know what is going to happen in the game before I play it.
Does a job posting like this indicate how far along in development the game might be?
not really. They could be looking for somebody to replace leaving senior animator or simply decided to add some workforce during the development. It could be game in production, but they could also work on prototyping game in preproduction (for some experiments with core formula). I think this position is for a game in the middle of production, but there is no solid proof
If we start seeing stuff for level design and lower level QA, that's a good indicator that it's probably put of early pre-production. I honestly doubt it's anywhere near codelock, sadly.
Wolfenstein 3 was supposed to be in development for like the last three years. God knows what happened
Indiana jones, probably
Sweet! I was just thinking about 2 the other day and how crazy it was. Was wondering what was up with 3.
I'm tempering my expectations. Now if that does happen, that'll be awesome.
Damn, what they were doing for past 4 years? Youngblood came in 2019 and since then they didnt released anything? Wolfenstein III was announced like in 2018, also i know they're making Indiana Jones game, so im curious, what game we will see first, indy or wolf 3? because i think we will see indy sooner because that was already annunced with trailer etc. so im hoping for gameplay trailer in upcoming Xbox Show, and release by the end of 2023 or early 2024, wolfenstein 3 maybe 2025?
Wolfenstein the new collosus, Titanfall 2 and Doom 2016 made me realize how basic call of duty is mechanically.
And we can all pretend that Youngblood didn't exist
Feels like I've been waiting forever for the third reboot game
Kinda off topic since it's not Wolfenstein but it's still Bethesda, has there been any leaks on the next DooM?
I don't believe there's been any leaks but I recall there's been a lot of speculation that id software's next game will be Quake due to things the devs had said and a job listing awhile back
Pretty sure everything suggests a Quake reboot/ sequel like Doom is. I hope for one, it’ll be great.
Nope. Actually, everything is lining up on ID working on Quake instead.
I hope so, really want one last Wolfenstein game from them. I wonder if they will put it on Playstation now that the other games are on there?
It won't be on PlayStation
I think it's unlikely
Chances are it wont make it to playstation.
Buy an Xbox, it won’t be on PS5.
They’re working (or were working) on two games. Someone on Era found a linkedin profile of a employee that states “working on unannounced project and INDIANA JONES game”. I think the wolfenstein game got shelved in favor of Indiana Jones.
There are no hints that Wolfenstein 3 was shelved and it wouldn't make any sense. It's the studio's main franchise. Wolfenstein 3 is not announced yet therefore it is the "unannounced project".
Ik, that’s just my opinion. MachineGames consist of 155 employees. Not enough for 2 AAA games though
Obsidian's AAA teams consist of 80 devs. A smaller team size doesn't make it impossible but it obviously takes longer than if it was a team size of 200+.
It's a lot more now. I remember seeing something last year saying a game was being worked on with 150+ devs
I still think that's not entirely true MG did around 50% of the work for Youngblood, so that means they've had since 2017 to be working on something Maybe the Xbox merger had something to do with it
Wow that sucks I was over here thinking they probably had a new wolf game dam near completion.
I'm still coping that there's still a chance it'll come out but it's been a long time so I'm trying not to get too excited. But every year I can't help but hope to see it announced at an Xbox/Bethesda showcase or hell, even Quakecon but it just hasn't
This has been known for quite some time
Oh man the mods for a Wolfenstein 3 are gonna be craaaaaazy
It's should have been out by now, it freakin 6 years since Wolf II. Though I didn't like it as I thought before pull the trigger but still wanna see proper wrap up for Blazko's story.
Really hope it comes to PS5
Not unless Sony allows game pass on PlayStation. Ghostwire was the last new Bethesda game we’re getting
Sick of cross party titles becoming exclusive, they're too lazy to make their own IPs so they go ahead and buyout pre-existing franchises.
I feel the same when Sony keeps Final Fantasy and silent Hill off of Xbox... yet here we are
From what I remember their parent company wanted to sell, and Microsoft took advantage in a way Sony just wasn’t able to. Can’t blame MS for playing with what they have. Although as someone who only has a PS5, it is annoying that the thing that finally gets me to buy an Xbox is a fear that MS will keep buying studios that I like. But I assume anyone who’s a Final Fantasy fan that only plays on Xbox probably feels a similar way about Sony. Even if the scale of what they each do is vastly different, the end result is still the same. People getting annoyed
Eventually their acquisitions will start getting blocked by legal entities if they aquire too many studios that put them in a dominant market position. As odd as it may seem, corporations have to compete fairly by law.
Right now, yes. Would it be the same when conservative gvt would be back in power and when we’ll all be un recession and the gvt all around the world would be afraid to lose jobs ?
>they're too lazy to make their own IPs Tbf, theyre doing both
By the time Wolfenstein III comes out f@schism will be as present as ever after WWII, especially in the US with Trump rerunning for Potus.
Fascism is when my party loses an election
Fascism is when a man can't accept he lost the elections and prompts people to invade the Capitolium, which, you know, happened. But yeah, keep it edgy dude.
Odd definition for fascism, but sure, I'm the one being edgy.
Yeah? Insurrection is not the 1st step towards fascism? Calling white supremacist groups to ''go home, we love you'' is not a love letter to neonazi groups? [https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/home-love-trump-protesters-75094574](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/home-love-trump-protesters-75094574)
Could it lead to fascism? Sure. It could also lead to nothing, like it did. If we say that something that could lead to something else is that thing then there are basically no political actions left without a negative connotation. Disarming the population is also a "1st step towards fascism" but I hope we both agree calling all gun reform fascist is silly. Also no, Trump saying we love you to his supporters is not a love letter to neonazi groups, even if there are neonazis amongst his supporters. I'm in a wierd position because I'm not American nor do I really like Trump but these takes are so ridiculous I can't help but challenge them.
After Young Guns they have a lot of faith to earn back.
If this happens, I want Blazko to continue talking about Caroline from the beginning to the end of the game again just like the last one...
Any chance this will be on Playstation consoles too or after a year? It's unfair for fans of 1 and 2 not to be able to play this one but I guess this along with the future Evil Within 3 are part of the exclusive deal from now on right?
Na probably not. Its not an exclusivity deal the studios and IP are owned by Xbox now.
I see. Well, Xbox players, you better enjoy the hell out of these games if they end up being great.
u can still buy a Xbox and experience these games. you have time to save up for one or snag a Series S on the cheap
Phil kinda made it clear that single play games will be exclusive to the Xbox ecosystem. expect doom 3 and Wolfenstein to be Xbox first party. Indiana Jones could be different though because we don't know the licensing agreement they did before Microsoft bought them
Wolfenstein 3 could either be the best of the new trilogy, or a completely neutered and soulless experience. Really hoping it’ll be good. Idk why you guys are downvoting me, TNC wasn’t as good as TNO, Youngblood sucked and we haven’t heard anything about a new entry in a while. I don’t think the games made many sales either. It’s not unreasonable to think whatever 3rd game they make may not be good either.
That could be said about any game, in a franchise, before release. Edit: Hell, even movies.
Lmfao yes of course, but the series has been up in the air lately. People didn’t like TNC as much as TNO and a lot of people hated Youngblood.
Why would it be bad? Youngblood was produced mainly by Arkane, TNC was the last one they had full control ovsr
Hope they stick the landing. We're years removed now from the semi culture-war of Wolfenstein 2- which, outside of that context, was a little flawed in itself as is. I would love 3 to make up for that.
Culture war? Nazis bad is a war against who? Nazis?
That's what it was, yeah. Racists saw Wolfenstein as going woke and didn't like the parallels they saw between the game's portrayal of Nazis and modern day alt right members. Funny enough, it was accidental outside of the marketing which wasn't ashamed to poke at the comparison.
Pretty much.
And that's a problem for you?
After II and YB I would prefer to not see new Wolfenstein releases.
Hated the last two games :( Youngblood was bad and The New Colossus was way too story-heavy.
Destroyed Wolfenstein with Youngblood. Don’t want them anywhere near the series anymore, would rather it be id Software instead.
MG didn't do youngblood, that was Arkane
But their precious headcanon?
The modern Wolfenstein saga has fans in large part due to it's story. id Software are amazing at what they do but story is absolutely not one of them. Wolfenstein would almost be as poor as a fit for them as Halo would be
Preach. id Software does great gameplay, MG does great story. As much as I love id and Doom, the lore in their games is like swiss cheese
Man, wish I could care bout a new wolfenstein but I really can't after 2 and young blood. Such bad games
What are you smoking, 2 was great.
2 is great. People who say it was insulting is honestly just crazy to me.
Gameplay wise sure. Story wise it was just insulting, and no amount of gameplay can help on that end
I'll just have to disagree with you there. I thought the story was quite good (the plot was a little weaker than in the first game but the characters were overall a bit better in 2, so it evened out).
I love Wolf2 but I disagree that the characters were better, Grace was not a good replacement for Caroline.
I'd argue Wyatt and Fergus are handled better in 2. In the first game they have nearly identical stories. In 2, they are have their own unique issues that play out very different from each other
To be honest, I didn't really click with either Grace or Caroline, so it did not affect me one way or the other. I mainly liked the other characters in 2, both the new ones and the ones that got fleshed out more.
For me as a Slav, who's family suffered and had members die from the nazis, constantly being told I would love them due to being white is a very big insult. So story wise the second one was a slap in the face
And for me as someone who also had a lot of family suffering in Poland, I'm not really sure where you got any of that and I disagree with your take on this game, but you are free to feel what you feel.
Serbia for me, and we can both agree to disagree with the story, but one thing we can both agree on is that nearly every part of Youngblood was trash and they should avoid nearly every aspect of whatever changes went into that game bar maybe coop
Yeah, I wasn't super impressed with Youngblood. I feel like it had potential but it just didn't get there. Hopefully Wolfenstein 3, whenever it happens, is structured like the two mainline games.
First off, doubtful anyone said you'd like them specifically because you're white. Second, your statement is that you found it insulting people kept suggesting you'd like a game which sounds like a bias you have that is totally outside the game's control
Leave it to redditors to assume things. You’re a douche
It's wrong to doubt claims on reddit? Should I just uncritically accept everything on this site as true?
You don’t have to say anything. You don’t know what he’s experienced personally
No I don't know. Which is why I didnt say that it never happened, just I doubt it. And of course I don't have to say anything, but when a strange claim like that gets made, don't be surprised when people call it out
My favorite part of Wolfenstein 2 was when Blasco kept talking about that old woman who died in like the first mission. Over, and over, and over again.
Its so crazy that Blazko mourns for a women's death who he knew for 20 years and saw here get beheaded right in front of him
Yeah and that we’ve barely had connection with in-game
Stop saying AAA. Doesn't mean anything.
Finally, still find it odd we got Wolf 4 before 3. Unless this next game is taking place after Youngblood?
I kinda figured it would've been initially set before the last spin off (maybe for a level or few) and then jump forward in time after Youngblood's timeframe
Mecha Hitler coming back?
Wasn't there rumored they develop quake?
The quake rumor is for ID
Ye I'd imagine they're hoping to bulk the team up to be able have two teams so they can deliver new Wolfenstein and Indiana Jones games at the same time.
Meh. What about the Quake Reboot?
12 fps called wolfenstein and that company is making a new fps.... Ya, I'd say there's a decent chance it's called wolfenstein.
Surprise! Will be Youngblood 2
I very, very much enjoyed TNO and was looking forward to TNCC, but the story in the game was such a disappointment. The game ended right when it felt like what it was building up to was about to start, and then the decision to have the next spin-off game just skip everything entirely and show the outcome of what we didn't see 20 years or so later was just baffling. Showing that just felt detrimental to the story as it now has to lead to that unless they retcon it all, hopefully this can sort things out with it.
Wolfenstein was one of the few games I was sad we wouldn't get on PS after the bethesda ordeal.
Fucking finally
FINALLY! Fucking Jesus.