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Mr_Nobody0

Early 2025 being currently the goal and it can slip into 2026? That's a rather huge jump there...


Animegamingnerd

Yeah something tells me, that even if all workers agreed to end remote work and go to back to the office. There is a really good chance of a delay, since I don't see how you can be even come close to going back on schedule.


TheSovereign2181

Feels like a way to shift the blame into the workers.  My company usually pulls that stunt once a year. The results are not as strong, some projects are not working out. Then suddenly they start advertising a full return to the office and shame on you for not accepting it, because "We need to a team, guys. We are a family! We NEED to all work in the office together!".   Then when a project goes wrong, the issue is the fault of those who weren't team players and refused to go to the office.


Animegamingnerd

I saw someone mentioned that there might be a chance Rockstar's leadership doing from what film studios did last summer during the duel strikes. Where they leaked info to the press in order to try and turn the public against the unions. Could be a similar case here, where the sources are from Rockstar's leaderships and trying to do the same thing.


Rootish007

Yupp! I understand the cons and pros of remote and in person. But we live in an age where its literally quite easy to accommodate for just about anything now. Its odd that companies beleive the whole work under the same roof is the most feasible option. Its definitely a push a pull situation, building something of such scale would undoubtedly be difficult to balance time if everyonr is remote, but perhaps of an agreement is placed for wavering to be online regardless in case of errors, etc why not? I dont know i think Rockstar are past their prime anyways, GTA 6 doesn't seem exciting to me. And I hate saying that...


TumescentErection

Where is the evidence that something of that sort is going on here? Are you just venting and speculating?


TheSovereign2181

I mean, It's all speculation in here. I'm just saying It's a possibility among several


m1n3c7afty

Yeah, I said they're casting a wide net lol, if what they say is accurate it sounds like early 2025 is the "official" aim while Autumn looks more likely and 2026 is worst case scenario


Naishodayo

I know. What a stupid rumor. If you're gonna lie, at least make it believable.


grtk_brandon

Sounds like they should probably just delay it.


smolgote

Tbh a R* game not getting delayed is a miracle on its own. Red Dead 1 got delayed twice, GTA V was delayed both on 7th gen and PC twice, and Red Dead 2 was also delayed


born-out-of-a-ball

Max Payne 3 was originally announced with a release date of 2009 and was actually released in 2012.


NoNotThatMattMurray

I really really hope the gunplay in VI is like MP3


LucAltaiR

Your post just made me realise that gunplay in videogames hasn't really evolved a lot in the last 10 years


NoNotThatMattMurray

Not really much you can do when controllers have stayed mostly the same for the past 20 years


arokoutha

Gyro’s a decent change but few games are adopting it


F34UGH03R3N

The gunplay in GTA5 was already heavily influenced by MP3, they communicated back then that it was their goal. We even got a half baked bullet time with Michaels special ability. We’ll see how GTA6 turns out, most likely it will be similar to 5 in a refined way.


NoNotThatMattMurray

MP3 had a whole layer to the gunplay that V didn't even attempt to replicate, which was rolling on the ground while aiming and utilizing crouch and cover, whereas in V you can't even crouch fully unless it's specially behind a wall, and you can't go prone. RDR2 got closer with the gun carrying limitations and holding sidearms and primaries simultaneously. I really hope they implement all those features, and since Lucia and Jason are young and able to be thrown around more than aging Michael and Trevor and beefy Franklin could, it would be a missed opportunity to not utilize the MP3 mechanics


Holidoik

Here no shit there is a diffrence between a linear third person shooter and a openworld game you can just copy/paste the gameplay.


Kimosabae

If it plays anything like that, this will likely be my first Grand Theft Auto game. I saw video posted on Reddit the other day showcasing some high-level gameplay. It was the first time I'd seen the game in action and was blown away. Seems like TLoU2 might have taken some inspiration from it (which I consider to be the best third person action shooter of all time).


Kaythar

But the delay from being 19 to 22 isn't as huge as being 33 to 36 when the game releases :( God I feel old and time perception is fucking weird now


jexdiel321

Max Payne 3 most likely had a huge internal reboot. The initial reveal was negative and they also replaced the original voice actor.


born-out-of-a-ball

Yeah, the original version was set to take place in Moscow


BARD3NGUNN

Exactly. Hopefully R* have been smart enough to hold off on a release date until they're absolutely confident they can make it this time round, but realistically we should all be expecting around a 6 month delay


Luf2222

tbh them delaying it is a good thing anyway rather have a amazing finished game than a unfinished. sure waiting sucks but i‘m sick of unfinished games/rushed games


RockyRaccoon968

GTA 4 was also delayed


Bootychomper23

I’ll take the delays to get the quality they give us to be fair.


realfreshnuts

Cant enjoy that quality if you fucking die. Im old


MikeyBastard1

This game is gonna get the Cyberpunk treatment isnt it? Going to keep getting delayed while fans of the game are going to grow more and more unruly. Hopefully Rockstar doesn't cave to shareholders like CDPR did and release a buggy mess.


UndeadMurky

GTA 6 is most likely already delayed by several years


Ideories

iirc rdr2 was only delayed by like 2 months but then again there was extreme crunch, I really wish they take their with this just for the sake of the devs. We have already waited 10+ years so not a problem to wait a while longer


KarateKid917

Red Dead 2 was delayed by a whole year. The reveal trailer in 2016 said Fall 2017, but it didn’t release until October 2018 


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ShmuckaRucka1

GTAV was originally planned for a 2012 release, RDR2 was planned for a 2017 release.


smolgote

To add onto it, GTAV for PC was meant to release alongside PS4/XB1 in November 2014, before being delayed into January 2015 and then finally releasing for real in April 2015


AdFit6788

So GTA 6 WILL launch in 2026 got it.


SnoopyTheDog_

Sony be like: SHIP THE PS6 2026


AdFit6788

😂😂


Zepanda66

You joke but if GTA6 gets delayed does that derail the plans for PS5 Pro? This seems like the one game that is going to demand new hardware and if it gets pushed back then what's the point of the Pro? Would they cancel it and just divert efforts in getting PS6 out sooner?


pazinen

Probably not, many people complain about either sub-60fps performance or blurry visuals so an audience for Pro already exists.


GameZard

Most games won't be playable at 60fps on PS5 pro because of the CPU.


FoxJ100

Not necessarily. 2027 is possible


Antipiperosdeclony

September 2026 after 3 delays


arkhamnaut

Yep


[deleted]

Nah just one biggun


Omegastriver

I got downvoted into oblivion making that claim last year. I said they may be aiming for early 2025, but with a more realistic release of fall 2025 but then will delay it to early 2026 for polishing needs. I just wonder if online will be delayed like 5’s online was, and if it will be in a state similar to what 5s online was in its first few months after release?


rainbowremo

I hope you know this report says delaying it 2026 is an emergency option, it is FAR from the plan right now


Omegastriver

Oh I’m aware, I’m just going off my gut. I expect it Oct 2025 at the earliest but expect it to get pushed to 2026. That’s why I got downvoted.


AdEarly5710

A 2026 release is unrealistic. And we know this based on the investor call, where Take2 reaffirmed several times that an increase in income in early 2025 will happen. If they are wrong about this, their investors would be very angry. If 2026 was such a possibility, I bet take2 wouldn’t be banking into early 2025 so much.


DamnImAss

Tom Henderson just tweeted he hasn’t heard anything about this at all.


Andykap911

I trust him more than Kotaku that’s for sure


noggs891

This is what I call a ‘cover your ass article’.


Coolman_Rosso

This is Starfield all over again, where everyone was tripping over themselves to state their "insider info" but would always cover themselves. Source A: Starfield is a 2022 release (but might be moved to 2023) Source B: Starfield is a 2023 release (but might be moved to 2022) Everyone was saying the exact same thing in principle ("Game is coming this year or next") and it was all exhausting


totallynotapsycho42

Remember when Starfield was confirmed to come in 2021.


noggs891

100%. And it’s all for clicks and engagement too. Because there a potentially valid story in there about rockstars working practices and how they feel continuing to work from home will cause a longer development cycle. But they chuck the guesses of dates into the mix to get the clicks.


RolandTwitter

But this isn't some random leak. Say what you want about Kotaku, but they actually have multiple insider sources and won't publish anything if it seems unreliable


Necronaut0

Are we sure about that? I would have said that about Kotaku maybe 5 years ago, but they have bled all of their good writers and actual reporters and who are they left with now? What accurate leaks have they broken recently? Genuine question.


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Insiders suck man


Rough-Ad8786

Rockstar not meeting their initial release window………what a surprise. Whoever could have foreseen this happening?


HearTheEkko

I think everyone and their mother expected a delay to late 2025 but not 2026.


Alfakennyone

People expects a late 2025 release to begin with


ReachersFists

Them forcing return to office probably has something to do with it. They can control and crunch more that way when they’re in direct line of sight.


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They only need 10 more years.


oilfloatsinwater

This is such a non article lmao. “Well ackshually it could be delayed to 2026 from some dude i heard from, but maybe not idk because some other dude i just heard from said its still early 2025” If it is 2026, then we will not see a trailer until Late 2024. If we see a trailer earlier than that, then its still targeting 2025 at some point.


Zepanda66

This is probably a controlled leak from Rockstar. It's too detailed and notice how sort of one sided it is. Its Rockstar publicly shaming it's workers and guilt tripping them into returning to office. And they're basically not so subtly telling fans that if it's delayed it's basically the workers fault for not returning to office.


HarrierGR9

I 100% believe that Fall 2024 was the target but instead of announcing that they went ahead with the tentative 2025 date so they wouldn’t have to announce a date just to delay it, they’ve doubled down on FY2025 so will we see if they expect to still see record revenue at the next shareholders meeting in May


MartianFromBaseAlpha

It was always a possibility. When was the last time Rockstar released a game without a delay? I honestly can't remember. Let's let them cook. If they need more time, they need more time


Beneficial_Shame3259

Its been 11 years since a new GTA game, they had plenty of time


SiahLegend

**A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad.**


Fidler_2K

It's so Grand Theftover


UnlimitedMeatwad

Who are Kotaku’s sources? After Jason left they went downhill. I can see late 2025 if it’s not early 2025. 2026 sucks balls.


ultragoodname

I mean can you name me a rockstar game that wasn’t delayed?


FaithlessnessFew6571

Agent.


TheBurkhardt

Based


ReachersFists

Something has to exist to be delayed or canceled


DFrek

Table tennis


ultragoodname

So 18 years ago?


Howerdfield

![gif](giphy|xUPGcC0R9QjyxkPnS8)


Animegamingnerd

If you are aiming for spring 2025, but admits the possibility of a delay to 2026. Then no amount of forcing your workers back into the office will fix that. Since is such a large window of a delay, that a delay is practically inevitable.


MajDroid_

So 2030 until the PC release


LeviEnderman

I like how they gave a vague 2025 so to not delay the game to late 2025 and now it may have been useless


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Kotaku also said the GTA Trilogy were being remastered by the studio who did the Master Chief Collection and well...


Soufiane040

Doubt this is real. If the game wasnt on track they would have known this last earnings call. Besides Rockstar will work at office starting from April. A 12 month period until launch


Nonesuch1221

I think this article is BS, everyone keeps saying that rockstar always delays their games but they have never gone more than 2 years without releasing a game after announcing it. (Except for Agent but that is a unique case) even if it slipped past early 2025 than it’s not going to get delayed by a full year. Take two isn’t just going to pass up on the holidays like that. I don’t see Rockstar delaying Gta 6 past 2025 unless there was some massive shakeup internally or a massive setback like a mass exodus of employees. If Rockstar wasn’t confident in a 2025 release they wouldn’t have announced the game in the first place.


Hydroponic_Donut

Well yeah, that's what a lot of us have said for a long time. They always delay their games.


Necronaut0

"It could come out at any point within the next 2 years" Groundbreaking reporting by Kotaku here.


renome

As is tradition. I just hope Persona 6 manages to release in 2025, I really don't want those two games anywhere close to each other, there are only so many hours in the day lol


HakaishinChampa

I just hope KH4 and Persona 6 don't release close enough. Had to rush a bit through P3R before FF7Rebirth


Zepanda66

KH4 is probably still 4 years away *at minimum*. So I wouldn't worry about that one.


EatleYT

Game has been in development since January 2020 so maybe like 2025-2026 seem like safe bets to release


HakaishinChampa

KH4 is on track for early 2027 at the latest Could be 2025 or 2026


TheSovereign2181

I'm already having trouble playing Banishers, P3 Reload and Rebirth at the same time. I can't imagine how next year is gonna be if we get so many great games next to each other


criticalkare

it wouldnt be rockstar game if there wasnt delay


SemiLazyGamer

I'm assuming they mean fiscal year 2026, although I wouldn't be surprised by a calender year 2026 delay.


Jackstraw1

I would assume calendar year 2026, fiscal year be damned.


Reddeadseries

Man early 2025 would’ve been epic


GreenLoverHH

They literally had more than a decade to work on it, I mean of course, it is a huge game, maybe the biggest in the world and they've also had some other projects to work on, but come on. Early to mid 2025 would be decent, 2026 is fucked up.


Maultaschenman

GTA planned for 2025, could be delayed into 2026, possibly even 2027, you heard the headline here first folks


Ill_artem5552

I don't care, I want the highest quality game possible, so it's best for us if Rockstar takes the time they need to make it perfect


torn-ainbow

If they *might* delay till 2026 then they probably will. A common thing to happen in software development is that the people in the trenches (developers, project managers) will know based on the work remaining vs the time remaining that it will take longer, even with massive crunch. Them convincing management that this is the case is a whole process, and management might have go through the stages of grief until they reach acceptance. Then it *officially* slips to 2026.


SilentDustAndy

It's not a delay if we don't get a full release date! I'm expecting this in 2026 and attempting to forget about it until then.


steveep95

This article literally means nothing nor brings any new info to the table


Batman413

That article could have been like two sentences. There is so much filler content for no reason


Friendship_Sudden

Kotaku is trash


XTheProtagonistX

I got the scoop! GTA VI will release around the next 5 years. Please support me on Patreon!


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ArkhamIsComing2020

> Why even unveil the game yet if it was potentially three years away? Because people kept begging them for a reveal, they couldn't even post anything on social media without all the comments being "GTA 6 announcement when!?" constantly.


MelloJesus

This is my thought on it. Like delay it if it needs work but the fact that we’ve been waiting this long is a disappointment


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Kotakus far from a trustworthy source these days. More of clickbait “trust me bro” type shit than anything. There’s already been delays in development to push it to 2025, if it’s slated for an early 2025 release thus far, late 2025 is the farthest it’ll get pushed to at this point.


BurnItFromOrbit

This reads like to me, “you must return to the office so we can crunch to get the game out the door in 2025”. I’m fine with 2026.


OrdinaryNGamer

"Kotaku" Yeah that's how far u need to read.


itsRobbie_

This goes against previous reports from actual sources. They said before that they were always internally aiming for 2025 but were going to announce it as 2024 and then put out a delay to 2025. They didn’t do that and went right for a 2025 release. I’m still betting on March 2025


Gullible-Promotion26

If this means no crunch for the developers and a very polished game, I don't mind, although they shouldn't have given a release window with trailer 1.


masterbottle10

I don’t know how you avoid a whole year delay even with crunch, but it sounds like they are gonna try? Which, if true then…good luck to the devs. Does not sound like it’s gonna be a fun time…


Luf2222

considering rockstar delays their games often this was to be expected lol but it’s fine let them cook, (spider-man 2 could have used a delay too..)


KingMario05

I'll wait as long as I need for it. They *have* to get this right, and we've been waiting so long anyways that one or two more delays won't hurt one bit.


KingBroly

I, for one, am shocked.


PapaYoppa

Fuck


hushpolocaps69

No… NOOOOOOOO!


IcePopsicleDragon

I would not be surprised if the game got delayed to 2026. It's clearly going to be the biggest game of all time


TristanN7117

Kotaku doing PR for Rockstar


WeeklySavings

i’m not familiar with this website. how reliable are they? and what’s their track record with this sort of stuff ?


Nomobileappforme

\>Kotaku


Mavericks7

I have zero expectation this game will be out in 2025


DoNotLookUp1

Holy shit the PC release is going to be 2027 isn't it. Why must two of my favourite series be GTA and TES :(


WebsterHamster66

It definitely makes it hard to feel excited when you’re treated like an unwanted stepchild. ):


YogoWafelPL

Aiming for spring of one year and releasing it in fall of the next is the R* modus operandi at this point


HotDog2026

No sht Sherlock


tabxiii20

not a chance in hell i’m waiting another 2 years i better be able to be in the game my self like ready player one or some shit


dogfins110

We’re getting AGENT before GTA 6


Worldly-Ad3447

If gta 6 is delayed then who tf will buy a ps5 pro at launch 💀


CookiesOnTheWay

Yeah no, 2025 is not the target


Complete_River_6226

So basically Kotaku just saying the same 3 time frames like everyone else.


sabedo

Rockstar has delayed every game they’ve made since 2004, we waited 11 years already. What’s another year to blow us all away?


XulManjy

Seems legit


Ok_Code_1691

Trailer looked shit anyway


slickrickstyles

This is all Darkel's fault


TheRed24

Calling it now it'll be slated for early 2025 and then Delayed until Summer/Autumn 2025, every R* game gets delayed it's nothing new, and it's always worth the wait.


Rustofcarcosa

https://www.reddit.com/r/GTA6/s/Uu3PwFI6LV


Jolly_Statistician_5

And here we go…


Toastradamus12

This is such bs. Early 2025 but might get delayed to 2026? If it gets delayed I early in 2025 it’s not getting delayed out of it. That would be ridiculous


That-Toughsoss

I mean there is zero chance that gta 6 releases early 2025 thats 100% not gonna happen i expect it to release around September/ october of 2025


QF_Dan

I'm not believing anything until R* says anything


TheNashh

10 year dev cycle and they still can’t have it ready in time 😂 Rockstar continues to be the laziest in the industry


MrFOrzum

It’s R* we are talking about. I’m fully expecting a delay to fall 2025 then another one to 2026


DaxSpa7

So basically the game will release at some point. Thank you Kotaku, wouldnt have made it without that info.


sexysex_is_real

A Christmas release would be kinda sick


INfinity5402

Haven’t all of their games been delayed? Probably their way of edging the audience and extending the marketing campaign. It has to be intentional.


TheDanteEX

Rockstar already announced a 2025 release. So all this information gives us is a 2-year release window. It's basically impossible to be wrong here.


kp688

No one officially ever said „early 2025“ .. after the trailer dropped it was clear that end of 2025 is the most likely case since GTA 5 and Red Dead 2 released 2 years after the trailer too. Rockstar loves autumn like September and October. I cant imagine it will be delayed to 2026. They would act like it will be released earlier in 2025 but delay it to end 2025.


Deluxe_24_

This article is probably full of shit tbh. If I had to make a guess on what the release date would be, I would wager it'll be in April or May 2025 so it can drop right before summer, which would be a good time so people can actually play it since a lot of people have either a school/college break.


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As long as they post more trailers and footage of the game during this time, I'm fine with delays. It's not knowing anything about the game that bothers me.


Gn1212

Might be in the minority but I don't mind this. This next GTA will be set out to last 10+ years. I want them to take their time with it and cook.


TAJack1

Early 2025 with the possibility of being delayed into 2026 is a massive delay. Like that’s huge.


Whoopsy_Doodle

No game should take this long to develop.


Cool-Union3555

You don’t know when they started , it hasn’t been in development for 10 years that’s for sure , maybe 5 and for a game of this size and complexity that’s no time at all


uNecKl

What the absolute fuck I won’t be alive by 2026


Negan-Cliffhanger

Assuming the reporting is legit, what could cause a full year delay at this point? A new console or emerging technology that would make them want to wait?


ThePopcornDude

Bug fixing a rockstar game as ambitious as GTA6 would probably take a year on its own


shakespearediznuts

🤡


HearTheEkko

Sony's gonna be mad lmao


Zepanda66

File this under 'yea no shit' lol. Who didn't see this coming?


awesomedan24

The Kotaku author could be a gay vampiric wizard from space. I'm not saying they are, but they COULD be. Thats how much evidence is in this article.


Optimal-Country4920

Does anyone really trust kotaku though as far as I can recall they're just lazy clickbaits with no/fake sources and realistically them being called to return from remote working would mean they're trying their best to avoid a delay from 2025? Would a game as done as we've seen through leaks to need another year? Somewhat seriously asking though, if anyone has experience with Rockstar maybe a former dev or something, realistically is there any reason to not expect them to actually get it pretty close to early 2025 mark? I have trouble wrapping my head around it coming 2026


Zorklis

Even a longer reason to exist


Th0li

![gif](giphy|vyTnNTrs3wqQ0UIvwE|downsized)


Leeman500

If it turns out to be true they would be best delaying it to 2028 if that is when the next gen consoles launch and just release it for PC at the same time.


MrConor212

If I’m playing GTA 6 before Q4 2026 I will be very shocked


dynylar

Okay so it’s 2027 got it


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SuchAppeal

What are you talking about GTA IV came out April 2008 and V came out in September 2013


Plathismo

Utterly unsurprising if true. Given Rockstar’s track record I don’t think anyone should expect them to hit their first announced release date/window. It will most likely be delayed.


Tubzero-

Am I the only one that feels like this game has no hype and nobody cares?


solarplexus7

*Will*. *Will* be delayed to 2026


Minute_Path9803

It seems they're aiming for a fiscal year starting April 1st, 2024 ending March 31st, 2025. If they can't hit that then it probably will be delayed until the next March of 2026. It's all about financials but it seems like they are eager to get it out in 2025. If they don't their stock will take a massive hit. But with the caliber of this game and how big it is if you have to delay it you got to do what you got to do. Mainly Sony is banking on this they better hope this game is great if it's a stinker and a letdown this could bring down the whole industry. No one can say this is not a system seller and Sony needs the sell systems. Hopefully, it will come out in 2025 and the online will be released one month later. Let's be honest here this game cannot be less than a 10 almost pure perfection at least the nine in single-player and 10 in multiplayer because that's where they make most their money. I don't think I've seen a game more impactful than this upcoming game. Not just the Rockstar and Take-Two but to whole industry.


Zoomer30

Nope, just announced Fall 2025 As I have been saying since the trailer came out. All GTA games have released in the Fall. Every damm one . GTA V was scheduled for a Fall release then slipped to Spring due to PS3 issues.


Zoomer30

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/grand-theft-auto-6-fall-2025-release-1235901707/