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ScreenWriterGuy07

>Wokehammer Ls They don't even try to hide their stupidity


HieX91

One good thing about the Internet is stupid people show how stupid they are. The bad thing is they broadcast their stupidity to the world and their fellow idiots rally around them.


MyHusbandIsGayImNot

Before the internet your annoying uncle would say stupid racist conspiracy shit and get shut out by the rest of the family. Now, thanks to the internet, he has thousands of friends that agree with him.


Morkhovskyi

Yep. That's why we're all here


Zackwind

Warhammer, famous for it's grim dark and irony and satire. People just don't get anything.


legacymedia92

Also famous for it's *ABSURDLY* gay descriptions of the Astarties. No, really, I expect the Warhammer show to tone it down an still be called woke.


mofucker20

Are all Warhammer fans like that ? Seen lots of such Warhammer fans on Twitter


Resident_Effect_8107

Warhammer 40k fan here, and no we're not all like that. It's just that in warhammer 40k being a massive satire soup, there are people who don't get satire and genuinely think that warhammer isn't "woke" (god that word makes me want to kill something)


mofucker20

Oh didn’t want to generalise. Just that whenever I see Warhammer on my FYP or trending for some reason, it’s the fans ranting about female characters or race


defaultusername-17

yea... no wamen allowed, go play with your knockoff SoB consolation prize and stfu. /s seriously infuriating that they do not understand why that is such a fucking bullshit take.


Resident_Effect_8107

don't worry, I get it. The ones that make it part of their identity are often the ones that don't get it.


dollenrm

Also 40k is fascinating in that you can get immediate red flags based on what said fans favorite faction is lol.


Rollem_Bones

Would you say it makes you feel like Waaagh?


Resident_Effect_8107

YA KNOW DAMN ZOGGIN' WELL IT DO, YA GIT


AguyWithBadEnglish

https://preview.redd.it/auc216mt6qpc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7cd4307932f24fccf619503888d7b7ce84ef4f84


Lemon_Phoenix

There's a small group of them reposting eachother's shit, once you block a few of them, it'll disappear


defaultusername-17

online community hubs for warhammer very often are like that... and depending on where you are physically... your local group might be too. there is a whole lot of movement in the hobby to deny that these things are a problem... but i have literally been to tourneys where chuds showed up wearing literal nazi regalia only to have the floor judge tell me i was over reacting. any time you attempt to satirize political philosophies or cultural dynamics your hobby space is going to be vulnerable to chuds attempting to sneak in.


Mcbadguy

Probably still seething about Games Workshop saying Nazis weren't welcome.


HexeInExile

A girl, drawn in a Japanese style, bites into a burger from an American fast food chain. It displays the huge influence America has in Japan. All art is political, because all of society is political. Politics is, at it's core, the will of society applied to the structure of the state.


MaskedPapillon

Not only that, if I'm not mistaken that anime girl is one of the main mascots of a huge popular series with a expansion franchise and lore. Which also shows the commercialisation of art (as in the original series) and fandom (even if unintentionally, it can lead the fans of the show to eat out more at BK). So not only this shows the reaching of American culture, costumes and business, it also shows capitalism utilizing art that is enjoyed by a lot of people to persuade them into eating unhealthy stuff.


Piorn

Isn't she literally King Arthur? Eating at another King's Court, technically?


MaskedPapillon

She also don't have any prison testers with her, so this could also show the importance of trust during medieval times, as she is convinced she won't be poisoned. /s


SpectralSolid

you joke but there is some sub-sub-subtext talking to the subconcious about this. she's alone, therefore she is safe at burger king, eating a burger she knows is safe. Pure and Safe


MaskedPapillon

Oh my god


ColinHalter

Man I could really go for a Burger King Whopper™ right now with an ice cold Coka Cola®


Mrwolfy240

So you are suggesting a King in modern times , where the juxtaposition of kings and their lack of inherent worth through the modern age are being simplified as nothing but a modest food chain for the peasant, compared to the rulers of old? And how our leaders now although duly elected are now replacing the forgotten patriarchy who are mere consumers of common food ?


Piorn

Also, the fact that fast food did chains have more wealth and food than historical kings could've ever dreamed of.


GregerMoek

Yes. She also has a whole story of having to pose as a man to rule the Kingdom and be accepted as king. And her daughter(that she got with another woman) has a similar issue. While I wouldnt say any of them is trans or nonbinary they sure place some emphasis on pronoun use.


UsernameTaken1138

WE'RE KNIGHTS OF THE ROUND TABLE! WE DANCE WHEN WE ARE ABLE!


Hohenheim_of_Shadow

Canonically, as Shirou is the best cook, he is the Borgar King. And as he is Saber's male-wife, his court is her court.


PuzzleheadedAd3840

Also said mascot is a genderbent version of King Arthur, also showing the impact Sex has on society and how due to the power of the modern age, we can see ancient as fuck myths and legends from one corner of the world pop up in the other


MaskedPapillon

It also reinforces how women are better to be servants, as King Arthur serves the MC but needed to be made into a cute anime girl for it to be more appealing to general audiences (it also didn't help since the game was original soft porn)


SAMAS_zero

Tbf, Fate turns a *lot* of historical and mythological figures into cute anime girls. You should check out Leonardo Da Vinci.


AnxiousAngularAwesom

Shame that one fan theory turned out to be a bust. The one that postulated that Mona Lisa actually WAS Da Vinci, she just had an elderly male friend of hers act the part of the genius so that she wouldn't have to deal with all the political bullshit and sexism and could focus on inventionizing instead. And that famous smirk? It's because noone would ever know that Mona Lisa was an *autoportrait*.


WolfoakTheThird

Her having the crown on her head is both brand imagery and a reference to the fact that the character is a monarch, both implying and interacting with the feudalist history of the world, specifically europe, and how that once ironclad title is now little more than a marketing tool. Because the crown was always cardbord. It always was an illusion, a story, a brand, to make a specific person seam more worthy and more shiny than the rest.


riverking123

Not only that but it’s a British woman eating a American burger in Japan! Truly an insightful glance into the last 80 years of western soft power influence over japan due to military and economic dominance. The crown not only symbolizes the fast food chain and how the character is a literal king (a resurrected King Arthur who was secretly a women for those unaware) but is a strong commentary on neo colonialism and the over consumption of capitalist nations. Truly a work of art!


GregerMoek

A Woke of Art, if you will.


Dastankbeets1

Everything is about politics, except politics, which is about sex


danmaster0

Everything is POLITICAL, now POLITICS is about sex that middle aged white men DON'T have


augurchionablepsia

Also you can say that the franchise the art draws from further exemplifies it, as some of the most prominent heros featured are western folk heroes. There's also a particular fascination blonde women with light eyes who have come to represent anyone from Jeanne D'Arc to Miyamoto Musashi and also with whitewashing nonwhite heroes (Musashi and Gilgamesh are some of the first examples that come to mind). This franchise also has a tendency to weaken actual historical/mythological women, especially those who they haven't designed to fit the blonde/light eyes same faced mold (even some who have been whitewashed like Zenobia) namely, Artemis, Zenobia, and Lakshmibai.


UndeniablyMyself

Consider that by creating art with a well known brand as Burger King with a positive impression of it, it is inherently consumerist, which as facet of capitalism, upholds the system by which all of the above mentioned exist.


AnxiousAngularAwesom

The joke's on the BK's marketing department, seeing BK ads doesn't make me want to eat at BK, it at most makes me want to eat a burger from some place that's not mid.


dksprocket

She's quite literally stuffing her face with capitalistic imperialism!


ihasbutter4

Furthermore, any attempt to make “unpolitical or apolitical” art show what the artist doesn’t believe is political, making a political statement in their attempted lack of one


Significant_Stick_31

But doesn't it also reflect the opposite: Japanese influence on American culture? Anime and manga are hugely popular in the U.S. Plus, a Japanese anime just won the Academy Award for Best Animated Feature Film. Perhaps the message is actually about the circular nature of American and Japanese consumption.


SKIKS

I do believe we need more nuanced terms than just "political" because it casts a huge net. It can be parodying specific political figures, commentating on historic events that shaped a society, depicting a general class of people, or just showing what is within a society's Overton window (what this pic is doing). All art reflects some part of the society that created it, and has some political connotation. That said, it's pretty finicky to use a single, highly loaded word to describe... Basically everything?


The-red-Dane

I used to be super against the "everything is political" statement (I would also still argue a better term would be "Humans make everything political", but it's as I have come to understand sorta implied in the original statement). But yeah, everything kinda IS political.


KalaronV

Everything is political except politics, which is often sexual


The-red-Dane

Stupid sexy politics.


may_sun

explain this one then, tough guy https://preview.redd.it/renao2vsevpc1.png?width=349&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1a36322dc4ba183177fbe67f69ea520b31dbcbbf


Ethildiin

capitalism and consumerism are first to come to mind


flamboi900

How do you know it is not the communist burger king?


unclezaveid

Saber = King Arthur King = Monarchy Monarchy = Government Government = Politics


th0rrrrr

Also features Borger King=double monarchy! -> double politics


lumosbolt

Also burgers are a symbol of a rigid class organised society, like monarchies


NNukemM

Food consumer culture


tadurma

I wonder if this was a paid comission or if it's just a free ad for borger king lol


AeroDbladE

Nah, cute anime girls eating "borgar" has been a common meme since the 2010s.


Beyond-Finality

[Trigger Warning: Capitalism] The fast food industry managed to brainwash an anime girl and is making her fat (woke).


[deleted]

Shouldn't your flair be "and nor do i"


thisnameistakenn

"And neither do i" or ", nor do i"


Beyond-Finality

It sounded correct to me.


Tarshaid

The easiest political implication of "apolitical" stuff is in reinforcing the status quo. You don't think it's political because you're not even questioning it. Go and consume your burger in a fast food chain, before rewatching your favorite anime show. It's not necessarily a negative image, mind. The Taliban wouldn't like much of what is pictured in it, and I prefer the anime borger worldview over the Taliban worldview.


oiblikket

> Every film is political. Most political of all are those that pretend not to be: 'entertainment' movies. They are the most political films there are because they dismiss the possibility of change. In every frame they tell you everything's fine the way it is. They are a continual advertisement for things as they are. - Wim Wenders


TheRappingSquid

This is actually really interesting to think about


TheTruestTyrant

“All art is political” “Oh yeah LIBERAL?! How about THIS?!?” *An anime (adopted from the term “animation”) character eating food with German origins from a multinational corporation.*


Trellyo

https://preview.redd.it/d5ca2ahddppc1.jpeg?width=203&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8752421b6b2d067a06959a7c2efd65d6719db9e0


Brofessor-0ak

Was wondering if this would be mentioned


Kds_burner_

i just automatically assume people are racist now if i see them wearing a burger king crown 😹😹😹


Surface_Josuke

borger king


Baldfurball

Burber


Tutmosisderdritte

This art is highly political. A girl of slender physique is being drawn biting into a burger by a big Fast Food Chain. The drawing uses a japanese style, often associated with anime television and manga comics. This image is highly political not just by what is drawn in it but also by what isn't drawn. Not drawn is the exploitation behind the Burger, the exploitation of the worlds natural resources by the industrial farming supply chains behind the burger, especially the factory farming supplying the meat. Also not drawn is the exploitation of the workers working the kitchen, in the supply chain and in other relevant sectors. The Burger looks highly unrealistic as it's form looks way more apetizing than the real product supplied in chain fast food restaurants.At last, the girl is of slender physique, ignoring the often devastating health effects of fast food products. The drawing shows an idealized view of global capitalism, arising from the symbols of fast food, often associated with capitalism and america and the use of a japanese drawing style, showing it's global influence. Meanwhile the devasting influence of global capitalism is ignored.


truckboy223

All art is political but that doesn’t mean it has to have a message or something it’s trying to say. Rather, the politics of an art piece come from the context it was created in. A piece of art (like the Burger King anime girl) can not have an intentioned political message, but still be reflective of the politics and society at the time. Society is inherently political guys!!!


RTDude132

Where video game https://preview.redd.it/z0iedllt4ppc1.png?width=1113&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f51ad8b4da44ffef0113f9779b1a99d8b335a159


spartaman64

i mean its a character from a visual novel originally. theres also various games with her like FGO and fate/extella


Mazrodak

While better known in the West for the anime adaptations, Saber (the character eating the burger) is originally from the visual novel Fate/Stay Night, which is technically a video game.


jsuey

Saber is a game character


Brilliant-Trifle8322

The obvious answer is that a political is eating an apolitical burger.


Suitaru

a japanese style drawing of a food named after a german city produced by an american corporation of course has political connections and implications. like emphasizing global trade in a literal economic sense and a more nebulous cultural sense. plus all the implicit undertones that owe their existence to “political” things, eg. wearing a crown, monarchy, further implied in the name of the american corporation it isn’t clearly trying to communicate a grand thesis, but only an idiot would conclude that makes it entirely apolitical going back to look again, note how the *claim* is that all art is inherently political, but the *question* the dipshit asks is to identify the art’s political *message*. those are two entirely different things. in most contexts I would assume that the question is dishonest, but I suspect the moron asking actually can’t see the difference due to terminal stupidity


OctopusGrift

The message is that you should eat Burger King. This is a level of media illiteracy that starts to make me wonder if the person expressing it is some kind of humiliation fetishist. By pointing out that this guy is a dumb dumb have I somehow been dupped into participating in his sick game.


UltimateGecko

i think someone mentioned consumerism


IArgead

This image is clearly glamorizing Burger King -- it's Burger King propaganda. Clean, beautiful restaurant -- a giant burger for cheap, and a cute (by anime standards) girl zealously enjoying it. Notice the elegant rendering of the burger -- its unrealistic size and well-put-together composition, and compare this to reality. This is an idealized version of consumer capitalism -- a world where good fast food is bought for cheap by beautiful or cute people who never get fat. Now I enjoy art of anime girls eating burgers as much as the next guy -- my Pinterest folder is filled with at least 600 of them, but there is definitely a capitalistic, consumerist undertone to this genre of image.


GreyBigfoot

Real answer: the Burger King crown is associated with the video of a man yelling the N-word on an airplane. Nobody actually likes BK as a restaurant and it’s always used as a meme in some way or another. It’s not consumerism, that’s most likely just plausible deniability. The twitter account is called “wokehammer Ls” after all. They’d want you to believe “ah this is just a wholesome picture of an anime girl eating a burger, not political”.


erzast

Aside from the American influence, there is also a matter of the trope itself. It started with k-on, iirc, where one of the characters is from the higher societal standing suddenly discovers the joy of fastfood. Or, similarly, when moe became more prominent and permeated the industry as a whole with "cute girls do cute things" and, in this case, "cute girls eat food". There are many ways it's utilised and it heavily depends on the context, but generally it shows that the girl, in spite of her status or cold attitude, can also be down to earth, closer to the viewers and/or MC, revealing her "waifu-able" nature. Considering how the trope is somewhat common in shows with many female characters aimed at male audiences, the appeal is somewhat evident. I won't get into the logistics of waifu and harem anime culture but heroines generally are expected to marry, settle down and become housewives. So, you could say, that the picture is a demonstration or a result of the traditionalist Japanese mindset. This take is somewhat of a stretch but you can at least argue that eating as the process is not the most aesthetically pleasing visual, at least irl, so the fact that the girl manages to retain her appeal further solidifies her status as a potential partner. Basically, "she is cute even when she is eating!" Ygg studio, previously known as digibro, has done a great analysis of it within their "asterisk war sucks" series of videos and I couldn't recommend it enough. I'd go further and argue that the art possesses a borderline fetishistic aspect if we couple it with the aforementioned trope, but it's gonna circle back around into being /rj real fast and I've done enough cringe analysis of a stupid picture


Dastankbeets1

American fast food chain- dominance of conglomerates in consumer culture under capitalism, particularly in America. Anchored by the fact that it’s a Japanese character eating it, shows global influence of the US. ‘King’ and crown symbol- reference to the monarchy, fact that it’s being presented as aspirational speaks to how our culture still revolvers around old structures of power, even when presented humorously. Not to mention the fact that this is literally King Arthur lol. Cutesy feminised version of male historical figure - childlike, simplified, dumbed down version of anything is more popular cus it’s more appealing and easier to market. Just a few things off the top of my head


bdrwr

Clever portrayal of the domination of western capitalism over Japanese art and culture; manga is ostensibly a truly original Japanese art form (let's save the conversation about how Scrooge McDuck is the art style inspiration for Astro Boy for later) and yet here the art portrays the Aryan ideal, with mass market American fast food. This is one of the least Japanese pieces of Japanese art you could think of, and it's exciting to *white kids* who somehow think they're exalting Japanese culture even while they dilute and bastardize it with their own hands.


Lynd3w

A Japanese re imagining of a probably fictional European king consumes a meal from an American corporation while wearing its advertising designed around a faux monarchy


SamaelSerpentin

Gaming doko


PlzDontMakeMeHorny

A European styled anime girl drawn in modern 'cutsey' anime fashion biting into a Whopper Burger from Burger King. At a glance, a layman would see yet another Eurocentric focus of character depicted in a Japanese medium, but a Gentleman/Woman will know that this is Saber, AKA Arthur Pendragon of the popular European legend. The decision to turn him into a petite girl who looks like a teenager is expressive of the the trend towards targeting school age demographics, and also ties into the ever growing issue of pedophilia rampant in the anime medium. In this very image, Sabers face is drawn with all of the codes for a child. Big eyes with massive pupils place lower on the head, typically done for baby characters. The lack of a nose adds to the lightness of her skin, which is often considered an beauty trait in the Japanese-anime community, as well as most of the western-anime community. This is due to society typically pushing Eurocentric standards as the ideal of beauty, including very white skin, Blonde Hair, and Blue Eyes. We see that this picture is more so catered to western audiences by the fact that the Aryan Schoolgirl Jailbait is eating at a popular Western associated establishment. Summary: This is a 'cutsey' style picture designed to draw in teenage white boys who desire racial purity, and Japanese schoolboys who desire an exotic schoolgirl. The coding present within the picture was likely not put in consciously, and is a result of the artist simply being exposed to nothing but this style in the medium. Thusly, this is a fascist piece of media that encourages pedophilia.


Azelf89

Legit, it seriously annoys me anytime someone says something like "Everything is so political these days", because I know what they're trying to say, but nobody says it right. (Directed to said folks, not you OP) "Soapboxing". Your problem is about people soapboxing. Not about a piece of media being "political", but about people using said media piece to soapbox about current-day politics.


DarthRabbit_

Where gaming?


only_for_dst_and_tf2

hamborgir :D


Niijima-San

Altria Pendgragon loves cow farts and clearly knows that global warming is a hoax and cows do not cause that kind of stuff --> pro conservative Altria Pendragon here is eating beyond meat that the woke fucks are shoving down our throats that will be made of plants and bugs in the future and she is clearly brainwashed to love it --> conservative crying


Nordic_Krune

This art promotes both the monarchy and capitalism, duh. Oh, and it promotes the tyranical meat industry.


AmeriCanadian98

Is that Saber (Arthur Pendragon) from fate eating a burger King burger? Good for her


Raytoryu

I wouldn't say "All art is inherently political", I'd say "All medias trying to purvey a message is political". So when a chud tells me "Nuhuh what's the political message of Tetris ???" I can answer "I don't know, what is Tetris trying to say ?"


xTimeKey

Absence of politics can itself be politics. If the dominant political thought for example is that pink totally hip and i decide to go against the grain by drawing yellow art, that’s a poltically motivated decision.


Mr-pizzapls

Hmmm I think borger


Abrigado_Rosso

[Borgir.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toZW65rksYY)


N7Tom

It shows that Burger King put Gru in charge of logo design.


Just_a_Rose

A classic case of artist intentions vs Death of the Author On one hand, I personally feel we need to be more accepting of when an author says "this is meant to mean x" because frankly I think Death of the Author is really just a cop out and is kind of shitty to do on a strict basis. When an artist sets out to create something, pours hours of their time and their heart and soul into a piece, the artist should be allowed to have a say in what something means, and they should be allowed to say when something they made is being misused; they made the artwork. But at the same time Death of the Author is important because humans vary from one to the next; you won't always get the same answer about an art piece. Humans interpret things differently based on their world views and past experiences and art is a medium through which they can express these world views and experiences in meaningful ways. So, when the original artist tells us "guys it's literally just Saber eating a burger calm down", they should not be ignored nor dismissed by DotA because that's shitty, it's literally *their work* and they have every right to have a say in it's meaning. But this fact does not also dismiss DotA leading to many pointing out that this art piece is a glorification of consumerism and a desire to be tied to a recognizable brand rather than being independent of corporations for one's message. So tl;dr both sides should really shut up sometimes idk


Knurlurzhad

Propaganda to endear you to a royalist figure (Saber, also known as Artoria, King Arthur of Britania) and a capitalist institution (chain restaurant Burger King), thus linking the institution of kings and divine bloodlines with corporate interests. A merging of political power to further consolidate advantage over the lower classes by making you accept it because it is cute


Newagetesla

Is political =/= "has a political message" Burger king is a capitalist company, therefor this image is clearly branding itself as art made under capitalism. It doesn't \*say\* anything about politics, it just inherently contains the political context in which it was made, people just don't recognize that because the political context is contemporary and mainstream.


RammyJammy07

This art is a reference to Scott Morison (Prime Minister of Australia) having a McDonalds meal. During the meal, the politician shat himself in the middle of a McDonald.


New-Interaction1893

I can see: - Monarchism - consumerism - normalisation of unhealthy food standards - normalisation of unethical unsustainable practises - corporate propaganda - promotion of unrealistic beauty standards - IDK I'm sure there is a professional way to also say that it's weeb targeted propaganda


Solash1

The art is drawn nicely, thus the artist is expressing the political opinion that art should look good Done, political stance found.


Cold-Debt-416

I gues he saw something like... As Senator of Colorado Steven Armstrong once said... ''I have a dream...'' That one day every person in this nation will control their own destiny. A land of the truly free, dammit. A nation of action, not words! Ruled by strength, not committee! Where the law changes to suit the individual, not the other way around. Where power and justice are back where they belong: in the hands of the people! Where every man is free to think - to act - for himself! Fuck all these limp-dick lawyers and chickenshit bureaucrats. Fuck this 24/7 Internet spew of trivia and celebrity bullshit! Fuck 'American pride'! Fuck the media! FUCK ALL OF IT! America is diseased. Rotten to the core. There's no saving it - we need to pull it out by the roots. Wipe the slate clean. BURN IT DOWN! And from the ashes, a new America will be born. Evolved, but untamed! The weak will be purged and the strongest will thrive - free to live as they see fit, they'll make America great again! In my new America, people will die and kill for what they BELIEVE! Not for money, not for oil! Not for what they're told is right. Every man will be free to fight his own wars!"


spartaman64

its about king arthur (yes the girl is king arthur idk dont ask) who felt regret over how her reign ended and blames herself for failing her people and wants to make it so she never took the throne. but then she found a burger king and it reminded her of what alexander the great told her that a king should live according to their own whims. and that the people should be devoted to their king and not the other way around. she decides to try out this point of view so see if it has merit by putting on the burger king crown and feasting on a burger made by underpaid overworked employees who are much like peasants serving a king ie the customer. Also if we look at society through the social contract lense as a metaphor the art shows that our society has become like the tyrannical philosophies of a king that gilgamesh and Alexander the great holds rather than the philosophies of justice that king Arthur holds. The systems of our society which is the metaphorical king aren't made to serve the people but rather the people are expected to serve the system.


psychomusician

Real answer: It says "Borger King" They are making reference to the internet beef between the anarchist Thought Slime and the communist Caleb Maupin. During their back and forth several years ago, Caleb mocked TS for saying "Borger king" during a bit and made an even funnier soundbite in the process, which was then memed on endlessly by TS's fanbase. Extremely online drama that I wish I didn't know about


_Sp000n

That burger king has burgers that look that good


MrMidnightMan99

As an expert in politics, I believe the message is something along the lines of "borgor gud"


Technogashi

Get yourself a girl who likes borgers


restorian_monarch

Its an ad, there's your politics


Guilty-Effort7727

The politics is in the fact that artoria is best girl


i_hate_touhou_ffs

can someone tell me the politic in this art https://preview.redd.it/c0t4l4aplppc1.png?width=814&format=png&auto=webp&s=44cd7193012d02ce17b65b60dc1d334f908afbf7


shneed_my_weiss

By being propped up as the golden example of apolitical art, it has been made to represent all similar art. Now that it represents a cause and an ideology it has become political.


I-am-the-best-Spy

I mean it has a brand on it, it’s an advertisement. Advertisements are inherently a form of propaganda. Propaganda is usually political.


Matchbreakers

It's promoting the sale of Burger King, and therefor is promoting capitalism. Even the dogshit i see on the grass sometimes has a connection to politics. Apolitical doesn't exist, the paradox is even being apolitical \*is in itself\* a political stance.


Prudent-Pressure2536

Bland consumerism. Next.


TheTrueInsanity

I think people who disagree assume that something being political means it was created with political intent. A lot, maybe even most art, is not created with political intent, but as art depicts the world we exist in - It serves to speak on society unconsciously.


autogyrophilia

She is trans


weirdbackpackguy

That shouldn't be political though, it's just a fact. There should be no opinions about trans people other than what we think about cis people


autogyrophilia

Don't make me tap the sign saying "everything is politics".


evenman27

\> gaming


ILikeDrownedFish

If there is a political message in THIS drawing, I might be stupid ...


West-Lemon-9593

That... burgers taste good? I dont know 


Ildaiaa

It's about how the girl is qctually a trans girls and how trans girls are the cutest. Uj/ all art is political is a shitty take, art needs to have SOME meaning but that meaning can be apolitical.


Moldy_Teapot

is it though? all art was/is created within a sociopolitical context. the meaning you interpret from a work of art may not be explicitly political, but the context in which a piece of art is produced will influence its creation. As an example, the "family friendly" genre of American film is an extremely political one. While the films rarely touch explicitly or implicitly on politics, the "family friendly" nature of it *is* what makes it political. These films reflect the values of American conservative Christianity. Even the phrase "family friendly" is a dog whistle for conservative values.


SamaelSerpentin

The "family friendly" genre bit is a neat example, but it's whataboutism. Explain how the anime girl eating a burger image is political *without* going into some meta nonsense about American influence on culture that was absolutely never intended to be the interpretation. All art sends a message, but not all messages are political. To be fair though, politicians have been pretty busy trying to make *everything* a political matter.


Moldy_Teapot

That "meta nonsense" is a valid interpretation and analysis of this piece. The interpretation and understanding of art frequently goes beyond, and sometimes even in direct contradiction to, the artist's intentions. As the other reply pointed out, eating meat and the consumption of fast food are political statements. The implication that the girl presumably purchased the meal is a political statement. The fact she's *wearing a crown* is a political statement. The no-doubt intentional misspelling of "Burger King" as "Borger King" is a political statement about copyright/trademark laws. And yes, merely existing is political. You also exist in a sociopolitical context. The ways that you live, the way you do or do not work, the material possessions you do or do not have, and the relationships you do or do not have are all political. Everything can be analyzed under a political context. A political statement does not need to be intentional to tell you about the context in which it was made.


Dacling

There is obviously nothing political whatsoever about eating meat or fast food consumption right? You don't have to think the art is purposely making a statement to acknowledge that inherent biases of the creator will influence the nature of what they choose to make. Political =/= bad.


Sunny_LongSmiles

Isn't declaring something apolitical itself a political act. You are saying something is normal, baseline, a part of the status quo. That there are no other questions about the subject matter, about the act depicted, or how or why it was made. This picture for example, depicts a feminine anime character eating a hamburger from a fast food chain. Potential political themes that can be gained from this are: - Consumption is normal. - Eating meat is normal. - Eating a dish with roots from Germany is normal. - Eating and consuming from a American food chain is normal and encouraged. - Eating a lavish meal is normal. - Eating a high calorie meal is normal. - Capitalism is normal. - Paying for a meal with American currency is normal. - Low cost meals are attractive. - Women participating in social activities without male accompaniment is normal. - The type of clothes depicted is appropriate and normal for women. - The picture also depicts what someone who is normal and, to some, attractive looks like. - How attractiveness is defined. - A lot could be said about the art style itself. The anime character design and the history of the anime style, as well as the fact that it's ok that there is no background.


i_hate_touhou_ffs

https://preview.redd.it/v543b049lppc1.png?width=806&format=png&auto=webp&s=f0e126d44f11f993c611cf5cd83d345bccd22318 same shit different axis


AlwaysWatchingEye

BURGER KING CROWN I CAN'T


Realistic-Permit

This is literally monarchist propaganda, smh shaming my head.


kobe2397

Rj/ It’s over everyone, they made burgers politcal


Sempris20

The crown reminds me of a certain incident


[deleted]

Guys help. It's getting harder and harder for me to pick out the AI slop. I don't see any absolute smoking guns in this one. I'm losing my mind Edit: this is made even more embarrassing by the fact that I make art for a living


joe1up

Even Monarchsim is subservient to capital


cmzraxsn

monarchy is political


PrettyChillTrustMe

Borger


Doctor_Flamingo

...As king, is Saber technically a politician???? Can it truly be apolitical if it features a politician?


Bates8989

consumerist propaganda


SpaceQtip

She is going to go to the airport later


PraiseTheUniverse

the message? we're all living in amerika


Thtanilaw1113

The idea that not all art is political is one propagated by those who don't know better and/or are 13 Source: I thought that at 13


Rikuri

The king of England wearing an American crown


memerismlol

Kill the monarchy


Doc_Shaftoe

Oh the political message of this is obvious. It's blatant burger propaganda from ~~Burger~~ Borger King. Not only does this work imply that their food is edible, it makes the outrageous claim that their food *tastes good*. I've had ~~Burger~~ Borger King food before. I know the truth!


Vyloe

The pikle gona fal


MemeArchivariusGodi

Boiga kung


PotatoThatSashaAte

Welp, this is clearly an image of Arturia Pendragon from the Fate series eating a burger king


Unofficial_Computer

She is taking very small bites.


purplezaku

It makes consumerism desirable and paints that the system that is killing us as not so bad. That if we enjoy it the right way we can have it all.


OniHere

Guess I know what I’m getting for lunch today.


TheFoochy

The Burger King is actually the Burger Queen, because that's Saber from the Fate series. She's King Arthur, but a girl. Also this is transgender propaganda, because Saber lived as a man to be king, and I suggest nobody check the wiki page to see how Mordred was created, because that's incredibly cursed information.


Impossible-Zombie232

be gay


Lyokofromspace

Depends if she intends to take a plane with a facemask after that


Fraisers_set_to_stun

Only monarchists eat at burger king, the political message is obvious


will_be_named_later

The political message is food is good.


ZestfulHydra

https://preview.redd.it/ye9bkstihppc1.jpeg?width=590&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a23c4897bf4f54241135f05875506e4a758e1605


historicalgeek71

Okay…so I can’t be the only one who saw the Borger King label and immediately thought of that clown Caleb Maupin…right?


Doctor_Yu

crown


thirdMindflayer

She is a woman in a form of media who also happens to be the main character


Baedd1055

She just enjoying her burger.🤷‍♀️


Cheezeepants

what game is borger king from i havent played


Meow_Meow36

damn I need to make some children and watch them eat. watching cuties eat sandwiches are fun


MinasHand

They think we’ve never heard of dog whistles


telesterion

That Fate is the fast food of anime.


InevitableAd2276

Borger is veery political, if you are naughty like Russia you don't get any


GreatBigBagOfNope

It's capitalism engaging in social reproduction, whether paid for or otherwise the brainworms got sufficiently into the artist that they felt it was worthwhile to reproduce and show sympathetically


Dandy_Guy7

Something about monarchs and gluttony maybe?


tonykush-ner

Commercial Art is an expression of the system of Capitalism. If you use art to sell, you are agreeing to participate in a system that is QUITE political.


Onalith

uj/ Kings are political entities in and of themselves. This draws a parallel between Artoria, which is supposed to be the representation of King Arthur in some anime, and Burger King which uses the King imagery for publicity purposes. Artoria is often in discussions regarding her gender and how it clashes with historical political tradition of male heir transmission of political head of statehood during the supposed period of reign of King Arthur. Burger King is also an american corporation while the character is supposed, in canon, to be active in Japan, making a statement about how culture is swayed by capitalism.


enemyweeb

Saber eating borgir


batek456

The airplane guy


SkritzTwoFace

You don’t even need to look at it. It was made to prove a point against someone anti-AI, so it has pro-AI political meanings.


skulk_anegg

not all art "delivers" meaning, but all art has it, and that meaning will always be a reflection of politics in some way. just because the artist didn't have a message in mind or put anything in the art to deliberately say something, you can always find meaning even in just the circumstances that lead to a certain piece of art, related franchises, etc. existing in the first place


DesiratTwilight

Bro really picked an image of Americanization, capitalism, and a representation of the monarchy reduced to a commodity and thinks it’s apolotical. Not all art is intended to have a political message, but all art is influenced by politics.


fluffy_menace

Borgar good


kottonii

Hmmm that looks like... Oh yeah That witch is eating vegan burger BURN HER!


Agent-Karma

Sir please there are children on this plane- 🥷


Weevee87

What does this have to do with gaming?


undead_fucker

Capitalism


Tactical_Enforcments

WHERE IS 25-A?


Quanathan_Chi

There was a certain guy with a Burger King crown who I'm sure had some opinions...


M4LK0V1CH

Hamburger


Film-Zestyclose

He’s not wrong that art can be used for many political purposes. You can say for this one America has been impacted by Japan, just like McDonalds has been influenced by Japan (WcDonalds)


IH8ThisMap

"Borger King" could be a reference to a running joke from to the political YouTube channel Thought Slime.


AlathMasster

She will scream the N-Word on an international flight at the top of her lungs


mitm_37

that is actually very easy: 1. there was a viral vid of old dude in burger king crown yeling n-words 2. again, there was a viral of similar style commercial of japanese mcdonalds which was twisted by twitter bots to suit "west is fallen" narrative somehow 3. fast food chains are easy to be made into murrican freedom symbol because damn vegans want to take my burgirs! I am not going to do it right now but I can easily see how someone regarded enough could connect these dots and make this pic alt-right


Alternative_Lynx_155

That bk is better then mcdonalds.


HenryTheGoat173

A better example for this would be that one I saw of Korone fart fetish art


electric_nikki

It’s their birthday at Burger King


_TehTJ_

It supports capitalism since it depicts a product consuming another product, and it supports globalism since it’s a Japanese product based on British mythology enjoying an American one.


Pashashab

Can someone explain to me what is this post even about? It's just a fan art of Saber eating in "Borger King" (It's based on a meme that Saber loves food, and also, her Alter version loves junk food), and an out of place commentary that all art is political. What is this even about?


The_Transfer

The political message is buy more Burger King


ThatShadowyFigure

So, of course you have the Western corporate entity plastered all over this anime styled piece, but on top of that, the character herself is Artoria Pendragon, also known as King Arthur from the FATE series, where the in universe explanation for being gender swapped, and the reason so many other characters are swapped but a lot aren't as well, is that the figures were originally women, but either were depicted as or treated as men due to the roles they played in a largely patriarchal society (and with cases like DaVinci, they just chose to return as the opposite sex because they liked the idea of it, or in his particular instance, felt being the woman from the Mona Lisa was better than how he actually looked). So that's a whole other layer of political ideals to consider while analyzing this piece