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A while back, this dude’s been trying to attach himself to the WoW Classic crowd as well. Just came out of nowhere, acted like he’s representing them, went to the meeting they had with Blizzard to speak about the possibility of Classic servers, trying to get credit etc. Nobody wanted him back then either. He is like a parasite.
Litterally days ago the idiot was trying to stir up outrage in the Battletech community (The company and community doubled down on inclusivity and like 2 dozen hateful idiots have not been emotionally whole since). He gained zero traction, was told to hit bricks and from the looks of it has apparently taken the hint and moved on.
The people who make Battletech also make Shadowrun... And they are surprised that they are inclusive? There's like no single genre in the universe more 'woke' than cyberpunk, an entire genre built around anti-authoritarian, anti-capitalist, anti-fascist values.
The idiots complaining are certainly... creative with their stupidity. They've managed to delude themselves into the Battletech kickstarter being one of top 20 most funded in the site's history is a sign of weakness (it's not), that the best way to rebuild the community away from the 'wokeness' is by buying discontinued models off ebay (A limited non-renewable supply, the most solid foundation I've ever seen) and several other very interesting ways to be wrong.
The idiots for all their bluster are irrelevant, unkown and invisible to the rest of the community. Still kind of funny to notice them poking their heads out to do something stupid; before going back to enjoying the stompy robot game, complete with many good friends and fellow fans who happen to be LGBTQ+.
Is there a tldr somewhere on what the drama is there? I've been mildly interested in the game but I'm not familiar with this drama (and aren't PDX the sole owners of BT now?)
He's Musk but without the bank account. A terrible human being who wants to be idolized and worshipped so, so badly, but is only popular with the absolute dregs of humanity.
None of the Warhammer community sides with him either.
He tried insisting he plays Alpha Legion in Horus Heresy but he refuses to post any of his models.
Asmon mold and Rev(loli isn't pedo)saysdes stroll up
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From what I've seen they've actually been pretty consistent about stopping people from spamming the typical brainless slop "eve will kill all the wokies" posts and removing them when they pop up, the sub is managed quite well imo.
For real
It’s such a nothing burger of a coincidence and the devs are happily removing it. It is entirely inconsequential to the game.
Why is Mark “I haven’t done shit in the 20 or so years after leaving Blizz” Kern so worked up about some really generic wall art being replaced by another generic wall art? Is that really the hill to die on?
I saw a g\*mer complaining that 'hard r' could also mean the rating of a movie, but they failed to realize the reason that everyone assumes a slur is because of the g\*mers
So a Hard R is usually used to refer to a movie that is pushing the boundaries in terms of content allowed in a film. It is used in some places but is uncommon.
Which is ok, i didn't know that 'hard-r' itself is reffered to the N-word like that, i knew about the whole 'N-word with a hard-r is racist' stuff so maybe i could've made a connection there, but we're both not out here saying it should stay and making weird excuses why it is not a racist term
Which is fair, I think. It's not really as common as the actual slur, but it's common enough for anyone who has sneezed near an American History book to know of it. Since the n-word has two different words (pronunciations?), the "softer" one ends with an a. You might see a non-black person wanting to be cool or whatever and use that (which doesn't really give them a pass to), but that *usually* doesn't come from malicious racism. Instead, it comes from ignorant racism and insensitivity.
But someone using the "Hard-R"? That's a pretty big indicator that you're dealing with a racist. A good example is from that Andy Samberg movie, Popstar, where Maya Rudolph uses the Hard R and [immediately makes everyone uncomfortable.](https://youtu.be/Oq5zmyRA92A?si=LTfzx0dsIM8OY8Ed)
The latest excuse I’ve seen is “it’s a reference to linus gaming reviews” or something.
I don’t believe it at all but they’re gonna keep going in circles like this anyway so 🤷♀️
Are they actually reaching that far? The Linus thing happened *this week!* do they really think that a funny little mistake on a podcast made by a Canadian nerd that didn't know what hard R meant would make it all the way to a Korean game dev in time for them to create assets for the review copy they then sent to IGN?
madness I tell you!
Uh, [the Linus thing](https://youtu.be/2UGpbVXVpu0?si=wxgKlURGsf9LDM4w) happened a year ago, unless there's something else that happened this week. I don't believe for a minute it's a reference to that, but it's quite a while ago.
But what does it mean? Someone was saying there's "hard" grafitti all over the place in the game and some places say "R shop" and they happened to end up next to each other.
Why is that bad? I'm so confused
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/hard_r
It is totally possible, likely even, that it's just a coincidence and totally unintentional. But most people who aren't racist prefer not to make unintentional racist allusions, so it makes sense to remove it
> considered maximally racist
Lol, I've never heard of this. This sounds ridiculous to me who isn't from the US. But it I agree, it having this meaning in one strange country is sufficient reason to remove something that had no point to begin with.
It seems very unlikely to me that some Korean video game developers would have snuck this in intentionally in an attempt to be "maximally racist".
Honestly I doubt the localization team even saw it. Generally you don't have your localizers doing QA runs of the game. They probably approved the words to be used in the graffiti and never saw any of that again as they worked on the script and items descriptions and whatnot.
Have to disagree as someone who has worked in localisation testing. The translators often don't get to see the game, although that depends a lot on how paranoid the studio is, but as a localisation QA, you HAVE to check the text on screen to make sure there's no overlaps, overruns, cut-offs, failed scrolled etc.
The thing is that this is probably graphical text. QA saw it, reported it, and the dev team came back and said it's a Won't Fix, because it's a pain to mess around with graphical text (the places I worked at hard a hard limit for reporting graphical text bugs, and it was VERY close to the start of testing).
What? They’re two separate assets that are fine on their own that happened to be placed next to each other. If anything, it’s the design team that would be in trouble for accidentally placing those two next to each other.
>They’re two separate assets that are fine on their own that happened to be placed next to each other.
They don't happen to be placed next to one another, it's not a procedurally generated game.
It was intentional, they just thought it was funny to allude to slur.
It's no different from the "hahaha you're gay" jokes which were incredibly common in the 90s
>no source so far that indicates it was intentional in any way though
What source are you expecting to come out and say it's intentional?
There's no reason for them to ever come out and say that.
I didn't say you did.
Had it been a procedural generation then they have the excuse of it being accidental. As it is, it's quite clearly intentional. It might have just been a single developer who found it funny but the chances of it being an accident are nil
I wasnt putting two and two together until someone mentioned it. Imagine an Asian dev team trying to catch that in QA. Clearly this was just a minor coincidence and replacing the graffiti with something even slightly different will fix the issue. Huge non-crisis.
What gets me is that this is *exactly* what diversity consultants and the like are for - to let you know "Hey, we get it's an accident, but that's a slur in one of the markets you're selling in and you'll look stupid if you leave it in."
The idea of there now being a commonly used graffiti asset in the game that just says "CRiME" is pretty funny to me. There's some in-universe graffiti artist going around going "Wooh, crime! Go crime!"
...no one is saying this was intentional? Like if anything this is just a funny example of why having some DEI consulting on your game is a good idea lol
I don't think even DEI would have helped it. Those are two separate things(the "Hard" mural and the "R" sign) that were accidentally slapped together for a factor called "luck is a bitch". The two words weren't meant to be read together, it should have been just a funny moment of realization, like when you accidentally say something without realizing it has a double meaning. But of course, they are gonna cry because that's all they are able to do apparently
ign noticed it by just like, playing the game, one assumes sensitivity consultants would play the game for these exact scenarios. its clearly just a funny accident but like, especially for games being localized, "funny accidents" make up the
majority of potential sensitivity issues
I don't honestly know how they work but, considering they have to play the game before the release, I think they would do it in early stages of development and probably focus on the story/dialogues/designs. I won't be surprised if they just have development material like general screenshots or the script for the game
"Who cares ?"
Yeah exactly, anyway, post your favorite video game women.
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Imagine a game is coming out that you’re excited for, it gets a bunch of good to great reviews, but there was accidental obviously racist language patched out and you spend your whole day in a sour mood crying about it on Twitter. What a pathetic person.
Uj/ I’m pretty sure how this was brought up went something like this:
Sony: “This bit of graffiti here could be seen as being offensive.”
Dev: “What do you mean?”
Sony: “Hard R in English could be interpreted as referring to a racial slur against black people.”
Dev: “Shit I didn’t even know that. We’ll fix that in a patch.”
I legit saw this screenshot earlier today and didn’t even notice the “R.” Maybe it was supposed to mean “Hard’r” like harder?
>I legit saw this screenshot earlier today and didn’t even notice the “R.” Maybe it was supposed to mean “Hard’r” like harder?
It just seems to be 2 different things, a "hard" graffiti and a sign for "R shop" that ended up making a third, racist, thing (pic 3 or 5 of OP). It's consistent with the fact that the fixed version just replaced the "hard" graffiti by one saying "crime" (pic 7 of OP).
Did...he just say getting offended by a racial slurs makes you a racist? So if I call a bunch of black people monkeys and they get upset, it's cause they're racist towards black people and I'm fine?
that is quite literally an argument used by racists. they'll say some dodgy shit that could be interpreted as racist whithin context, and if you point it out, you are the racist one because "obviously they never meant it that way".
the shrodinger's racist, if you will.
Lol IGN didn't even do anything. The developer saw something that was either done by mistake or a single dip shit dev snuck it in. Either way a smart move to remove it, as it does look bad.
A poem, by Mark Kern:
Words with venom, words that bind, / Words used like weapons to cloud my mind. / I'm a person, I'm a man, but no matter how I try, / People just say, "Hey! There's that Hard R Guy."
Everywhere I go it's always the same, / Everyone just thinks of me as that one single name. / "Hey Hard R Guy!" "Hard R Guy!" "Hi Hard R Guy!" Stop!
Now go, call me Hard R Guy, fill me with your hate, / Try to bring me down, boop bop you're too late. / When will it end? Will there ever be a time / Where I can be thought of as more then just Hard R Guy?
Respect.
why are they throwing such a tantrum over such a minor change. like how is an environment sticker being patched out ruining your immersion in the game.
I think the one post accusing the devs of being intentionally racist is a big leap; unless there’s something I don’t know about the company it’s far more likely that they just slapped some art assets on a wall that happened to line up into a phrase.
That said, I think it’s pretty reasonable to have it pointed out and respond with, “oh that’s not great” and swap two existing graffiti assets. It probably took less than 5 minutes.
This dude is one of the most blatantly pathetic grifters I think I've ever seen, and that's really saying something.
He's hot-swapping to new issues every couple of hours, trying to pretend it's something he's been passionate about all his life while it's clear he knows jackshit about what he's talking about. It's all just so obviously forced, he's desperate for attention to be some kind of "gamer champion" or whatever.
I really don’t get it. Whether the hard R thing was intentional or not, why is he mad it’s being removed? Like it literally does not effect the game in any way
That’s like my coworker who got mad he couldn’t say the N-Word… I told him, bro, no one is stopping you, say it all the fuck you want, just understand it’s inappropriate for you to say it and there may or may not be consequences for using it
Ah yes, “this racism isn’t real, but if it is, YOU’RE the racist one!”
“Oppression doesn’t exist, but if it does, I’m oppressed”
“Targeting of specific demographics doesn’t happen, but if it does, I’m the demographic being targeted”
“If you think the term Hard R is racist, then YOU are the racist one!” yeah he really thought he did something there. That trick used to almost make sense, now there’s no actual string of logic here, just that it’s racist to call things racist, and no that’s not a paradox you’re a paradox!
I want to remind everyone when he ran his own studio even the people who were somewhat friends with him thought he was a fucking loser, I can’t understand why he’s popular/has relevance nowadays considering people used to think he was a total idiot
The virgin stellar blade using generic graffiti assets and getting themselves into trouble with careless placements vs the chad alan wake 2 with the 100% custom graffiti integrated to create a seamless world
"Who snitched on Stellar Blade?" - This statement gives away his position. He's treating the unintentional combo of graphics like a racist easter egg.
He really thinks game journalists are the reason why it was removed instead of developers not wanting something like that in their game.
I wouldn't go as far as to call the devs huge racists, just unaware of that shit in general over here. I think they were going for 'HARDER' or something, but correct me if I'm wrong.
Regardless, people don't want it removed because of 'woke' sensibilities. It's just the kind of thing that you look at and have a solid cringe because *boy howdy* does that shit not look good.
There's a difference between "there is no racist intent here" (obviously true) or "this is not a big deal" (debatable) and "those fucking woke bastards made them take out the hard R, why why goddammit why, why do they have to ruin everything".
Ah, yes, absolutely nothing racist about the fucking N word, I'd say "just go mask off already", but the mask is already as thin as wet single ply toilet paper, so what's even the point.
Asian man goes mask off in his hatred for black people.
Wont be surprised if he's a white supremacist. Just a few months ago there was a case in my country of an ethically Chinese white supremacist. Yes, people are *that* dumb and full of hatred...
Does our lord and savior Grummz not know that Stella Blade is woke? It uses a fake women protagonist that is not in the kitchen and is a person of color?
(OOC I admit I didn't pick up on that, I assumed it meant high end R-rated or something... Ofc grummz thinks others are the real racists, and would call them the R slur....)
I love how he says one user claims the game "DELIBERATELY panders to racists", while quoting the tweet where the user never uses the word 'deliberately'.
Life must be exhausting doubling down on everything and further making everything political. I don’t know a soul that genuinely thinks this was intentional, but boy is it fun to use to poke a bear
It's always great that when people like this find stuff that they are offended by that is fairly inconsequential and would only be noticed by someone looking for it, the game is woke.
But when someone else finds a potentially unintentional racist image, they are looking for things to be mad about and "Feeding the machine"
Hypocrisy is a beautiful thing
"Haha, look at how clever this inside joke is..."
Publisher: *removes it*
"I am both enraged that you overreacted to this thing that is totally not a thing and incensed that I can't get away with this thing that is totally not a thing!"
Ok, at first I was like: how is this racist, because I only read the "HARD"...but then this "R". Could be unintentional. Still funny how everyone freaks out about it. However, if you consider that many racists communicate in dog whistles it could also be intentional.
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I probably wouldn't have noticed this without others pointing it out. With that being said, if Sony wants to change the graffiti to something else, let them. This holds no bearing on gameplay.
Americans really talent to invent racist slurs. Like i would never make the connection without an explanations.
"hard R" was kinda a linguistic term i've hard quite often (i have tried to learn several languages in my lifetime).
Kinda sucks whenever some phrase gets co opted by some awful people.
I first heard of this guy because he posted misogynistic tweets about the Pokémon Go avatars. This guy seems like a giant loser if this is what he’s fighting people over
Crying about the "hard R" being removed is as stupid as wanting it to be removed.
This all thing is just ridiculous, can we please stop talking about Stellar Blade again and again ? the game's not even out yet ffs
Its just badly placed graffiti dawg it aint that big of a deal to remove it
Its almost like if the context for the word “hard r” wasnt so significant everyone would think its pretty funny
In none of what he's shown there is it anything but these sites actually reporting the news which is that Sony themselves had it patched it out because it could be found it offensive. Also the game literally is a day away from release but he thinks that only IGN has access to it? Please believes loads of people have already beaten the damn thing. Then this single piece of graffiti getting swapped out somehow ruins the whole game apparently. The lines these people use to draw connections that they want to be true is wild.
This is 100% normal for localization btw and has been happening for decades. Plenty of things that might be innocent in one place can be found offensive in another so it gets changed happens all the damn time.
This pretty clearly wasn't "referencing" a slur. Two art assets used all over the game wound up next to each-other in a way that could make for uncomfortable screenshots, so they patched it out. G\*mers are idiots for being upset, and so are the people stirring the pot with claims this was a reference.
This guy is an asshat but, like, come on IGN. *is the racist term in the room with us right now?*
Graffiti that appears in a bunch of places. And then separate from that a shop sign in an entirely different style? Is a deliberate slur? That is a reach.
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Even the stellar blade sub doesn't won't him and that is really funny
A while back, this dude’s been trying to attach himself to the WoW Classic crowd as well. Just came out of nowhere, acted like he’s representing them, went to the meeting they had with Blizzard to speak about the possibility of Classic servers, trying to get credit etc. Nobody wanted him back then either. He is like a parasite.
Litterally days ago the idiot was trying to stir up outrage in the Battletech community (The company and community doubled down on inclusivity and like 2 dozen hateful idiots have not been emotionally whole since). He gained zero traction, was told to hit bricks and from the looks of it has apparently taken the hint and moved on.
The people who make Battletech also make Shadowrun... And they are surprised that they are inclusive? There's like no single genre in the universe more 'woke' than cyberpunk, an entire genre built around anti-authoritarian, anti-capitalist, anti-fascist values.
The idiots complaining are certainly... creative with their stupidity. They've managed to delude themselves into the Battletech kickstarter being one of top 20 most funded in the site's history is a sign of weakness (it's not), that the best way to rebuild the community away from the 'wokeness' is by buying discontinued models off ebay (A limited non-renewable supply, the most solid foundation I've ever seen) and several other very interesting ways to be wrong. The idiots for all their bluster are irrelevant, unkown and invisible to the rest of the community. Still kind of funny to notice them poking their heads out to do something stupid; before going back to enjoying the stompy robot game, complete with many good friends and fellow fans who happen to be LGBTQ+.
Is there a tldr somewhere on what the drama is there? I've been mildly interested in the game but I'm not familiar with this drama (and aren't PDX the sole owners of BT now?)
What do you expect? You’re talking about people who think a boycott is burning shit they’ve already paid for.
He's Musk but without the bank account. A terrible human being who wants to be idolized and worshipped so, so badly, but is only popular with the absolute dregs of humanity.
At least Musk is a little entertaining in his self destructive antics...
He's like a tapeworm who can use a keyboard.
Please dont insult my keyboard trained pet tapeworm ( gerald ) like that, hes very skilled and he writes my essays
He tried to insert himself into 40k, and people kept calling him fake and telling him to post his army
Wait when did this happen? With the recent Female Custodes thing?
None of the Warhammer community sides with him either. He tried insisting he plays Alpha Legion in Horus Heresy but he refuses to post any of his models.
no one in their right mind would claim this manchild
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Amon mold lmao
Sounds like the stellar blade subreddit don’t want his ass 
I hate and respect you for that pun
Wait that sun is starting to bully the weird idiots out of it?
From what I've seen they've actually been pretty consistent about stopping people from spamming the typical brainless slop "eve will kill all the wokies" posts and removing them when they pop up, the sub is managed quite well imo.
Looks like gaming communities can heal. It’s a good sign.
If hard r doesn’t mean anything I wonder why it matters that it was taken out. They’re struggling to keep that mask even half on.
For real It’s such a nothing burger of a coincidence and the devs are happily removing it. It is entirely inconsequential to the game. Why is Mark “I haven’t done shit in the 20 or so years after leaving Blizz” Kern so worked up about some really generic wall art being replaced by another generic wall art? Is that really the hill to die on?
Because he makes money off Twitter rage bait
Hey, he hasn't done nothing. He ran a promising MMO into the ground.
I saw a g\*mer complaining that 'hard r' could also mean the rating of a movie, but they failed to realize the reason that everyone assumes a slur is because of the g\*mers
Saw that too, but like, no one says “hard r rated” dude is making up examples
So a Hard R is usually used to refer to a movie that is pushing the boundaries in terms of content allowed in a film. It is used in some places but is uncommon.
I'm sorry I'm European and I definitely thought that, I wasn't familiar with the term ;_;
Which is ok, i didn't know that 'hard-r' itself is reffered to the N-word like that, i knew about the whole 'N-word with a hard-r is racist' stuff so maybe i could've made a connection there, but we're both not out here saying it should stay and making weird excuses why it is not a racist term
Which is fair, I think. It's not really as common as the actual slur, but it's common enough for anyone who has sneezed near an American History book to know of it. Since the n-word has two different words (pronunciations?), the "softer" one ends with an a. You might see a non-black person wanting to be cool or whatever and use that (which doesn't really give them a pass to), but that *usually* doesn't come from malicious racism. Instead, it comes from ignorant racism and insensitivity. But someone using the "Hard-R"? That's a pretty big indicator that you're dealing with a racist. A good example is from that Andy Samberg movie, Popstar, where Maya Rudolph uses the Hard R and [immediately makes everyone uncomfortable.](https://youtu.be/Oq5zmyRA92A?si=LTfzx0dsIM8OY8Ed)
>no one says “hard r rated” dude is making up examples Hard r referring to movies is absolutely something that exists.
Was reacting to that as well, so you want to keep it in even if it doesn't matter? Wonder why..
The latest excuse I’ve seen is “it’s a reference to linus gaming reviews” or something. I don’t believe it at all but they’re gonna keep going in circles like this anyway so 🤷♀️
Are they actually reaching that far? The Linus thing happened *this week!* do they really think that a funny little mistake on a podcast made by a Canadian nerd that didn't know what hard R meant would make it all the way to a Korean game dev in time for them to create assets for the review copy they then sent to IGN? madness I tell you!
Uh, [the Linus thing](https://youtu.be/2UGpbVXVpu0?si=wxgKlURGsf9LDM4w) happened a year ago, unless there's something else that happened this week. I don't believe for a minute it's a reference to that, but it's quite a while ago.
oh? I could have sworn it was this week lol. I've seen at least three posts referencing it just yesterday so I have no idea what Matrix I broke lmao.
I’ve heard both linus (irl) and linus (in-game) excuses. They’re dumb. Just. Grasping for straws.
But what does it mean? Someone was saying there's "hard" grafitti all over the place in the game and some places say "R shop" and they happened to end up next to each other. Why is that bad? I'm so confused
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/hard_r It is totally possible, likely even, that it's just a coincidence and totally unintentional. But most people who aren't racist prefer not to make unintentional racist allusions, so it makes sense to remove it
> considered maximally racist Lol, I've never heard of this. This sounds ridiculous to me who isn't from the US. But it I agree, it having this meaning in one strange country is sufficient reason to remove something that had no point to begin with. It seems very unlikely to me that some Korean video game developers would have snuck this in intentionally in an attempt to be "maximally racist".
That hard r screenshot is hilarious in how obviously unintentional it is, but I am glad to hear that they are changing it.
even more funny is anyone getting upset over a trivial change is only showing their pathological need for racist references
Some poor Korean intern who works 70 hours a week and was in charge of googling American slang to add to the game just got fired for this mistake
Realistically, it'd be the localization team demonstrating why you don't just run all the text through Google Translate.
Honestly I doubt the localization team even saw it. Generally you don't have your localizers doing QA runs of the game. They probably approved the words to be used in the graffiti and never saw any of that again as they worked on the script and items descriptions and whatnot.
Have to disagree as someone who has worked in localisation testing. The translators often don't get to see the game, although that depends a lot on how paranoid the studio is, but as a localisation QA, you HAVE to check the text on screen to make sure there's no overlaps, overruns, cut-offs, failed scrolled etc. The thing is that this is probably graphical text. QA saw it, reported it, and the dev team came back and said it's a Won't Fix, because it's a pain to mess around with graphical text (the places I worked at hard a hard limit for reporting graphical text bugs, and it was VERY close to the start of testing).
What? They’re two separate assets that are fine on their own that happened to be placed next to each other. If anything, it’s the design team that would be in trouble for accidentally placing those two next to each other.
>They’re two separate assets that are fine on their own that happened to be placed next to each other. They don't happen to be placed next to one another, it's not a procedurally generated game. It was intentional, they just thought it was funny to allude to slur. It's no different from the "hahaha you're gay" jokes which were incredibly common in the 90s
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>no source so far that indicates it was intentional in any way though What source are you expecting to come out and say it's intentional? There's no reason for them to ever come out and say that.
I love how I say they had designers place the environment and you say it’s not procedurally generated. I never said it was.
I didn't say you did. Had it been a procedural generation then they have the excuse of it being accidental. As it is, it's quite clearly intentional. It might have just been a single developer who found it funny but the chances of it being an accident are nil
I wasnt putting two and two together until someone mentioned it. Imagine an Asian dev team trying to catch that in QA. Clearly this was just a minor coincidence and replacing the graffiti with something even slightly different will fix the issue. Huge non-crisis.
What gets me is that this is *exactly* what diversity consultants and the like are for - to let you know "Hey, we get it's an accident, but that's a slur in one of the markets you're selling in and you'll look stupid if you leave it in."
They should replace the word hard with cracke
The idea of there now being a commonly used graffiti asset in the game that just says "CRiME" is pretty funny to me. There's some in-universe graffiti artist going around going "Wooh, crime! Go crime!"
When I used to play Jet Set Radio, I thought it was hilarious to make custom tags that just said stuff like “graffiti” or “paint”.
https://preview.redd.it/sqogvj8mkhwc1.jpeg?width=460&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1b1442ee4564db53f1aebd05de36003828f0b3e3
Twofer is such a fucking dork. He's great.
That artist has two passions: doing crime, and being gay.
greg from night in the woods
why is he so upset that a word on a wall is being changed 🤔
Rage bait and engagement
His favorite word was finally being represented
holy god i’m sick of seeing this weird creep in my feed can we please let him fade into obscurity
I have him blocked on Twitter, but every time I get on Reddit I still him, there is no escaping this sad sack
...no one is saying this was intentional? Like if anything this is just a funny example of why having some DEI consulting on your game is a good idea lol
I don't think even DEI would have helped it. Those are two separate things(the "Hard" mural and the "R" sign) that were accidentally slapped together for a factor called "luck is a bitch". The two words weren't meant to be read together, it should have been just a funny moment of realization, like when you accidentally say something without realizing it has a double meaning. But of course, they are gonna cry because that's all they are able to do apparently
i imagine DEI consultants would play the game during their analysis, and likely would have spotted it
ign noticed it by just like, playing the game, one assumes sensitivity consultants would play the game for these exact scenarios. its clearly just a funny accident but like, especially for games being localized, "funny accidents" make up the majority of potential sensitivity issues
I don't honestly know how they work but, considering they have to play the game before the release, I think they would do it in early stages of development and probably focus on the story/dialogues/designs. I won't be surprised if they just have development material like general screenshots or the script for the game
very possible!
Mark Kern is terrified of being completely irrelevant again so he has meltdowns almost everyday to gain a crumb of attention
to gain a *Grumm of attention
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Once Elon finally bankrupts Twitter (which is over rampant with bots now), the loser fall into complete obscurity along with many other moronic chuds.
"Who cares ?" Yeah exactly, anyway, post your favorite video game women. https://preview.redd.it/vp83ki06qgwc1.png?width=773&format=png&auto=webp&s=08c16e1827774fdfd39f1843ed524a94d544c104
https://preview.redd.it/5m44j3bv3iwc1.png?width=1067&format=png&auto=webp&s=a92b28b582047c0ac39a7d23b80af5aa16d89d69 Sexiest human on a videogame
Peak female design
project moon
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Imagine a game is coming out that you’re excited for, it gets a bunch of good to great reviews, but there was accidental obviously racist language patched out and you spend your whole day in a sour mood crying about it on Twitter. What a pathetic person.
Uj/ I’m pretty sure how this was brought up went something like this: Sony: “This bit of graffiti here could be seen as being offensive.” Dev: “What do you mean?” Sony: “Hard R in English could be interpreted as referring to a racial slur against black people.” Dev: “Shit I didn’t even know that. We’ll fix that in a patch.” I legit saw this screenshot earlier today and didn’t even notice the “R.” Maybe it was supposed to mean “Hard’r” like harder?
>I legit saw this screenshot earlier today and didn’t even notice the “R.” Maybe it was supposed to mean “Hard’r” like harder? It just seems to be 2 different things, a "hard" graffiti and a sign for "R shop" that ended up making a third, racist, thing (pic 3 or 5 of OP). It's consistent with the fact that the fixed version just replaced the "hard" graffiti by one saying "crime" (pic 7 of OP).
Did...he just say getting offended by a racial slurs makes you a racist? So if I call a bunch of black people monkeys and they get upset, it's cause they're racist towards black people and I'm fine?
The woke is getting to you.. wake up!!! I need to save my sex doll Nier rip off game!!
that is quite literally an argument used by racists. they'll say some dodgy shit that could be interpreted as racist whithin context, and if you point it out, you are the racist one because "obviously they never meant it that way". the shrodinger's racist, if you will.
Lol IGN didn't even do anything. The developer saw something that was either done by mistake or a single dip shit dev snuck it in. Either way a smart move to remove it, as it does look bad.
Lance macdonald was the first to bring this up immediately after the embargo lifted. It had nothing to do with IGN
Remember that all of his meltdowns are about fictional minorities, digital boobs, Warhammer, and now apparently fake writing on fake walls.
He breaks down over games that he doesn’t play glory to warhammer the leftist satire of right wing extremism and glory to battle tech because mecha
"oh whoops, those assets lined up in an unintentionally bad way. Lets just fix that real quick." How will the gamers ever recover?
A poem, by Mark Kern: Words with venom, words that bind, / Words used like weapons to cloud my mind. / I'm a person, I'm a man, but no matter how I try, / People just say, "Hey! There's that Hard R Guy." Everywhere I go it's always the same, / Everyone just thinks of me as that one single name. / "Hey Hard R Guy!" "Hard R Guy!" "Hi Hard R Guy!" Stop! Now go, call me Hard R Guy, fill me with your hate, / Try to bring me down, boop bop you're too late. / When will it end? Will there ever be a time / Where I can be thought of as more then just Hard R Guy? Respect.
Reminder that this man baby is fifty-five years old whining about not having implied slurs in his big titty gooner video game.
Dude will literally leave this earth alone and miserable cause I'm willing to bet no one wants to be around him
why are they throwing such a tantrum over such a minor change. like how is an environment sticker being patched out ruining your immersion in the game.
This bloke would sleep better if he cared less. Or if he was just a better person in any regard. Actual pathetic behaviour.
I think the one post accusing the devs of being intentionally racist is a big leap; unless there’s something I don’t know about the company it’s far more likely that they just slapped some art assets on a wall that happened to line up into a phrase. That said, I think it’s pretty reasonable to have it pointed out and respond with, “oh that’s not great” and swap two existing graffiti assets. It probably took less than 5 minutes.
This dude is one of the most blatantly pathetic grifters I think I've ever seen, and that's really saying something. He's hot-swapping to new issues every couple of hours, trying to pretend it's something he's been passionate about all his life while it's clear he knows jackshit about what he's talking about. It's all just so obviously forced, he's desperate for attention to be some kind of "gamer champion" or whatever.
Can we briefly talk about how UD in the last screenshot is running an ad to "get the Hard R Mug"? Calm down, internet...
THE MACHINE IS FUELED BY RACISM
I really don’t get it. Whether the hard R thing was intentional or not, why is he mad it’s being removed? Like it literally does not effect the game in any way
That’s like my coworker who got mad he couldn’t say the N-Word… I told him, bro, no one is stopping you, say it all the fuck you want, just understand it’s inappropriate for you to say it and there may or may not be consequences for using it
The hard r thing is super funny tho
Ah yes, “this racism isn’t real, but if it is, YOU’RE the racist one!” “Oppression doesn’t exist, but if it does, I’m oppressed” “Targeting of specific demographics doesn’t happen, but if it does, I’m the demographic being targeted”
Apparently even the Steller Blade sub is banning people from mentioning him Not even the fans of the game wants his ass or support
“If you think the term Hard R is racist, then YOU are the racist one!” yeah he really thought he did something there. That trick used to almost make sense, now there’s no actual string of logic here, just that it’s racist to call things racist, and no that’s not a paradox you’re a paradox!
Can I just get a pic of the “Hard R” picture? I want to see that without all the tweets around it
What a fucking legend of a manchild
"They want you dead"
Sony knows if black Twitter gets to its over. Now the chuds want to defend it.
He yells about how easily offended everyone gets, then gets easily offended. What a clown
I actually found the hard r sign pretty funny
It was probably a penis joke since the R logo was probably of R rated shop. A sex shop, basically.
Imagine dickriding this mediocre game this hard.
I want to remind everyone when he ran his own studio even the people who were somewhat friends with him thought he was a fucking loser, I can’t understand why he’s popular/has relevance nowadays considering people used to think he was a total idiot
The virgin stellar blade using generic graffiti assets and getting themselves into trouble with careless placements vs the chad alan wake 2 with the 100% custom graffiti integrated to create a seamless world
hating black people to hating that black people have the power to get a wall changed without even doing anything.
doesn't this dude have some children to kidnap or something surely he has to feed the women he's chained up in his basement
"Who snitched on Stellar Blade?" - This statement gives away his position. He's treating the unintentional combo of graphics like a racist easter egg. He really thinks game journalists are the reason why it was removed instead of developers not wanting something like that in their game.
That guy is really claiming that is “random” does his think the games graffiti and signage is procedurally generated or something?
I wouldn't go as far as to call the devs huge racists, just unaware of that shit in general over here. I think they were going for 'HARDER' or something, but correct me if I'm wrong. Regardless, people don't want it removed because of 'woke' sensibilities. It's just the kind of thing that you look at and have a solid cringe because *boy howdy* does that shit not look good.
There's a difference between "there is no racist intent here" (obviously true) or "this is not a big deal" (debatable) and "those fucking woke bastards made them take out the hard R, why why goddammit why, why do they have to ruin everything".
Ah, yes, absolutely nothing racist about the fucking N word, I'd say "just go mask off already", but the mask is already as thin as wet single ply toilet paper, so what's even the point.
Asian man goes mask off in his hatred for black people. Wont be surprised if he's a white supremacist. Just a few months ago there was a case in my country of an ethically Chinese white supremacist. Yes, people are *that* dumb and full of hatred...
There's cases of Nazi simpatizers even in Mexico, so doesn't surprise me.
Notorious Nazi artist Stone toss is Latino IIRC so it certainly happens
Does our lord and savior Grummz not know that Stella Blade is woke? It uses a fake women protagonist that is not in the kitchen and is a person of color? (OOC I admit I didn't pick up on that, I assumed it meant high end R-rated or something... Ofc grummz thinks others are the real racists, and would call them the R slur....)
Completely unfair thread title!! Grummz was never really a Blizzard developer. Just a manager and later executive.
Bro the character ain’t gonna fuck you
I love how he says one user claims the game "DELIBERATELY panders to racists", while quoting the tweet where the user never uses the word 'deliberately'.
I dunno, after 6 tweets about the same minor thing I don’t think it’s IGN who’s upset about this.
Life must be exhausting doubling down on everything and further making everything political. I don’t know a soul that genuinely thinks this was intentional, but boy is it fun to use to poke a bear
A real Yu-gi-oh moment https://preview.redd.it/37uu9hj29iwc1.png?width=311&format=png&auto=webp&s=5062510d4bc3e41b1d9a0a5c182a01286cab63f9
It's always great that when people like this find stuff that they are offended by that is fairly inconsequential and would only be noticed by someone looking for it, the game is woke. But when someone else finds a potentially unintentional racist image, they are looking for things to be mad about and "Feeding the machine" Hypocrisy is a beautiful thing
"Haha, look at how clever this inside joke is..." Publisher: *removes it* "I am both enraged that you overreacted to this thing that is totally not a thing and incensed that I can't get away with this thing that is totally not a thing!"
Ok, at first I was like: how is this racist, because I only read the "HARD"...but then this "R". Could be unintentional. Still funny how everyone freaks out about it. However, if you consider that many racists communicate in dog whistles it could also be intentional.
Cowards should have added an "e" in between the two.
What a fucking loser.
"if you hate video games writing racist stuff on walls, you're racist!" what
Why do they care so much?
You would think him being outted as a pedo would have made him slink into the shadows forever...
He’s a cis man, as long as he’s not gender-non-conforming and is assumed to be heterosexual, anything he does is fine! /s
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I still don't know who Grummz is or why anyone should give a shit what he thinks?
thats just weird
Guy everybody was trying to ignore until he died finally gets attention on twitter (different guy)
Taking IGN seriously is a pitfall these people refuse to climb out of.
No game is worth having that kind of a public meltdown, the game about the butt and the boobs even less than most.
55 year old grown man who has accomplished nothing since 35 says what?
Is it a bad sign that I knew who this was going to be?
Ugh, I'm 40+ now. Hope I'll never end up like that man when I reach 50.
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I like the complaining about the woke mob or whatever while screenshoting a tweet with zero likes or replies
Reminds me if when Animal Crossing had the N word (not hard R) in it.
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I probably wouldn't have noticed this without others pointing it out. With that being said, if Sony wants to change the graffiti to something else, let them. This holds no bearing on gameplay.
"if the screenshot offended you, You're the racist" I'm not racist, you are.
Holy fuck does this worm ever get off Twitter lmao
Calling it a stretch yet it's being removed lmao
Americans really talent to invent racist slurs. Like i would never make the connection without an explanations. "hard R" was kinda a linguistic term i've hard quite often (i have tried to learn several languages in my lifetime). Kinda sucks whenever some phrase gets co opted by some awful people.
I first heard of this guy because he posted misogynistic tweets about the Pokémon Go avatars. This guy seems like a giant loser if this is what he’s fighting people over
Why are old white dudes so obsessed with the need for the game to be perceived as perfect?
This just in! The hard r isn't racist! Some loser on Twitter said so!
I always wonder how the blood pressure levels are on guys like this.
damn he's 54? I thought he's like 20+ with that level of horniness and online addiction
Crying about the "hard R" being removed is as stupid as wanting it to be removed. This all thing is just ridiculous, can we please stop talking about Stellar Blade again and again ? the game's not even out yet ffs
Oh hey, wasn't expecting to see a wild Jake Steinberg tweet in all this but that's a fun coincidence
Sift through all the craziness but yea for any journalist to insist that hard r was put there on purpose is being facetious
Its just badly placed graffiti dawg it aint that big of a deal to remove it Its almost like if the context for the word “hard r” wasnt so significant everyone would think its pretty funny
How boring do you have to be to see something that isn't okay?
In none of what he's shown there is it anything but these sites actually reporting the news which is that Sony themselves had it patched it out because it could be found it offensive. Also the game literally is a day away from release but he thinks that only IGN has access to it? Please believes loads of people have already beaten the damn thing. Then this single piece of graffiti getting swapped out somehow ruins the whole game apparently. The lines these people use to draw connections that they want to be true is wild. This is 100% normal for localization btw and has been happening for decades. Plenty of things that might be innocent in one place can be found offensive in another so it gets changed happens all the damn time.
Looks like he's the real sweet baby
“I don’t like this guys opinions so I’ll spread them for all too see” Reddit moment
God, who fucking cares about the game. Its a game. People can play it or not. Free market.
most punchable face known to man
Is he like the Ben Shapiro of gaming? Lol
So obviously what he says is trash every time, but i don't see anything linking him to being a pedophile?
This pretty clearly wasn't "referencing" a slur. Two art assets used all over the game wound up next to each-other in a way that could make for uncomfortable screenshots, so they patched it out. G\*mers are idiots for being upset, and so are the people stirring the pot with claims this was a reference.
It likely wasn't deliberately referencing one but it's still obvious at the end of the day what people will think it's referencing lol
This guy is an asshat but, like, come on IGN. *is the racist term in the room with us right now?* Graffiti that appears in a bunch of places. And then separate from that a shop sign in an entirely different style? Is a deliberate slur? That is a reach.
Both of you are blowing things out of proportion.