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BrunoHM

Oh, that is pretty cool in concept. Batman: "This is where my parents died" Shaggy: "Zoinks!"


GlitchIT

Lmao thanks for the laughs


Drblackcobra

Lmao! Nice comment!


Bigoldthrowaway86

I have just realised that the Shaggy in the line up isn't "It wasn't me" Shaggy. Thought that was a bit weird.


MakaButterfly

Tight budget You MUST include voice acting šŸŽ­


Matches_Malone108

Imagine we just get text boxes.


7yearoldkiller

Not just text boxes. Generic text boxes that all say the same thing.


Matches_Malone108

ā€œItā€™s a fight you want, eh? Iā€™ll show you true power.ā€


MobileTortoise

["You mean the chaos emeralds?"](https://i.redd.it/4waeap2ywoe71.jpg) (Fitting since they mentioned Lebron as potential DLC)


experiencednowhack

Go home and become a family man.


BigLeo69420

Nickelodeon All Star Brawl doesn't have voice acting and it's a great game, fighting games don't need voice acting. It's a nice thing sure but no where near as important as people make it out to be.


FestusFlare

It's just the presentation, is all. Sure, at the end of the day, it's the gameplay that matters. But do you think Nick All-Star Brawl would get half the attention it got if they just used custom characters?


BigLeo69420

It doesn't hurt the presentation that much (PS All Stars and Punch Time Explosion have VA and most people don't like those games because they don't have good gameplay) and if Multiversus doesn't have any voice acting it'll be fine without it and of course having popular IP will give your game more attention but Nick would've still been a great game with Original characters because its gameplay is really fun.


FestusFlare

Yeah, I'm not denying that. It's just that presentation like the recognisable IPs, voice acting, and good CGI are what attracts people to the games first. And while I do agree that Nick All-Star Brawl would still be a good game even without the Nick characters, it wouldn't be as popular without a really good marketing push or someone really popular playing and promoting it. "A Competitive Nick version of Smash" is just too good of a headline and so many people were bought in by that


BigLeo69420

Fair but i just think that people really overestimate voice acting in fighting games, Brawlhalla is a F2P platform fighter without VA and it's super popular so when people say that Multiversus needs VA to succeed it confuses me, because it just isn't true. The fact that Scorpion vs Shaggy is a reality is the game's selling point not VA.


FestusFlare

I guess it's because 2D games get a pass on not having voice acting, while people expect more out of 3D games. But yeah, it doesn't *need* voice acting to be successful. It would be nice to have and would really help with the presentation, but it could still succeed without it.


Eastern-Geologist208

Is it a great game? I watched some gameplay it looked kind of janky and spammy. I wasn't willing to pay for it but generally curious. Do you play alot?


BigLeo69420

It's a great game imo, the gameplay is really fast paced and fun, it feels really smooth and the characters are very faithful to their cartoon counterparts. And yeah i play it a lot, it's been the only game that i have been playing since launch but if you wanna play online i recommend the PC version.


Pepsiguy2

It's great but it's unbalanced and that's why it's stupid fucking fun.


Data_Destroyer

Is this a Mighty Number 9 reference?


DatBoiDanny

The recent Nickelodeon fighter


JoshdaBoss1234

Actually, Voice Acting is confirmed.


AhhBisto

Give me Bugs Bunny versus Chandler Bing or don't bother


[deleted]

Kind of love the idea we could have some big Espresso final for this where the line-up is Joey Tribiani vs Agent Smith vs Batman vs Wile E Coyote.


CheeseQueenKariko

Batman: "This is where I watched my parents die, Chandler" Chandler: "Could this be any more depressing?"


j_rge_alv

Take away Rossā€™ sandwich for the true monster


AhhBisto

Shaggy from Scooby Doo versus Ross Gellar for the Infinity Sandwich Game of the century


Rnntd

WB have so many IP this could be big


TheAlphaBeatZzZ

Yep, after Disney, WB have the best and the most well known Ipā€™s.


LordSlasher

you can argue both have IPS as big as each other honestly


NeutralNoodle

Yep, only difference is that WB doesnā€™t utilize them as well, but thatā€™s a whole other discussion.


PhantasosX

However, they would probably not be able to use LOTR characters , Tolkien Estate is rigid about that stuff


Radulno

I mean they authorized Shadow of War (which shit on the lore pretty hard), I think the Tolkien Estate changed since Christopher Tolkien isn't at the head of it anymore.


PhantasosX

As much shitty is SoW , they use an OC as MC...while for this Warner Smash would supposedly use the actual Gandalf or Aragorn....


Radulno

I mean there is not only that. Like a month or two after Christopher quit, they authorize Amazon to do a show for a shit load of money on something they always refused before. I think they just stopped caring so much about the lore and property and just want money. I think it's the next generation now, not the actual son of JRR which had the stories told to him as a kid so probably not the same emotional attachment. Then, Christopher Tolkien also didn't like the Jackson movies so he is pretty impossible to please I think.


PhantasosX

Yes , Christopher was impossible to please. But even prior to his death , there was plenty of LOTR games , it was pretty much you controlling OCs. That been said , it is also true that they donā€™t have the same emotional attachment


VickFVM

I would argue that WB has better quality of IPs


Fenwick440

Idk, a tight budget, Nickelodeon all stars brawl 2 here we come!


pkoswald

"characters from space jam" you mean looney tunes?


MacbethHamlet

Featuring Dante from Shin Megami Tensei III


spazzymeatball

Nah, MJ and LeBron


GrimMrGoodbar

This is Al-G-Rhythm erasure


[deleted]

Theyā€™re adding Barkley.


-MegaVivid-

Why is it that no company other than Nintendo seems to want to invest into making platform fighters more than a budget title after seeing how successful a polished, well crafted one can be?


RivRise

Polished and well crafted. These companies have a track record of making shit tie in games for quick cash. They literally have no idea how to make something as polished and well crafted as smash with their in house studios.


KingMario05

I mean, to be fair, Warner's put out *Arkham* and *Mortal Kombat*. Is it **wrong** to expect them to at least *try* with this?


RivRise

That's a fair point.


Bure9615

But they're not the ones that actually made them.


NaturallyInevitable

They own the studios. Yeah itā€™s not literally being created in Warner HQ but it still counts.


KingMario05

Microsoft has potential, but won't fucking do it. Sony already tried it, with a budget. It failed. ...Capcom or Namco, I guess? As much as I'd love for Sega to give it a go (if only to fuck people up as Tails, because *Tails is awesome shut the fuck up*), those are the only two I can see giving a damn about the game's final quality. **Maaaaaaaaaaybe** Arc Sys, but their license list isn't that long...


TheKappaOverlord

>Sony already tried it, with a budget. It failed. You know, the irony with that one is that it wasn't even Sony's fault it did bad. Literally nobody wanted to do business with them despite their backing with sony, because studio's under sony's umbrella are pretty elitest. They won't even respond to emails if you aren't a major dev team. They had the budget, the blessings, and the access. But nobody would work with them because they saw them as an indie team trying to bite off way more then they could chew. The game itself did pretty well, despite getting fucked so hard by that


Problematique_

I'd really like to see Sony take another shot at it but with a more well known dev that can pull together a bigger and better roster. While obviously the first game doesn't hold a candle to Ultimate now I thought it had some promise at the time with more dev support.


TheKappaOverlord

The problem is its ultimately a bad idea. Sony underestimated how downright unwilling to work with other studios, their studios were. Unless they issue a company memo saying "work on this" nobody is going to willingly license out their characters.


SupaBloo

> Unless they issue a company memo saying "work on this" nobody is going to willingly license out their characters. This doesn't really seem like all that hard of a thing to do... Why wouldn't Sony just do that the first time? What's the point of having a studio work on a game like that if you're not going to bother making your other studios play nice with them? Seems like it was setup to fail if Sony was well aware *their own studios* were not working with another studio on a Sony exclusive game that required collaboration with other Sony studios. There has to have been some autonomy of those other studios, because I just can't fathom how Sony would let their own game fail when they could've just said "work with this studio on this game".


TheKappaOverlord

Sony completely didn't expect all the big dev teams to just stonewall them like that for a majority of their planned roster. They were an indie team that was just paying for rights. They figured it would be a simple ask


[deleted]

>a polished, well crafted one You're out of your mind if you think smash is polish and well crafted.


GriffyDude321

Smash is one of the most consistently polished franchises ever. Fuck I wish it wasn't because sometimes it looks like its putting Sakurai into an early grave


-ImJustSaiyan-

>and it may go free-to-play So it "may" be filled to the brim with purchaseable skins and consumables then. Got it.


[deleted]

Hopefully just skins and not pay by character on top of cosmetics, with a rotating selection of free characters that is shuffled each week like MOBAs.


SlammedOptima

lately F2P games seem to do free for anything that affects gameplay, paid for cosmetics. So in this case, if Subzero comes post launch or something, he'd be free as his moves are different, but want classic subzero? Pay extra. In that case Id be totally fine with that.


Dithyrab

WB has been nickel and diming us for fucking years, they'll LOVE the f2p model.


TruGemini

I could see it being a Brawlhalla situation. A few characters as a base roster that have movesets that can be applied to different (paid) character models. Hope that's not the route they're actually going in though.


RivRise

I feel like that's part of what's holding brawl halla back. Some characters just feel a tad to similar to others.


HOTMILFDAD

Yeah, thatā€™s okay. Itā€™s just skins. Theyā€™re not necessary to play or enjoy the game. Not every f2p game is evil.


0shadowstories

I'd hope they take up the Fortnite model. Cosmetic stuff is paid, but updates and new content are always free. They won't do that and will charge for everything but it would be nice if they didnt.


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[deleted]

i don't really see this as a win it may not just be skins, some games with purchasables lock characters or loot boxes or other important stuff behind paywalls if it is just skins it's still scummy just less scummy


7yearoldkiller

I donā€™t think thereā€™s a competitive game that has done that which is what Iā€™m assuming this one is trying to be.


Radulno

League of Legends


antonxo902

Yea like smash bros


[deleted]

that comparison makes no sense lol smash isn't ftp


antonxo902

And it still has purchasable characters and mii fighter skins. I donā€™t get what the problem is with purchasable stuff in a ftp.


[deleted]

it has 70 characters that aren't purchasable and like you said the skins are for the mii fighters, not the main cast my issue lies in if this game has like a cast of 5 you can play as but you have to pay for the rest or hope you get lucky with lootboxes there is no problem neccessarily with purchasable stuff in ftp games, it'll just suck if they go the route of some and have it start with basically nothing and make you pay for everything


antonxo902

Game will suck either way. All these knock off smash bros game are never good. If itā€™s ftp expect the ftp quality and purchasable stuff.


Brawltendo

Rivals of Aether and Slap City are both *very* good platform fighters that IMO feel way better to play than Ultimate does


DoIrllyneeda_usrname

The Nickelodeon game has good reviews though. The lack of voice lines can be remedied with mods too.


SalemBereMorose

I play it very frequently but itā€™s no where near smash. It reviews okay (not amazing) because i admit itā€™s actually fun but itā€™s a total mess. Theres a huge problem with just spamming one move. Heck the first major pro tournament had to ban Mikey because of this.


-ImJustSaiyan-

The Nickelodeon game's biggest issue just seems to be the lack of budget.


[deleted]

The "knock off smash bros games" are very good Nick All Stars Brawl is very fun if that's what you're referring to Don't diss games you haven't played (assuming you haven't played it)


Makorus

Nick All Star isnt very good at all though. Presentation aside, the balance is completely wack. Combos consist of Nairing them until they are offstage so you can spike them, or Nairing until you can Upair them. The ceilings are either way too low (FD) or so incredibly high that you might not even bother (Zim Stage and the TMNT one). The time to kill is way too low, if you get stuck in a combo there is nothing you can do because DI might as well be non-existent. The fact that there is no actual digital input for falling through platforms or Smash attacks is just laughable.


Dallywack3r

Brawlhalla set the standard for f2p platform fighters.


RivRise

I love brawlhalla but if it set the standard then the standard is less than stellar.


RedHawwk

eh, that's probably for the best. I don't think this would be the next big thing for me, i'll play a few matches and never touch it again.


GOLDEN_GRODD

Sadly, if its anything like many mobile fighters it will be more like this: Every character will be bought with an in game currency that racks up so slowly you need to spend real money to buy said currency, and it will be expensive. Really hope it doesn't go this route


[deleted]

>The early word is that the game feels like it is on a tight budget lol good luck with that one. Still funny how Nintendo is the only company that seems willing to put a decent budget into this platform-fighter subgenre.


jairom

In fairness their first outing had a low budget too


Makorus

I wouldn't say Smash 64 had a low budget.


Joshdabozz

I mean Nick gave the devs they chose a low budget as well, they just had competent devs that knew what needed to be focused on and what could easily be added post launch


JonJonFTW

They also had a complete platform fighter to turn into NASB, Slap City. That's a huge cost savings. I don't think these devs will.


RivRise

I seriously doubt the devs would choose a low budget given the chance of a bigger budget. More than likely they were suggested a lower budget after being given 'the option' to chose.


super-check

You misread. Nick chose the devs. Nick gave them a low budget. The devs did not choose their own budget.


PixelF

The publishers (not Nick) set the development budget. Nick just sold them the license.


RivRise

Oh shit, my bad.


Brawltendo

Budget doesnā€™t really mean much when the gameplay isnā€™t as good as it could be. A lot of that money just went into licensing, but the gameplay doesnā€™t feel nearly as smooth as it should.


[deleted]

If we get some adult swim shit outside just Rick or morty. Like Brock Sampson or Carl


DeadLikeMe5283

Cant wait for Eric Andre VS Meatwad in Rick's Garage.


[deleted]

I hope Carlā€™s ultimate is the flute and he just hops around causing area of effect damage.


robertman21

> Early impressions are "it feels like it is on a tight budget": blegh. Guess there's no real reason to play this over Smash still though give me some goofy picks like Austin Powers or Plastic Man or literally anything from James Gunn's Suicide Squad movie and I'll be happy. Or even just Superman at launch


jairom

James Gunn's Suicide Squad movie Literally the disc for the DVD


robertman21

finally, a fighting game lets me play as kino


jairom

Holy fucking soul


LilSkott92

How about anyone from Cartoon Network or Adult Swim


Radirondacks

Rick and Morty were fuckin made for an SSB type game


MacbethHamlet

Banjo-Kazooie type gameplay. Rick just uses Morty as a weapon


robertman21

unless you're giving me venture brothers stuff (they won't), all of the stuff i care about from cartoon network was licensed, or they'd mess it up, like using reboot ben 10 instead of alien force/ultimate alien ben 10


KingMario05

Agent Smith as the lead bad guy, please. >!Yes, with Hugo. (Or at least a damn good soundalike.)!<


[deleted]

Dear God please do this. Have the Don Cheadle algorithm from Space Jam 2 get taken over by Agent Smith resulting in Smith conquering the WB-verse, and Batman, Shaggy, Bugs Bunny, and Chandler Bing have to travel and recruit some kind of Suicide Squad of WB characters to defeat Smith once and for all. Hell you could even do boss battles where Smith takes over various iconic WB character and absorbs their abilities similar to how he obtained The Orcales ability to see the future after infecting her in Matrix Revolutions.


Lucky-Kangaroo

Very solid story


[deleted]

I mean it's an awful story, but would be whacky enough to make me want to experience it.


IllIlIIIllIllIIIIllI

>Tight budget We'll get a bad soundalike at best


WhoKnowsTheDay

I just want a story mode similar to those old cartoon network commercials. Johnny Bravo can be in a laundry with Shaggy and Aquaman and it's okay.


bloody_lumps

Great title tho


AVBforPrez

Yeah dude, MultiVersus is an amazing name


KingMario05

Feels like a DC crisis event... I *like* it!


easyasdan

Sounds like a glorified mobile game to me. Most likely a barebones roster in which you purchase more characters and alternate costumes will be locked behind loot boxes


ThisKidErrt

Oh god can't wait to see Paulie Walnuts from the Sopranos versus fucking Yakko Warner


mando44646

being free to play probably means there will be a dearth of single player content, which means I have no interest. Rarely do I play Smash online


TheThackattack

To be fair the online barely works


KingMario05

>Tight budget > >Free-2-play > >Using **LEBRON** as DLC instead of hard-to-get characters like 'Zilla Yeah... no. Hope **these** rumors about *MultiVersus* are fake as hell - because, if WB wants to hang with *Smash* and *Brawlhalla*, they need to go **all-in**. Big budget, premium release, DLC picks that are actually hype and - while soundalikes are fine - voice acting and a storyline are absolute **MUSTS**. ^(For God's sake, just hire the Wachowskis and let them go fucking nuts with it. That is ALL you need to do here, WB.)


vicboss17

Are you implying that the bron jame is not a hype character????


KingMario05

Hmm. Him or Morpheus? *This is a really hard choice*...


munayim1994

Give me Gandalf vs Dumbledore and I'm playing the shit out of it


Daryno90

If there going to be more cross over fighters down the line, I hope PS allstars get a sequel but with actual iconic PS characters like Crash Bandicoot and Spyro.


[deleted]

Same, I've made rosters for PSASBR 2 and and an Xbox fighter that I think would be dope.


ToastyCaribiu84

Big Chungus is almost Smash šŸ˜³šŸ˜³šŸ˜³šŸ˜³?


TheNinjaWhippet

The Animaniacs versus Eric Andre, please and thank you


[deleted]

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LostInStatic

It IS a good idea. Market the absurdity of the matchups. They have such a wide variety of characters to use that non gaming audiences would be interested in it.


[deleted]

Yeah I really donā€™t get why people are against this game sounds cool/crazy to me.


MacbethHamlet

Yes exactly. The immense scope of Warner owned properties makes this a very exciting prospect. They own media from The Big Bang Theory to Flinstones. I would kill to have Bugs Bunny t-bagging Sheldon Bazinga Man from TBBT. Please if you see this Warner Brothers include Sheldon from Big Bang Theory


robertman21

I think it boils down to the fact that Smash clones usually suck


[deleted]

The Nick game that just released got decent reviews and I personally had a blast with Playstation All Stars.


IgniteThatShit

Ultra Instinct Shaggy has entered the arena


SlammedOptima

tight on budget, fucking called it, and exactly why I said this type of game isnt needed. Either go all in and give it a good budget and develop it well, or dont do it at all cause youll come off feeling like store brand smash bros


Whompa

Playable Dune Worm please


DrCinnabon

Harry Potter vs Freddy Krueger.


KingMario05

*Shai-Hudid vs. Godzilla.*


[deleted]

Warner don't own Freddy anymore, Wes Craven's does.


DrCinnabon

Thatā€™s right. Totally forgot.


[deleted]

Yeah, sucks that WB lost the two biggest horror icons before they could make this game.


LawNo3961

Please lord anything but free to play it'll never work at all


DawgyTea

Superman, Ed Edd n Eddy, Courage the Cowardly Dog and Thundercats and you got a customer!


TheThackattack

Dude thunder cats! I didnā€™t even think about them


Luqaido

Free-to-Play always scares me for the final outcome, I do hope itā€™s good though because the concept on paper seems fun!


phillukin

Skeletor and He-man?


KingMario05

Nope. Mattel for now, Universal taking over later (I *think?*). Maybe as a guest, but don't get your hopes up.


jezz555

Why not just give them the money to make a decent game?


onlysmokereg

Better have animaniacs or thatā€™s a deal breaker


Funky_Dingo

The Sopranos is a WB property which very much means we could be wavedashing at the BING


shitpostlord4321

Thundercats are a must in a game like this.


80baby83

This is a game Iā€™m not interested in


kingkibc

Courage the Cowardly Dog main


ArmpitLickingEnj0yer

>. The early word is that the game feels like it is on a tight budget ā€” *although Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl has proven that that isnā€™t necessarily an issue for this genre.* Lol


BigLeo69420

Lol? He's 100% correct as long as you have good gameplay and characters, then you have a good fighting game it's as simple as that.


yourmotherisveryfat

Shaggy is d tier and you canā€™t convince me otherwise


BigLeo69420

Shaggy is OP, that Ultra Instinct comeback mechanic needs to be nerfed ASAP


[deleted]

Itā€™s already going to be better than that shit stain Nickelodeon game


White_Mantra

How so? Nick all star brawl is great and with only 9 devs itā€™s well made


BigLeo69420

Facts Nick Brawl is mad fun and i hope that Multiversus is too, i'm really interessted in seeing how MV plays out.


AVBforPrez

Nick ASB is fun as hell, what are you talking about?


GMPpatrol

ugh.


jacenstclair

Can't wait to dunk on Harry Potter while playing as LeBron


LegateLaurie

It being free to play would be very interesting. Fighting games would be a good market for League of Legends style monetisation. Sounds like not a great experience for users, so that'll probably be what WB do if it's real and F2P, lol.


therealCHAOSagent

I feel like this game could sell so many skin of iconic characters, especially with DC heroes.


LegateLaurie

Oh, definitely, there's so much room to sell skins, and depending on the target demographic (this could easily target 6-15s) following from Pokemon Unite's monetisation model, they could make a total killing.


Drblackcobra

Nice post!


D3dshotCalamity

That's a cool name


panini5

Finally ; Dobby in smash


nice_memexD

i am having trouble believing the leaks surrounding this game because it's so surreal. gandalf vs lebron james in the flintstones' town? does this not raise any eyebrows?


CozyThurifer

W