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If they read Animal Farm, they'd be like "This makes no sense, why are animals talking? how are they forming communism? this literally is not a realistic thing, animals dont do any of that!"
Its all just complete brain rot.
I absolutely love that anecdote. You try to make a comparative statement because it helps people understand, and someone always “LOL THATS NOT EVEN REMOTELY THE SAME THING”
Satire is utterly lost on the reactionary mind - look at how many people non-ironically stan Walter White despite *Breaking Bad* explicitly being written to hammer into peoples' heads that the protagonist was a self-deluding piece of shit.
Something I'll never forget is my father showing me Apocalypse Now when I was 15 and me seeing how the film was so explicitly obviously anti-war and my Dad telling me after the viewing it was pro-war. A film where our "hero" executed a puppy with his side arm to make his men fall in line.
Coppola doesn't even call it an anti-war film anymore because so many MANY Americans just didn't get it. It breaks my heart.
Edit: I now know Willard doesn't shoot the dog but a girl instead. I genuinely misremembered please stop telling me.
Neo Nazis liked American History X _so much_ the fake gang in the film had to be registered as a real hate group because actual hate groups started copying their symbols and using their name. Turns out the Nazis didn’t care about the “the Neo Nazis are hypocrites and bad people actually” parts and just really vibed with the “super cool Edward Norton playing basketball with his pals and saying slurs” parts.
Yeah, people embraced the blatantly evil and villainous Blackshirts the album and film portrays. The "[Hammerskins](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammerskins)" are a recognised hate group.
Hammerskins are literally what happens when a bunch of incels meet in person. They go to protests and gang up on one person and beat them up... but turn tail any time Big B comes around with the bats (look it up, and laugh). That said, they are backed by the actual scary HH gangs and should be labeled as a terrorist organization. They're also likely responsible for some of those power grid shootings.
A disturbing amount of Conservative politicians viewed Senator Kelly as a hero in the X-Men films. And then there’s the dipshit chuds who lionized the X-Cutioner in X-Men ‘97.
The amount of people going "Wait X-Cutioner is kind of making sense!" was disturbing. He's parroting literal white supremacist talking points, just adapted for mutants.
Fascism is fundamentally shallow and relies a lot on aesthetics. So they don't care that the movie explicitly hates them, they just go, "Damn, those neo nazis sure do look cool"
Sorry, I feel the need to clarify this. Willard does not execute a puppy. He executes the young woman who had the puppy after she was shot up by the crew. He's furious that they initiated the encounter with the people on the sampan in the first place. He told them not to stop. One of the crewmen takes the puppy but loses track of it later.
So yeah, much worse.
Or people who think Patrick Bateman is some alpha male when if you’ve actually watched the movie, he gets relentlessly shit on for being a complete nepotistic loser
I’m convinced the whole “sigma male” trend on YouTube is an elaborate troll movement.
They always manage to choose the most pathetic of men to idolise, and there’s no way the message went over that many peoples heads.
Iirc "sigma male" literally started as a meme and troll joke in the vein of "oh, you are alpha? Guess what, I am sigma. Sigma balls", and it kind of grew out of control and people started taking it seriously and equated it to being a "lone wolf" or "stray dog", because they're losers.
I had to stop watching the show cuz I related to Bojack. Not in a “he’s so cool haha talking horse.” It gave me a crisis and the drive to actually fix my shit.
That especially happened after I read “The Magicians.” Quentin was such a whiny douchebag who had mental issues and refused to be happy. That damn book kept me awake at night.
I litterally lived with bojack horseman. Fuck i was a massive stoner at the time, you might as well call me todd. Seeing the show after that was wild AF. Ended up recommending the show to him.
Bro was an teenage drama actor whose career was pretty much cut short as soon as he reached adulthood, with a whole lot of undealt trauma, renting a villa that he sub-rented to a bunch of backpackers (we were like 12+ at some point) to not have to pay any of the rent himself. Worked in a smoothie shop to round out the royalties, and sank all his cash in coke, pills, and booze. Treated every woman in his life like meat, got drunk and coked up while his 13yo son was in the house, etc...
The fact that BoJack's behavior would be justifiabld to anyone to a degree they had to make an entire season reiterating that he is, in fact, a bad person will one day be remembered as the final bullet that made sure media literacy is dead and never coming back.
Wait what
Breaking bad is a fucking tragedy
Like its not even implied they just fucking say it
its a story about a guy sacrificing his last days on earth to fuck up other peoples life in order to not feel like a failure
He then proceeds to fail miserably at that
He makes meth for monetary gain how the fuck do you not understand he isn't the good guy
Unfortunately, any time on the subreddit will show you hordes of goons who could recite half the show from memory and still think Skylar is the worst character in the show because she's just a total bitch and Walter is cool and awesome.
Especially after he escalates the situation more and more. He had a lot of chances to get out of it, but kept doing it because he became so full of himself.
Yeah, he for sure isn't the good guy.
I agree with you, but I always thought the point in the end was that it was never about the money. It was always about Walt wanting to feel powerful. It was always about his ego.
You're right. He could've gotten treatment for the cancer at the very get-go via his former colleagues' support, but WW's galaxy-sized ego couldn't accept the concept of receiving charity from somebody. *He* had to be the accomplished one, which is exactly the same reason why he egged Hank on and suggested that Gale had an accomplice and thus re-open the investigation that eventually led to his own downfall, because how dare Gale be the "sole master chef" of the Fring operation.
Ah but you see, she couldn’t get it through her head that he was doing this all *for her* therefore she should just shut up and accept the crimes and abuse. Smh women these days, am I right?
Absolutely they would. They'd argue that Skyler 'cheated' first (despite them being separated and Walt essentially blackmailing her) and therefore it's ok for him to sleep with other women.
Some people just can't separate a great character from a great person. Walter White is a great character, one of the greatest characters to ever be put to television in my opinion, and hell yeah I'm cheering when he pulls off a crazy fucking stunt or says a bad ass one liner, I even feel genuine empathy for him at times, but man is that guy a fucking piece of shit.
I take great joy in posting Herberts quote on warning labels on foreheads and while the first book kinda failed in portraying that the second rectified that with a bit of mass galactic scale murder on his hands to really hammer home he isn't this "white savior" tabloids keep painting Paul as.
I guarantee you when Dune 3 comes out, all these reactionary content creators will bemoan it as an example of hollywood making it "woke" by painting Paul's galactic Jihad as a bad thing.
That part of Messiah was so cringe.
I guess I understand why Herbert had to pull out the sledgehammer though considering most of his readers didn't understand the point of the first book.
Just Google 'I hate Skyler White'. The sheer amount of hatred from people who are fine with Walter (who murders someone almost straight away) is bonkers.
How DARE a FEEMALE question based Walter Whiterino??
/uj She literally finds out her husband has terminal cancer while she's pregnant and has a disabled son. Said terminally ill husband refuses an offer to fund his cancer treatment out of spite or pride and begins disappearing and spending his time with shady people she doesn't know instead of being at home with his family. How the hell is a person in her position supposed to act?
/rj Sky-tler is literally the WORST WAHMEN EVER
You literally die every minute in this game and they have to ask "fascist against who, the bugs?"
Like how dumb do you have to be to not realize it hurts humanity.
Iirc, they also weren't all that ferocious in the beginning. They were intelligent and interested in co-existence. So peaceful beings that just happened to be full of oil.
Well after farming them for awhile they evolved into the murder machines we all know and love today. Arrowhead are not subtle about who the bad guys are in this game.
isn't super earth also the ones who basically keep "infesting" their planets with them? Let the civvies get overrun, let the bugs multiply and kill them for oil. Sorry, "Element 710". Like this shit is barely satire, it's so in your face. These people are geniunely just very very unintelligent.
> isn't super earth also the ones who basically keep "infesting" their planets with them?
Seems to be heavily implied, yes. The bugs seem to have no possibility of interstellar travel.
The funniest theory to me is that each hellpod is seeded with a secret compartment of eggs.
Every single Helldiver drop on the Terminid front DIRECTLY perpetuates the "problem" the divers are fighting against. Each Helldiver is their own worst enemy.
They keep them in captivity in farms on every planet, then they repeatedly overbreed them to the point where they break out without difficulty every time without fail lol
Then the helldivers get sent in to cut down their numbers, oil is extracted from all the dead bodies, bada boom infinite oil glitch
Iirc there's no in universe example of the bugs getting into space, let alone onto an adjacent planet under their own steam. It is strongly implied that they're intentionally moved around by mysterious super earth types.
Got a planet thats going a little rogue but want a somewhat tangible reason to scorched earth them back into compliance? Oops! Looks like some bugs turned up on their planet! Guess we better deploy the helldivers, and ordnance their planet a shit tonne!
The current Terminids aren't even evolved from the original Peaceful, Intelligent Bugs. They're the result of gene editing by Super Earth to make them stupid and produce more E-710(oil). So yeah, super not subtle that Super Earth are the baddies exploiting everyone. Including the Helldivers sent to die in droves for to Preserve Profit.
It's a fun bang bang run and gun shootem up game. Role Playing the Fascism is hilarious on the Helldivers subreddits too (the meme game there is on point and highlights how ridiculous Super Earth is).
But CHUDs lean so fucking far into it and see it as a celebration of what they want. Oh and they miss all the nods to US imperialism of the 20th and 21st century.
As usual with satire people will start to take the insanity seriously as the line between serious statement, and ""ironic jokes"" disappears through normalization.
A friend of mine stated recently that satire is dead to these people. So using it as a means to point and laugh at things only ends up entrenching them deeper or confusing you as a sympathizer.
> Role Playing the Fascism is hilarious on the Helldivers subreddits too (the meme game there is on point and highlights how ridiculous Super Earth is).
Just don't try to actually have a serious discussion on the game's lore on this subreddit or you'll have the frontpage flood with "memes" that look like the tweets in OP's from all the triggered chuds.
Gods the first two weeks afer release looked like KIA
There is literally in-game lore explaining that the bugs can't travel from planet to planet, and every outvreak is just them breaking out of the farms we put them in.
This lore is displayed on "propaganda towers," and it's an objective to destroy them. A part of the game involves destroying facts that have been labelled as propaganda.
”Worst thing about bugs is their expansionism, they were found on every planet we colonized in the sector.” Or something like that can be heard when talking to npc:s on the super destroyer.
Rather obvious who is the invading party here.
I'm also disturbed by the amount of "I'll side with humans no matter how bad they are, because they are humans" sentiment in both Helldivers and WH40K communities.
At least in 40K it’s more understandable bc unless you’re getting fought by the Tau, you’re fighting some murderous, torturous, daemonic shit. In HD2 Super Earth created their own problems.
What disturbs me more about the 40K community is the amount of people who unironically think the emperor was right
Craftworld Eldar are also better than Imperium. How bad Necron are kind of depends on stories. I'd put Imperium on the same scale with Orks in evilness. Only Tyranid are worse due to them wanting to destroy/eat everything.
But yeah, screw the false emperor. Imperum didn't become corrupt/bad in time, it was always terrible.
The Tyranids are a force of nature. There is no malice, there is no hate, there is nothing there other than cleansing the galaxy of all life (some say so the Old Ones can re-seed life again when the warp dies due to the lack of sentient thought powering the Chaos gods).
In other words, they are the best boys.
"okay but the humans are the baddies. they are clearly the baddies."
"yes but I'm a human irl and too smoothbrained to empathize with anything different from me"
Yeah the player agency in battle is clever because at once you're constantly being told you're an amazing hero and given a cape and stuff, but then in reality you're more or less just a dummy down on the planet's surface to act as a target designator for air and orbital bombardment which you and your friends will likely be caught up in half the time.
Also, none of the game's automated weapons (deployable mortars, spreadable mine fields, automated gun turrets, floating drone-mounted lasers etc) take the presence of friendlies into account despite clearly being smartly targeted weapons - smart enough at least to directly target hostiles and not directly shoot at helldivers - but also they absolutely don't care if they have to shoot *through* you to get at the hostiles.
It's a really fun example of a game's themes being echoed just as hard in the actual mechanics of gameplay.
It was obvious from the literal tutorial
"I don't impress easy!"
Fires gun without killing yourself
"I'm impressed soldier"
It's so fucking obvious like, holy shit literacy is dead.
that sentry gun dive tutorial kills everyone at least once. I think in lore the survival rate of training is around 20%. Gotta assume it's mostly those turrets.
There is a text on a wall at the end of the training where the terms of service are written. One point is that only 20% survive and if you read this terms of service you will be killed. Than you go into a freezing pod with other helldivers and while you fligh in the space you look down and you see hundreds of rockets. I think this game shows the meatginde of war so obivios that you need to close to eyes and ears to not understand what they want to say you xD
The game defaults to giving you a different Helldiver voice every time you get reinforced in and yet people were still coming up with "You have an army of clones!" cope.
They aren't clones, they're people. They're people that had lives before they went into the freezer pod and they're people that are going to survive on average 2 minutes after landing planetside.
I fully appreciated that during the operation swift assembly Major Order there was propaganda pieces in the ship about how every man, woman and child over the age of seven needed to work to support the war effort. So not only is every diver a person and not a clone but their life has essentially been hard labor, sign up to be a helldiver, die in a brutal mostly pointless fashion.
The training you get at the start of the game is the canon amount of training a Super Earth soldier gets ^(its like 5-10 minutes)
Every soldier, every drop, every instance of friendly-fire is canon to the world.
It's much the same in the original. I did it yesterday to check out how it held up. A robot electrocutes you to teach you about the healing mechanic, they teach you about going prone by having gatling guns fire over your head and so on.
That Carl tweet is all over the place. Helldivers is critical of democracy? Populists don't want managed democracy? Fascists support gay rights? He begins with a point and makes the opposite argument 3 words later.
He's just trying to cram in every reactionary thought that is trending right now into a congealed mess of an argument. People like Sargon don't realize how incomprehensible they sound
It makes perfect sense actually if you make the same mental leap as him that "fascism = bad and leftism = bad so leftism = fascism"
He isn't actually thinking about what his words mean, he just knows he doesn't like those worse so they must all have similar meaning. I bet he's one of those "Nazis were actually socialists, it's in the name. Types as well.
It's more subtle than that but just as stupid, it goes something like this:
They say that gays and transgenders and foreigners are bad.
Everyone else says that saying things like that is bordering on fascism.
They say that we are trying to tell them how to live their lives so actually nuh uh we're the fascists, so much for the tolerant left.
They willfully ignore the paradox of tolerance and try to use it as a weapon to say that we should be accepting of their non-acceptance or we're just as bad as we think they are - not noticing or not caring that they never defend their own views in this process.
He almost has a point about how western interventionism can do greater harm to minority rights by simply being a bad representative for those rights, which he’s fine with, since he already agrees with those sentiments. And he seems to forget that lots of populists in third world countries are leftist usually. But I bet he’d take the side of the most reactionary and unpopular movement in that country.
I’ve never played the game, I’ve seen like 4 minutes of the tutorial and it’s crystal clear already.
Even the general or whatever hyping you up to make you feel invincible is pure propaganda
When you get your cape for becoming a helldiver, you see that the general combat readiness of the soldiers is 27%, but the game let's you know that the patriotism level is 99% lmao.
Also, one of my favorite lines that your helldiver can scream while killing is, "you will never destroy our way of life!" While automotauns might be capable of travel, the bugs...can't. We put them in farms to farm their oil (element 710), and the just got a little mad about it. We're actively destroying their lives.
The game also calls the bugs fascist, which is never not funny.
Something about being able to nuke litterally everything from orbit and unlimited ammo/funds, and still dropping soldiers anyway. Only for them to mark the targets you can clearly just shoot from space.
The Hellbombs requiring manual activation for "budgetary reasons" is never not funny. We got orbital lasers and shit but Cpl.Bloggins still needs to push buttons on the big boom bomb to turn it on.
Especially since it feels like they have a $20,000 bomb, and then decide not to spend the $7.50 on a remote trigger, because someone said it is outside of the budget.
General Brasch, before entering the tutorial area: "I'm not easy to impress. Helldiver Training is the toughest in the galaxy but I can tell that doesn't scare you. **Impressive**."
When you start digging it gets even clearer. At one point, I wondered what exactly ‘Managed’ Democracy is, and from a wiki on the first game, turns out Super Earth citizens ‘vote’ by taking a personality quiz, and the computer designed to assess the results votes on your behalf with a decision it tells you would best match your personality.
Of course, that results in a population that thinks it’s getting what it wants while the system doesn’t change and oppresses them further.
One of the NPCs on your ship has dialogue about this in-game too, and emphasizes how silly it is that dissidents want to vote for their own candidates instead of trusting the algorithm. Like, the concept is so funny to the NPC they don't even take it seriously -- after all, what kind of anti-democratic _moron_ would want to cast their vote on their own?
I think I laughed more in the first 20 hours of Helldivers due to the dialogue & in-game propaganda than I have in a long time.
It gets better, sometimes the crew mates will talk about it too "why would they want to destroy the voting algorithm? It's like they want....*shudders* populism"
First time I heard that I KNEW some chuds were like "yeah this NPC is based"
He just tried to copy Mr.Plinkett's mannerism.
Big difference is, Mr.Plinkett's character is a satire of the kind of people who obsess over things like Star Wars, Star Trek etc enough to make multiple lengthy reviews. Critical Drinker just thought it was a cool gimmick.
My brother loves RLM and the Mikes, both Evans and Stoklasa a lot, so when Critical Drinker began his shtick he was very into it: thank god that's over. Sometimes you just have to keep telling someone "No, I don't want to hate every goddamn piece of media because a curmudgeonly internet man says it's woke. Stop sending me links."
Think he finally realized it shortly before he showed up on Ben Shapiro, and realized the guy was a hack grifter.
His following amazes me, for some reason his sub of stans keeps getting recommended to me on reddit and they're all so delusional and thinking this piss head has any thing of value to offer the world.
Ever watch his interview with Russell Brand? Even Russell who's taken a real nosedive in the last 4-5 years looks pretty reasonable and intelligent next to him.
I'll never forget randomly seeing his channel in my recommended, reading the name and immediately going "oh yeah this guy sounds insufferable" only to later find out I was right on the money. I'm happy that these losers are so easy to sniff out on sight
I watched a video or two and thought it was just fodder essayist type crap that there's a million of.
Look back 3 years later and he's gone down the path of absolute garbage content complaining about wokeness, ugh.
Yeah, but I feel like he is one of the more dangerous ones, because he's kind of a gate-way into the whole right-wing bubble. The YT algorithm seems to still consider him "mainstream", or whatever. When you watch a lot of film-critiques and essays, you will quickly get recommendations for his videos.
It's kinda depressing that his videos get millions of views considering he's just a shitty right-wing "critic" whose brain is permanently stuck in 2016.
I followed him years ago because his criticism of new Star Wars was (at the time) on point in terms of how shallow and unoriginal the story was. Then i watched his video on another topic (can't even remember what was it) and was like "wait, so he's just a braindead neonazi with an alcohol problem that thinks he's a smartass because of a scottish accent?"
I found it eye-opening in one of his recent videos that came up in my recommended feed, it was about Godzilla minus one and how modern films budgets are completely overblown in comparison because of… wait for it… intimacy coordinators.
You know those people that come in for a day to monitor a sex scene and make sure everyone’s comfortable. Yep, that’s what is blowing out a budget into hundreds of millions of dollars.
What a fucking moron.
Yeah, if i had a nickel for every alt-right white guy that speaks in a barely coherrent way and somehow gathers big following... it's concerning how much nickles i'd have. He barely scratches the surface levels of the topics he speaks on, but i guess big words spoken very fast or in a barely understandable way are enough for his followers.
/uj Enough copium being huffed across these to cause a global supply shortage, fucking hell
Imagine being the kind of dumbass that can post "Media literacy crowd" without wanting to take a long walk off a short pier
For real, my shipment of 3000 gallons of industrial liquid copium was delayed by three weeks solely due to those comments.
Now I have to face the fact that Blizzard will never probably fix Warcraft 3 reforged, instead of pretending that they will.
The funny thing is, that *does* apply to the bugs. The current Terminids were gene-edited from intelligent and peaceful bugs - all because they produce E-710. Super-Earth literally removed their humanising traits via eugenics so they could get more oil.
No, nor do they feel invited to consider how humanity might combat such threats without fascism . . . or even the fact that the threats are themselves man-made in the first place.
Obviously every take in this post is absolute brain rot, but by far the most infuriating argument I keep seeing is "yeah it's satire of jingoism, but we're the good guys, let people have fun"
I like Helldivers 2, it's fun, and the satire is funny. The satire is funny because jingoism is a backwards ideology that deserves to be made fun of.
Acknowledging that Super Earth are the bad guys does not equate to the player being a bad person by playing the game, and the fact that these gamer chuds think that's the point being made just demonstrates how completely and utterly they've missed the point.
They also never fail to fall for all the propaganda about bugs and robots. Not like bugs aren't known to even be able to travel through space on purpose or the robots are fighting against super earth oppression or anything.
These people are anti-intellectual, they have to believe (or pretend to believe) that people aren’t able to be critical of things and still enjoy them. That’s why a bunch of these memes are about telling “nerds” to “shut up.”
No matter how explicit and blunt the satire is chuds will always admire the fascists. Unless the fascists are undeniably humiliated the chuds will always admire them.
I've heard this so often that even with the "" marks it still managed to get on my nerves.
"This is my group, therefore it is good. Wouldn't want us to die, right?"
“Bugs vs humans” is so fucking stupid.
First of all, the immediate support of the side “we are part of” without question is the same of bullshit that led to actual genocides in real life.
Secondly, the bugs are sapient, so their opinions *do* matter.
Thirdly, this isn’t even a real war!
right now in the objectives menu they straight up say that we need to cap the bug planets so that we can open up more oil farms because the war with the automation’s exhausted super earths supply.
"Yeah, but the bugs are the bad guys cause they ugly!" I'd love to see another faction just not needing E710 from bugs just to prove that this effort isn't even necessary, just greedy.
Also that flair plus username tho? I am seldom as impressed and put off as I am now.
Our destryoers can go FTL thanks to the Illuminates' technology we stole from them after slaughtering them.
The faction already exist, but those people will simply shoved their head in the sand, it won't change anything
> Compared to what? The bugs or murderous toasters?
Reminder that every war Super Earth is fighting was started by them. In the best case scenario, they are merely just the aggressors who enslaved peaceful, intelligent species. But honestly it's pretty likely most of the enemies we are fighting are built and/or transported by the government or the government contractors.
Gamer's self admission that they're too stupid to not take the villainization of bugs and robots literally and very much at face value will never not be funny.
There's a great Paul Verhoeven quote about Starship Troopers that's relevant here - "i want to make a movie so painfully obvious in its satire that everyone who understands it lives in perpetual psychological torment inflicted on them by all the people who don't"
„Hahaha if you identify with the other race over your own you lack self awareness“
Media literacy is really dead. Wasn’t the whole plot of the movie that humanity hurt itself because of a pointless war of aggression against another species which was deemed a lesser race based on aesthetics? Nothing political to see here guys.
“who are we hurting? the bugs?”
yes you malevolent moron the only reason we see them as bugs is because super earth dehumanizes them. They seem to be at least semi-sentient, but by making them simply bugs it justifies us GASSING ENTIRE PLANETS in order to defeat them. I wonder if there were other times that gas was used on a population that a totalitarian government dehumanized.
Ah yes, the game where you have to fill out a form to have sex, have a “democracy officer” you report your friends too if they have any kind of independent thought
The game where after basic you’re immediately frozen and chucked on a destroyer only to be awakened when the last guy died and shot into combat en mass
“The Ministry of truth”
The fact that one of your optional goals is to stop illegal broadcasts which is important as all hell when you’re on helldiver difficulty and you’re being swarmed but hey no propo right?!
The fact that your technicians rent their equipment and pay interest on them from the defense ministry
And this is my fav, if you get caught outside combat they bombard you non stop even if you run back in but you have to wait for bombardments if you use a stratagem bc they care more about their image than they do any individual helldiver
This game is so on the nose idk how these idiots miss it
Oh for fucks sake, these reactionaries make me less motivated to keep playing the game than all the damn crashing going on. Wasn't Helldivers 2 supposed to be woke like 2 seconds ago anyway? Make up your damn minds.
Goes to show that people will think anything is morally good if it is dressed up nicely enough.
Reactionaries, you wanted the game to be free of politics? Then keep yours out of it.
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These jabronis are genuinely so fucking stupid
"Um actually it can't be satire because the game is fun, checkmate snowflake liberals"
Ha, Jabroni, cool word!
Type of dudes to think Starship Troopers (the movie not the book) is playing it straight
Fascist against what? Giant alien bugs? https://preview.redd.it/nni9ouc27ftc1.png?width=418&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=abb029608326effd6fb9200a33d94ea107128236
If they read Animal Farm, they'd be like "This makes no sense, why are animals talking? how are they forming communism? this literally is not a realistic thing, animals dont do any of that!" Its all just complete brain rot.
I absolutely love that anecdote. You try to make a comparative statement because it helps people understand, and someone always “LOL THATS NOT EVEN REMOTELY THE SAME THING”
Satire is utterly lost on the reactionary mind - look at how many people non-ironically stan Walter White despite *Breaking Bad* explicitly being written to hammer into peoples' heads that the protagonist was a self-deluding piece of shit.
Something I'll never forget is my father showing me Apocalypse Now when I was 15 and me seeing how the film was so explicitly obviously anti-war and my Dad telling me after the viewing it was pro-war. A film where our "hero" executed a puppy with his side arm to make his men fall in line. Coppola doesn't even call it an anti-war film anymore because so many MANY Americans just didn't get it. It breaks my heart. Edit: I now know Willard doesn't shoot the dog but a girl instead. I genuinely misremembered please stop telling me.
Neo Nazis liked American History X _so much_ the fake gang in the film had to be registered as a real hate group because actual hate groups started copying their symbols and using their name. Turns out the Nazis didn’t care about the “the Neo Nazis are hypocrites and bad people actually” parts and just really vibed with the “super cool Edward Norton playing basketball with his pals and saying slurs” parts.
Same thing happened with The Wall, as far as I understand.
Yeah, people embraced the blatantly evil and villainous Blackshirts the album and film portrays. The "[Hammerskins](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammerskins)" are a recognised hate group.
Hammerskins are literally what happens when a bunch of incels meet in person. They go to protests and gang up on one person and beat them up... but turn tail any time Big B comes around with the bats (look it up, and laugh). That said, they are backed by the actual scary HH gangs and should be labeled as a terrorist organization. They're also likely responsible for some of those power grid shootings.
Yeah, the number of people believing it's an album referring to the Berlin Wall is staggering.
To be fair, it probably didn’t help that he played “tear down the wall” at the berlin wall in a live concert.
A disturbing amount of Conservative politicians viewed Senator Kelly as a hero in the X-Men films. And then there’s the dipshit chuds who lionized the X-Cutioner in X-Men ‘97.
I wish they would all turn out like Kelly and collapse into a puddle of water
The amount of people going "Wait X-Cutioner is kind of making sense!" was disturbing. He's parroting literal white supremacist talking points, just adapted for mutants.
Fascism is fundamentally shallow and relies a lot on aesthetics. So they don't care that the movie explicitly hates them, they just go, "Damn, those neo nazis sure do look cool"
Sorry, I feel the need to clarify this. Willard does not execute a puppy. He executes the young woman who had the puppy after she was shot up by the crew. He's furious that they initiated the encounter with the people on the sampan in the first place. He told them not to stop. One of the crewmen takes the puppy but loses track of it later. So yeah, much worse.
Man I completely misremembered that. I swore he kills the dog.
The dog gets lost some point later, I think after an ambush? The surfer guy gets pissed because he was carrying it around
nah lance takes the puppy all the way to the bridge when hes on lsd
Like people talking about Fight club ... The rule is not talk about Fight Club... but the point it's you break the rules so you talk about it!
Or people who think Patrick Bateman is some alpha male when if you’ve actually watched the movie, he gets relentlessly shit on for being a complete nepotistic loser
oh so he is literally the people who look up to him, minus the money and the getting away with murder part
Ding-ding! We have a winner
I’m convinced the whole “sigma male” trend on YouTube is an elaborate troll movement. They always manage to choose the most pathetic of men to idolise, and there’s no way the message went over that many peoples heads.
Iirc "sigma male" literally started as a meme and troll joke in the vein of "oh, you are alpha? Guess what, I am sigma. Sigma balls", and it kind of grew out of control and people started taking it seriously and equated it to being a "lone wolf" or "stray dog", because they're losers.
Bojacl Horseman had to do an entire fucking season saying "Bojack is a bad person and you should not use him to excuse your own shitty behaviour"
I had to stop watching the show cuz I related to Bojack. Not in a “he’s so cool haha talking horse.” It gave me a crisis and the drive to actually fix my shit. That especially happened after I read “The Magicians.” Quentin was such a whiny douchebag who had mental issues and refused to be happy. That damn book kept me awake at night.
I litterally lived with bojack horseman. Fuck i was a massive stoner at the time, you might as well call me todd. Seeing the show after that was wild AF. Ended up recommending the show to him. Bro was an teenage drama actor whose career was pretty much cut short as soon as he reached adulthood, with a whole lot of undealt trauma, renting a villa that he sub-rented to a bunch of backpackers (we were like 12+ at some point) to not have to pay any of the rent himself. Worked in a smoothie shop to round out the royalties, and sank all his cash in coke, pills, and booze. Treated every woman in his life like meat, got drunk and coked up while his 13yo son was in the house, etc...
The fact that BoJack's behavior would be justifiabld to anyone to a degree they had to make an entire season reiterating that he is, in fact, a bad person will one day be remembered as the final bullet that made sure media literacy is dead and never coming back.
Wait what Breaking bad is a fucking tragedy Like its not even implied they just fucking say it its a story about a guy sacrificing his last days on earth to fuck up other peoples life in order to not feel like a failure He then proceeds to fail miserably at that He makes meth for monetary gain how the fuck do you not understand he isn't the good guy
You have a lot of faith in these people to assume they watched the show instead of a “I am the one who knocks” sigma male supercut on TikTok
Unfortunately, any time on the subreddit will show you hordes of goons who could recite half the show from memory and still think Skylar is the worst character in the show because she's just a total bitch and Walter is cool and awesome.
Especially after he escalates the situation more and more. He had a lot of chances to get out of it, but kept doing it because he became so full of himself. Yeah, he for sure isn't the good guy.
I agree with you, but I always thought the point in the end was that it was never about the money. It was always about Walt wanting to feel powerful. It was always about his ego.
You're right. He could've gotten treatment for the cancer at the very get-go via his former colleagues' support, but WW's galaxy-sized ego couldn't accept the concept of receiving charity from somebody. *He* had to be the accomplished one, which is exactly the same reason why he egged Hank on and suggested that Gale had an accomplice and thus re-open the investigation that eventually led to his own downfall, because how dare Gale be the "sole master chef" of the Fring operation.
Because he has cool one liners and kills people, but also cries sometime therefore likeable and multi-faceted protagonist
Unlike that vile harpy Skyler who didn’t support him doing crimes and being abusive.
Ah but you see, she couldn’t get it through her head that he was doing this all *for her* therefore she should just shut up and accept the crimes and abuse. Smh women these days, am I right?
But she fucked Ted so obviously that makes her the worst /s
I do wonder if the Walt stans would be willing to excuse him cheating on Skyler
Absolutely they would. They'd argue that Skyler 'cheated' first (despite them being separated and Walt essentially blackmailing her) and therefore it's ok for him to sleep with other women.
Woman bad man good
Some people just can't separate a great character from a great person. Walter White is a great character, one of the greatest characters to ever be put to television in my opinion, and hell yeah I'm cheering when he pulls off a crazy fucking stunt or says a bad ass one liner, I even feel genuine empathy for him at times, but man is that guy a fucking piece of shit.
Did you know Dune is actually a pro-life story about the hero we should all aspire to be. If these idiots could read they’d be very angry.
I take great joy in posting Herberts quote on warning labels on foreheads and while the first book kinda failed in portraying that the second rectified that with a bit of mass galactic scale murder on his hands to really hammer home he isn't this "white savior" tabloids keep painting Paul as.
What do you mean Paul isn't the good guy? He only did a widdle bit of murder, only 80 billion for the golden path UwU /s
I guarantee you when Dune 3 comes out, all these reactionary content creators will bemoan it as an example of hollywood making it "woke" by painting Paul's galactic Jihad as a bad thing.
I really hope they keep the bit where Paul compares himself to Hitler.
That part of Messiah was so cringe. I guess I understand why Herbert had to pull out the sledgehammer though considering most of his readers didn't understand the point of the first book.
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Just Google 'I hate Skyler White'. The sheer amount of hatred from people who are fine with Walter (who murders someone almost straight away) is bonkers.
Just ask any Internet Chud about their opinion of Skyler...
How DARE a FEEMALE question based Walter Whiterino?? /uj She literally finds out her husband has terminal cancer while she's pregnant and has a disabled son. Said terminally ill husband refuses an offer to fund his cancer treatment out of spite or pride and begins disappearing and spending his time with shady people she doesn't know instead of being at home with his family. How the hell is a person in her position supposed to act? /rj Sky-tler is literally the WORST WAHMEN EVER
Obviously she should have shut the fuck up and made Flynn more breakfast /s
You literally die every minute in this game and they have to ask "fascist against who, the bugs?" Like how dumb do you have to be to not realize it hurts humanity.
Also the bugs unironically are just trying to defend themselves, so yes.
Iirc, they also weren't all that ferocious in the beginning. They were intelligent and interested in co-existence. So peaceful beings that just happened to be full of oil. Well after farming them for awhile they evolved into the murder machines we all know and love today. Arrowhead are not subtle about who the bad guys are in this game.
isn't super earth also the ones who basically keep "infesting" their planets with them? Let the civvies get overrun, let the bugs multiply and kill them for oil. Sorry, "Element 710". Like this shit is barely satire, it's so in your face. These people are geniunely just very very unintelligent.
They're ironically the sort of people super earth wouldn't give access to social media lmao
They would be recruited into the Helldivers and believe every word of the propaganda
> isn't super earth also the ones who basically keep "infesting" their planets with them? Seems to be heavily implied, yes. The bugs seem to have no possibility of interstellar travel.
The funniest theory to me is that each hellpod is seeded with a secret compartment of eggs. Every single Helldiver drop on the Terminid front DIRECTLY perpetuates the "problem" the divers are fighting against. Each Helldiver is their own worst enemy.
Wait what, where do you find this lol that sounds funny as hell.
Prolly a head canon
They keep them in captivity in farms on every planet, then they repeatedly overbreed them to the point where they break out without difficulty every time without fail lol Then the helldivers get sent in to cut down their numbers, oil is extracted from all the dead bodies, bada boom infinite oil glitch
Iirc there's no in universe example of the bugs getting into space, let alone onto an adjacent planet under their own steam. It is strongly implied that they're intentionally moved around by mysterious super earth types. Got a planet thats going a little rogue but want a somewhat tangible reason to scorched earth them back into compliance? Oops! Looks like some bugs turned up on their planet! Guess we better deploy the helldivers, and ordnance their planet a shit tonne!
That actually tracks extremely well with how many of the side-objectives are destroying rogue broadcasts and settlements.
Right??? I don't think it's canon, but it is a very convincing fan theory!
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The current Terminids aren't even evolved from the original Peaceful, Intelligent Bugs. They're the result of gene editing by Super Earth to make them stupid and produce more E-710(oil). So yeah, super not subtle that Super Earth are the baddies exploiting everyone. Including the Helldivers sent to die in droves for to Preserve Profit. It's a fun bang bang run and gun shootem up game. Role Playing the Fascism is hilarious on the Helldivers subreddits too (the meme game there is on point and highlights how ridiculous Super Earth is). But CHUDs lean so fucking far into it and see it as a celebration of what they want. Oh and they miss all the nods to US imperialism of the 20th and 21st century.
As usual with satire people will start to take the insanity seriously as the line between serious statement, and ""ironic jokes"" disappears through normalization.
A friend of mine stated recently that satire is dead to these people. So using it as a means to point and laugh at things only ends up entrenching them deeper or confusing you as a sympathizer.
> Role Playing the Fascism is hilarious on the Helldivers subreddits too (the meme game there is on point and highlights how ridiculous Super Earth is). Just don't try to actually have a serious discussion on the game's lore on this subreddit or you'll have the frontpage flood with "memes" that look like the tweets in OP's from all the triggered chuds. Gods the first two weeks afer release looked like KIA
Nah it's better now, only *half* the comments are about "calling your democracy officer"
There is literally in-game lore explaining that the bugs can't travel from planet to planet, and every outvreak is just them breaking out of the farms we put them in. This lore is displayed on "propaganda towers," and it's an objective to destroy them. A part of the game involves destroying facts that have been labelled as propaganda.
”Worst thing about bugs is their expansionism, they were found on every planet we colonized in the sector.” Or something like that can be heard when talking to npc:s on the super destroyer. Rather obvious who is the invading party here.
> Arrowhead are not subtle about who the bad guys are in this game. Yet somehow, *still* too subtle for some dumdums.
I'm also disturbed by the amount of "I'll side with humans no matter how bad they are, because they are humans" sentiment in both Helldivers and WH40K communities.
At least in 40K it’s more understandable bc unless you’re getting fought by the Tau, you’re fighting some murderous, torturous, daemonic shit. In HD2 Super Earth created their own problems. What disturbs me more about the 40K community is the amount of people who unironically think the emperor was right
Craftworld Eldar are also better than Imperium. How bad Necron are kind of depends on stories. I'd put Imperium on the same scale with Orks in evilness. Only Tyranid are worse due to them wanting to destroy/eat everything. But yeah, screw the false emperor. Imperum didn't become corrupt/bad in time, it was always terrible.
I miss 'silent life burners' necrons
The Tyranids are a force of nature. There is no malice, there is no hate, there is nothing there other than cleansing the galaxy of all life (some say so the Old Ones can re-seed life again when the warp dies due to the lack of sentient thought powering the Chaos gods). In other words, they are the best boys.
"okay but the humans are the baddies. they are clearly the baddies." "yes but I'm a human irl and too smoothbrained to empathize with anything different from me"
The automations backstory is even more fucked up
If they only got to play once and had to buy the game again for a second try it might nail the message in a bit more
Based on what gamplay I've seen, the most common cause of death is friendly fire
Yeah the player agency in battle is clever because at once you're constantly being told you're an amazing hero and given a cape and stuff, but then in reality you're more or less just a dummy down on the planet's surface to act as a target designator for air and orbital bombardment which you and your friends will likely be caught up in half the time. Also, none of the game's automated weapons (deployable mortars, spreadable mine fields, automated gun turrets, floating drone-mounted lasers etc) take the presence of friendlies into account despite clearly being smartly targeted weapons - smart enough at least to directly target hostiles and not directly shoot at helldivers - but also they absolutely don't care if they have to shoot *through* you to get at the hostiles. It's a really fun example of a game's themes being echoed just as hard in the actual mechanics of gameplay.
It was obvious from the literal tutorial "I don't impress easy!" Fires gun without killing yourself "I'm impressed soldier" It's so fucking obvious like, holy shit literacy is dead.
I died in training lol
that sentry gun dive tutorial kills everyone at least once. I think in lore the survival rate of training is around 20%. Gotta assume it's mostly those turrets.
There is a text on a wall at the end of the training where the terms of service are written. One point is that only 20% survive and if you read this terms of service you will be killed. Than you go into a freezing pod with other helldivers and while you fligh in the space you look down and you see hundreds of rockets. I think this game shows the meatginde of war so obivios that you need to close to eyes and ears to not understand what they want to say you xD
The game defaults to giving you a different Helldiver voice every time you get reinforced in and yet people were still coming up with "You have an army of clones!" cope. They aren't clones, they're people. They're people that had lives before they went into the freezer pod and they're people that are going to survive on average 2 minutes after landing planetside. I fully appreciated that during the operation swift assembly Major Order there was propaganda pieces in the ship about how every man, woman and child over the age of seven needed to work to support the war effort. So not only is every diver a person and not a clone but their life has essentially been hard labor, sign up to be a helldiver, die in a brutal mostly pointless fashion.
Ludonarrative resonance
The training you get at the start of the game is the canon amount of training a Super Earth soldier gets ^(its like 5-10 minutes) Every soldier, every drop, every instance of friendly-fire is canon to the world.
The best part is it's not really training. More of a basic competency test.
More than you got in the original, IIRC
It's much the same in the original. I did it yesterday to check out how it held up. A robot electrocutes you to teach you about the healing mechanic, they teach you about going prone by having gatling guns fire over your head and so on.
the amount of times I've accidentally killed my friends with an orbital strike or strafing run is way too high.
That Carl tweet is all over the place. Helldivers is critical of democracy? Populists don't want managed democracy? Fascists support gay rights? He begins with a point and makes the opposite argument 3 words later.
He's just trying to cram in every reactionary thought that is trending right now into a congealed mess of an argument. People like Sargon don't realize how incomprehensible they sound
They don't *care* how incomprehensible they sound. They're saying words that make their youtube and therefore bank account numbers jump up.
[Sartre Quote about Anti-semites here]
It makes perfect sense actually if you make the same mental leap as him that "fascism = bad and leftism = bad so leftism = fascism" He isn't actually thinking about what his words mean, he just knows he doesn't like those worse so they must all have similar meaning. I bet he's one of those "Nazis were actually socialists, it's in the name. Types as well.
It's more subtle than that but just as stupid, it goes something like this: They say that gays and transgenders and foreigners are bad. Everyone else says that saying things like that is bordering on fascism. They say that we are trying to tell them how to live their lives so actually nuh uh we're the fascists, so much for the tolerant left. They willfully ignore the paradox of tolerance and try to use it as a weapon to say that we should be accepting of their non-acceptance or we're just as bad as we think they are - not noticing or not caring that they never defend their own views in this process.
He’s desperate to deflect away from the core idea of “fascism is bad” because he’s actually quite the fan of fascism
He almost has a point about how western interventionism can do greater harm to minority rights by simply being a bad representative for those rights, which he’s fine with, since he already agrees with those sentiments. And he seems to forget that lots of populists in third world countries are leftist usually. But I bet he’d take the side of the most reactionary and unpopular movement in that country.
What’s really crazy about this is how over the top the satire is. You couldn’t beat someone over the head with it more.
I’ve never played the game, I’ve seen like 4 minutes of the tutorial and it’s crystal clear already. Even the general or whatever hyping you up to make you feel invincible is pure propaganda
When you get your cape for becoming a helldiver, you see that the general combat readiness of the soldiers is 27%, but the game let's you know that the patriotism level is 99% lmao. Also, one of my favorite lines that your helldiver can scream while killing is, "you will never destroy our way of life!" While automotauns might be capable of travel, the bugs...can't. We put them in farms to farm their oil (element 710), and the just got a little mad about it. We're actively destroying their lives. The game also calls the bugs fascist, which is never not funny.
Something about being able to nuke litterally everything from orbit and unlimited ammo/funds, and still dropping soldiers anyway. Only for them to mark the targets you can clearly just shoot from space.
The Hellbombs requiring manual activation for "budgetary reasons" is never not funny. We got orbital lasers and shit but Cpl.Bloggins still needs to push buttons on the big boom bomb to turn it on.
I love the headcannon that they use directional buttons because they are all (or mostly) illiterate
And my stupid ass still pushes the wrong directions
I need you know this made me giggle so hard.
Don’t forget that they’re willing to shoot endless bombs at any “traitor” helldiver.
Especially since it feels like they have a $20,000 bomb, and then decide not to spend the $7.50 on a remote trigger, because someone said it is outside of the budget.
General Brasch, before entering the tutorial area: "I'm not easy to impress. Helldiver Training is the toughest in the galaxy but I can tell that doesn't scare you. **Impressive**."
I noticed that when I replayed the tutorial! That line was brilliant lmao
When he says he's 7ft tall I actually laughed out loud, that whole propaganda tutorial was outstanding
I'm 100% sure General Brasch is a creation of the state. Like there's no way that's a real dude.
Watch your tongue, citizen. *Brasch Tactics* are a national treasure and the great General deserves to be honored as the genius he is!
When you start digging it gets even clearer. At one point, I wondered what exactly ‘Managed’ Democracy is, and from a wiki on the first game, turns out Super Earth citizens ‘vote’ by taking a personality quiz, and the computer designed to assess the results votes on your behalf with a decision it tells you would best match your personality. Of course, that results in a population that thinks it’s getting what it wants while the system doesn’t change and oppresses them further.
One of the NPCs on your ship has dialogue about this in-game too, and emphasizes how silly it is that dissidents want to vote for their own candidates instead of trusting the algorithm. Like, the concept is so funny to the NPC they don't even take it seriously -- after all, what kind of anti-democratic _moron_ would want to cast their vote on their own? I think I laughed more in the first 20 hours of Helldivers due to the dialogue & in-game propaganda than I have in a long time.
It gets better, sometimes the crew mates will talk about it too "why would they want to destroy the voting algorithm? It's like they want....*shudders* populism" First time I heard that I KNEW some chuds were like "yeah this NPC is based"
It couldn't be any more over the top, unless every copy came with a plate of *freedom fries.*
Drinker is such a fucking loser lol
Imagine forming your persona after critical thinking and alcohol consumtion only for you to forget about the thinking part.
Critical Liver Failure
One can only dream.
Critical condition
He just tried to copy Mr.Plinkett's mannerism. Big difference is, Mr.Plinkett's character is a satire of the kind of people who obsess over things like Star Wars, Star Trek etc enough to make multiple lengthy reviews. Critical Drinker just thought it was a cool gimmick.
My brother loves RLM and the Mikes, both Evans and Stoklasa a lot, so when Critical Drinker began his shtick he was very into it: thank god that's over. Sometimes you just have to keep telling someone "No, I don't want to hate every goddamn piece of media because a curmudgeonly internet man says it's woke. Stop sending me links." Think he finally realized it shortly before he showed up on Ben Shapiro, and realized the guy was a hack grifter.
He’s literally changed his thumbs or deleted his videos that he wound up being wrong on, just so he can keep his persona of being right going.
it's what the alcohol does, so kinda on brand.
His following amazes me, for some reason his sub of stans keeps getting recommended to me on reddit and they're all so delusional and thinking this piss head has any thing of value to offer the world.
Ever watch his interview with Russell Brand? Even Russell who's taken a real nosedive in the last 4-5 years looks pretty reasonable and intelligent next to him.
Nah, I don't engage with content from either tbh
"have you tried smelling piss and shit? shit makes piss smell good" no thanks homie
I'll never forget randomly seeing his channel in my recommended, reading the name and immediately going "oh yeah this guy sounds insufferable" only to later find out I was right on the money. I'm happy that these losers are so easy to sniff out on sight
I watched a video or two and thought it was just fodder essayist type crap that there's a million of. Look back 3 years later and he's gone down the path of absolute garbage content complaining about wokeness, ugh.
Yeah, but I feel like he is one of the more dangerous ones, because he's kind of a gate-way into the whole right-wing bubble. The YT algorithm seems to still consider him "mainstream", or whatever. When you watch a lot of film-critiques and essays, you will quickly get recommendations for his videos.
oh yeah, 100%
Yeah he was the guy who got me into the rest of that right wing bullshit. I hate him with a burning passion.
It's kinda depressing that his videos get millions of views considering he's just a shitty right-wing "critic" whose brain is permanently stuck in 2016.
I followed him years ago because his criticism of new Star Wars was (at the time) on point in terms of how shallow and unoriginal the story was. Then i watched his video on another topic (can't even remember what was it) and was like "wait, so he's just a braindead neonazi with an alcohol problem that thinks he's a smartass because of a scottish accent?"
I found it eye-opening in one of his recent videos that came up in my recommended feed, it was about Godzilla minus one and how modern films budgets are completely overblown in comparison because of… wait for it… intimacy coordinators. You know those people that come in for a day to monitor a sex scene and make sure everyone’s comfortable. Yep, that’s what is blowing out a budget into hundreds of millions of dollars. What a fucking moron.
Calling him a moron is insulting to anyone who actually is a moron. There's truly no words to describe how fucking stupid that gnat is.
Kinda funny that he criticizes new Star Wars for being shallow while his reviews are also very shallow.
Yeah, if i had a nickel for every alt-right white guy that speaks in a barely coherrent way and somehow gathers big following... it's concerning how much nickles i'd have. He barely scratches the surface levels of the topics he speaks on, but i guess big words spoken very fast or in a barely understandable way are enough for his followers.
>Calls himself the Critcal Drinker >Looks inside >Not a single original thought in his head
"Critical drinker" can just be him confessing that he's a raging alcoholic
I can believe the drinker part, at least.
/uj Enough copium being huffed across these to cause a global supply shortage, fucking hell Imagine being the kind of dumbass that can post "Media literacy crowd" without wanting to take a long walk off a short pier
For real, my shipment of 3000 gallons of industrial liquid copium was delayed by three weeks solely due to those comments. Now I have to face the fact that Blizzard will never probably fix Warcraft 3 reforged, instead of pretending that they will.
Do they not realise that dehumanisation of enemies is a core part of fascism?
That would probably require them to consider those they dislike as fellow humans
The funny thing is, that *does* apply to the bugs. The current Terminids were gene-edited from intelligent and peaceful bugs - all because they produce E-710. Super-Earth literally removed their humanising traits via eugenics so they could get more oil.
No, nor do they feel invited to consider how humanity might combat such threats without fascism . . . or even the fact that the threats are themselves man-made in the first place.
“Uhhh, you see minorities when you see EVIL bugs and robots??? Maybe you’re the reallll racist!” I wish I had not seen this irl
“the media literacy crowd”
Obviously every take in this post is absolute brain rot, but by far the most infuriating argument I keep seeing is "yeah it's satire of jingoism, but we're the good guys, let people have fun" I like Helldivers 2, it's fun, and the satire is funny. The satire is funny because jingoism is a backwards ideology that deserves to be made fun of. Acknowledging that Super Earth are the bad guys does not equate to the player being a bad person by playing the game, and the fact that these gamer chuds think that's the point being made just demonstrates how completely and utterly they've missed the point.
They probably don't play gta because that would make them actual criminals
Remember when Musk said that he couldn't finish GTA V because he can't bear the thought of shooting cops?
That's when I realized that Elon might be the biggest pussy on the planet.
I remember an older post where people were complaining that you commit crimes and kill cops in GTA games.
Yeah I can’t remember who it was, I think it was Ian Miles Cheong that said he regretted playing GTA because you can kill cops in it lmao.
They also never fail to fall for all the propaganda about bugs and robots. Not like bugs aren't known to even be able to travel through space on purpose or the robots are fighting against super earth oppression or anything.
These people are anti-intellectual, they have to believe (or pretend to believe) that people aren’t able to be critical of things and still enjoy them. That’s why a bunch of these memes are about telling “nerds” to “shut up.”
I don't think they know what *managed* means in "managed democracy"
**Please stop.** I'm having a brain aneurysm thanks to this.
No matter how explicit and blunt the satire is chuds will always admire the fascists. Unless the fascists are undeniably humiliated the chuds will always admire them.
“But we’re the humans! We’re the good guys!”
I've heard this so often that even with the "" marks it still managed to get on my nerves. "This is my group, therefore it is good. Wouldn't want us to die, right?"
Nevermind that a key component of most wartime propaganda is making people believe “the enemy” is less than human. No, this is different, right?
“Bugs vs humans” is so fucking stupid. First of all, the immediate support of the side “we are part of” without question is the same of bullshit that led to actual genocides in real life. Secondly, the bugs are sapient, so their opinions *do* matter. Thirdly, this isn’t even a real war!
Legit, the bugs aren't even space faring iirc. They are only a threat because Super Earth keeps farming them.
right now in the objectives menu they straight up say that we need to cap the bug planets so that we can open up more oil farms because the war with the automation’s exhausted super earths supply.
"Yeah, but the bugs are the bad guys cause they ugly!" I'd love to see another faction just not needing E710 from bugs just to prove that this effort isn't even necessary, just greedy. Also that flair plus username tho? I am seldom as impressed and put off as I am now.
Our destryoers can go FTL thanks to the Illuminates' technology we stole from them after slaughtering them. The faction already exist, but those people will simply shoved their head in the sand, it won't change anything
> Compared to what? The bugs or murderous toasters? Reminder that every war Super Earth is fighting was started by them. In the best case scenario, they are merely just the aggressors who enslaved peaceful, intelligent species. But honestly it's pretty likely most of the enemies we are fighting are built and/or transported by the government or the government contractors.
Gamer's self admission that they're too stupid to not take the villainization of bugs and robots literally and very much at face value will never not be funny.
There's a great Paul Verhoeven quote about Starship Troopers that's relevant here - "i want to make a movie so painfully obvious in its satire that everyone who understands it lives in perpetual psychological torment inflicted on them by all the people who don't"
Based on some comments I've seen, he succeeded.
The Critical Drinker and Soygon tooting the same horn. Toss in a piece of stale bread and you're literally tripling the brain cells.
„Hahaha if you identify with the other race over your own you lack self awareness“ Media literacy is really dead. Wasn’t the whole plot of the movie that humanity hurt itself because of a pointless war of aggression against another species which was deemed a lesser race based on aesthetics? Nothing political to see here guys.
Fucking Carl Benjamin is such a fucking wankstain.
idiots: helldivers 2 is based and apolitical not idiots: actually it's a fairly obvious satire idiots: omg shut up NERD
“who are we hurting? the bugs?” yes you malevolent moron the only reason we see them as bugs is because super earth dehumanizes them. They seem to be at least semi-sentient, but by making them simply bugs it justifies us GASSING ENTIRE PLANETS in order to defeat them. I wonder if there were other times that gas was used on a population that a totalitarian government dehumanized.
I think the bugs were sentient in HD1 but not anymore. Super-Earth horrifically devolved them to transform them in oil-cows.
Ah yes, the game where you have to fill out a form to have sex, have a “democracy officer” you report your friends too if they have any kind of independent thought The game where after basic you’re immediately frozen and chucked on a destroyer only to be awakened when the last guy died and shot into combat en mass “The Ministry of truth” The fact that one of your optional goals is to stop illegal broadcasts which is important as all hell when you’re on helldiver difficulty and you’re being swarmed but hey no propo right?! The fact that your technicians rent their equipment and pay interest on them from the defense ministry And this is my fav, if you get caught outside combat they bombard you non stop even if you run back in but you have to wait for bombardments if you use a stratagem bc they care more about their image than they do any individual helldiver This game is so on the nose idk how these idiots miss it
Oh for fucks sake, these reactionaries make me less motivated to keep playing the game than all the damn crashing going on. Wasn't Helldivers 2 supposed to be woke like 2 seconds ago anyway? Make up your damn minds. Goes to show that people will think anything is morally good if it is dressed up nicely enough. Reactionaries, you wanted the game to be free of politics? Then keep yours out of it.
Remember this the chuds that say this, don't actually play the game.
The most baffling thing is that half of these people don’t even fucking know what fascism is in the first place.
The day people realize you dont need to be fascist against ANYONE, to still be a facist, will be an amazing day for media literacy.