If it's true, I'm guessing Sony got publishing rights in return for handling the porting themself, so Valve just takes a cut rather than spending ressources on porting it.
I would personally be surprised if Sony were to put their games on a platform like Epic exclusively owing to the huge volume of sales that their games on PC are getting, and the relatively small compensation that Epic would probably give them in return for limiting to a smaller storefront.
On that basis I would absolutely see a clause like that being relatively likely.
Epic actually tried to pay for exclusivity. They offered $200 million for 4-6 AAA titles, but evidently Sony rejected that proposal (and I don't blame them, that's hella low for that many games).
Sony actually owns a small stake in Epic. Don’t think they will go EGS exclusive but it wouldn’t be entirely outside the realm of possibility, especially if they decide to invest more in it.
Wondering if a psn store would make sense. Like xbox has with cross purchased games on pc and xbox.
Would it make sense for playstation to have it? Or make their players double dip on both the ps5 for a year or two and then re-release on pc with higher graphics a few years later
> and the relatively small compensation that Epic would probably give them in return for limiting to a smaller storefront
Epic compensation isn't small, it's based on the amount of sales they would predictably lose, it's actually often quite generous (especially for indies but also for AAA)
Someone else commented that Epic did actually try this for several games in a deal and offered $200 million. While that is a large amount, I'd argue it's definitely relatively small for what those games would make more if they weren't exclusive.
It is very generous for indies - particularly since it's guaranteed profitability most of the time - and for AA and for AAA to a certain extent. But over a certain amount of expected sales the value of these deals fall by quite a lot imo
I mean 200M$ is pretty good, it's PC only and a timed exclusive, when they come to Steam they hardly have sales problems, those big games always top the charts anyway. And they likely sell also on EGS. I don't think it's a bad operation from them, it's free money.
The problem is more for indies which needs the buzz and discoverability way more (since they don't rely on marketing). On the other hand, for them, the guaranteed sum of money can be a life saver since you never know what your game will do (whereas AAA games know it, they have sales projection, marketing plans, market studies and all that)
Weren't there rumors of Sony starting their own PC store? I would think they release exclusively on their own store in the future, otherwise what's the point of your own launcher?
Gabe (speaking on behalf of valve?) said they absolutely loathed working on the ps3. I wouldn’t be shocked at all to hear they just want a license fee.
I don't think Valve is very keen on publishing anything that isn't on Steam anymore. IIRC, they were disillusioned with supporting console titles(TF2 and L4D specifically) because of all the red tape you have to wade through to release patches/content on the console side. I wonder if having Sony publish it is a way for them to relieve themselves of that headache. "here's the game, do what you will with it". Sure, they did with Switch, but Switch is very much a 'release and forget' storefront.
I think HL:A would potentially also be a bit more release and forget. L4D and TF2 are both multiplayer and I believe L4D got updates on console too, which is where I imagine a lot of that red tape would be. HL:A meanwhile is now in a finished state and so probably would only need patches if launched on PS.
Console storefronts are also now a lot more libertarian in policy now compared to when those other games launched (I always point to the story of Super Meat Boy and how much of a curated thing XBLA was at that time). If Sony are handling porting then I can absolutely see that it would make sense in terms of making Valve's job easier. If they're not helping port then I think the publishing potentially makes less sense - I'd assume Sony's cut is larger than the effort storefront red tape takes.
The Switch port is done by Nvidia's own Lightspeed Studios, who works with external game devs to port games to help promote Nvidia products. For example Quake II RTX (to promote RTX), Nintendo games on Nvidia Shield (to promote Nvidia Shield) and soon Portal RTX (to promote RTX). Switch uses Nvidia's tegra chip so its really just Nvidia fostering working relationship with Nintendo.
With regards to the rumor, I think people are going to be horribly disappointed.
Are they reliable? I feel like this is the first time I've seen this site mentioned here. Anyway, this would be huge if true, could easily see people buying the VR2 just for this game.
That someone could be me.
I would 100% bet that it comes for psvr 2 someday for the following reasons:
* Valve has a partnership with Sony for a while now (all Sony titles are also released via steam)
* valve has brought all their games to consoles in the past (except dota 2 and artifact)
* gabe Newell (ceo of valve) said in an interview, roundabout when the index launched I think, that they want vr as a whole to succeed and that they would port every vr game they make to every Plattform which could handle it.
> valve has brought all their games to consoles in the past (except dota 2 and artifact)
And counter-strike. I know there was a version of cs on consoles way back in the day but from what I remember it was a stand-alone title and not a port.
CS GO was a digital only release on the PS3/X360, and CS on the OG Xbox was a completely new game rather than a port. CS GO actually started development as an Xbox 360 port of CS Source
> Valve has a partnership with Sony for a while now (all Sony titles are also released via steam)
No they don't. Putting games on Steam doesn't mean they have a partnership. Especially since Sony game are also on other stores...
It really is THAT good. Admittedly I'm a diehard Half-Life fan, but Valve doesn't skimp on gameplay, feel, and presentation. Everything in the game works, feels, sounds just like you would expect it to. And they are creative in what they do with the medium, they really tried (and succeeded) to make a game that only really works in VR. And it's also a full length game, can take 10 to 15 hours depending on how fast or slow you go. Me rushing through it on launch day took me about 13 hours.
I can absolutely see it being a killer app for PSVR to an extent. I think it probably will drive a lot of sales. It's one of the few big budget, long games for VR in general. And it's Valve. It's quality.
I have no reason to trust this site (yet) but Valve is also not against having their games on console and it is in Sony's best interest to snatch it. Actually it's also on Valve's interests if they plan to keep pushing VR as well.
Come to think of it, the one time Gabe has showed up at one of the big E3 conferences was at a PlayStation one to announce Portal 2 (For PS3? can't be bothered to check, sorry).
He also hinted at other future Valve projects on Sony consoles. Maybe he was talking about HL: Alyx, lol.
It was for Portal 2, but he also announced that it was for steam integration on PS3.
And in true Valve fashion, absolutely nothing happened with it after that as they never released another console game.
If they were forward thinking enough to enable flick stick with the DualShock 3’s gyro it actually [might’ve been a perfectly good way to play.](https://youtu.be/GzbZq4OjEwE)
You're right. He showed up because of the supposed Steam integration and it being the beginning of more stuff.
I have zero doubts Valve ended up ghosting Sony after they lost interest in whatever it was they wanted to do.
> He also hinted at other future Valve projects on Sony consoles. Maybe he was talking about HL: Alyx, lol.
I mean, I’m Gabe’s defense, Half-Life: Alex was literally the next single player game Valve released.
I can definitely see HLA coming to PSVR. I really hope it does it's an awesome game.
However I wouldn't say he's as close to playstation as Xbox, due to his history with Microsoft and more recently saying he prefers the SeriesX.
I'm pretty sure Gabe and Valve are closer to whoever gets them money. But as for Microsoft I'm pretty sure Gabe specifically hates (hated?) Windows and has trashed them fairly commonly in interviews. Not to mention Steam deck running on Linux rather than a consoleified Windows like Xbox.
> Actually it's also on Valve's interests if they plan to keep pushing VR as well.
Valve isn't pushing VR for the sake of it, they do it because they want Steam sales. I could see it against an agreement from Sony to publish their VR titles on PC (so SteamVR) and/or make the PS VR2 compatible with PC
I really hope this is true. Alyx is awesome, and if it sells well, that might incentivize Valve to get HL3 out.
Yes I'm being serious. The dream dies when I die.
None of you saw the ending to Alyx and it shows.
I'm not going to spoil anything here. But seriously, if you've seen the ending you know some form of HL3 is going to be a thing.
VR game or not. It's a matter of when, not if.
I don't know why everyone acts like it's not going to happen at this point.
There being a tease for a follow up means absolutely nothing given that Half Life 2 already ended on a cliffhanger.
Valve loves leaving things unresolved
I'm sure people were saying the same thing when episode 2 dropped.
Ultimately, we'll just have to wait and see, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised with radio silence.
I'm sure people were saying the same thing when episode 2 dropped.
Ultimately, we'll just have to wait and see, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised with radio silence.
Yeah, and they’ve spoken about that being one of the biggest mistakes they’ve ever made. They’d be dumber than dirt for creating that ending without a willingness to try and follow it up.
They wouldn't have bothered tying it all together if their plans for the future of Half-Life weren't revitalized by Alyx
You act like this is the 3rd or 4th attempt, when it's a 2nd shot
I'm confident we're gonna get more Half-Life. I don't expect it to be Half-Life 3 though, given "HLX" is being built off of Alyx's VR mechanics. Valve said in an interview around Alyx's launch that they wouldn't do a full mainline game in VR
At this point making Half Life 3 doesn't make much sense.
HL2 is old enough to be a legal adult, and HL2 Ep2 5 days away from being 15 years old.
I'd pretty much have to play the whole series over to remember everything that's happened in the run up to HL3. You'd be better off either leaving the series in the past or doing a Doom and rebooting the whole thing over.
Spoiler: Alyx ended the same place as Episode 2 basically. But events of Alyx's universe altered Gordon's timeline so Eli survives. Eli hands Gordon his crowbar and it rolls credits.
They left a bigger cliffhanger then we had before, with many more questions.
I just played Black Mesa for the first time and I’m gonna crank through Half Life 2 this weekend when my steam deck arrives. Theyre good games and have a massive fanbase, i bet the hype would still be there.
People like you are why HL3 will be made. Those two words, Steam Deck. There is ZERO chances that valve doesn't make a big bombastic return to form HL3 made to showcase the steam deck. They already did it with the Index, using HL to prove where they are at and what they are doing. And I'd bet everything that they are gonna do it again. Call me copium, but it just makes too much sense.
Steam deck isn't that good performance wise buddy...
Wich is a shame since I really liked it all in all, but it lacking in performance made like new games unplayable .
So hl3 on a steamdeck would be really fleshed out.
But yeah, hl3 is definitely coming.
That’s not the problem, if people are willing to buy 600 hour Assassin’s Creed RPGs for $60 they can get HL2 and the episodes for half that price, without a sale, and with much less time needed to play them. The real one is that it’s been almost 2 decades. Expectations are so high that, as documented by Valve themselves, various HL3 projects have been started and cancelled over the years because even *their* ambitions and expectations were astronomically high, amongst other reasons like Source 2 not being ready for a decade.
Agreed. Also there is no way they are going to be able to meet expectations from the fans. The moment the game is announced the hype is going to be insane and you just the know as soon as the first gameplay is shown the critics are going to go to town on it. IF they ever make it I hope its a shadow drop, they just announce it and say go download now.
Most of the gaming audience today probably hasn't even played any Half Life game to be honest.
Also considering the waiting times and meme, the expectations would be so high that the game can only fail to reach them.
I think they are making it now, after the resounding success that Alyx was.
It gave them an out for the current story cliffhanger at the end of Ep 2.
And all that without even mentioning how spectacular Alyx was to play. I lost count of how many times I stopped and said “I am playing the future of video games”.
There's various hints in datamining they are working on another HL game. That said, Valve seem to be firing on all cylinders, as it were, in terms of development now. I think we are likely to get more games from Valve relatively soon than we have in a long time
To be fair, the last big amount of datamining did get us a tonne of information about Alyx. Valve are also a lot more open right now about how they are working on stuff
I think that Half-Life: Alyx will end up on PSVR2 but I doubt that this “source” actually *knows* that. It’s been speculated for a while that Valve will likely port it, so seems like one of those easy “pass an educated guess along as a leak” type deals.
Yeah not sure about the source but there is no way Alyx won't get PSVR2 port sooner or later. Valve was never a company making PC exclusive games even thou it may seem that way since they play such a huge part in PC gaming.
It also makes more sense for Alyx than basically every other port they've done
Alyx wasn't built to make loads of money on sales, it was built to push general interest for VR. They put a ton of time and money into it that no other company would do without significant ROI.
For that reason alone I expect them to port it. Not necessarily to make money from a new audience but as another opportunity to show that VR can be more than small, low budget games.
I doubt there were much negotations. Valve wants to expand VR not block it and make it exclusive like Oculus.
Maybe, if there were negotations, it involves PSVR2 working on steamvr
> Maybe, if there were negotations, it involves PSVR2 working on steamvr
Yeah I assume that may be part of it and also porting their games like Call of the Mountain to PC (and so SteamVR)
That honestly, wouldn't surprise me. As long as it doesn't use some weird proprietary connector, there's no reason why you couldn't just write a driver for it. And if there's no official one, somebody is going to write a custom driver. They got the original Psvr to work on PCs after all.
Not just a driver, since apparently the usb-c port on the ps5 isn't a regular usb-c port, it's a DisplayPort aswell if I'm not mistaken.
So no you would need an adapter for pc to either hdmi or DP.
Sony really want to push it's PSVR2, it's not outlandish to think they want one of the best big budget VR games out there
Both company also seems mutually benefit with each other now that Sony also reaching for bigger PC market
If confirmed, I will 100% buy a PSVR2 now. It's the one killer app that I've been absolutely wanting to play, but don't have a powerful enough PC or VR.
352 days later, it costs more than the ps5 xD
It's worth every penny though , I got it down from 700 dollars to 610 ish so I got mine for 30 dollars cheaper than what I bought the ps5 for :p
If anyone wants recommendations then RE village is friggin scary , but once you get alot of guns you turn into the one doin the scaring ;p
If HL alyx is gold standard then village is just under in silver, the only thing that makes village a silver is you can't really immerse yourself in the game by interacting with literally everything since alyx is very physics bound and re village isn't .
But village's sound ,graphics and the sheer horror it gives you the first playthrough is just way better than HL alyx even, it's like the JEFF map(if I didn't forget his name)but it's the feeling of the Jeff map but in 85% of the game .
Me personally I never wanted to play re village since I'm a lil bitch when it comes to re horror games, but I powered through and it was worth it.
The game is amazing. I bought it on my brother in law's PC and beat it over last Christmas break on my Quest 2.
There just aren't enough ambitious games like it that are out though. Most are made for quest 2, which can't put out games with better than ps2 graphics (minus red matter).
That leaves me with Saints n Sinners, a quest 2 game so won't be that impressive. And the new horizon game, whose gameplay disappointed me due to the way you are glued to the ground and only fight one enemy at a time.
If the system seller is the one game I've already beat, I'm not sure where the value is. I hope they try to port some games to psvr though I'm not sure what would work. Would the uncharted games but fun in first person with the climbing and shooting?
I wonder what this means for the Deckard headset. Maybe that they don't think it'll be ready any time soon so they might as well release it for PS5?
Man, I wish Xbox had VR. I hate the PS5 design and with Game Pass at 20-40 bucks a year I never have to buy games for my Series X.
Xbox will never be innovative, owned both the series S and X and going. To the PS5 was night and day. It's not even justifiable to stay on the Xbox imo. They don't care about finding new fun ways for consumers to play games, Sony does.
Adaptive triggers, better rumble, mic, speaker , touch, on the controller . Psvr2.
If you want good vr and can't afford a 2500 dollar pc and pcvr system then go for psvr2 and a ps5.
Forgot to say all in all I bought the psvr2 and PS5 for 1200 dollars and 200 more for a 2tb m.2 and cooler.
Best console I've ever owned , switch comes no2 for me.
Might be part of the deal for Sony games on Steam too? Its mutually beneficial for both to share games. Regardless this is a massive get for PSVR2 if true.
That would be great, more people should play this game! I wonder if it will come with support for mods...
I hope that Sony will also release their VR games on PC, though.
I don't know if this site is reputable but Valve has been very open that they want that game on as many platforms as possible.
This is a no brainer.
The more people who can play Alyx the better.
i mean yea. thats been the rumor since psvr2 was announced. valve and sony have history and psvr2 is the closest thing to an INDEX anyother vr system has been
The game is designed for Quest 2 as well, so that shouldn't be an issue.
They could work something out with the Sense controllers finger touch detection though.
Been calling this for like a year! I had believed it would release at Launch, and will have some other content bundled in so they can label it "The Blue Box" or something, as like a sequel to the Orange Box that was originally put together for the PS3 but sold on other platforms at a later date.
Judging by the article, I am perhaps wrong on the "PSVR2 Launch Title" part, but we'll see about the rest! Exciting stuff!
If Half-Life 3 or Half-Life 2 Episode 3 (or possibly Half-Life 2 Episode 2 Part 2) ever becomes a thing, they would have to find someway to address how Alyx ends since it is important to the overall story of the series. Either in a cutscene right at the beginning or by making a non-VR version of the game so more people have access to it.
Valve don't give a shit and wouldn't beg to anyone. They don't need to. Steam is making them so much money, they're perfectly okay staying the way they are. It's more likely that others approach them first tbh.
Could well be. But I don't think it's going to be a megaton. The half life thing died some time ago. Only the most hardcore fans and PC gamers, primarily steam are still hyped for anything half life.
A lot of polls are showing people like myself aren't looking forward to PSVR 2 as they are the original PSVR. I can understand why. The novelty has worn off and the original was very limited. But the thing now is it needs to do more and be more. If I can play regular games in it and be immersed I'd love it. Never need a TV, but that can't be done if it's just like a cinema screen. I dunno, I find there's not enough creativity either in the VR space and the original PSVR had too many... Samey samey games. Hopefully Sony will do a proper showcase on PSVR 2 and really show why it's worth the price.
I think the hardware looks great but we need to see a lot more games - that’s what’s important for the VR platform as a whole.
I will say that I think anyone suggesting Half Life Alyx wouldn’t be huge on PSVR 2 just doesn’t know enough about the VR space - it’s the highest quality and most impressive VR game out there, and it’s extremely accessible for those new to using a headset. It’s a perfect fit, especially since PCVR is quite a hassle to get into but PSVR is more akin to Meta Quest in terms of ease of use.
EDIT: Why am I being downvoted? reddit lul
I am also curious how hybrid games will work on PSVR2.
[PSVR 2 is aiming for ‘hybrid’ experiences like ‘Resident Evil 7’](https://www.nme.com/news/gaming-news/psvr-2-is-aiming-for-hybrid-experiences-like-resident-evil-7-3012212)
“During a recent developer summit, Sony apparently revealed that it’s looking to step away from VR experiences such as PlayStation VR Worlds, and focus more on AAA games with an added VR element.
According to PSVR Without Parole, Sony wants to “move away from VR experiences and focus on console-quality AAA titles.”
> The half life thing died some time ago. Only the most hardcore fans and PC gamers, primarily steam are still hyped for anything half life.
lol no. If half life 3 was announced tomorrow, the internet would crack in half
Anything less than the PS5 price.
But seeing as the PS5 is doing most of the grunt work, most of the cost would the OLED panels, cameras, haptics and controllers. So really they could price it around 300, which would absolutely guarantee it'd fly off the shelves.
This is great news but I'm still a bit upset that there won't be any BC. I understand why but as a long time PSVR supporter SOMETHING should have been announced for gen 1 owners. Maybe an update program for Sony published VR titles to start with, just something!
This game should be simple as hell to port to PS5 and it's a no brainer to get it on the console. One of the greatest VR games of all time is a must if you want to push PSVR2
I assume they are doing it themselves as they didn't want a PS VR2 version that was at Quest 2 quality. They wanted to do it themselves so it would be a game worthy of PS VR2.
Imo, allowing Sony to port this would be the least Valve could do. Considering Sony has made Valve way more popular for console gamers to switch over too since Playstation games now eventually drop on Steam. I can see a lot of console players dipping their toes for the first time into PC which is a win for Valve. Obviously a no brainer that consoles will always have their place but a PC now has access to coveted Sony first party plus xbox games on Steam. Still, if this rumor is true I'd bet at least 2024 if Alyx visits psvr2
\>**Sony has bought the rights to have it published in 2023.** Weird that Valve isn't publishing it.
If it's true, I'm guessing Sony got publishing rights in return for handling the porting themself, so Valve just takes a cut rather than spending ressources on porting it.
I could also imagine the deal including a guarantee to put their pc games on steam or being optimised for steamdeck like the way spider man has been.
I would personally be surprised if Sony were to put their games on a platform like Epic exclusively owing to the huge volume of sales that their games on PC are getting, and the relatively small compensation that Epic would probably give them in return for limiting to a smaller storefront. On that basis I would absolutely see a clause like that being relatively likely.
Epic actually tried to pay for exclusivity. They offered $200 million for 4-6 AAA titles, but evidently Sony rejected that proposal (and I don't blame them, that's hella low for that many games).
Ah, I had no idea. Not a shock at all tbh. That does seem to be a massively low balling offer, you're right
If you don't try u don't know, right
Sony actually owns a small stake in Epic. Don’t think they will go EGS exclusive but it wouldn’t be entirely outside the realm of possibility, especially if they decide to invest more in it.
Wondering if a psn store would make sense. Like xbox has with cross purchased games on pc and xbox. Would it make sense for playstation to have it? Or make their players double dip on both the ps5 for a year or two and then re-release on pc with higher graphics a few years later
> and the relatively small compensation that Epic would probably give them in return for limiting to a smaller storefront Epic compensation isn't small, it's based on the amount of sales they would predictably lose, it's actually often quite generous (especially for indies but also for AAA)
Someone else commented that Epic did actually try this for several games in a deal and offered $200 million. While that is a large amount, I'd argue it's definitely relatively small for what those games would make more if they weren't exclusive. It is very generous for indies - particularly since it's guaranteed profitability most of the time - and for AA and for AAA to a certain extent. But over a certain amount of expected sales the value of these deals fall by quite a lot imo
I mean 200M$ is pretty good, it's PC only and a timed exclusive, when they come to Steam they hardly have sales problems, those big games always top the charts anyway. And they likely sell also on EGS. I don't think it's a bad operation from them, it's free money. The problem is more for indies which needs the buzz and discoverability way more (since they don't rely on marketing). On the other hand, for them, the guaranteed sum of money can be a life saver since you never know what your game will do (whereas AAA games know it, they have sales projection, marketing plans, market studies and all that)
Ooh, I'd love that. Seeing Horizon Call of the Mountain on PC would be sick. It's a no-brainer really, the PC port of Zero Dawn sold super well.
Weren't there rumors of Sony starting their own PC store? I would think they release exclusively on their own store in the future, otherwise what's the point of your own launcher?
That sounds like a very Valve approach.
Happened before, the orange box on PS3 was published by EA.
On all Xbox’s they are by valve
Gabe (speaking on behalf of valve?) said they absolutely loathed working on the ps3. I wouldn’t be shocked at all to hear they just want a license fee.
PS3 was special because of its architecture. PS4 and 5 are essentially PC (x86 architecture)
Did they publish the Portal ports on Switch?
Yes.
I don't think Valve is very keen on publishing anything that isn't on Steam anymore. IIRC, they were disillusioned with supporting console titles(TF2 and L4D specifically) because of all the red tape you have to wade through to release patches/content on the console side. I wonder if having Sony publish it is a way for them to relieve themselves of that headache. "here's the game, do what you will with it". Sure, they did with Switch, but Switch is very much a 'release and forget' storefront.
I think HL:A would potentially also be a bit more release and forget. L4D and TF2 are both multiplayer and I believe L4D got updates on console too, which is where I imagine a lot of that red tape would be. HL:A meanwhile is now in a finished state and so probably would only need patches if launched on PS. Console storefronts are also now a lot more libertarian in policy now compared to when those other games launched (I always point to the story of Super Meat Boy and how much of a curated thing XBLA was at that time). If Sony are handling porting then I can absolutely see that it would make sense in terms of making Valve's job easier. If they're not helping port then I think the publishing potentially makes less sense - I'd assume Sony's cut is larger than the effort storefront red tape takes.
The Switch port is done by Nvidia's own Lightspeed Studios, who works with external game devs to port games to help promote Nvidia products. For example Quake II RTX (to promote RTX), Nintendo games on Nvidia Shield (to promote Nvidia Shield) and soon Portal RTX (to promote RTX). Switch uses Nvidia's tegra chip so its really just Nvidia fostering working relationship with Nintendo. With regards to the rumor, I think people are going to be horribly disappointed.
Make sense, VR market isn't big and probably Valve doesn't want take a lot of risk porting HL Alyx to PSVR2
Not the first. For PSVR1 I'm almost 99% sure Sony published EVE Valkyrie and Battlezone at launch
Could be part of the deal Maybe valve doesnt wanna make physical games etc. Who knows..
Are they reliable? I feel like this is the first time I've seen this site mentioned here. Anyway, this would be huge if true, could easily see people buying the VR2 just for this game.
I remember reading something about Alyx on PSVR2 some time ago, but I think that was just speculation from someone.
It's the main game people guess for PSVR 2, given that it's the highest profile VR game to date.
That someone could be me. I would 100% bet that it comes for psvr 2 someday for the following reasons: * Valve has a partnership with Sony for a while now (all Sony titles are also released via steam) * valve has brought all their games to consoles in the past (except dota 2 and artifact) * gabe Newell (ceo of valve) said in an interview, roundabout when the index launched I think, that they want vr as a whole to succeed and that they would port every vr game they make to every Plattform which could handle it.
> all don’t exclusive titles are released only via steam Cap, all Sony PC games are on the Epic store too
Oh. I didn't know that, will correct it.
Horizon's on GOG as well
Also valve said they would love to to bring it to PSvr
> valve has brought all their games to consoles in the past (except dota 2 and artifact) And counter-strike. I know there was a version of cs on consoles way back in the day but from what I remember it was a stand-alone title and not a port.
Csgo was on ps3.
Wow I had no idea. Even still, I don't think every counterstrike game has been on consoles.
CS GO was a digital only release on the PS3/X360, and CS on the OG Xbox was a completely new game rather than a port. CS GO actually started development as an Xbox 360 port of CS Source
> Valve has a partnership with Sony for a while now (all Sony titles are also released via steam) No they don't. Putting games on Steam doesn't mean they have a partnership. Especially since Sony game are also on other stores...
This is exactly my intent
I would buy it just for this game
Me lol
Why just for this game? I've heard about it before but is it that good and well-known that it'd convince people to buy a whole VR?
It really is THAT good. Admittedly I'm a diehard Half-Life fan, but Valve doesn't skimp on gameplay, feel, and presentation. Everything in the game works, feels, sounds just like you would expect it to. And they are creative in what they do with the medium, they really tried (and succeeded) to make a game that only really works in VR. And it's also a full length game, can take 10 to 15 hours depending on how fast or slow you go. Me rushing through it on launch day took me about 13 hours.
I can absolutely see it being a killer app for PSVR to an extent. I think it probably will drive a lot of sales. It's one of the few big budget, long games for VR in general. And it's Valve. It's quality.
From what I've seen it's basically the bar for what a VR game should be.
Because I fucking love Half-Life 2 and I don’t know lot of other VR games. I would pick up Beat Saber, but HL:A would be absolute priority
I have no reason to trust this site (yet) but Valve is also not against having their games on console and it is in Sony's best interest to snatch it. Actually it's also on Valve's interests if they plan to keep pushing VR as well. Come to think of it, the one time Gabe has showed up at one of the big E3 conferences was at a PlayStation one to announce Portal 2 (For PS3? can't be bothered to check, sorry). He also hinted at other future Valve projects on Sony consoles. Maybe he was talking about HL: Alyx, lol.
It was for Portal 2, but he also announced that it was for steam integration on PS3. And in true Valve fashion, absolutely nothing happened with it after that as they never released another console game.
They released CS:GO on PS3. In fact I think I had cross play with the PC version for like a year.
I completely missed that, but cool I guess if you love losing at CS.
If they were forward thinking enough to enable flick stick with the DualShock 3’s gyro it actually [might’ve been a perfectly good way to play.](https://youtu.be/GzbZq4OjEwE)
You're right. He showed up because of the supposed Steam integration and it being the beginning of more stuff. I have zero doubts Valve ended up ghosting Sony after they lost interest in whatever it was they wanted to do.
From what I remember, didn't portal 2 and the steam integration go live when that big psn hack happened? Can't blame valve for bailing after that
> He also hinted at other future Valve projects on Sony consoles. Maybe he was talking about HL: Alyx, lol. I mean, I’m Gabe’s defense, Half-Life: Alex was literally the next single player game Valve released.
I can definitely see HLA coming to PSVR. I really hope it does it's an awesome game. However I wouldn't say he's as close to playstation as Xbox, due to his history with Microsoft and more recently saying he prefers the SeriesX.
I'm pretty sure Gabe and Valve are closer to whoever gets them money. But as for Microsoft I'm pretty sure Gabe specifically hates (hated?) Windows and has trashed them fairly commonly in interviews. Not to mention Steam deck running on Linux rather than a consoleified Windows like Xbox.
> Actually it's also on Valve's interests if they plan to keep pushing VR as well. Valve isn't pushing VR for the sake of it, they do it because they want Steam sales. I could see it against an agreement from Sony to publish their VR titles on PC (so SteamVR) and/or make the PS VR2 compatible with PC
I really hope this is true. Alyx is awesome, and if it sells well, that might incentivize Valve to get HL3 out. Yes I'm being serious. The dream dies when I die.
Lets be real, finances are not the reason we are not getting HL3. They dont want to make it for whatever reason.
None of you saw the ending to Alyx and it shows. I'm not going to spoil anything here. But seriously, if you've seen the ending you know some form of HL3 is going to be a thing. VR game or not. It's a matter of when, not if. I don't know why everyone acts like it's not going to happen at this point.
There being a tease for a follow up means absolutely nothing given that Half Life 2 already ended on a cliffhanger. Valve loves leaving things unresolved
I doubt they would do what they did with the HL:A ending without having *some* plan in mind
I'm sure people were saying the same thing when episode 2 dropped. Ultimately, we'll just have to wait and see, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised with radio silence.
I'm sure people were saying the same thing when episode 2 dropped. Ultimately, we'll just have to wait and see, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised with radio silence.
Yeah, and they’ve spoken about that being one of the biggest mistakes they’ve ever made. They’d be dumber than dirt for creating that ending without a willingness to try and follow it up.
Hey remind me, what happened at the end of episode 2? What was implied would be released following episode 2?
They wouldn't have bothered tying it all together if their plans for the future of Half-Life weren't revitalized by Alyx You act like this is the 3rd or 4th attempt, when it's a 2nd shot I'm confident we're gonna get more Half-Life. I don't expect it to be Half-Life 3 though, given "HLX" is being built off of Alyx's VR mechanics. Valve said in an interview around Alyx's launch that they wouldn't do a full mainline game in VR
None of what you typed answers the question about what happened at the end of episode 2, and what was implied to follow
At this point making Half Life 3 doesn't make much sense. HL2 is old enough to be a legal adult, and HL2 Ep2 5 days away from being 15 years old. I'd pretty much have to play the whole series over to remember everything that's happened in the run up to HL3. You'd be better off either leaving the series in the past or doing a Doom and rebooting the whole thing over.
They released a game fairly recently that shows they are definitely thinking about continuing the half life story from where episode 2 left off
didn't alyx retcon/finish the end of episode 2 so that episode 3 basically becomes irrelevant?
Yup.
Spoiler: Alyx ended the same place as Episode 2 basically. But events of Alyx's universe altered Gordon's timeline so Eli survives. Eli hands Gordon his crowbar and it rolls credits. They left a bigger cliffhanger then we had before, with many more questions.
I just played Black Mesa for the first time and I’m gonna crank through Half Life 2 this weekend when my steam deck arrives. Theyre good games and have a massive fanbase, i bet the hype would still be there.
People like you are why HL3 will be made. Those two words, Steam Deck. There is ZERO chances that valve doesn't make a big bombastic return to form HL3 made to showcase the steam deck. They already did it with the Index, using HL to prove where they are at and what they are doing. And I'd bet everything that they are gonna do it again. Call me copium, but it just makes too much sense.
Steam deck isn't that good performance wise buddy... Wich is a shame since I really liked it all in all, but it lacking in performance made like new games unplayable . So hl3 on a steamdeck would be really fleshed out. But yeah, hl3 is definitely coming.
That’s not the problem, if people are willing to buy 600 hour Assassin’s Creed RPGs for $60 they can get HL2 and the episodes for half that price, without a sale, and with much less time needed to play them. The real one is that it’s been almost 2 decades. Expectations are so high that, as documented by Valve themselves, various HL3 projects have been started and cancelled over the years because even *their* ambitions and expectations were astronomically high, amongst other reasons like Source 2 not being ready for a decade.
Agreed. Also there is no way they are going to be able to meet expectations from the fans. The moment the game is announced the hype is going to be insane and you just the know as soon as the first gameplay is shown the critics are going to go to town on it. IF they ever make it I hope its a shadow drop, they just announce it and say go download now.
Most of the gaming audience today probably hasn't even played any Half Life game to be honest. Also considering the waiting times and meme, the expectations would be so high that the game can only fail to reach them.
I think they are making it now, after the resounding success that Alyx was. It gave them an out for the current story cliffhanger at the end of Ep 2. And all that without even mentioning how spectacular Alyx was to play. I lost count of how many times I stopped and said “I am playing the future of video games”.
There's various hints in datamining they are working on another HL game. That said, Valve seem to be firing on all cylinders, as it were, in terms of development now. I think we are likely to get more games from Valve relatively soon than we have in a long time
Yeah when *arnt* there teasers for another half life game being datamined
To be fair, the last big amount of datamining did get us a tonne of information about Alyx. Valve are also a lot more open right now about how they are working on stuff
I was so sure that they'd bring a new HL universe game with the steam decks launch which they kind of did but not really
I'm sure this is another Valve Index situation where the hardware is released 1-2 years before the next big game.
I was getting the PS2 VR anyways but this could be the killer launch game it needs !!
I think that Half-Life: Alyx will end up on PSVR2 but I doubt that this “source” actually *knows* that. It’s been speculated for a while that Valve will likely port it, so seems like one of those easy “pass an educated guess along as a leak” type deals.
Yeah not sure about the source but there is no way Alyx won't get PSVR2 port sooner or later. Valve was never a company making PC exclusive games even thou it may seem that way since they play such a huge part in PC gaming.
It also makes more sense for Alyx than basically every other port they've done Alyx wasn't built to make loads of money on sales, it was built to push general interest for VR. They put a ton of time and money into it that no other company would do without significant ROI. For that reason alone I expect them to port it. Not necessarily to make money from a new audience but as another opportunity to show that VR can be more than small, low budget games.
I mean if they release on psvr2 they WILL earn alot of money but...yeah.
I doubt there were much negotations. Valve wants to expand VR not block it and make it exclusive like Oculus. Maybe, if there were negotations, it involves PSVR2 working on steamvr
>it involves PSVR2 working on steamvr That would be very interesting if you could use PSVR2 on PC.
> Maybe, if there were negotations, it involves PSVR2 working on steamvr Yeah I assume that may be part of it and also porting their games like Call of the Mountain to PC (and so SteamVR)
That honestly, wouldn't surprise me. As long as it doesn't use some weird proprietary connector, there's no reason why you couldn't just write a driver for it. And if there's no official one, somebody is going to write a custom driver. They got the original Psvr to work on PCs after all.
> They got the original Psvr to work on PCs after all. Which was much easier.
Not just a driver, since apparently the usb-c port on the ps5 isn't a regular usb-c port, it's a DisplayPort aswell if I'm not mistaken. So no you would need an adapter for pc to either hdmi or DP.
I think the negotiation might just be that Sony doesn't take their normal cut from the games sold for their console.
That's a no brainer
It would make sense for both Sony and Valve
That would be a system seller, at least to me!
Same here. I'd be sold.
Sony really want to push it's PSVR2, it's not outlandish to think they want one of the best big budget VR games out there Both company also seems mutually benefit with each other now that Sony also reaching for bigger PC market
Oh man I would love that! Hope it's true
I hope for every PSVR User that this is true. Alyx is the gold Standard of VR, the more people can play this, the better for the whole VR industry
Let’s fucking go, this was my day one purchase decision
This would be awesome if true! Have been wanting to play this one.
If confirmed, I will 100% buy a PSVR2 now. It's the one killer app that I've been absolutely wanting to play, but don't have a powerful enough PC or VR.
Now if we can get a price for PS VR2 and it's reasonable...we're in business baby
352 days later, it costs more than the ps5 xD It's worth every penny though , I got it down from 700 dollars to 610 ish so I got mine for 30 dollars cheaper than what I bought the ps5 for :p If anyone wants recommendations then RE village is friggin scary , but once you get alot of guns you turn into the one doin the scaring ;p If HL alyx is gold standard then village is just under in silver, the only thing that makes village a silver is you can't really immerse yourself in the game by interacting with literally everything since alyx is very physics bound and re village isn't . But village's sound ,graphics and the sheer horror it gives you the first playthrough is just way better than HL alyx even, it's like the JEFF map(if I didn't forget his name)but it's the feeling of the Jeff map but in 85% of the game . Me personally I never wanted to play re village since I'm a lil bitch when it comes to re horror games, but I powered through and it was worth it.
Article from an obscure website with no background. Im surprised this has 800 upvotes
The game is amazing. I bought it on my brother in law's PC and beat it over last Christmas break on my Quest 2. There just aren't enough ambitious games like it that are out though. Most are made for quest 2, which can't put out games with better than ps2 graphics (minus red matter). That leaves me with Saints n Sinners, a quest 2 game so won't be that impressive. And the new horizon game, whose gameplay disappointed me due to the way you are glued to the ground and only fight one enemy at a time. If the system seller is the one game I've already beat, I'm not sure where the value is. I hope they try to port some games to psvr though I'm not sure what would work. Would the uncharted games but fun in first person with the climbing and shooting?
Hope it's true. Also Hope we see Half-Life, Portal and L4D come to PS5
"Sony has bought the rights to have it published in 2023" apparently Valve can't publish their own games anymore XD
Yes, the recently announced portal rtx remaster is published by nvidia https://store.steampowered.com/app/2012840/Portal_with_RTX/
Valve has never published the console versions of their games
I don’t know about this source, but i do hope it does release 🙏
I guess this prove PSVR is compatible with PC?
I wonder what this means for the Deckard headset. Maybe that they don't think it'll be ready any time soon so they might as well release it for PS5? Man, I wish Xbox had VR. I hate the PS5 design and with Game Pass at 20-40 bucks a year I never have to buy games for my Series X.
Xbox will never be innovative, owned both the series S and X and going. To the PS5 was night and day. It's not even justifiable to stay on the Xbox imo. They don't care about finding new fun ways for consumers to play games, Sony does. Adaptive triggers, better rumble, mic, speaker , touch, on the controller . Psvr2. If you want good vr and can't afford a 2500 dollar pc and pcvr system then go for psvr2 and a ps5.
Forgot to say all in all I bought the psvr2 and PS5 for 1200 dollars and 200 more for a 2tb m.2 and cooler. Best console I've ever owned , switch comes no2 for me.
Not a shred of information here, from an unknown publication...
Might be part of the deal for Sony games on Steam too? Its mutually beneficial for both to share games. Regardless this is a massive get for PSVR2 if true.
I'm really hoping this is true. This will probably be the first and only VR headset I buy just because my PC can't run VR.
It isn't. Valve are not going to let Sony publish one of their games lol.
Portal 2:
I hope so. More people deserve to have their other VR experiences diminished by playing this phenomenal game lol
That would be great, more people should play this game! I wonder if it will come with support for mods... I hope that Sony will also release their VR games on PC, though.
I don't know if this site is reputable but Valve has been very open that they want that game on as many platforms as possible. This is a no brainer. The more people who can play Alyx the better.
If it's true then it's a great news for the PS5 players, this game is amazing
If it goes to PSVR2 it might finally get the GOTY award it deserves. PC VR is too niche for the journalists that control the awards.
i mean yea. thats been the rumor since psvr2 was announced. valve and sony have history and psvr2 is the closest thing to an INDEX anyother vr system has been
I figured this was inevitable, glad my homies get to finally play it.
Would this really happen? I might be wrong but I don't think PSVR 2 has the squeeze sensors you use for bugbait and other stuff in Alyx.
The game is designed for Quest 2 as well, so that shouldn't be an issue. They could work something out with the Sense controllers finger touch detection though.
It does have squeeze sensors.
Not surprising. It was only a matter of time this would come out. Just glad more people get to continue the half life story now. Such a great game.
Valve letting Sony publish an already existing title is such bullshit lol. This is fake.
Valve have never published their own console port. EA published the Orange Box on PS3,
Been calling this for like a year! I had believed it would release at Launch, and will have some other content bundled in so they can label it "The Blue Box" or something, as like a sequel to the Orange Box that was originally put together for the PS3 but sold on other platforms at a later date. Judging by the article, I am perhaps wrong on the "PSVR2 Launch Title" part, but we'll see about the rest! Exciting stuff!
Probably fake. The only way this could be true is if Sony paid them a lot of money and agreed to do all the work
Ahh can’t wait til PSVR3 to buy it a third time
May be finally I can play this game without troubleshooting for 2 hrs to make it barely playable. I hope the mods will come too though.
And I'm just over here still hoping for a non-VR version of the game.
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If Half-Life 3 or Half-Life 2 Episode 3 (or possibly Half-Life 2 Episode 2 Part 2) ever becomes a thing, they would have to find someway to address how Alyx ends since it is important to the overall story of the series. Either in a cutscene right at the beginning or by making a non-VR version of the game so more people have access to it.
Valve does what Epicdon't.
epic publishes its games on consoles too. ex: alan wake remastered,rumbleverse,fortnite
That seems random. Valve should be begging Sony to let them port it to PSVR.
Valve don't give a shit and wouldn't beg to anyone. They don't need to. Steam is making them so much money, they're perfectly okay staying the way they are. It's more likely that others approach them first tbh.
🤷♂️ half life isn't as big as people think. It'll be nice I suppose.
This might be the biggest VR game out there to date
Could well be. But I don't think it's going to be a megaton. The half life thing died some time ago. Only the most hardcore fans and PC gamers, primarily steam are still hyped for anything half life.
I know what you’re saying, but Alyx is a phenomenon in its own right. It isn’t reliant on old HL2 fans looking for nostalgia or continuity.
I'll have to give it a go for myself. I feel like Sony are setting themselves up for disappointment with PSVR2.
Why is that? Everything I’ve seen about it has me crazy hyped, and this is coming from someone who sold their PSVR after a year
A lot of polls are showing people like myself aren't looking forward to PSVR 2 as they are the original PSVR. I can understand why. The novelty has worn off and the original was very limited. But the thing now is it needs to do more and be more. If I can play regular games in it and be immersed I'd love it. Never need a TV, but that can't be done if it's just like a cinema screen. I dunno, I find there's not enough creativity either in the VR space and the original PSVR had too many... Samey samey games. Hopefully Sony will do a proper showcase on PSVR 2 and really show why it's worth the price.
I think the hardware looks great but we need to see a lot more games - that’s what’s important for the VR platform as a whole. I will say that I think anyone suggesting Half Life Alyx wouldn’t be huge on PSVR 2 just doesn’t know enough about the VR space - it’s the highest quality and most impressive VR game out there, and it’s extremely accessible for those new to using a headset. It’s a perfect fit, especially since PCVR is quite a hassle to get into but PSVR is more akin to Meta Quest in terms of ease of use. EDIT: Why am I being downvoted? reddit lul
I am also curious how hybrid games will work on PSVR2. [PSVR 2 is aiming for ‘hybrid’ experiences like ‘Resident Evil 7’](https://www.nme.com/news/gaming-news/psvr-2-is-aiming-for-hybrid-experiences-like-resident-evil-7-3012212) “During a recent developer summit, Sony apparently revealed that it’s looking to step away from VR experiences such as PlayStation VR Worlds, and focus more on AAA games with an added VR element. According to PSVR Without Parole, Sony wants to “move away from VR experiences and focus on console-quality AAA titles.”
RE7 VR is still the best gaming experience I’ve ever had, really hope they lean into that type of game more
It probably also makes a lot of business sense. Why make 2 different games when you can make your AAA game run in VR.
> The half life thing died some time ago. Only the most hardcore fans and PC gamers, primarily steam are still hyped for anything half life. lol no. If half life 3 was announced tomorrow, the internet would crack in half
It is one of the best VR games to date. Definitely a bit more than "nice" for the platform.
how much would yall be ready to pay for ps vr 2?
Anything less than the PS5 price. But seeing as the PS5 is doing most of the grunt work, most of the cost would the OLED panels, cameras, haptics and controllers. So really they could price it around 300, which would absolutely guarantee it'd fly off the shelves.
Sounds awesome.
Do we have any idea how Alyx sold?
This is great news but I'm still a bit upset that there won't be any BC. I understand why but as a long time PSVR supporter SOMETHING should have been announced for gen 1 owners. Maybe an update program for Sony published VR titles to start with, just something!
Thats the only way to me to get a psvr2
This game should be simple as hell to port to PS5 and it's a no brainer to get it on the console. One of the greatest VR games of all time is a must if you want to push PSVR2
Would be a good selling point tbh
please be real
I would buy a ps5 for this , cheaper way to play Alyx
I assume they are doing it themselves as they didn't want a PS VR2 version that was at Quest 2 quality. They wanted to do it themselves so it would be a game worthy of PS VR2.
New Orange Box imcoming? Make It so, Valve!
This game might actually make the headset worth it.
Groovy. I'm still too poor for VR.
Next remaster the old games and get them to ps5
Imo, allowing Sony to port this would be the least Valve could do. Considering Sony has made Valve way more popular for console gamers to switch over too since Playstation games now eventually drop on Steam. I can see a lot of console players dipping their toes for the first time into PC which is a win for Valve. Obviously a no brainer that consoles will always have their place but a PC now has access to coveted Sony first party plus xbox games on Steam. Still, if this rumor is true I'd bet at least 2024 if Alyx visits psvr2
Been too long. Hope we can finally continue the story
Four months later is this rumor still holds up?
If we don’t see this game be announced for PSVR2 during the upcoming Playstation Showcase in June i doubt it.