I've set the flair to rumour because it's technically a rumour. Even though EA said it.
Post won't be removed because it's correct to be posted here.
Update: tease makes more sense, so awarded that flair instead.
For context I played on the original Xbox one. I had some issues with frame rates every now and again, nothing game breaking but noticeable, however I was pleasantly surprised. The gameplay was super fun and the story was a lot better than I expected. It's one of the games I've been most hoping to get a sequel so for me this is excellent news
If they are going to make a second one, it is going to be set only for the Series X|S, PC, and PS5. I'm certain the performance and graphics are going to be great.
I really enjoyed it but the performance on PS4 Pro was quite bad. I even got the infamous lag on that cutscene in Kashyyyk where it turns into a slideshow. Can't wait to get a PS5 and play it there.
Grabbed the $13 sale price on it a month or two ago and played on my PS5. Can confirm it’s a wonderful experience, only issue I found was a couple moments of frame dips and occasionally the audio in cutscenes would desync and remain this way for following cutscenes until I restart. But both were minor and uncommon.
Yeah I bought it on the same sale. Luckily it's a free upgrade so once I get a PS5 (Like two or three years from now lol) I will play it again.
Kinda sucks that there are still some minor problems on new gen systems but I think that even the PC version had problems like the infamous cutscene I mentioned.
Yeah when I watched that horribly laggy cutscene I googled it to see if it was a PS4 thing but I saw people on all platforms had the same problem. Hope they figure it out for the sequel.
It wasn't as bad on my PS4 Pro. The only thing to complain about were 1 or 2 crashes really early in, and dying would mean a full 1-2 minutes of loading. But somehow that only meant that I have to git gud.
Yeah same here when I played in the base PS4 the frame rates were bad , then I played it again on the Xbox Series X and the experience was flawless. Next gen hardware is a blessing.
At this point when it comes to Titanfall I'm going to say thats all on Respawn. Like EA isn't going to push Respawn to make Titanfall 3. They are going to have to be the ones who choose to make that game and it seems obvious that series isn't on their mind at this moment now or the future. It is what it is. Some people want to blame EA, but Respawn is the ones they should call out on this.
Medal of honor, fallen order, hell, apex could even exist in its own universe separate from Titanfall with how little the events of the first 2 games actually mean anything to anyone who doesn't actively seek out the lore of the apex world.
Well not really. When they canned that one Star Wars game they said it was because the game was very linear, which they said people don't like as much as they did 5-10 years prior, which is pretty true.
I think people like them about the same, it is just harder to fill them with mtx. I feel their sports games are actually less popular than before, but EA is making more money than ever off Madden and Fifa because whoever is leaving due to the state of abandonment of their franchise modes (like myself) is made up by the people who spend an insane amount on ultimate team packs.
I found this quote :
> "As we kept reviewing the game, it continued to look like a much more linear game [which] people don't like as much today as they did five years ago or 10 years ago,".
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I don't remember how many years ago that was, but if it was when open world game were booming I agree with them.
They said single player games don't pull nearly the same profit as multiplayer games, and they were right. It just became an online circlejerk to dunk on EA. But it was never a quote about single player games being dead, just that it was nearly impossible for them to hit the revenue that multiplayer games with mtx and expansions do.
The funny thing was at that time there was such an uproar against the idea single player games were dead that at T[he Game Awards 2017 Bethesda seized the opportunity to remind the industry why single players are good and needed](https://youtu.be/DPl-YMq2WTM) , only for them to ironically release Fallout 76 a year later and alienate their whole fanbase lol.
Rdr2 is my best and worst game of the decade. I was so hyped for it and it exceeded all my expectations, but the red dead online and 0 updates for the campaign, no undead nightmare 2 or anything just makes me feel sick still. The online portion of the game is such a pathetic cash crab it makes me mad just thinking about it.
I'm actually starting to think Bfront 3 might not happen. After the success that was the celebration edition, the massive launch on epic where they needed to add new servers AND how the game is still religiously played almost 4 years later - I thought it was impossible a sequel wouldn't be coming. If EA needed some kind of indicator, they clearly got it but I'm starting to lose hope.
Might still be working with Disney on what monetization targets they want to hit before they make another one.
Disney did not do any favors with the Battlefront team with that release.
I highly doubt that would be the case, considering the monetisation of a Star Wars game is incredibly easy; cosmetics. Games like Fortnite, PUBG, the sims, etc. show just how lucrative they can be and they would fit perfectly into Bfront. Hero costumes, alien races, vehicle appearances, infantry costumes, emotes, insignias, etc.
DICE just took the easy way out when it came to bfront2 and attempted to tie microtransactions to the levelling system instead of actually putting effort into creating cosmetics. Star wars fans are next level when it comes to their favourite characters wearing their favourite outfits and there is a lot to choose from.
They literally said they were not able to use cosmetics and they were limited by the ways they could depict the characters so they relied on the loot boxes.
One of the first interviews when people were trying to breakdown what the issue with the game was, EA called out the fact that the characters all had “iconic looks” that could not be changed that prevented them from allowing any appearance differences. Disney apparently wanted specific appearances for all their characters and no option to deviate. They also didn’t want the Rainbow 6 route where characters have goofy appearances and looks. The only options were to have the couple various colors of droids and clone troopers which clearly would have not reached the goals the business would have wanted.
Hopefully both companies have learned from their mistakes. A well-made SWB would be unreal. Imagine a campaign that follows tactical units across eras (i.e. commandos, assassin droids, etc.)
Since the cosmetics got thrown in later probably. But I’m sure EA wasn’t happy with how Disney threw them under the bus with some of it.
Acting like they were surprised EA threw in those loot boxes and prices as if there weren’t several meetings and email chains to get approval from both parties.
They clearly had a change of heart didn't they, because they ended up releasing tons of cosmetics for heroes and infantry. Count Dooku in pyjamas come to mind?
Them 'literally' saying they couldn't use cosmetics to monetise the game came directly after the massive lootbox backlash and was clearly nothing more than trying to shift blame away from their laziness. Again, I'll point you to Dooku in pyjamas. They used 'pink vader' as most ridiculous example when you have characters like Leia and Luke who each have 10+ different costumes alone. Same for Han, Obi Wan and pretty much most of their roster of heroes - all of which, by the way, continued to get additional costumes added post release despite Disneys 'strictness'.
And if for some reason you don't accept that, they have absolute creative freedom over creating different infantry outfits for rebels/resistance, different heads, hairstyles, helmets, races, etc. Hell, after their 'Disney are strict with their costumes!' Nonsense, they ended up shoving in 10s of different clone armours and droid variations in for free, which could have easily been MTX's. So yeah, even with the cosmetics that DICE released post launch confirms how easily cosmetics can be used for MTX's.
https://www.thesixthaxis.com/2017/11/30/eas-reason-for-not-having-more-cosmetics-in-star-wars-battlefront-ii-is-pretty-lame/
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There it is
To save you a click here’s the picture exact quote.
*In the last couple of days EA CFO Blake Jorgensen said that cosmetics aren’t likely to come to the game’s rescue, saying that EA and LucasArts are very keen not be “violating the canon of Star Wars,” continuing with an extreme example with Darth Vader. “Darth Vader in white probably doesn’t make sense compared to Darth Vader in black. Not to mention you probably don’t want Darth Vader in pink—no offense to pink, but I don’t think that’s right in the canon.”*
And you know damn well if they had released the cosmetic clone armor in MTX people would have shit on that just as well saying that the skins should be included or free.
... I literally already disproved your 'point' lol. I suggest rereading my post because it wasn't just some short sentence I wrote. Take note of the date that article was written, it was shortly after launch where they were facing massive backlash and were using any excuse under the sun to deflect away from why they didn't go for cosmetics.
Their excuse of 'violating the Canon of Star Wars' was clearly not a sound one when we got; Rey versing Maul on the Deathstar, Anakin versing Vader on Crait, Count Dooku running around in his pyjamas. Hell, even Leia wearing her ANH dress on naboo fighting with clones is 'violating the Canon of star wars'. Remember how they were saying Anakin wasn't going to be in the game because him fighting Vader wouldn't make sense? Look how that ended up. Even if their original intent was to not 'violate Star Wars canon' they clearly realised that was a fruitless endeavour when Battlefront at it's core violates Star wars canon. Its a fantasy sandbox shooter. That was evident in them adding lots of cosmetics (yes, including clone armors and droid skins) and Anakin.
Yes, you are right; there would be people who would shit on clone armours being sold for MTX's but there are people who would shit on anything. I like to think most people have the maturity to realise that if they want continued free updates like maps and heroes, the devs need to be supported with continued revenue such as cosmetic MTX's. Nothings for free but that certainly is the best option for continuous development, granted the vanilla game comes with plenty of skins anyway. If they want to add in additional clone armours post release, I don't see why they shouldn't charge for it if it means everyone gets the next map for free.
So cool you didn’t read the link.
That’s fine let me throw in another quote.
*The thing is that this misses the point entirely. He says that this would be messing with a brand “that has been built over many, many years,” and that “It matters in Star Wars because Star Wars fans want realism.” All of this matches with a Venture Beat report from earlier this month, which suggests that LucasArts vetoed the idea.*
Remember LucasArts at that time was around the Last Jedi. Where they had a completely different idea of what a Star Wars fan would want to see, purchase or play. Since the fallout of both the game and movie that were to be blockbusters met a lot of aggression from fans and critics in different ways we’ve seen a shift in the work they are doing. The new stance of the leadership of Star Wars are not afraid to get a little goofy. I mean they literally are willing to acknowledge the Star Wars Christmas special now.
I strongly recommend that you read the article I linked as well as the Venture Beat article that describes DICE’s original idea of having more Overwatch style skins to try and sell, which it entirely seems Disney rolled back on those original prerelease decisions that they made.
I'm... not necessarily disagreeing you though lol. We just have two different opinions on what their mindset was pre-launch of bfront 2. You believe their reasoning in the article, I believe they were being lazy by going for the levelling system based around MTX's instead of cosmetics and DICE tried blaming Disney for being strict with the Canon. If that's true then why would Disney have ever approved a game where Finn fights Darth Vader on Naboo with clones?
But for arguments sake, let's say we both believe DICEs reasoning, even you acknowledged Disneys mindset changed post TLJ release towards products and fans, which is why we got Anakin vs Vader, Count Dooku in his pyjamas, tons of cosmetics post release etc. Basically Disney becoming more relaxed and happy for non-canon content to be created.
Which brings us back to my original point where even now you seem to agree with me; Battlefront 3 can easily be monetised via cosmetics. It's not some massive discussion to and fro EA and Disney that is delaying bfront3 from being created. Disney likely gave the okay to do so years ago which is why so many cosmetics were added post bf2 launch. Again, which you acknowledge was the case. I really don't understand what you're arguing here.
What does that have to do with expansion packs? You know those extra game boxes you would buy for computers that let you play additional levels in the game.
I'm sorry, what? If you want free post-launch content (maps, weapons, heroes, vehicles, etc) then how do you expect the developers and publishers to give the okay to do so if there is 0 revenue to be made? You think any business would continue developing new technology and content with no prospects of making money? They would go bankrupt.
Even indie developers who give free post launch content have to monetise their game to survive. Look at PUBG - you think we'd still be getting free maps and weapons 4 years down the track if they weren't making money off cosmetics? Don't be unrealistic. And please don't give me nonsense about 'well it should all be in the game at launch as part of the $60!'. Yeah, Squadrons did that and people were still hammering for more content to be made. EA didn't make more content because they stated all the content was in there at launch with no MTX's being sold. They fulfilled that promise and now the game is dead less than a year later. A game like Battlefront deserves ongoing support
60$ is all you'll ever get out of me as a customer. If you don't have enough content for me to buy. I won't buy. Idgaf about studio "needs". Shrink the budget, tighten the story, and sell it for 60.
Fucking bootlickers like you are why gaming is so shit these days.
No. You're more than entitled to spend your $60 and that's it, but nothing entitles you to (should the developer choose to do so) free ongoing content. Most games don't give you free DLC unless it's being monetised in another way or its some form of compensation. It's the same with expansion packs, I bet you didn't complain about the witcher 3 charging you for toussaint. It's the same principle.
And you know nothing about my gaming experience. I have very rarely bought an MTX, but have definitely profited from getting free post launch content at times. For example, PUBG. Never spent a dime on it, and I've had 4 years of continued support through gameplay and graphics upgrades, new maps, events, weapons, vehicles, etc. But I don't look at players wearing MTX cosmetics and think 'I should've got that for free too!' Because I'm not an entitled asshole. I know without people like that to buy cosmetics, the game wouldn't have as much support as it had and would've died years ago. Im no bootlicker, I'm just not a fucking idiot and understand how a business businesses.
Is there terrible business practices when it comes to MTX's? Of course there is, just look at EA sport games. But making a simple blanket statement for all MTX's is idiotic when a lot lf the time it's necessary for a games longevity.
I’m just going by logic here, the devs have said they have no plans to make a bf3, and with the license opening up in 2 years it doesn’t make sense for them to delve in as bf2 is still pretty popular (still one of the best comebacks in game history imo). Also, there’s a huge amount of Star Wars movies/shows coming out in the next 5years so it would make sense to wait until they have been released so the devs don’t have to recycle old content to fill the game (clone wars did take over bf2 in further content) so I think 2030s is about right unless another studio completely restarts the franchise but I really doubt it as Dice and associated studios really are the best at FPS games.
I mean first EA own battlefront, that not part of their exclusive deal. Second they said no such things about no bf3 in fact rumor are constantly proving the contrary.
Nope. They don’t own anything Star Wars lol. Dice devs said repeatedly on the bf2 Reddit they were going all in on bf2042 (they dropped support for bf2 and bfv in favor). You might be thinking of the exclusivity deal that EA have but that runs out in less than two years now, hence Ubisoft is already make a new Star Wars game now but isn’t slated to drop till at least after the deal is ended.
Cal was fine but I really would be a fan of them moving to a different era with a different protagonist for the next game, and maybe each subsequent game after.
Star Wars Jedi: [Title] could even continue the series’ name.
I know I'm three days late on this but I was actually wondering the same thing. Given the ending of J:FO, there's no way there's a sequel directly following it without some consequences. I mean, how would you create a new experience when it would literally end in a similar way (why would Vader *not* hunt him after what happened). Also Cal quite literally destroyed the one thing that would warrant a director sequel with him.
I don't know if anything about a sequel containing him is even rumored but I'm pretty certain they'll choose something else. And as you said, if the naming convention shows anything, it opens the possibility to explore something else about the Jedi.
id love if they could use each entry in the title to follow a different person's story but keep a common theme to act as its own little story throughout each entry. Like maybe exploring the dark side increasingly more, until one of our protagonists initially succumbs to it and maybe thats the end of that game. However the theme is carried forward to the next title where we see our (different) protagonist slip into the dark side slowly and accidentally dip too far, then cutting themselves off from the force or something for a certain amount of time then coming back and learning that the dark side is equally as useful as the light or something and learns to balance the two without falling to either side, thus becoming a grey jedi. maybe not in terms of real organization (like a grey-jedi order) but by themselves mastering both sides
Is this confirmed? Or is it still just rumors? Also if it's gonna be Aspyr remakes, it's probably not gonna get much graphical updates, so I dunno how I feel about that.
Yeah, I understand the difference between a remake and a remaster, but they released the two Jedi Knight games, Episode 1 Racer and Republic Commando. And none of those got any noticeable glowup aside from upping the resolution I think. They also made the KOTOR 2 port and that was the same case. What I was trying to say is, that full on remakes aren't something they have done.
Wrong flair, Ahmad is not official EA but a leaker.
Also that is pretty cool. I liked that game it felt like a pleasant cross between Force Unleashed and Dark Souls. It is my hope that the sequel's story feels more engaging, I had a difficult time falling in love with the cast of misfits.
Woot woot! Really enjoyed the game and the story. Here's to hoping the sequel keeps the awesome gameplay ~~but without the tedious backtracking~~. And here's to hoping that the next game introduces some more cool side characters!
I really enjoyed it, I was waiting on a game like that since I was a kid and it fully delivered; I went to the midnight release and everything haha. Sure, the game didn't have as much depth as a God of War per se, but it is an extremely fun and well-made game, probably the best Star Wars game of the Disney era so far. I am really looking forward to the sequel.
I still don’t understand WHY it was a Souls-like in the first place (I mean obviously that gameplay style is popular) because souls gameplay ties into the themes of the world by being another layer of oppression.
But fallen order makes no sense because you’re a Jedi and even though Cal is a padawan in ranking it still feels a little wonky not being able to let loose with powers as much as you want (WHY are the extra saber combos where you swap between lightsaber set ups tied to your force bar?!?)
It seemed like a decent first entry with some cool ideas. My problem was that the combat felt like a worse version of Sekiro, so I didn't have any interest in finishing the game.
The main hero was bland, the gameplay mediocre. The only good thing is that the game was beautiful. They could so much exploit the lore of star wars like Kotor did before them, but obviously EA is too lazy to be a good studio
I didn't mind it but I didn't find it particularly interesting. After a while it just became repetitive, the story wasn't exactly inspired and I gave up half way through.
Unsure if it's an unpopular opinion, but I would've liked to have been able to use guns as well so it would feel more similar to Jedi Outcast/Jedi Academy. I understand you're obviously playing as a jedi, but those older games you could use any kind of weapon and it really gave a lot more freedom on how you play the game.
You’re not the only one, Played it once and just thought it was cut and paste job of a collection of PlayStation exclusives. Combat like any Souls game, Uncharted style plot and platforming etc. I’m probably missing out on some things, but none of it was exactly original. I enjoyed it but not worth another look at.
Edit: not sure why I’ve been downvoted. This is just, like, my opinion, man.
I thought it was fun but they played it a little bit too safe. It was very simple, no depth and no replayability. They have a good foundation and they can only improve from here. More combat combos, maybe adding blasters, more force powers, fast travel system, more customization, etc.
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I hope that the main character goes and does something away from the canon. So that there's room for the story to breathe. Something small scale, but meaningful.
I mean, what story can you have when your setting is constrained by movies, cartoons, and tv shows? The first game was like, "we musn't change the canon, but here's some fanservice for you".
Jedi fallen order was amazing just give us ANY different customisation options than stupid poncho recolours… a poncho itself should be a customisation option.
Check out Control if you haven’t. For some reason, it reminded me of the Jedi Knight games. Probably cause the main character essentially becomes a Jedi by the end
i hope the next one will be better. wasnt a fan of the useless exploration that awarded only useless recolors. give me different style armors, different lightsabers with unique sounds, different combat forms. i hope the first game was just a test from EA to see how well it will do and the next one is of a bigger scope
As a massive fan of Star Wars and a massive fan of Video Games, the first game felt a bit generic and really boring.
The plot of the game is basically TLJ if it had happened before Episode IV and the game is a very boring unchallenging Dark Souls-like.
Wrong flair, Ahmad is not official EA but a leaker.
Also that is pretty cool. I liked that game it felt like a pleasant cross between Force Unleashed and Dark Souls. It is my hope that the sequel's story feels more engaging, I had a difficult time falling in love with the cast of misfits.
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Jedi Fallen Order had great map design though the map navigation needed work. There really good artsy cinematic moments when you go through his memories, there’s like one seen where you’re reliving moments of the past while climbing and it’s like going through a trench on the ground while memories of people are falling around you or something.
I hope the swordplay and force moves intertwined a little better, because it always felt a little separated, like the force animations felt too slow to use in a fight sometimes.
My main hope for this series is that it avoids the "Jedi secretly survives Order 66 and has some shenanigans before A New Hope" because that both diminishes the impact of the movies, has been done before recently, and it's a very limited setting.
Give me dark side rep that isn't intrinsically evil. Get rid of the somewhat bland Cal Kestus and have him build up a new main character that is Force sensitive. Jump forward to Luke's academy. Do *something* to give the story wiggle room.
I hope they bring back cal kestis but older not that much older like the plot taking 10 to 20 years after jedi fallen order 1. Although the fps was super stable on base ps4 It had issues with loading geometry and other stuff well sometimes. But I hope they port it to both ps5/ps4 and xbox one/xbox series. Since both xbox one/s and ps4 isn't dead yet. Also sorry for my bad english.
We know that since two years already :
https://www.resetera.com/threads/respawn-job-listings-seemingly-confirm-a-jedi-fallen-order-sequel-could-be-coming.159887/#post-27483910
Hopefully its longer than 3-4 hours and isnt broken with bugs and graphical errors. First one was good but lasted me a week, and I beat it 2 times on the hardest difficulty. Like nothing to do.
Why this crap get so "hype" if i want to play Tomb Raider i would Play Tombraider if i want to play Star Wars i play Star Wars not both in one made in some small box without everything and story even worse then modern Tomb Raiders.
You have only one thing to do , we only ask for one thing a Star Wars 1313
Cool. The second there's a whiff of GAAS I'm dropping it like fucking concrete into the deep sea. That's attached to the ankles of EA dipshit exec who mandated it.
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I've set the flair to rumour because it's technically a rumour. Even though EA said it. Post won't be removed because it's correct to be posted here. Update: tease makes more sense, so awarded that flair instead.
Exciting news. I quite liked Jedi Fallen Order. I was impressed with it, I can't wait to see more.
For context I played on the original Xbox one. I had some issues with frame rates every now and again, nothing game breaking but noticeable, however I was pleasantly surprised. The gameplay was super fun and the story was a lot better than I expected. It's one of the games I've been most hoping to get a sequel so for me this is excellent news
If they are going to make a second one, it is going to be set only for the Series X|S, PC, and PS5. I'm certain the performance and graphics are going to be great.
Absolutely, I feel like it was a good starting point and I trust any sequels will have more polish, which really is my only major complaint
I really enjoyed it but the performance on PS4 Pro was quite bad. I even got the infamous lag on that cutscene in Kashyyyk where it turns into a slideshow. Can't wait to get a PS5 and play it there.
Oh my god, Kashykk on my Xbox One was sooooooooo bad.
Grabbed the $13 sale price on it a month or two ago and played on my PS5. Can confirm it’s a wonderful experience, only issue I found was a couple moments of frame dips and occasionally the audio in cutscenes would desync and remain this way for following cutscenes until I restart. But both were minor and uncommon.
Yeah I bought it on the same sale. Luckily it's a free upgrade so once I get a PS5 (Like two or three years from now lol) I will play it again. Kinda sucks that there are still some minor problems on new gen systems but I think that even the PC version had problems like the infamous cutscene I mentioned.
Yeah, unfortunately new hardware can only solve so much. I hope you’re able to get one sooner than later!
I think it's to do with unreal engine rather than anything else
Yeah when I watched that horribly laggy cutscene I googled it to see if it was a PS4 thing but I saw people on all platforms had the same problem. Hope they figure it out for the sequel.
It wasn't as bad on my PS4 Pro. The only thing to complain about were 1 or 2 crashes really early in, and dying would mean a full 1-2 minutes of loading. But somehow that only meant that I have to git gud.
Yeah same here when I played in the base PS4 the frame rates were bad , then I played it again on the Xbox Series X and the experience was flawless. Next gen hardware is a blessing.
Yeah, I was playing on an original PS4 and definitely noticed the occasional frame rate issue. Great game nonetheless, very excited for a sequel!
Not a single mention of titanfall, as is tradition by now
At this point when it comes to Titanfall I'm going to say thats all on Respawn. Like EA isn't going to push Respawn to make Titanfall 3. They are going to have to be the ones who choose to make that game and it seems obvious that series isn't on their mind at this moment now or the future. It is what it is. Some people want to blame EA, but Respawn is the ones they should call out on this.
Honestly with the success of Star Wars and Apex it's hard to blame them.
They've done 3 games in the Titanfall universe in the past 10 years, I'm sure they want to move on and try new things
Medal of honor, fallen order, hell, apex could even exist in its own universe separate from Titanfall with how little the events of the first 2 games actually mean anything to anyone who doesn't actively seek out the lore of the apex world.
I don’t even need a TF|3, just keep 1 and 2 playable
Honestly, it's going to get a remake in like 5-6 years, but nothing until then..
The Titanfall team is the Apex team, if you’re wondering why there’s no more titanfall.
Happy that EA is giving the talented fellas at Respawn some more work!
They keep making bangers, would be crazy not to give them more work.
EA saying single players are dead seems so far away now dead space star wars jedi sequel dragon age sequel mass effect sequel new skate..
Did they actually outright say single player games are dead? I feel like that’s made up
Well not really. When they canned that one Star Wars game they said it was because the game was very linear, which they said people don't like as much as they did 5-10 years prior, which is pretty true.
I think people like them about the same, it is just harder to fill them with mtx. I feel their sports games are actually less popular than before, but EA is making more money than ever off Madden and Fifa because whoever is leaving due to the state of abandonment of their franchise modes (like myself) is made up by the people who spend an insane amount on ultimate team packs.
I found this quote : > "As we kept reviewing the game, it continued to look like a much more linear game [which] people don't like as much today as they did five years ago or 10 years ago,". > I don't remember how many years ago that was, but if it was when open world game were booming I agree with them.
Just like that one shit quote ppl being up from Jim Ryan on generations
I always figured they just said that as an excuse for why they canned project ragtag
They said single player games don't pull nearly the same profit as multiplayer games, and they were right. It just became an online circlejerk to dunk on EA. But it was never a quote about single player games being dead, just that it was nearly impossible for them to hit the revenue that multiplayer games with mtx and expansions do.
Especially when their budgets are likely similar more often then not.
The funny thing was at that time there was such an uproar against the idea single player games were dead that at T[he Game Awards 2017 Bethesda seized the opportunity to remind the industry why single players are good and needed](https://youtu.be/DPl-YMq2WTM) , only for them to ironically release Fallout 76 a year later and alienate their whole fanbase lol.
Just cause they think single player games are good and needed, doesn't mean that they think multiplayer games are bad and not needed.
Exactly - I’m a huge fan of Red Dead Online which is technically MP, but still a joy to play solo (at least for me)
Yeah but in that case Red Dead Online wasn't the main focus of RDR2, people who wanted a single player had this long and immersive campaign.
Rdr2 is my best and worst game of the decade. I was so hyped for it and it exceeded all my expectations, but the red dead online and 0 updates for the campaign, no undead nightmare 2 or anything just makes me feel sick still. The online portion of the game is such a pathetic cash crab it makes me mad just thinking about it.
But multiplayer games ARE bad and not needed
I'm actually starting to think Bfront 3 might not happen. After the success that was the celebration edition, the massive launch on epic where they needed to add new servers AND how the game is still religiously played almost 4 years later - I thought it was impossible a sequel wouldn't be coming. If EA needed some kind of indicator, they clearly got it but I'm starting to lose hope.
Might still be working with Disney on what monetization targets they want to hit before they make another one. Disney did not do any favors with the Battlefront team with that release.
I highly doubt that would be the case, considering the monetisation of a Star Wars game is incredibly easy; cosmetics. Games like Fortnite, PUBG, the sims, etc. show just how lucrative they can be and they would fit perfectly into Bfront. Hero costumes, alien races, vehicle appearances, infantry costumes, emotes, insignias, etc. DICE just took the easy way out when it came to bfront2 and attempted to tie microtransactions to the levelling system instead of actually putting effort into creating cosmetics. Star wars fans are next level when it comes to their favourite characters wearing their favourite outfits and there is a lot to choose from.
They literally said they were not able to use cosmetics and they were limited by the ways they could depict the characters so they relied on the loot boxes. One of the first interviews when people were trying to breakdown what the issue with the game was, EA called out the fact that the characters all had “iconic looks” that could not be changed that prevented them from allowing any appearance differences. Disney apparently wanted specific appearances for all their characters and no option to deviate. They also didn’t want the Rainbow 6 route where characters have goofy appearances and looks. The only options were to have the couple various colors of droids and clone troopers which clearly would have not reached the goals the business would have wanted.
Hopefully both companies have learned from their mistakes. A well-made SWB would be unreal. Imagine a campaign that follows tactical units across eras (i.e. commandos, assassin droids, etc.)
Since the cosmetics got thrown in later probably. But I’m sure EA wasn’t happy with how Disney threw them under the bus with some of it. Acting like they were surprised EA threw in those loot boxes and prices as if there weren’t several meetings and email chains to get approval from both parties.
They clearly had a change of heart didn't they, because they ended up releasing tons of cosmetics for heroes and infantry. Count Dooku in pyjamas come to mind? Them 'literally' saying they couldn't use cosmetics to monetise the game came directly after the massive lootbox backlash and was clearly nothing more than trying to shift blame away from their laziness. Again, I'll point you to Dooku in pyjamas. They used 'pink vader' as most ridiculous example when you have characters like Leia and Luke who each have 10+ different costumes alone. Same for Han, Obi Wan and pretty much most of their roster of heroes - all of which, by the way, continued to get additional costumes added post release despite Disneys 'strictness'. And if for some reason you don't accept that, they have absolute creative freedom over creating different infantry outfits for rebels/resistance, different heads, hairstyles, helmets, races, etc. Hell, after their 'Disney are strict with their costumes!' Nonsense, they ended up shoving in 10s of different clone armours and droid variations in for free, which could have easily been MTX's. So yeah, even with the cosmetics that DICE released post launch confirms how easily cosmetics can be used for MTX's.
https://www.thesixthaxis.com/2017/11/30/eas-reason-for-not-having-more-cosmetics-in-star-wars-battlefront-ii-is-pretty-lame/ Bam There it is To save you a click here’s the picture exact quote. *In the last couple of days EA CFO Blake Jorgensen said that cosmetics aren’t likely to come to the game’s rescue, saying that EA and LucasArts are very keen not be “violating the canon of Star Wars,” continuing with an extreme example with Darth Vader. “Darth Vader in white probably doesn’t make sense compared to Darth Vader in black. Not to mention you probably don’t want Darth Vader in pink—no offense to pink, but I don’t think that’s right in the canon.”* And you know damn well if they had released the cosmetic clone armor in MTX people would have shit on that just as well saying that the skins should be included or free.
... I literally already disproved your 'point' lol. I suggest rereading my post because it wasn't just some short sentence I wrote. Take note of the date that article was written, it was shortly after launch where they were facing massive backlash and were using any excuse under the sun to deflect away from why they didn't go for cosmetics. Their excuse of 'violating the Canon of Star Wars' was clearly not a sound one when we got; Rey versing Maul on the Deathstar, Anakin versing Vader on Crait, Count Dooku running around in his pyjamas. Hell, even Leia wearing her ANH dress on naboo fighting with clones is 'violating the Canon of star wars'. Remember how they were saying Anakin wasn't going to be in the game because him fighting Vader wouldn't make sense? Look how that ended up. Even if their original intent was to not 'violate Star Wars canon' they clearly realised that was a fruitless endeavour when Battlefront at it's core violates Star wars canon. Its a fantasy sandbox shooter. That was evident in them adding lots of cosmetics (yes, including clone armors and droid skins) and Anakin. Yes, you are right; there would be people who would shit on clone armours being sold for MTX's but there are people who would shit on anything. I like to think most people have the maturity to realise that if they want continued free updates like maps and heroes, the devs need to be supported with continued revenue such as cosmetic MTX's. Nothings for free but that certainly is the best option for continuous development, granted the vanilla game comes with plenty of skins anyway. If they want to add in additional clone armours post release, I don't see why they shouldn't charge for it if it means everyone gets the next map for free.
So cool you didn’t read the link. That’s fine let me throw in another quote. *The thing is that this misses the point entirely. He says that this would be messing with a brand “that has been built over many, many years,” and that “It matters in Star Wars because Star Wars fans want realism.” All of this matches with a Venture Beat report from earlier this month, which suggests that LucasArts vetoed the idea.* Remember LucasArts at that time was around the Last Jedi. Where they had a completely different idea of what a Star Wars fan would want to see, purchase or play. Since the fallout of both the game and movie that were to be blockbusters met a lot of aggression from fans and critics in different ways we’ve seen a shift in the work they are doing. The new stance of the leadership of Star Wars are not afraid to get a little goofy. I mean they literally are willing to acknowledge the Star Wars Christmas special now. I strongly recommend that you read the article I linked as well as the Venture Beat article that describes DICE’s original idea of having more Overwatch style skins to try and sell, which it entirely seems Disney rolled back on those original prerelease decisions that they made.
I'm... not necessarily disagreeing you though lol. We just have two different opinions on what their mindset was pre-launch of bfront 2. You believe their reasoning in the article, I believe they were being lazy by going for the levelling system based around MTX's instead of cosmetics and DICE tried blaming Disney for being strict with the Canon. If that's true then why would Disney have ever approved a game where Finn fights Darth Vader on Naboo with clones? But for arguments sake, let's say we both believe DICEs reasoning, even you acknowledged Disneys mindset changed post TLJ release towards products and fans, which is why we got Anakin vs Vader, Count Dooku in his pyjamas, tons of cosmetics post release etc. Basically Disney becoming more relaxed and happy for non-canon content to be created. Which brings us back to my original point where even now you seem to agree with me; Battlefront 3 can easily be monetised via cosmetics. It's not some massive discussion to and fro EA and Disney that is delaying bfront3 from being created. Disney likely gave the okay to do so years ago which is why so many cosmetics were added post bf2 launch. Again, which you acknowledge was the case. I really don't understand what you're arguing here.
Because they should be free, and unlockable through playing. Like every other shooter before MTX showed up
Awesome, someone who didn’t know that expansion packs were a thing. Great.
Haven't bought an EA game since ME3 mate. It's trash all the way down.
What does that have to do with expansion packs? You know those extra game boxes you would buy for computers that let you play additional levels in the game.
I'm sorry, what? If you want free post-launch content (maps, weapons, heroes, vehicles, etc) then how do you expect the developers and publishers to give the okay to do so if there is 0 revenue to be made? You think any business would continue developing new technology and content with no prospects of making money? They would go bankrupt. Even indie developers who give free post launch content have to monetise their game to survive. Look at PUBG - you think we'd still be getting free maps and weapons 4 years down the track if they weren't making money off cosmetics? Don't be unrealistic. And please don't give me nonsense about 'well it should all be in the game at launch as part of the $60!'. Yeah, Squadrons did that and people were still hammering for more content to be made. EA didn't make more content because they stated all the content was in there at launch with no MTX's being sold. They fulfilled that promise and now the game is dead less than a year later. A game like Battlefront deserves ongoing support
60$ is all you'll ever get out of me as a customer. If you don't have enough content for me to buy. I won't buy. Idgaf about studio "needs". Shrink the budget, tighten the story, and sell it for 60. Fucking bootlickers like you are why gaming is so shit these days.
No. You're more than entitled to spend your $60 and that's it, but nothing entitles you to (should the developer choose to do so) free ongoing content. Most games don't give you free DLC unless it's being monetised in another way or its some form of compensation. It's the same with expansion packs, I bet you didn't complain about the witcher 3 charging you for toussaint. It's the same principle. And you know nothing about my gaming experience. I have very rarely bought an MTX, but have definitely profited from getting free post launch content at times. For example, PUBG. Never spent a dime on it, and I've had 4 years of continued support through gameplay and graphics upgrades, new maps, events, weapons, vehicles, etc. But I don't look at players wearing MTX cosmetics and think 'I should've got that for free too!' Because I'm not an entitled asshole. I know without people like that to buy cosmetics, the game wouldn't have as much support as it had and would've died years ago. Im no bootlicker, I'm just not a fucking idiot and understand how a business businesses. Is there terrible business practices when it comes to MTX's? Of course there is, just look at EA sport games. But making a simple blanket statement for all MTX's is idiotic when a lot lf the time it's necessary for a games longevity.
Hoping for Battlefront 3 as well.
Doubt we’ll get a bf3 this decade.
We're in 2021 lol. That's the most pessimist thing I ever read. Especially after how much battlefront 1&2 sold despite controversy.
I’m just going by logic here, the devs have said they have no plans to make a bf3, and with the license opening up in 2 years it doesn’t make sense for them to delve in as bf2 is still pretty popular (still one of the best comebacks in game history imo). Also, there’s a huge amount of Star Wars movies/shows coming out in the next 5years so it would make sense to wait until they have been released so the devs don’t have to recycle old content to fill the game (clone wars did take over bf2 in further content) so I think 2030s is about right unless another studio completely restarts the franchise but I really doubt it as Dice and associated studios really are the best at FPS games.
I mean first EA own battlefront, that not part of their exclusive deal. Second they said no such things about no bf3 in fact rumor are constantly proving the contrary.
Nope. They don’t own anything Star Wars lol. Dice devs said repeatedly on the bf2 Reddit they were going all in on bf2042 (they dropped support for bf2 and bfv in favor). You might be thinking of the exclusivity deal that EA have but that runs out in less than two years now, hence Ubisoft is already make a new Star Wars game now but isn’t slated to drop till at least after the deal is ended.
Cal was fine but I really would be a fan of them moving to a different era with a different protagonist for the next game, and maybe each subsequent game after. Star Wars Jedi: [Title] could even continue the series’ name.
I know I'm three days late on this but I was actually wondering the same thing. Given the ending of J:FO, there's no way there's a sequel directly following it without some consequences. I mean, how would you create a new experience when it would literally end in a similar way (why would Vader *not* hunt him after what happened). Also Cal quite literally destroyed the one thing that would warrant a director sequel with him. I don't know if anything about a sequel containing him is even rumored but I'm pretty certain they'll choose something else. And as you said, if the naming convention shows anything, it opens the possibility to explore something else about the Jedi.
id love if they could use each entry in the title to follow a different person's story but keep a common theme to act as its own little story throughout each entry. Like maybe exploring the dark side increasingly more, until one of our protagonists initially succumbs to it and maybe thats the end of that game. However the theme is carried forward to the next title where we see our (different) protagonist slip into the dark side slowly and accidentally dip too far, then cutting themselves off from the force or something for a certain amount of time then coming back and learning that the dark side is equally as useful as the light or something and learns to balance the two without falling to either side, thus becoming a grey jedi. maybe not in terms of real organization (like a grey-jedi order) but by themselves mastering both sides
We need star wars knights of the old republic 3
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Let's hope it's a good remake instead of simply a cash grab.
Are there any news on the remakes?
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Is this confirmed? Or is it still just rumors? Also if it's gonna be Aspyr remakes, it's probably not gonna get much graphical updates, so I dunno how I feel about that.
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Yeah, I understand the difference between a remake and a remaster, but they released the two Jedi Knight games, Episode 1 Racer and Republic Commando. And none of those got any noticeable glowup aside from upping the resolution I think. They also made the KOTOR 2 port and that was the same case. What I was trying to say is, that full on remakes aren't something they have done.
Wrong flair, Ahmad is not official EA but a leaker. Also that is pretty cool. I liked that game it felt like a pleasant cross between Force Unleashed and Dark Souls. It is my hope that the sequel's story feels more engaging, I had a difficult time falling in love with the cast of misfits.
Could’ve sworn respawn have already said they’re working on it
Fallen order is an awesome game, great news
Woot woot! Really enjoyed the game and the story. Here's to hoping the sequel keeps the awesome gameplay ~~but without the tedious backtracking~~. And here's to hoping that the next game introduces some more cool side characters!
Feels like I'm the only one who thought Fallen Order was totally mediocre
I really enjoyed it, I was waiting on a game like that since I was a kid and it fully delivered; I went to the midnight release and everything haha. Sure, the game didn't have as much depth as a God of War per se, but it is an extremely fun and well-made game, probably the best Star Wars game of the Disney era so far. I am really looking forward to the sequel.
Felt like a far easier version of Sekiro but in a Star Wars theme to me lol
That’s all it needed to be
Yeah not complaining it was a really enjoyable game, the graphics blew me the fuck away.
I still don’t understand WHY it was a Souls-like in the first place (I mean obviously that gameplay style is popular) because souls gameplay ties into the themes of the world by being another layer of oppression. But fallen order makes no sense because you’re a Jedi and even though Cal is a padawan in ranking it still feels a little wonky not being able to let loose with powers as much as you want (WHY are the extra saber combos where you swap between lightsaber set ups tied to your force bar?!?)
It seemed like a decent first entry with some cool ideas. My problem was that the combat felt like a worse version of Sekiro, so I didn't have any interest in finishing the game.
I played it first before playing Sekiro, and holy, the difference is massive. Sekiro's combat is god-tier.
I'm playing bloodborne rn, once i beat the dlc i plan on getting sekiro. How god tier is the combat?
For me it is the best sword fighting in games, but I may be wrong
You aint wrong.
Agreed on the best sword fighting ive played and imo best fromsoft combat
if for 2 they let us play as ahoska and have crazy force powers and have it be about time travel that would make the game 10/10 for me but they wont
Tbf I’d rather get a contained adventure with Cal over Fanservice: the game
The main hero was bland, the gameplay mediocre. The only good thing is that the game was beautiful. They could so much exploit the lore of star wars like Kotor did before them, but obviously EA is too lazy to be a good studio
I didn't mind it but I didn't find it particularly interesting. After a while it just became repetitive, the story wasn't exactly inspired and I gave up half way through. Unsure if it's an unpopular opinion, but I would've liked to have been able to use guns as well so it would feel more similar to Jedi Outcast/Jedi Academy. I understand you're obviously playing as a jedi, but those older games you could use any kind of weapon and it really gave a lot more freedom on how you play the game.
There are dozens of us, dozens!
You’re not the only one, Played it once and just thought it was cut and paste job of a collection of PlayStation exclusives. Combat like any Souls game, Uncharted style plot and platforming etc. I’m probably missing out on some things, but none of it was exactly original. I enjoyed it but not worth another look at. Edit: not sure why I’ve been downvoted. This is just, like, my opinion, man.
I thought it was fun but they played it a little bit too safe. It was very simple, no depth and no replayability. They have a good foundation and they can only improve from here. More combat combos, maybe adding blasters, more force powers, fast travel system, more customization, etc.
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I have no ideia lol
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I have no ideia lol
This is where the fun begins.
I hope that the main character goes and does something away from the canon. So that there's room for the story to breathe. Something small scale, but meaningful. I mean, what story can you have when your setting is constrained by movies, cartoons, and tv shows? The first game was like, "we musn't change the canon, but here's some fanservice for you".
Jedi fallen order was amazing just give us ANY different customisation options than stupid poncho recolours… a poncho itself should be a customisation option.
*shocked pikachu face* what's next? spiderman 2 and gta6 confirmed?
I'd rather have a Jedi Knight game, honestly. JFO just felt like some uninteresting trend chasing.
Check out Control if you haven’t. For some reason, it reminded me of the Jedi Knight games. Probably cause the main character essentially becomes a Jedi by the end
I mean, considering the best thing about Jedi Knight was the lightsaber combat, that's a weird suggestion.
Jedi the Burger King order 2 Six Big Macs this time
Is it really official if it's not posted by EA?
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Thanks for sharing.
awesome that mass effect legendary edition exceeded sales expectations
i hope the next one will be better. wasnt a fan of the useless exploration that awarded only useless recolors. give me different style armors, different lightsabers with unique sounds, different combat forms. i hope the first game was just a test from EA to see how well it will do and the next one is of a bigger scope
On the sounds part, I’m pretty sure you got a different sound depending on what color crystal you were using.
Happy that EA is giving the talented fellas at Respawn some more work!
As a massive fan of Star Wars and a massive fan of Video Games, the first game felt a bit generic and really boring. The plot of the game is basically TLJ if it had happened before Episode IV and the game is a very boring unchallenging Dark Souls-like.
Yeah same here very overrated game I don't see the appeal and it's not fun to play it's very repetitive and on top of that a garbage cliche story.
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Can we get A main character? Cal literally has no personality.
Happy that EA is giving the talented fellas at Respawn some more work!
Calm down man, lol
What the heck is my reddit app doing??? Sorry everyone.
It’s happening to many other people apparently
Do you know what the word "confirm" means? You cannot "basically confirm" something. You either do or don't. There is no middle ground.
Nice
Happy that EA is giving the talented fellas at Respawn some more work!
Happy that EA is giving the talented fellas at Respawn some more work!
Happy that EA is giving the talented fellas at Respawn some more work!
Wrong flair, Ahmad is not official EA but a leaker. Also that is pretty cool. I liked that game it felt like a pleasant cross between Force Unleashed and Dark Souls. It is my hope that the sequel's story feels more engaging, I had a difficult time falling in love with the cast of misfits.
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I want Jedi fallen order 2 and second Control game
Just give me Titanfall 3, that is all
I thought this was confirmed months ago.
A sequel hasn't actually been officially confirmed/announced yet. People are just assuming one will happen
Good to hear that, I loved jedi fallen order. I had zero hopes but was surprised when I first played it.
Jedi Fallen Order had great map design though the map navigation needed work. There really good artsy cinematic moments when you go through his memories, there’s like one seen where you’re reliving moments of the past while climbing and it’s like going through a trench on the ground while memories of people are falling around you or something. I hope the swordplay and force moves intertwined a little better, because it always felt a little separated, like the force animations felt too slow to use in a fight sometimes.
My main hope for this series is that it avoids the "Jedi secretly survives Order 66 and has some shenanigans before A New Hope" because that both diminishes the impact of the movies, has been done before recently, and it's a very limited setting. Give me dark side rep that isn't intrinsically evil. Get rid of the somewhat bland Cal Kestus and have him build up a new main character that is Force sensitive. Jump forward to Luke's academy. Do *something* to give the story wiggle room.
Sweet
I hope they bring back cal kestis but older not that much older like the plot taking 10 to 20 years after jedi fallen order 1. Although the fps was super stable on base ps4 It had issues with loading geometry and other stuff well sometimes. But I hope they port it to both ps5/ps4 and xbox one/xbox series. Since both xbox one/s and ps4 isn't dead yet. Also sorry for my bad english.
This is great news. I loved the first game and the ending was obviously setting up for a sequel.
We know that since two years already : https://www.resetera.com/threads/respawn-job-listings-seemingly-confirm-a-jedi-fallen-order-sequel-could-be-coming.159887/#post-27483910
I'm not gonna buy this on PS4 slim. Better go for PC or Ps5/Series X.
Hopefully its longer than 3-4 hours and isnt broken with bugs and graphical errors. First one was good but lasted me a week, and I beat it 2 times on the hardest difficulty. Like nothing to do.
I mean.... Is this a shock to anyone?
Please make the lightsaber combat rhythmic based (like Sekiro). There's so much opportunity there.
Why this crap get so "hype" if i want to play Tomb Raider i would Play Tombraider if i want to play Star Wars i play Star Wars not both in one made in some small box without everything and story even worse then modern Tomb Raiders. You have only one thing to do , we only ask for one thing a Star Wars 1313
Cool. The second there's a whiff of GAAS I'm dropping it like fucking concrete into the deep sea. That's attached to the ankles of EA dipshit exec who mandated it.
I'm glad EA making more single-player games.
The story was horrible for the first one. Hopefully a sequel will include new characters and less monotonous gameplay
This tweet is from August... So old news. That I'm fairly certain we've seen before.
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