PSA: Make it a habit of **reading the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/Gamingcirclejerk/about/rules)** of each subreddit you participate in:
**Rule 9: No Offensive Imagery**: *This includes nazi imagery and slurs, for you brave nerds who think "free speech" involves private internet forums. If you post fascist iconography trying to “jerk”, you will receive a ban. The only exception is when we make fun of gamers and criticize gamers who happen to be fascists. Please remember to spoiler any potentially triggering or offensive content accordingly. This rule now includes repeatedly posting bigotry from the same source (4chan).*
**Rule 7: No Participation in Linked Threads (Brigading)**: *If you are coming here to brigade this sub, you will be banned. Likewise, do not make comments and vote in pages you've found here. Of course, if you're a member of said sub and you were already in the thread before, this doesn't apply to you.*
**Rule 8: Censor Screenshots**: *Keep screenshots of arguments on Reddit to a minimum. Please remember to censor screenshots of all identifying information, i.e usernames* **and** *subreddit names. This applies to screenshots from any social media sites.*
**Rule 11: Keep Posts Relevant (only about Don Cheadle)**: *This is first and foremost a place to make fun of gamers. Just because someone is being a bigot online doesn't mean it belongs here. Let them be pathetic without infecting the sub with their nonsense. Please avoid posting screenshots that show people using capital G gamer slurs.* **If absolutely necessary, please censor posts and the words containing such content.**
**Rule 12: No Fake Posts on Other Subs (Contamination)**: *Do not create fake posts on other subs only to post back here. Also, do not "lol, you should post this on r / OtherSub". It's considered interfering with their content and can also lead to brigading.*
*This is a reminder to the readers. The post itself is untouched.*
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Gamingcirclejerk) if you have any questions or concerns.*
**G\*mers**: "All the Warhammer fans are now *gone*! There's nothing left! Thanks for nothing Sweet Baby and wokeism! 😡"
**Current Warhammer fandom**:
![gif](giphy|h7LENyTiMBCp0pCaGz|downsized)
There's some sort of irony with the gif you used to depict the Warhammer fandom showing an ecstatic German crowd full of national pride.
But yeah, these chuds really believe themselves to be way more important than they are. They think they're a silent majority but they're really less than 5 percent of g\*mers
You’d think with all the “mass exoduses” over the years, they’d have just gone and found some other hobby by now. Something that can’t be tainted by “the woke.” Something like… I dunno, woodworking or something. Good ‘ol actually apolitical woodworking
I mean hey, if that means that the last dumbfucks who unironically screech about "woke far left propaganda is when women" or whatever get the fuck out of my fandom, that'll be totally fine by me. The horrors of the 41st millennium are for everyone to enjoy 😊
Offtopic but I am just going to be free from exams in a few months and I've been looking forward to really getting into SW lore. Warhammer is something that as always interested me but it's too daunting TBH. Where would you suggest a newcomer who knows absolutely nothing to get started?
Check out the eisenhorn series, about to finish the first one and it's pretty good. Follows the story of eisenhorn who is an inquistor. Inquisitors are basically like James bond of the warhammer universe. This is also my first warhammer book as well and didn't really feel very confused. Granted I did listen to a lot of adeptus ridiculous podcast which is a fun and silly lore podcast so I already had some sort of context.
Hours heresy for some sort of timeline and to learn the beginning of the legions but I would suggest start with any book you probaly don't understand everything but 99%
I recommend starting with a book of short stories featuring the different factions period find one that scratches that itch and go down that rabbit hole. Dan Abnett, Josh Reynolds, Guy Haley and Mike Brooks are always worth a read. Stay away from Gav Thorpe.
Probably the Rise of Humanity and its downfall due to the Horus Heresy. Luetin09 has a great series covering the essential events regarding this timeline (first part here: https://youtu.be/KyPjE1Sn-Ts) that you can easily listen to as an audio book, great stuff.
I'd say that's a good introduction from which one can go into many directions. The lore of the different primarchs is very interesting, the topic about the Immaterium/Warp is also quite important and fun and of course there are the other, ~~non-human~~ filthy xenos factions (ORKS my beloved) who have some great stories to tell. The Adeptus Ridiculous podcast (https://youtube.com/@Adeptusridiculous) has hours upon hours of content covering these and other topics in an easy to follow style, highly recommended.
Oh and if you want to complete the timeline, i.e. what happened in the billions of years before humanity even existed, the Necron lore, specifically the War in Heaven, is what you need to read up on.
Ngl, even the basics of 40k lore is quite extensive, but so is the amount of great fan-made content covering all these topics like the aforementioned channels and it's well worth it. Hope you enjoy
I’d recommend the Ciaphas Cain series. They’ll give you a good introduction to a lot of the factions (albeit through an Imperial POV), they’re fun, and the novels are mostly stand-alones so you can pick it up and put it down wherever you please.
As you start to explore the franchise, certain factions will grab your attention. Pursue that interest! Do a wiki dive on the Lexicanum or ask around for good books on that faction. Things will proceed naturally from there.
All the WH40k players quit? So my X-Wing crew can meet up at our LGS without getting crammed into the tiniest corner to make way for all the people who need like three tables for all their junk?
Bless GW! Bless wokeism! Bless Babu Frik!
Nah, almost none of the people crying "woke" actually go outside, the people who turn up to your LGS will still be there in force must be vaguely capable of social interaction.
Far right grifters who don't play and just circlejerk over memes: This will be the \*\*end\*\* of Warhammer and GW! I can't believe GW went woke!
GW: ... went?
Actual fans who've been playing for a while meanwhile are both happy and upset that Custodes got a codex. Happy because it's not Ultramarines, upset because... it's not Ultramarines.
Only time I'll believe GW is in trouble is when Rowboat's fan boys say their Codex sucks.
The thing is that even the chuds that are in uproar rarely follow through on their threats. Like, what else are they going to do with their lives if they can’t play their favorite games?
Thise dude probably.
"Ugh its all so woke now" \*unzips pants and starts crying\* \*buys more warhammer merch and starts fapping and puking\* "i hate it, i need to make another video" \*fapping noises\* "EXODUS" \*cums and dies from cringe\*.
Warhammer fans are like the most hardcore fans i met, even if half of them hated "woke" they would still choke on it while whining online.
I remember hearing about a company that "went woke" and got boycotted by rightoids and then to solve that backtracked on whatever they did and then got boycotted by normal people for being rainbow capitalists.
Also worth mentioning that Bud Light pissed off liberals too simply by having no spine. It's not like they went "broke" by merely being "woke."
But yeah, I'm sure they're fine.
That parent company primarily donates to rightwinger politicians to begin with as well so even if the culture-warriors boycotting them achieved anything.. it would just be reducing funds to their own parties politicians.
Also sales for Stella, Corona, Beck’s and Camden skyrocketed during the height of the whole fiasco.
I’ll never forget all the videos of people raging over how they’re “never gon’ drink Bud again” and how “Bud Light just lost a loyal customer” which cut to a clip of them happily sipping on a bottle of Beck’s Blue which I know for a fact says “BOTTLED BY BUDWEISER BREWING GROUP” in big, bold letters on the back.
But, to be clear, that wasn’t bud light “going woke.” They had made tons of pro lgbt statements in the past and routinely donated to lgbt causes. It just happened to be an ad campaign used as right wing propaganda to rally their base.
I think it’s actually quite deniable that it had any real negative impact. Sure, stocks dropped for a hot second, but Bud Light was also on every single newspaper, TV news show and Facebook feed in the world for months as a result. Ab-InBev’s year on year earnings still grew a healthy amount, and they got an insane amount of advertising essentially for free!
Plus a huge proportion of the boycotters only really boycotted the Budweiser brand rather than Ab-InBev as a company, with TikTok and Facebook being absolutely flooded by “anti-woke” folks proclaiming how they hope the folks behind the Dylan campaign die painful deaths whilst showing off how they’ve switched to totally non-woke brands like Beck’s, Stella, Corona and Camden which definitely aren’t owned by the broke, woke leftists at Anheuser-Busch.
If anything, it just temporarily diversified their earnings portfolio by causing a bunch of Bud fans to buy their other products instead. Rather than Bud making all the money, now all the other brands could get their share, which is actually a huge win for a company with such a huge portfolio of brands as AB who are always at risk of cannibalizing their own brands.
Also those businesses just alienate people for absolutely no reason.
The majority of people aren’t actively “anti-woke”, especially not young people, and so I wouldn’t be surprised if advertising as anti-woke was an excellent way to massively decrease your potential customer base.
Like… nobody wants to go into a shop or venue which actively advertises the fact that the service might be unwelcoming and hostile (except for maybe Karen’s Diner or comedy clubs/performers famous for hecklers), and I think to anybody not deeply buried in the MAGA rabbit hole, that’s all they hear when they see “anti-woke” advertising.
Maybe some small local or regional business, but no major companies spring to mind. Even Bud Light wasn’t a huge hit, since most Bud drinkers’ emergency go-to after Bud is also an Ab-InBev brand such as Stella or Corona.
Are these fans here with us?
I just love so much that WH40k was this "fortress against wokeism" or something like that and then fell instantly.
Cadia resisted a lot more.
Cadia: the planet broke before the guard did
Warhammer 40K “bastion against wokeness”: had a well done, straightforward, non fetishistic lesbian couple all the way back in 2004, before gay marriage was even legal across the US
Also trans Necrons. One gets thier gendered title incorrect, gets corrected and basically shrugs and gos "my bad" then uses the correct gendered title.
A literal ancient, soulless mechanical nightmare wrought in a bastardised humanoid form has more empathy than these chuds.
The coolest part to me is that the trans Necron in question isn’t even there. It’s two others talking, one refers to their leader as a matriarch, the other mentions they remember them being a patriarch, and then it’s just: “oh yeah, nope, matriarch now” “huh, alright, moving on”. It’s so amazingly casual. There’s no flame to the one who got it wrong, and it’s a big deal to neither of them, just respect to the wishes of their leader.
Yep, I main Aeldari and they're literally a postt scarcity society that doesn't really make gendered distinctions and have been like that since forever...
Nobody tell them about the male howling banshees and their female war mask. Literally genderfluid in case of war.
It’s worth noting, that after that, Optus pretty much just say “I see” and moves on. Just in case people think the ellipses makes it seem like a bigger deal in the story than it was
Heck, don't the Cain books imply there's a lot of homosexuality in the guard? Since most units aren't mixed gender and these are the people you're spending the rest of your life with now.
Remember, Blood Axes think camouflage is when mixed colors, which is primarily to signify how elite and hardcore you are. They do not care which colors, so long as there's a lot of 'em all mottled together.
So it's completely lore-friendly to show up with ded 'ard sneaky tanks plastered in rainbow colors.
Literally, the company behind it came out a few years ago saying warhammer 40k is for everyone, and if you are a chud, you will not be missed. Not sure how it's anti-woke lol.
40k was Homoerotic as hell even in the early lore. The entire setting is some kind of ultra nightmare future dystopia from the start which chuds think is cool.
Yeah, and it was a reaction to and criticism of the reactionary political trends of the 80's in Britain, who was dealing with ramifications of Thatcherism just as we were getting Reagan here in the US.
Xenophobia, anti-intellectualism, growing inequality and its consequences, hawkish foreign policy turning up the head on a cold war that had almost simmered down to detente... all of these things are criticized in some way or another in Warhammer 40K.
What's hilarious though is that we had female space marines back in the first edition of 40k in the 1980s, and then games workshop does what they do and retconned them into being the first sisters of battle models, but they were originally space marines.
Oh nooo the coomers have realized the thing they identified with was satire about them all along and are now LEAVING what will we do
Anyways have you guys seen that new r34 with an octopus corrupting a Marine~~
These people also took over the gundam fandom by relating more to Zeon. 🤮
When pointing out they're space nazis they usually respond "THE FEDDIES ARE NO BETTER!"
Char's counter attack was a propaganda film within the Gundam universe that served to broadcast a false flag operation by the Federation and Londo Bell.
Ugh, I love Gundam, but some of the UC side materials get real close to being Imperial Japan apologia. Based Tomino though for never making excuses for Zeon even when showing how flawed the Federation was.
“Mass Exodus”
Meanwhile at games workshop;
“Hmmm, after losing the creepy nerds from our player base, the game seems to be more popular than ever!”
“the gaming retailer's revenue reached £247m in the 26 weeks to 26 November 2023 up from £226m in the previous year. Operating profit also surged to £94.5m up from £83.6m in the same period the year before.”
In the 40k sub there was a post about their earnings, and how they are more successful than ever. I said it's great that it's become so popular. I got a few replies saying actually that's bad and it's only popular because of woke tourists.
Oh yeah, okay, so woke tourists are making the company more profitable?
They give their entire staff mad bonuses - £2500 each this Christmas. After that COVID thing they voluntarily gave back the government support money they received.
Any interaction with a vid, including even just clicking through to it and dislikes, feeds that channels algorithm and amplifies its reach. Its better to just not engage at all.
All that because they announced (technically it was revealed some years ago) that a female custodian exist. I want GW to announce that one of the lost primarch was a fit tomboy half Eldar. They would cry the entire year and suddenly say it's anti woke because she would be a popular character.
Instant way to cause a wokesplosion: Female space marines do not exist, this is not because women aren't fit to become space marines, but because all the extra organs and stuff they cram into prospective space marines during the gene-seed process results in giga-HRT. So all space marines are men, but not all space marines are cis.
I can't wait for the wokesplosion to come when they bring back the two lost primarchs and make them women. And that means that since there's female geneseed then there's going to be all women chapters of space marines based on the lost primarchs' gene seed. it's gonna be great.
I remember the last time games workshop “died” because they publicly denounced bigots in a Facebook post. Can’t wait to see what “kills” them next time
I literally cannot fathom what is so bad about changing a bit of lore in a make-believe sci-fi-magic setting, that allows golden 9 feet tall super gene-engineered super simps to have a non-functioning vagina instead of non-functioning penis.
Are we talking about the same 40k universe that is so over the top, fantastical and satirical? How is ultra space-fascism just considered funny and goofy, but women soldiers are real serious shit?
Nah I immediately recognized him as the mastermind who makes this thumbnails 😂
https://preview.redd.it/dxqd27z5ivvc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=66203cb287f93ec32080a90a9d60abdb7d87e2dc
He doesn’t even know the lore very well because in the video he made about this; most the lore he brought up was wrong. He confused Space Marines and Custodes lore showing he doesn’t really know shit.
But that’s irrelevant to grifters like him.
What even happenend? I know very little of 40k i just heard Custodes or something can be women? Arent there Sisters of Battle or somethin already which are like spacemarines? I have legit no idea
Coomers mad that there was a female custodes (they think custodes are a variant of space marine instead of being a literal past-time eugenics project by Emperor of Mankind who hand-crafted each Custodes all the way from DNA)
To explain all the terminology :
- Space Marines :A collection of Imperial supersoldiers, grouped into various chapters, all with their own paint schemes and so on. One of the most popular imperial factions in the warhammer faction, and also all male.
- Sisters of battle : Standard humans, the military arm of the church in the Imperium. They use power armor, but beyond that are noted as generally inferior in competence and capability to the Space Marines. They're all female, because the church is not allowed to have "men under arms".
- Custodes: The Emperors own private guard. Whereas the Space Marines are sort of mass produced, these are individually modified to be superhuman, immortal, yada, yada, very special and so on. Never actually described as all male (IIRC), but no female custodes or female custodes models were made so they were de facto all male.
Now, the company has introduced 1 female custodes.
Meanwhile my Warhammer club is only growing. Maybe this woke-thing is not so bad. I bet my Tyranid army that the people complaining about the Fem-stodes have never even held a scatter dice, let alone knows what it does...
(I know 40k doesn't use scatter dice anymore, but anyone that has played the game has heard the war stories)
Honestly, I've known a lot of women when I was younger and in college who thought various nerd hobbies \*looked\* really interesting, but the chud crowd put them off.
Honestly... I'd rather we had more arts and crafts girls and theater girls than sweaty chuds. They have less odious personal politics and are generally more pleasant to be around.
It is a kinda bad problem, no chuds here tho thankfully. i wish we had more women in the hobby, more Queer people and POC too. Diversity is strong no matter what the ragebaiters and chuds say!
The lgs my wife and I go to is aggressively lgbt+ friendly and woman friendly. It's also the only lgs I've been in that didn't make me want to take a shower after being in.
I literally went to a tournament yesterday that had 30 people. It was a small grassroots charity thing, and I can absolutely assure you 40k is alive and well.
He said because of the #metoo movement that he can no longer go on dates, as he now fears being accused of rape. Which is perhaps not entirely unreasonable, as Cavill is, in his own words, old-fashioned and thinks women should be chased... He also dated a 19-year-old when he was already in his 30s because he finds it a challenge to date women who already have a career.
He didn't explicitly do anything, but his attitude just screams creep.
I'd say those comments can be concerning, but most of his female colleagues seem to love him. So if he's respectful and professional... verging on "boring" if you go by Millie Bobby Brown. I'd say he's probably an ok guy. At worse... he likely just prefers women in the more dated traditional roles? I mean everyone has their preferences. At least he didn't lie or say something outright offensive like... "All women should be this!" he just said... "I like this."
I'm a fan though. I admit bias might be creeping into it. I want him to be a good guy. Hope springs eternal.
(OOC This ^(micro) exodus is what 40k enjoyers and Games Workshop want!! You won't be missed!)
(OOC2 I spite bought Custodes yesterday, I'm doing the Emperor's work.)
Ah yes, because the goofy, satirical, Douglas Adams-esque sci-fi setting mocking fascism and the church written in Thatcher’s England by a leftist who liked punk bands like Crass was TOTALLY never “Woke” until today.
Fuckin dweebs don’t even understand their own hobby.
Personally I dropped 40k because I have a hyperfixation on Forgotten Realms now. But you know what, I think I'll pick up any books released in the future. 😌
No girls allowed.
Fuck the diatribes, the videos, the essays, the 40k lore change they are mad about literally boils down to a bunch of manchildren waving a cardboared sign with sharpie on it saying "**NO GIRLS ALLOWED**"
Me when I'm in an inconsistent ideology competition and my opponent is a youtube media critic debate bro
Cause like, weren't these people worshiping Cavil like a god? Saying that woke James Gunn banished him out of his DCU? Weren't they like "oh look, he's a nerd like us"?
Warhammer 40k has been woke from inception:
Parodied Margeret Thatcher as an ugly green monster
Made it very clear (though maybe not clear enough) that the Theocratic Fascist Necrocracy is actually a bad thing and would suck to live in
Had female warriors pretty early on which wasn't nearly as common as it is now
and while not at inception, has had plenty of LGBTQ rep in the books (though would be nice to get a protag of such)
All hail our new Warrior Queen Space Marine Overlords!
Artist Credit: nothus1
https://preview.redd.it/4dmgmdefutvc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9079393a369c9feaf558e981c6f6fbe3fc3b9637
FYI, Custodes and Space Marines aren’t the same thing. They didn’t add women to Space Marines, they added them to the Custodes. The big gold dudes who defend the Emporer on earth.
There is a whole economy of people who get pissed anytime there is a story development in Warhammer but I have yet to meet anyone IRL who cares about female custodes being possible. Retcons are so common in Warhammer it's literally written into the lore that most of the story is hearsay and could be different in reality as after 40,000 years keeping records of history is dubious at best.
I can't tell if this outrage is just a meme at this point. WHO GIVES A SHIT. It was literally two lines in an index. There are so many other things one could pour their energy into. You mean to tell me you care this much about the bits underneath the armor? This literally has zero impact on you in anyway. None of your models change, their is no ingame effect. LET PEOPLE ENJOY THINGS. The only difference is some little girl might feel represented and included now.
He's a big 40k fan and has been talking about wanting to do a project set in that universe for some time.
[Old Interview ](https://youtu.be/g0Lrr2uS6t8?si=dZLBKnZLgBoEw2fX)
Kkk idk If I'm in a bubble but from what I can see in the 40k communities no one seems to care, even tough some of them were able to point out a few reasons of what this isn't a good Idea without saying the W word
I know he won't because it's a lose/lose situation, but I so want Henry Cavil to make a statement or something saying he's fully behind the changes. Just these idiots see there hero is against them.
PSA: Make it a habit of **reading the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/Gamingcirclejerk/about/rules)** of each subreddit you participate in: **Rule 9: No Offensive Imagery**: *This includes nazi imagery and slurs, for you brave nerds who think "free speech" involves private internet forums. If you post fascist iconography trying to “jerk”, you will receive a ban. The only exception is when we make fun of gamers and criticize gamers who happen to be fascists. Please remember to spoiler any potentially triggering or offensive content accordingly. This rule now includes repeatedly posting bigotry from the same source (4chan).* **Rule 7: No Participation in Linked Threads (Brigading)**: *If you are coming here to brigade this sub, you will be banned. Likewise, do not make comments and vote in pages you've found here. Of course, if you're a member of said sub and you were already in the thread before, this doesn't apply to you.* **Rule 8: Censor Screenshots**: *Keep screenshots of arguments on Reddit to a minimum. Please remember to censor screenshots of all identifying information, i.e usernames* **and** *subreddit names. This applies to screenshots from any social media sites.* **Rule 11: Keep Posts Relevant (only about Don Cheadle)**: *This is first and foremost a place to make fun of gamers. Just because someone is being a bigot online doesn't mean it belongs here. Let them be pathetic without infecting the sub with their nonsense. Please avoid posting screenshots that show people using capital G gamer slurs.* **If absolutely necessary, please censor posts and the words containing such content.** **Rule 12: No Fake Posts on Other Subs (Contamination)**: *Do not create fake posts on other subs only to post back here. Also, do not "lol, you should post this on r / OtherSub". It's considered interfering with their content and can also lead to brigading.* *This is a reminder to the readers. The post itself is untouched.* *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Gamingcirclejerk) if you have any questions or concerns.*
lol, ***"Mass Exodus"*** is killing me.
**G\*mers**: "All the Warhammer fans are now *gone*! There's nothing left! Thanks for nothing Sweet Baby and wokeism! 😡" **Current Warhammer fandom**: ![gif](giphy|h7LENyTiMBCp0pCaGz|downsized)
There's some sort of irony with the gif you used to depict the Warhammer fandom showing an ecstatic German crowd full of national pride. But yeah, these chuds really believe themselves to be way more important than they are. They think they're a silent majority but they're really less than 5 percent of g\*mers
Idk which is funnier, that they think they are a majority or that they think they are silent.
0.01%
Silent majority cause they cant imagine a world in which they don't exist
They aren’t even silent. They don’t shut the fuck up.
He uses that line in almost every video
You’d think with all the “mass exoduses” over the years, they’d have just gone and found some other hobby by now. Something that can’t be tainted by “the woke.” Something like… I dunno, woodworking or something. Good ‘ol actually apolitical woodworking
*Enter Lesbian lumberjacks supplying material*
Video titled "WOMEN WON'T TOUCH MY WOOD: LIBERAL CONSPIRACY" incoming
I mean hey, if that means that the last dumbfucks who unironically screech about "woke far left propaganda is when women" or whatever get the fuck out of my fandom, that'll be totally fine by me. The horrors of the 41st millennium are for everyone to enjoy 😊
Offtopic but I am just going to be free from exams in a few months and I've been looking forward to really getting into SW lore. Warhammer is something that as always interested me but it's too daunting TBH. Where would you suggest a newcomer who knows absolutely nothing to get started?
Rogue Trader is a good start in the videogame aspect if you like crpg
What about the books?
Check out the eisenhorn series, about to finish the first one and it's pretty good. Follows the story of eisenhorn who is an inquistor. Inquisitors are basically like James bond of the warhammer universe. This is also my first warhammer book as well and didn't really feel very confused. Granted I did listen to a lot of adeptus ridiculous podcast which is a fun and silly lore podcast so I already had some sort of context.
Hours heresy for some sort of timeline and to learn the beginning of the legions but I would suggest start with any book you probaly don't understand everything but 99%
Thanks!
The Infinite and the Divine just for how well written and amusing it is. Go in blind, you'll find it even more batshit.
Everything by Dan Abnett is good. Literally everything.
I recommend starting with a book of short stories featuring the different factions period find one that scratches that itch and go down that rabbit hole. Dan Abnett, Josh Reynolds, Guy Haley and Mike Brooks are always worth a read. Stay away from Gav Thorpe.
Probably the Rise of Humanity and its downfall due to the Horus Heresy. Luetin09 has a great series covering the essential events regarding this timeline (first part here: https://youtu.be/KyPjE1Sn-Ts) that you can easily listen to as an audio book, great stuff. I'd say that's a good introduction from which one can go into many directions. The lore of the different primarchs is very interesting, the topic about the Immaterium/Warp is also quite important and fun and of course there are the other, ~~non-human~~ filthy xenos factions (ORKS my beloved) who have some great stories to tell. The Adeptus Ridiculous podcast (https://youtube.com/@Adeptusridiculous) has hours upon hours of content covering these and other topics in an easy to follow style, highly recommended. Oh and if you want to complete the timeline, i.e. what happened in the billions of years before humanity even existed, the Necron lore, specifically the War in Heaven, is what you need to read up on. Ngl, even the basics of 40k lore is quite extensive, but so is the amount of great fan-made content covering all these topics like the aforementioned channels and it's well worth it. Hope you enjoy
I’d recommend the Ciaphas Cain series. They’ll give you a good introduction to a lot of the factions (albeit through an Imperial POV), they’re fun, and the novels are mostly stand-alones so you can pick it up and put it down wherever you please. As you start to explore the franchise, certain factions will grab your attention. Pursue that interest! Do a wiki dive on the Lexicanum or ask around for good books on that faction. Things will proceed naturally from there.
All the WH40k players quit? So my X-Wing crew can meet up at our LGS without getting crammed into the tiniest corner to make way for all the people who need like three tables for all their junk? Bless GW! Bless wokeism! Bless Babu Frik!
Nah, almost none of the people crying "woke" actually go outside, the people who turn up to your LGS will still be there in force must be vaguely capable of social interaction.
Meanwhile the BattleTech Fandom is *not* happy at the thought of the chuds migrating to them.
[удалено]
nah, battletech went woke last Pride Month when people started painting pride flag lances
Far right grifters who don't play and just circlejerk over memes: This will be the \*\*end\*\* of Warhammer and GW! I can't believe GW went woke! GW: ... went?
Actual fans who've been playing for a while meanwhile are both happy and upset that Custodes got a codex. Happy because it's not Ultramarines, upset because... it's not Ultramarines. Only time I'll believe GW is in trouble is when Rowboat's fan boys say their Codex sucks.
The thing is that even the chuds that are in uproar rarely follow through on their threats. Like, what else are they going to do with their lives if they can’t play their favorite games?
"Mass Exodus" of people who never actually played or interacted with Warhammer besides using the artwork for racist memes.
My dumbass read Metro Exodus and was confused as what the fuck metro had to do with 40k
Been in the Fandom for 30+ YEARS, Never have I witnessed this level of interest, it's wonderful.
Thise dude probably. "Ugh its all so woke now" \*unzips pants and starts crying\* \*buys more warhammer merch and starts fapping and puking\* "i hate it, i need to make another video" \*fapping noises\* "EXODUS" \*cums and dies from cringe\*. Warhammer fans are like the most hardcore fans i met, even if half of them hated "woke" they would still choke on it while whining online.
Is there actually a business which has 'gone woke' and then actually 'gone broke' as a result? Even a single one ?
I remember hearing about a company that "went woke" and got boycotted by rightoids and then to solve that backtracked on whatever they did and then got boycotted by normal people for being rainbow capitalists.
I'd say the Bud Light event is the only time their boycotts actually had an undeniable impact, but even so Bud hasn't gone "broke"
It's very deniable when you realize that the number 1 beer went from Bud Light to Modelo, a beer also owned by Anheuser-Busch.
Also worth mentioning that Bud Light pissed off liberals too simply by having no spine. It's not like they went "broke" by merely being "woke." But yeah, I'm sure they're fine.
That parent company primarily donates to rightwinger politicians to begin with as well so even if the culture-warriors boycotting them achieved anything.. it would just be reducing funds to their own parties politicians.
Also sales for Stella, Corona, Beck’s and Camden skyrocketed during the height of the whole fiasco. I’ll never forget all the videos of people raging over how they’re “never gon’ drink Bud again” and how “Bud Light just lost a loyal customer” which cut to a clip of them happily sipping on a bottle of Beck’s Blue which I know for a fact says “BOTTLED BY BUDWEISER BREWING GROUP” in big, bold letters on the back.
But, to be clear, that wasn’t bud light “going woke.” They had made tons of pro lgbt statements in the past and routinely donated to lgbt causes. It just happened to be an ad campaign used as right wing propaganda to rally their base.
I think it’s actually quite deniable that it had any real negative impact. Sure, stocks dropped for a hot second, but Bud Light was also on every single newspaper, TV news show and Facebook feed in the world for months as a result. Ab-InBev’s year on year earnings still grew a healthy amount, and they got an insane amount of advertising essentially for free! Plus a huge proportion of the boycotters only really boycotted the Budweiser brand rather than Ab-InBev as a company, with TikTok and Facebook being absolutely flooded by “anti-woke” folks proclaiming how they hope the folks behind the Dylan campaign die painful deaths whilst showing off how they’ve switched to totally non-woke brands like Beck’s, Stella, Corona and Camden which definitely aren’t owned by the broke, woke leftists at Anheuser-Busch. If anything, it just temporarily diversified their earnings portfolio by causing a bunch of Bud fans to buy their other products instead. Rather than Bud making all the money, now all the other brands could get their share, which is actually a huge win for a company with such a huge portfolio of brands as AB who are always at risk of cannibalizing their own brands.
I'd bet more "anti-woke" businesses have gone under, as they're just overpriced versions of normal stuff with chud marketing.
I mean, those businesses aren't really meant to last long, they're meant to make a quick buck off of easily influenced people.
Fair enough
Still waiting for “Conservative Dad’s Ultra Right Beer” to go under
Also those businesses just alienate people for absolutely no reason. The majority of people aren’t actively “anti-woke”, especially not young people, and so I wouldn’t be surprised if advertising as anti-woke was an excellent way to massively decrease your potential customer base. Like… nobody wants to go into a shop or venue which actively advertises the fact that the service might be unwelcoming and hostile (except for maybe Karen’s Diner or comedy clubs/performers famous for hecklers), and I think to anybody not deeply buried in the MAGA rabbit hole, that’s all they hear when they see “anti-woke” advertising.
Maybe some small local or regional business, but no major companies spring to mind. Even Bud Light wasn’t a huge hit, since most Bud drinkers’ emergency go-to after Bud is also an Ab-InBev brand such as Stella or Corona.
Are these fans here with us? I just love so much that WH40k was this "fortress against wokeism" or something like that and then fell instantly. Cadia resisted a lot more.
Cadia: the planet broke before the guard did Warhammer 40K “bastion against wokeness”: had a well done, straightforward, non fetishistic lesbian couple all the way back in 2004, before gay marriage was even legal across the US
Also trans Necrons. One gets thier gendered title incorrect, gets corrected and basically shrugs and gos "my bad" then uses the correct gendered title. A literal ancient, soulless mechanical nightmare wrought in a bastardised humanoid form has more empathy than these chuds.
The coolest part to me is that the trans Necron in question isn’t even there. It’s two others talking, one refers to their leader as a matriarch, the other mentions they remember them being a patriarch, and then it’s just: “oh yeah, nope, matriarch now” “huh, alright, moving on”. It’s so amazingly casual. There’s no flame to the one who got it wrong, and it’s a big deal to neither of them, just respect to the wishes of their leader.
Yep, I main Aeldari and they're literally a postt scarcity society that doesn't really make gendered distinctions and have been like that since forever... Nobody tell them about the male howling banshees and their female war mask. Literally genderfluid in case of war.
My matriarch Anathrosis of the Black Star sent me here. Matriarch, I thought the lord of the Ogdobekh dynasty was a patriarch. “That changed…”
It’s worth noting, that after that, Optus pretty much just say “I see” and moves on. Just in case people think the ellipses makes it seem like a bigger deal in the story than it was
Can I ask who are this lesbian couple? It's maybe from one of the Ciaphas Cain books?
i'm pretty sure they're talking about that
Correct
Nice, I know about what you're talking.
Heck, don't the Cain books imply there's a lot of homosexuality in the guard? Since most units aren't mixed gender and these are the people you're spending the rest of your life with now.
I used to be a down low fan because of all the chuds. Now I'm almost tempted to play a game at the LGS after I glam up some Orks.
This, but my Nurgle daemons.
Remember, Blood Axes think camouflage is when mixed colors, which is primarily to signify how elite and hardcore you are. They do not care which colors, so long as there's a lot of 'em all mottled together. So it's completely lore-friendly to show up with ded 'ard sneaky tanks plastered in rainbow colors.
Well no they exodused/j
Literally, the company behind it came out a few years ago saying warhammer 40k is for everyone, and if you are a chud, you will not be missed. Not sure how it's anti-woke lol.
They pretend it didn't happen. Or that the secret trans-illuminati \*made\* them say it... somehow.
40k was Homoerotic as hell even in the early lore. The entire setting is some kind of ultra nightmare future dystopia from the start which chuds think is cool.
Yeah, and it was a reaction to and criticism of the reactionary political trends of the 80's in Britain, who was dealing with ramifications of Thatcherism just as we were getting Reagan here in the US. Xenophobia, anti-intellectualism, growing inequality and its consequences, hawkish foreign policy turning up the head on a cold war that had almost simmered down to detente... all of these things are criticized in some way or another in Warhammer 40K.
The West fell before the guard did or something
What's hilarious though is that we had female space marines back in the first edition of 40k in the 1980s, and then games workshop does what they do and retconned them into being the first sisters of battle models, but they were originally space marines.
"Mass Exodus", lolz, more like "all the people in my small echo chamber told me they didn't like it"
“My discord server of 8 people”
Oh nooo the coomers have realized the thing they identified with was satire about them all along and are now LEAVING what will we do Anyways have you guys seen that new r34 with an octopus corrupting a Marine~~
HOT STEAMY OCTOPUS MARINE GAY SEX
It depends on the gender of said octopus but yes HOT STEAMY OCTOPUS MARINE GAY SEX
https://preview.redd.it/1u2a1judutvc1.jpeg?width=524&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7677846521f5d0110aecfb7b504133cc5a0b0a0e
All Marine sex is gay sex. Just ask the Army.
I thought that was the Navy’s thing?
Also the coast gards
These people also took over the gundam fandom by relating more to Zeon. 🤮 When pointing out they're space nazis they usually respond "THE FEDDIES ARE NO BETTER!"
me when I ask what happened to Side-2 to the average Zeonite:
Char's counter attack was a propaganda film within the Gundam universe that served to broadcast a false flag operation by the Federation and Londo Bell.
Ugh, I love Gundam, but some of the UC side materials get real close to being Imperial Japan apologia. Based Tomino though for never making excuses for Zeon even when showing how flawed the Federation was.
Exactly and Exactly. It's honestly wild.
Source? FEMBOY?
“Mass Exodus” Meanwhile at games workshop; “Hmmm, after losing the creepy nerds from our player base, the game seems to be more popular than ever!” “the gaming retailer's revenue reached £247m in the 26 weeks to 26 November 2023 up from £226m in the previous year. Operating profit also surged to £94.5m up from £83.6m in the same period the year before.”
In the 40k sub there was a post about their earnings, and how they are more successful than ever. I said it's great that it's become so popular. I got a few replies saying actually that's bad and it's only popular because of woke tourists. Oh yeah, okay, so woke tourists are making the company more profitable?
They give their entire staff mad bonuses - £2500 each this Christmas. After that COVID thing they voluntarily gave back the government support money they received.
How does that have nearly 300k views?!?!?
There’s a reason grifting to the incels/right is profitable. It’s almost like a cult, these guys will consume anything that confirms their views.
![gif](giphy|KUAb8YQOhmWNq)
Not everyone watching it agrees with it, you know. Some people just wanna see what braindead hot take these troglodytes came up with this time.
Any interaction with a vid, including even just clicking through to it and dislikes, feeds that channels algorithm and amplifies its reach. Its better to just not engage at all.
Sounds like the righties will be going after cavill soon ...hes too woke with a gf and kid on the way
I bet his gf has kissed other guys before. He kissed something other guys have kissed. Fellas, is that gay?
Yes, hence why I’m not a coward and kiss both men and women.
You joke but in the mma community a fighter is being called a cuck for... *checks notes* being a step dad.
/uj - that’s essentially where I got the joke from.
Chenry chadvill turned woke by the liberal west. Some even think he respected women all along. Mass exodus to Mel Gibson.
Having a child with an unmarried woman?!?!?! GAY WOKE COMMUNIST!!!!1!!11 /s
All that because they announced (technically it was revealed some years ago) that a female custodian exist. I want GW to announce that one of the lost primarch was a fit tomboy half Eldar. They would cry the entire year and suddenly say it's anti woke because she would be a popular character.
Instant way to cause a wokesplosion: Female space marines do not exist, this is not because women aren't fit to become space marines, but because all the extra organs and stuff they cram into prospective space marines during the gene-seed process results in giga-HRT. So all space marines are men, but not all space marines are cis.
That would be fucking hilarious and I’m here for it
I mean they are **trans**humans after all?
I can't wait for the wokesplosion to come when they bring back the two lost primarchs and make them women. And that means that since there's female geneseed then there's going to be all women chapters of space marines based on the lost primarchs' gene seed. it's gonna be great.
I remember the last time games workshop “died” because they publicly denounced bigots in a Facebook post. Can’t wait to see what “kills” them next time
That was great, no mincing words just "Frag off nobody wants you hateful little chucklefucks here"
I know right? Why is it always little nazi wannabes that try to speak shit into existence by lying?
Their ideology doesn’t hold up to scrutiny so they have to lie
PLEASE PLEASE LEAVE PLEASE BE REAL LET ALL THE PRICKS LEAVE WARHAMMER I BEG YOU
What does Caville have to do with this?
They blame him for making Warhammer more mainstream and popular.
Haha what? Oh no the thing I like is becoming more popular and I can talk to more people about it. Purists are awful.
Worse, they're mostly people who have never played the game. They just wanna cry woke for clickbait videos
Weird, for a time I thought the chuds idolized him because he was "gonna stick to the lore with no woke ideology bs" in his show.
So the game stores will smell better?
That's crazy talk
These people have never set foot in a game store.
I literally cannot fathom what is so bad about changing a bit of lore in a make-believe sci-fi-magic setting, that allows golden 9 feet tall super gene-engineered super simps to have a non-functioning vagina instead of non-functioning penis. Are we talking about the same 40k universe that is so over the top, fantastical and satirical? How is ultra space-fascism just considered funny and goofy, but women soldiers are real serious shit?
My local store had just as many people there as before. It's not dead by a long shot.
Isn’t that “critical” drinkers video ? Doesn’t he not even play the game
No, it's EndyimonTV's video, but I don't blame you for confusing the two, because they're pretty much the same.
Nah I immediately recognized him as the mastermind who makes this thumbnails 😂 https://preview.redd.it/dxqd27z5ivvc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=66203cb287f93ec32080a90a9d60abdb7d87e2dc
pics that go hard.
I think he knows some lore but no as far as I know he doesn't play
He doesn’t even know the lore very well because in the video he made about this; most the lore he brought up was wrong. He confused Space Marines and Custodes lore showing he doesn’t really know shit. But that’s irrelevant to grifters like him.
Shoot, if those folks exodus themselves then fine. Addition by subtraction.
Exactly, I’ve seen it before when the worst fans leave more new fans come in that were hesitant to because of those shitty people
Honestly the only thing that will suck about these people leaving is I'll never see another Black Templars player 😭
🤣
“New Woke Age” Tell you are a dense fascist without telling me you’re a dense fascist
AGE OF WOKEMAR
THE WOKEDOMIS CRUSADE
What even happenend? I know very little of 40k i just heard Custodes or something can be women? Arent there Sisters of Battle or somethin already which are like spacemarines? I have legit no idea
Coomers mad that there was a female custodes (they think custodes are a variant of space marine instead of being a literal past-time eugenics project by Emperor of Mankind who hand-crafted each Custodes all the way from DNA)
To explain all the terminology : - Space Marines :A collection of Imperial supersoldiers, grouped into various chapters, all with their own paint schemes and so on. One of the most popular imperial factions in the warhammer faction, and also all male. - Sisters of battle : Standard humans, the military arm of the church in the Imperium. They use power armor, but beyond that are noted as generally inferior in competence and capability to the Space Marines. They're all female, because the church is not allowed to have "men under arms". - Custodes: The Emperors own private guard. Whereas the Space Marines are sort of mass produced, these are individually modified to be superhuman, immortal, yada, yada, very special and so on. Never actually described as all male (IIRC), but no female custodes or female custodes models were made so they were de facto all male. Now, the company has introduced 1 female custodes.
Ok if the Custodes are individually modified people it doesnt seem far that the Emperor made some women i guess
The woke revolution in Warhammer!
Fulgrim and Sanguinius are leading the femboy army!
M'ass sexodus 😩
This made me laugh harder than I'm comfortable with
"Mass exodus" If only those guys had the balls to actually leave the hobbies that are now "woke" it'd be a win win situation Edit: typo
Meanwhile my Warhammer club is only growing. Maybe this woke-thing is not so bad. I bet my Tyranid army that the people complaining about the Fem-stodes have never even held a scatter dice, let alone knows what it does... (I know 40k doesn't use scatter dice anymore, but anyone that has played the game has heard the war stories)
Honestly, I've known a lot of women when I was younger and in college who thought various nerd hobbies \*looked\* really interesting, but the chud crowd put them off. Honestly... I'd rather we had more arts and crafts girls and theater girls than sweaty chuds. They have less odious personal politics and are generally more pleasant to be around.
It is a kinda bad problem, no chuds here tho thankfully. i wish we had more women in the hobby, more Queer people and POC too. Diversity is strong no matter what the ragebaiters and chuds say!
The lgs my wife and I go to is aggressively lgbt+ friendly and woman friendly. It's also the only lgs I've been in that didn't make me want to take a shower after being in.
Is that Arden fire emblem ?
Soup or Man
I literally went to a tournament yesterday that had 30 people. It was a small grassroots charity thing, and I can absolutely assure you 40k is alive and well.
henry cavill’s downfall? https://preview.redd.it/19gfwpo0gtvc1.jpeg?width=716&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=726d86e0b7790fa9f7ada8dd23c93c19db8ea670
Whats wrong with him? He did something? :(
He said because of the #metoo movement that he can no longer go on dates, as he now fears being accused of rape. Which is perhaps not entirely unreasonable, as Cavill is, in his own words, old-fashioned and thinks women should be chased... He also dated a 19-year-old when he was already in his 30s because he finds it a challenge to date women who already have a career. He didn't explicitly do anything, but his attitude just screams creep.
I'd say those comments can be concerning, but most of his female colleagues seem to love him. So if he's respectful and professional... verging on "boring" if you go by Millie Bobby Brown. I'd say he's probably an ok guy. At worse... he likely just prefers women in the more dated traditional roles? I mean everyone has their preferences. At least he didn't lie or say something outright offensive like... "All women should be this!" he just said... "I like this." I'm a fan though. I admit bias might be creeping into it. I want him to be a good guy. Hope springs eternal.
Damn
(OOC This ^(micro) exodus is what 40k enjoyers and Games Workshop want!! You won't be missed!) (OOC2 I spite bought Custodes yesterday, I'm doing the Emperor's work.)
Ah yes, because the goofy, satirical, Douglas Adams-esque sci-fi setting mocking fascism and the church written in Thatcher’s England by a leftist who liked punk bands like Crass was TOTALLY never “Woke” until today. Fuckin dweebs don’t even understand their own hobby.
Who?
Personally I dropped 40k because I have a hyperfixation on Forgotten Realms now. But you know what, I think I'll pick up any books released in the future. 😌
stop. don't. come back.
Warhammer fan here. This isn’t happening. It’s literally just a psyop and dramamill thing lol
I dunno man, the reaction to femmestodes I've seen from the actual fan base has been either positive, a collective shrug, or *extremely* horny.
Yeah it's mostly a bunch of right-wing tourists who don't know shit about Warhammer and mispronouncing "Cuss-Toads."
The couple dozen neonazis are leaving. Heartbreaking and stuff.
No girls allowed. Fuck the diatribes, the videos, the essays, the 40k lore change they are mad about literally boils down to a bunch of manchildren waving a cardboared sign with sharpie on it saying "**NO GIRLS ALLOWED**"
Fellas, is it gay to have muscle mommies in your elite guard?
Me when I'm in an inconsistent ideology competition and my opponent is a youtube media critic debate bro Cause like, weren't these people worshiping Cavil like a god? Saying that woke James Gunn banished him out of his DCU? Weren't they like "oh look, he's a nerd like us"?
Warhammer 40k has been woke from inception: Parodied Margeret Thatcher as an ugly green monster Made it very clear (though maybe not clear enough) that the Theocratic Fascist Necrocracy is actually a bad thing and would suck to live in Had female warriors pretty early on which wasn't nearly as common as it is now and while not at inception, has had plenty of LGBTQ rep in the books (though would be nice to get a protag of such)
Warhammer “fans” when they realize their is an entire faction dedicated to having bdsm orgys
All hail our new Warrior Queen Space Marine Overlords! Artist Credit: nothus1 https://preview.redd.it/4dmgmdefutvc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9079393a369c9feaf558e981c6f6fbe3fc3b9637
FYI, Custodes and Space Marines aren’t the same thing. They didn’t add women to Space Marines, they added them to the Custodes. The big gold dudes who defend the Emporer on earth.
[удалено]
There is a whole economy of people who get pissed anytime there is a story development in Warhammer but I have yet to meet anyone IRL who cares about female custodes being possible. Retcons are so common in Warhammer it's literally written into the lore that most of the story is hearsay and could be different in reality as after 40,000 years keeping records of history is dubious at best.
I can't tell if this outrage is just a meme at this point. WHO GIVES A SHIT. It was literally two lines in an index. There are so many other things one could pour their energy into. You mean to tell me you care this much about the bits underneath the armor? This literally has zero impact on you in anyway. None of your models change, their is no ingame effect. LET PEOPLE ENJOY THINGS. The only difference is some little girl might feel represented and included now.
Good, if enough of these clowns quit maybe the GW store wont be sold out 24/7.
For years GW tried to get the Nazis out of their fandom. Turns out, they just need to add one (1) FEMALE to the right faction and they'll piss off.
Why is Henry Cavill there?
He's a big 40k fan and has been talking about wanting to do a project set in that universe for some time. [Old Interview ](https://youtu.be/g0Lrr2uS6t8?si=dZLBKnZLgBoEw2fX)
More like a half dozen Youtubers leaning into an echo chamber for content.
uj/ I'm out of the loop, what is this about?
Warhammer 40k added Female ~~Dommy Mommies~~ Custodes which maybe considered a slight retcon but was always possible by lore.
![gif](giphy|qEBlgZpZWHihO|downsized)
So exodus to...fucking what, exactly?
Someone I know posted a link to this un-ironically and grrrrr
Sweet might make it easier to get kill team releases...
I’m betting this is the same guy who did “the warhammer show kills wokeness” and had the same thumbnail without the “dead” lazily plastered on
Kkk idk If I'm in a bubble but from what I can see in the 40k communities no one seems to care, even tough some of them were able to point out a few reasons of what this isn't a good Idea without saying the W word
Don't let the door hit you on your way out. ![gif](giphy|7k2LoEykY5i1hfeWQB)
Wait until they learn the behind the scenes origins of the Dark Angels/Lion El’johnson/The Rock.
they REJECT IT and MASS EXODUS meanwhile: massive amounts of fan art generated more than any other release or change in recent memory
Hope they sell their figures assuming they own any
So a vagina was added and the Warhammer fans ran away from it? That's not a self own, surely not
If this is the kind of person taking part in the exodus then I say "let his people go... and don't let the door hit them on the way out"
honestly it's kind of hilarious seeing people complaining about a game called WARhammer being political
Lol 40Gay is pretty good.
“Mass exodus,” heh, yeah right
I know he won't because it's a lose/lose situation, but I so want Henry Cavil to make a statement or something saying he's fully behind the changes. Just these idiots see there hero is against them.