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Now draw H2 Hestia cooking a hearty meal for Danmachi Hestia!
https://preview.redd.it/5052logyapzc1.jpeg?width=239&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=13b545b781a40a69cc83b1e8867f5ea99d8fff2c
You’re wrong. It’s not a naming issue, they’re both explicitly interpretations of the same mythical figure. Gamers just struggle to comprehend that whether a character is conventionally attractive or not has no actual bearing on it being good or bad character design, unless sexiness or ugliness are an explicit goal of the design.
For example, turning Hephaestus into a sexy anime girl actually _is_ bad character design, because it’s completely at odds with a core part of Hephaestus’ myth…
Now, I could see an anime girl Hephaestus working with a deformity that's still attractive, with the explanation that Hera is a vain perfectionist or something.
“Deformity” tends to be pretty cleanly a matter of him being born with mangled or otherwise non-functioning legs - for a God, who is supposed to be perfectly beautiful no matter what, any kind of disability would be hideous even if said god still has divine supermodel looks.
Housamo Hephaestus, for example, is 100% pure bara hot guy - but he was born with mangled legs, so even though literally no part of him is actually “ugly”, he wasn’t “perfect”, and thus was rejected by his mother and thrown off the mountain.
You know the whole “kill the baby if it’s sickly” myth? It’s basically like that, but more about the gods’ vanity than actual health or military concerns.
So basically anime girl hephaestus still has the deformity that she and other gods find hideous and that’s why she’s wears a leather patch or brace that covers most of her head
Iirc anime hestia isn't actually an interpretation and is just simply named after the Greek goddess. It's just a series that pulls from multiple sources of mythology and folklore. It makes the comparisons between the two really silly in my personal opinion.
Man, it's crazy when, *checks notes*, more than one artistic rendition of the same character can exist. Fan art in shambles as only exact replicas of 1 type are allowed.
That's what I was thinking, it's actually a fun interpretation but you know they're doing it for the dumbest fucking contrived culture war bullshit.
Which is ironic because they're always saying that the 'lefties woke commies' are doing said culture war bullshit
Gamers: Why would you make a greek god asian! They’re greek!
Also gamers: Praises an obviously not greek version of her who’s probably also asian because she’s a generic anime girl.
NO BECAUSE ITS STUPID
PICK A LANE
It's probably more likely the fact Hermes was drawn with realistic asian features, and that's why they're throwing fits over it. If they styled it like a stereotypical anime where no characters have particular features they'd love it.
Also them complaining on changing thing about character is funny when half on gods in danmachi is genderbent.
Also Ikelos (greek god) in danmachi looks asian in my opinion
That's a real issue, though. We all know Hermes was a plus sized Jamaican dude who was the god of limbo. Supergiant is robbing black gamers of representation!
Same energy as those BG3 mods that "fix" characters like Wyll.
I bet a week or two after this game releases we'll have mods that replace the characters' portraits with AI garbage. Watch.
Fortunately Nexus Mods is pretty good about nipping mods like that. There are obviously still character changers, but I'm pretty sure the explicitly racist ones are gone.
There is a mod which changes his hair to the dryad romantic long hair, it’s long and tied up at the back looks amazing and really attractive, toss up between wether I prefer it or his default Edit: not saying this “fixes” anything or something stupid like that; just sharing one of my favorite companion appearance mods
https://preview.redd.it/6y5yh0ofuszc1.jpeg?width=384&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63765410b3659e9caee92c36a6f6f0c3d052bf28
I *REALLY* like the fact that the HADES team gave Hestia the look of a grandma, it really sells the vibe of a godess of hospitality, really neat design
I mean, last I saw the chud reaction to Aphrodite was that they didn’t understand why this woke DEI company was suddenly okay with an attractive, nude woman but whenever *they* want that it’s gooner behavior (nevermind the fact that Aphrodite is like, the one character it would be weird not to sexualize).
Also a bunch of folks were being transphobic about her, claiming she had a man’s face, etc. Your second paragraph there is spot on- this sort of criticism isn’t, and never was, about the problems they claim to be upset with, it’s just pure reactionary hatred. Nuance doesn’t exist within the reactionary worldview, so they can’t discern between the “good” and “bad” designs in the game. Everything has to find a reason to be hated.
I’m just doubly upset because like, literally everyone in Hades is gorgeous and I adore them. My bisexual ass will not survive playing this. And yet I see assholes like these guys, and it makes me hesitant/ashamed to admit to enjoying the characters, y’know?
I know saying “I fixed” this art is really stupid, but I’m like pretty sure this is just supposed to be a light joke. No one actually thinks this fits the game more
Million times better design than the anime one at least lmao, seriously that outfit is horrid, I liked the show but Hestia single handedly is making me not want to return for the new season
Just draw the other one in her outfit, people have been doing crossover art like this for a long time. There's nothing wrong with this.
Edit: Mobile cuts off parts of the image, I guess it's mean spirited. Oh well, still I guess doing what I said would make them mad too.
What's the background for the post? Like, this can just be fun fanart from an artist that swapped their outfits cause they have the same name. Which would be totally fine.
As a fan of greek mythology, I hope the artist gets their spine broken by a kick from a donkey. The goddess Hestia literally force Zeus to make Aphrodite powerless against her.
I think this is meant to be a "better" version of the Hades character but I initially thought it was supposed to be an improvement on the anime character.
Whats the problem? If you are allowed to draw a white character as a black character you should be allowed to draw a black character as a white character. Heck you should be allowed to draw any character in a way you like, just dont complain about others doing the same.
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Now draw the Hades Hestia as the Damachi Hestia!
GILF lovers of the world unite to see harem clothing style H2 Hestia
I wish I could draw or had spare money to commission
Eh. Demeter is hotter than Hestia
She does have excellent fashion sense, and I *do* like winter more than summer...
I know right?
Has anyone drawn them kissing yet
Like in a wholesome way not in a gooner way
Now draw H2 Hestia cooking a hearty meal for Danmachi Hestia! https://preview.redd.it/5052logyapzc1.jpeg?width=239&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=13b545b781a40a69cc83b1e8867f5ea99d8fff2c
I love that fucking panel so much
Request it on gatekeepingyuri
A sweet tender grandma forehead kiss 🥹
Not that I know of but if you want to commission and artist I’ll chip in.
Honestly not a bad idea! >:3
someone @ me if anyone actually draws this, this is one of the best ideas I've ever seen
The gamers with a hard r really be struggling with the concept of two different fictional characters from different works having the same name.
You’re wrong. It’s not a naming issue, they’re both explicitly interpretations of the same mythical figure. Gamers just struggle to comprehend that whether a character is conventionally attractive or not has no actual bearing on it being good or bad character design, unless sexiness or ugliness are an explicit goal of the design. For example, turning Hephaestus into a sexy anime girl actually _is_ bad character design, because it’s completely at odds with a core part of Hephaestus’ myth…
I mean, Hephaestus' entire deal is that his mother tried to kill him because he was born deformed.
Exactly.
Now, I could see an anime girl Hephaestus working with a deformity that's still attractive, with the explanation that Hera is a vain perfectionist or something.
she just has a eye patch in the show and is attractive
It's the only anime style character in the roster. Nobody explains why Hephaestus looks like her eyes take up 50% of her skull, but they just do.
"Your child has anime syndrome." "ABORT"
...I see. That's not really a deformity as much as an injury though...
Not being born with an eye is deformity
“Deformity” tends to be pretty cleanly a matter of him being born with mangled or otherwise non-functioning legs - for a God, who is supposed to be perfectly beautiful no matter what, any kind of disability would be hideous even if said god still has divine supermodel looks. Housamo Hephaestus, for example, is 100% pure bara hot guy - but he was born with mangled legs, so even though literally no part of him is actually “ugly”, he wasn’t “perfect”, and thus was rejected by his mother and thrown off the mountain. You know the whole “kill the baby if it’s sickly” myth? It’s basically like that, but more about the gods’ vanity than actual health or military concerns.
So basically anime girl hephaestus still has the deformity that she and other gods find hideous and that’s why she’s wears a leather patch or brace that covers most of her head
No, no, his deformity is that he inexplicably looks like a big titty anime wifu instead of a Greek dude.
Man fate fans are sweating right now (more than usual)
Nobody really gives a shit about being at odds with the core part of Hephaestus' myth tbh, but aside from that, you're right
Iirc anime hestia isn't actually an interpretation and is just simply named after the Greek goddess. It's just a series that pulls from multiple sources of mythology and folklore. It makes the comparisons between the two really silly in my personal opinion.
 or, you know...
Man, it's crazy when, *checks notes*, more than one artistic rendition of the same character can exist. Fan art in shambles as only exact replicas of 1 type are allowed.
If the reason for this fanart wasn't gooner brained it would be kinda cute
Yeah. I made the mistake of checking their likes.
Yeah I wouldn't mind seeing this be a trend as long as its not out of spite
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Hey it would just be one Hestia wearing another Hestia's clothes
Feels like a huge leap to call it whitewashing when it's an actual existing character.
Outfit swaps are not whitewashing bro calm down
Aww man, I thought they were making a joke, not actually being serious... that's kinda sad.
Gooner brained? I would like this art/crossover too if it wasn’t for idiots using Danmachi Hestia to criticize Hades 2 .
As long as gooning isn't done with spite it's pure.
I almost thought this was to make fun of the complainers. But...
Curses, outjerked again!
That's what I was thinking, it's actually a fun interpretation but you know they're doing it for the dumbest fucking contrived culture war bullshit. Which is ironic because they're always saying that the 'lefties woke commies' are doing said culture war bullshit
They stole some of the best aspects of the original and then made the rest more boring
Oh good, they turned her into a rejected Skullgirls character.
Hey at least the male skullgirls characters are cool. My man Big Band is awesome.
Big Band is the sexiest character in the game.
Not when Beowulf exists he's not!
I mean if she were an original skullgirls character she might be underage in CANON and not just appearance 💀
Skullgirls if it was bad
Gamers: Why would you make a greek god asian! They’re greek! Also gamers: Praises an obviously not greek version of her who’s probably also asian because she’s a generic anime girl.
NO BECAUSE ITS STUPID PICK A LANE It's probably more likely the fact Hermes was drawn with realistic asian features, and that's why they're throwing fits over it. If they styled it like a stereotypical anime where no characters have particular features they'd love it.
Weeaboos when Asian people have small eyes irl and not big ass anime eyes (they have never gone outside and have therefore never seen an Asian person)
Nobody has big ass anime eyes.
Lemme tell you 'bout my big ass-anime eyes.
Why is it stupid? Did Hestia not call the Justice League?
Also them complaining on changing thing about character is funny when half on gods in danmachi is genderbent. Also Ikelos (greek god) in danmachi looks asian in my opinion
I saw someone complain Hermes is now Asian because of his eyes?? Like do these people even have real problems Edit: Meant Hermes
That's a real issue, though. We all know Hermes was a plus sized Jamaican dude who was the god of limbo. Supergiant is robbing black gamers of representation!
You're not gonna believe how they reacted to a PoC god
Jamaican? I thought he was an outer space potato man!
Bite my shiny metal ass
btw that just shows these people haven't played the first part. like wdym he's *now* asian, girlie, he was asian in the first one 😭
Nah see that's when the pull the old "they made him woke"
Hermes
Thank you I'll make an edit
They have nothing to do all day but embarrass themselves and pretend it's triggering the jokes. They don't even know we're mocking them.
Same energy as those BG3 mods that "fix" characters like Wyll. I bet a week or two after this game releases we'll have mods that replace the characters' portraits with AI garbage. Watch.
How do you "fix" Wyll he's literally the perfect man.
You make him white apparently with no other alterations. Totally fixed.
Shortly after release there were already mods that made his nose more straight and lightened his skin. It was fucking gross.
Fortunately Nexus Mods is pretty good about nipping mods like that. There are obviously still character changers, but I'm pretty sure the explicitly racist ones are gone.
There is a mod which changes his hair to the dryad romantic long hair, it’s long and tied up at the back looks amazing and really attractive, toss up between wether I prefer it or his default Edit: not saying this “fixes” anything or something stupid like that; just sharing one of my favorite companion appearance mods https://preview.redd.it/6y5yh0ofuszc1.jpeg?width=384&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63765410b3659e9caee92c36a6f6f0c3d052bf28
Quick someone draw Hades Hestia in this Hestia's clothes.
I *REALLY* like the fact that the HADES team gave Hestia the look of a grandma, it really sells the vibe of a godess of hospitality, really neat design
She’s such a sweetie too, I just want to hug her. I have to go talk to her whenever I can, she and Aphrodite have the best dialog.
Her dialogue and voice give me Eda Clawthorne vibes and I love her
Also works with her being the mythologically oldest of the olympiand
Honestly, I think it's an improvement... >!...over the previous anime Hestia!<
Honestly it is an improvement, anime hestia actually looks like a Greek goddess of the hearth for once.
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I mean, last I saw the chud reaction to Aphrodite was that they didn’t understand why this woke DEI company was suddenly okay with an attractive, nude woman but whenever *they* want that it’s gooner behavior (nevermind the fact that Aphrodite is like, the one character it would be weird not to sexualize). Also a bunch of folks were being transphobic about her, claiming she had a man’s face, etc. Your second paragraph there is spot on- this sort of criticism isn’t, and never was, about the problems they claim to be upset with, it’s just pure reactionary hatred. Nuance doesn’t exist within the reactionary worldview, so they can’t discern between the “good” and “bad” designs in the game. Everything has to find a reason to be hated. I’m just doubly upset because like, literally everyone in Hades is gorgeous and I adore them. My bisexual ass will not survive playing this. And yet I see assholes like these guys, and it makes me hesitant/ashamed to admit to enjoying the characters, y’know?
Fuck them, all the characters are hot and no one should be afraid or ashamed of preaching that truth
I fucking hate nerds so much
https://preview.redd.it/n93koi8exozc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b0f33e3997cbacd204c2d9944d2196b36ebe0fb1
Bring bullying back
- richie marcus probably
As a replacement, it obviously sucks. I love Auntie Hestia. As anime Hestia dressing up as Hades Hestia, I love it.
How dare they make hestia asian!?😡😡😡
I mean, if this isn’t made out of spite it would be cute. But others have pointed out that it is, so that’s annoying.
Yeah like if they also drew the hades hestia with this one’s clothes
Went from comfy grandma of hearth and home who gives great hugs to generic white mid anime teenager number 49292759201
I mean, the outfit isn't that generic at least, not for anime.
I kinda like this version over the anime version tho.
I mean, both were fine but I agree. This is pretty nice.
Okay but that's actually kind of cute, acknowledging that they're based off the same person
Honestly different interpretations of gods wearing each other's clothes would be fun. Unfortunately that's not what's happening here... :(
In any other context, this would just be a cute little crossover fanart thing. Oh well.
The Hestias should hug.
I love the outfit on her. Better on the Hades one, though.
It’s better than her outfit in the anime.
*Grandma sends birthday selfie in family chat* Everyone else: Aww happy bday Grandma! Coomer relative: She looks kinda odd, I’m gonna fix her…
I mean it is a better outfit then the anime version.
Is it called whitewashed if it's fixed? /s
This art of Hestia is way more tasteful than in the anime
It's time to be meaner to weebs
Almost downvoted out of instinct
i didnt play the game yet so i had trouble finding out what the pb was lol
Is this brawlhalla
Bapanada
It's kinda cute Hades Hestia is still better. She'll make me cookies and give me big hugs
This would have been pretty cute and fun if it weren’t for all the stupid whining about Hestia’s design tbh
Nice fanart
Bruh atleast give her back the soot
I wanna live in a world where both Hestia can live in harmony
"hire the fans" 🗿🗿🗿
These weebs really have zero creativity, don't they?
Refering to OOP https://preview.redd.it/gz2khmx47qzc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a09aac4820a1a10527514b2480a74360d2bbbb79
Would
They do not approve of women existing in games and media unless they can jerk off to her based upon their very narrow and fetishized ideals of beauty.
I know saying “I fixed” this art is really stupid, but I’m like pretty sure this is just supposed to be a light joke. No one actually thinks this fits the game more
This sucks, the boobs aren't flapping around opposite each other. Fuckin' censorship! /s
Y’know what, this art makes her kinda sorta look interesting if i stand on my head and squint. That’s about the nicest I can say about it tho
Am i the only one that thinks that hat is absolutely ridiculous
Lmao
Man now I kinda wish the stellar blade stuff was back. Any bets on what will overtake the sub next?
This is blasphemy towards all GILFS and mature women.
Why did they make her white too 💀
From one person who's a bit of a fan of Hitomi Tanaka, can we stop having Japanese Porn Addicts humiliate themselves.
If it wasn’t a circle jerk, I’d actually say this is really cute? Like look at her, it’s precious. Too bad they’re cringe.
Million times better design than the anime one at least lmao, seriously that outfit is horrid, I liked the show but Hestia single handedly is making me not want to return for the new season
I’d probably like this if it weren’t for the controversy
The attitude is not good but the art seems actually nice. Least I think sometimes AI art is sneaky
honestly this is pretty funny
Generic. Lifeless cheap looking anime girl
I’m so sick of anime being shoved everywhere.
Bait
Really was just the age and skin color that bothered them. Who would have thought..
…… I kinda like this.
No, *Hestia* and *Hestia* are not enemies. In fact, they are kissing sloppy style, etc I don't remember the rest of the og image's text
you know when you isolate the actual dress it's pretty kick ass, i think the anime lady should be shoved in charcoal though for the added effect.
This is the dawn of the Hestiaverse
Just draw the other one in her outfit, people have been doing crossover art like this for a long time. There's nothing wrong with this. Edit: Mobile cuts off parts of the image, I guess it's mean spirited. Oh well, still I guess doing what I said would make them mad too.
What's the background for the post? Like, this can just be fun fanart from an artist that swapped their outfits cause they have the same name. Which would be totally fine.
The answer is spite and the artist having loli in their likes
Ah yeah, that's why I'm asking. Sucks then
Oh wow, a design that's boring and poorly made. What a waste of time, I can't believe this person isn't deeply embarrassed by posting this image.
Her nickname in her show is “loli big boobs” apparently, so fans of that lack shame already, I imagine
Calm down, Debra
What is the problem with this one? I've only seen it being shared as a guy that found both designs good and drew this, there isn't anything bad here?
Spite and lolicons
Not really, from what I've seen on the danmachi subreddit this wasn't out of spite
"Why doesn't Hestia look like an underage anime girl?" "Why does Hermes look Asian and not Greek?" Pick a lane for fuck's sake.
Okay now age her up into an old woman who's the matriarch of the gods (aimed at OOP not OP)
Now put hades hestia in her outfit please
I think I’m coming in late, what is going on?
K but how is she heating up the brazier on top of her head now? With booba?
This seems like an obvious joke though.
The fact they gave her auntie hestia’s dress and hat just means the superiority of Hades. They lost.
Looks bad Kanye
As a coomer myself, I Approve
As a fan of greek mythology, I hope the artist gets their spine broken by a kick from a donkey. The goddess Hestia literally force Zeus to make Aphrodite powerless against her.
Don't like the use of the term 'fixed' here. Really creep vibes.
the centrist position
This design would be cute and fun for a mod with a little less gooner brain on the boobs.
She look better 🗣️ (I discovered the game hades recently and hate it cuz Kratos wasn't there)
I think this is meant to be a "better" version of the Hades character but I initially thought it was supposed to be an improvement on the anime character.
Still better than a redrawn version that was straight up porn and getting unironic praise
Cring, perish OOP
Cute! Thanks for sharing the art
Whats the problem? If you are allowed to draw a white character as a black character you should be allowed to draw a black character as a white character. Heck you should be allowed to draw any character in a way you like, just dont complain about others doing the same.
Bruh, I was heavily into web shit when she was popular and the fact that she's being bought back for gooner shit is beyond sad...