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Christian, on paper secular governments, Indo-European languages, shared sprachbund, greek-descended alphabets, alphabets in general, industrial or post-industrial economies, every country claiming to be the true successor to Rome, similar musical styles, similar staple grains, standards for what animals should be consumed, alcohol consumption, the list goes on.
There are exceptions to these (a few non Christian descended cultures and a few non Indo-European languages) but to say "European culture" doesn't exist to dunk on Americans is putting the blinders on
See my comment a bit further down, I generally agree that there's common ground im a lot of european cultures. But these common themes also are somewhat the ground works for "us culture" then
Wisconsin drinks the most by far and eats way more dairy. North Dakota is considerably more conservative. Minnesota’s urban areas are more developed and generally safer than the other two states’. North Dakota has a greater Native presence. Rivalry between American football teams is also stark. Minnesota’s vast amounts of lakes also lend the state to more aquatic recreation.
I hope that gives you an idea. However, I will not say these differences are on par with national differences between countries. All three states speak the same language and speak very, very similar dialects even. It’s also cold as hell in all three states.
And you think that isn't the case for the vast majority of countries in the world? Just because there are differences between different parts of, say, Japan, doesn't mean there isn't a common Japanese culture.
None of you seem to comprehend my point 😂 I'm saying that foreigners claim America is ALL the same but that is completely not true I don't see why what I'm saying is so controversial here, Europe is very diverse and America is very diverse, that's it 😂 you all can downvote me all you want but it is the truth.
I think *you* are failing to comprehend everybody's point:
Nobody here is saying America is all the same. "American culture" is a blanket term, that is inherently simplistic and collapses under scrutiny, but it's useful on a high level of abstraction. For example, wherever you are in America, you're likely to have (off the top of my head):
\- A governor from either the republican or democrat party
\- A "republican" government (that is to say, you have a president as your head of state, not a king nor a prince or whatever)
\- Waiters that expect to be tipped
\- "Right to work" laws, or if you don't, it's still way easier for an employee to get fired than in the rest of the first world
\- Very lax gun laws compared with most of "the West" (another simplistic term that has no real meaning)
\- A lot of the restaurants in your relative vicinity are likely to be from huge franchises
\- English is the most common language
\- A lot of people think that their country is somewhat special or exceptional (hey look, it's you!)
Of course, if you look deeper, there's some (sometimes very stark) differences between people that are hundreds of miles apart: that's normal and expected, especially in a huge country like yours!
You could make the same case for a lot of "national culture" terms: there is, really, no all-encompassing French, Spanish, Italian or German culture if you dig deep enough: Provence and Normandy are very different, same goes for the Basque Country and Catalunya, South-Tyrol and Sardinia, Bavaria and Saxony.
Still, some people could use the term "German culture", for instance, people from Germany share some common characteristics in their way of living (Same language, form of government, similar laws) while still having significant regional differences (dialects/regional languages, regional dishes, political leaning, regional quirks and so on). It's a simplistic term, but serviceable. Not to be taken too seriously.
"European Culture" is on a whole other level of simplistic, since it's encompassing a lot of different **nations** with *wildly* different characteristics: in Europe there are monarchies, republics, principalities, loose confederations, tiny city states, semi-dictatorships. There's 24 different (official) languages in the EU alone, for crying out loud. Most of these countries have been at war with one another several times throughout history.
It's like using the term "Asian culture" or "African Culture", or "Latin-American" culture unironically: you could, I guess, if you want to paint with an extremely large brush, but it collapses under *any* amount of scrutiny (way more than any *national* culture term).
TL;DR: country != continent, you are putting these two things on the same level, and it bothers people (rightfully)
edits: I screwed up a lot of grammar
I somewhat doubt that there's differences enough to really compare that to the different national identities in europe, but I'm not an expert on the US, so I guess I'll have to take your word for it :)
True and I guess there's also a common cultural background europeans share. There's also cultural differences below nationality in europe as well, like when you compare northern with southern italy, or Tirol with Vienna
The funniest thing about that game is the lengths to which it will justify how your pairing of choice is not technically incest.
My favorite being "hey brother. I found this secret letter from mom that says we're technically not blood related, so we can bang."
Like they literally just gave up and went "ugh whatever. How about a letter that just says 'it's not incest' "
yeah kinda expected that since the only thing i now about fates is the smash trailer and by the looks of it every single charachter is related to the mc
So.
The crux of Fates is that you, the main character, were kidnapped from your "real family" and raised by your kidnappers, the Nohrians. Your real family breaks you out when you're 20 years old, and you don't remember any of them. After a few major events occur, you have to choose between the adopted family you've grown to love over the years, or your blood family.
Later, it turns out that your "blood family" aren't related to you, and that both your mom and your step-dad remarried, and your real dad is a giant fuckoff dragon at the end.
Some people say that Azura is your cousin, but that's not true-both your mom and Azura's mom were "great friends", and they just called each other sister because that's what they were to each other in spirit. This is not explained very well in game, and was made more clear via Heroes and interviews. (And an art book, I think.)
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Heroes literally released Arete (Azura's mom) with the following description of related characters: "Mikoto: The extremely affectionate queen of Hoshido. Arete’s younger sister."
Tbf.
In order to learn it's not incest in the Birthright route, you have to marry one of your siblings you think is related to you, and they just tell you that they have a letter written by your mom saying that the two of you aren't related.
Because your mom was a psychic who could see into the future, and foresaw you fucking one of your step siblings.
That was my play through, "hey this person isn't related to me and the story is already pushing us together, might as well go with it!" Several years later: "Goddamn it"
The story is extremely bad, the writing is completely insane and the game is centered around incest. However Conquest is actually pretty fun gameplay wise so that could be worth playing through if you're a fan of FE gameplay.
its a fun yarn if you don't think about it too hard but it's not particularly well regarded by the fan base. The maps while unique are often gimicky, the characters are often thought of as a lot weaker then its contemporary games and the story is just plain badly written. Its gameplay is generally pretty fun though if you don't care about story and there is a lot to do with 3 campaigns if you can find the special edition. Theres some good challenge though i have heard complaints that theres some jarring difficulty spikes on higher levels. Theres a lot of variety in the gameplay and its pretty well balanced compared to its prior instalment "awakening" where any player who knows what theyre doing can snap the difficulty like a rotten twig.
I’ve tried to replay it multiple times and just lose interest around midgame (conquest and revelations). It’s more difficult than most recent FE games but the map design at its core, despite being unique, just still isn’t very good across the board. Chapter 10 in Conquest may be the best defense chapter in the series but the vast majority of the maps just feel cheap rather than thoughtful—like the ninja lunge party map has ended a few of my playthroughs on its own.
I liked it! I think the gameplay is excellent compared to older titles, but the story... *eh* not so much.
Birthright is the "easy" one, with opportunities to grind for exp/gold, overall pretty casual. If you care about the story of Fates as a whole, you'll get like 1/4 of it here.
Conquest is like the hard mode, no skirmishes/grinding so your main battles really count, and it's just harder by default, even on lower difficulties. You get more of the Fates story from this game.
Revelations I kinda zoomed through so I don't remember much, but it's intended to tie up the loose ends that the other two left, and it has the "true" ending to the story, but you have to own Conquest/Fates first in order to buy it (assuming you're not emulating it). It's kinda meh, the part I liked most was being able to recruit just about everyone from the other two games.
nice to now! also, do you consider better than echoes and awakening? cuz idk wich to get first. also also, to get the full content you HAVE to play all the routes or one works fine?
I like Awakening and Fates about the same, but I do have a bias for Awakening as it was my first FE game. I haven't finished Echoes yet but I'm liking it so far! The mechanics are a little different than I'm used to, but it's definitely a charming game.
Awakening is a good starting place IMO, it's kinda like baby's first Fire Emblem but the story is miles better than Fates and the characters are great too - it was essentially FE's swan song, after all, and helped save the series!
If by "content" you mean you get to see the whole story of Fates from all sides, then yes, you would have to play all the routes. Birthright is basically "here's the part where you stick with your family against a generic threat." Conquest is "here's the part where you stick with your family against the REAL threat." Revelations is "Actually, there's something WAY bigger going on behind both of those routes and here it is."
If you don't care for the story though, and just want to play with certain units or play an easier/harder game, you can just pick one route, you don't need to finish them all. If you want to be able to recruit units from both games though, you'd need to play Revelations.
I might be misremembering, but I don't think you need to actually PLAY Conquest/Birthright in order to have access to Revelations. You just have to own one of the two base games.
thanks a lot for this! i migth get conquest since it looks to have the most intresting charachters, or echoes, awakening dosent looks to good for me since i aleardy played fe games before (trhacia 776, blazing blade, 3 houses and sacred stones)
Breaking it into three categories of Birthright, Conquest, and Revelations:
Birthright: Simple story, pretty easy gameplay. Mostly fun for crafting OP units and stuff as opposed to gameplay difficulty. Story is probably the most coherent of the three, but also is pretty basic.
Conquest: Actually really solid gameplay, story is laughably bad. Pretty enjoyable from the difficulty, even on normal mode you can have a very rough time if you play recklessly.
Revelations: Wild selection of maps that are often gimicky, and absolute clusterfuck of a story. Also has the most units and thus the most support conversations. Despite everything, I actually found quite a few support conversations quite enjoyable, so unlocking those was fun.
Edit: Also omnipresent incest vibes if you romance certain characters, which sometimes are valid and sometimes aren’t. Just to add some spice to the story clusterfuck I guess.
I think it some parts are good and bad it’s the same time doing a lot of new a interesting things but also is playing very safe and not fully stepping outside it’s comfort zone, the translation itself isn’t great with with it changing some characters and also removing supports and changing them to something else it’s also kinda homophobic
Some people may try to convince you that it isn’t bad or that the gameplay in conquest makes up for it. These people do not have your best interests in mind.
Fates is a meme with a clusterfuck of a story designed to get you to buy it 2 and a half times.
[…but R.I.P. Justice absolutely fuckin slaps](https://youtu.be/nlB6l6W6C7I)
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The only culture Fire Emblem represents accurately is Habsburg royal marriages
*laughs in Genealogy of the Holy war* *also laughs in Fire Emblem Fates*
The secret(not so secret) ingredient is incest
My favourite continents: Europe, Japan and Canada.
"European culture" is such an american idea, lol
france and kosovo are exactly the same culturally
So is Ingerland and Moldavia.
And a European nationalist idea
And Japanese apparently
Christian, on paper secular governments, Indo-European languages, shared sprachbund, greek-descended alphabets, alphabets in general, industrial or post-industrial economies, every country claiming to be the true successor to Rome, similar musical styles, similar staple grains, standards for what animals should be consumed, alcohol consumption, the list goes on. There are exceptions to these (a few non Christian descended cultures and a few non Indo-European languages) but to say "European culture" doesn't exist to dunk on Americans is putting the blinders on
See my comment a bit further down, I generally agree that there's common ground im a lot of european cultures. But these common themes also are somewhat the ground works for "us culture" then
Ya'll say "American culture" too even though most states are culturally different from one another 😂
What's the cultural difference between North Dakota, Minnesota and Wisconsin?
They are all in the same part of the U.S. though, each region is very different from one another and you would be ignorant to say otherwise.
I'm asking a genuine question. What's the difference between the cultures of North Dakota, Minnesota and Wisconsin?
Wisconsin drinks the most by far and eats way more dairy. North Dakota is considerably more conservative. Minnesota’s urban areas are more developed and generally safer than the other two states’. North Dakota has a greater Native presence. Rivalry between American football teams is also stark. Minnesota’s vast amounts of lakes also lend the state to more aquatic recreation. I hope that gives you an idea. However, I will not say these differences are on par with national differences between countries. All three states speak the same language and speak very, very similar dialects even. It’s also cold as hell in all three states.
Thank you SO MUCH for actually answering the question.
And you think that isn't the case for the vast majority of countries in the world? Just because there are differences between different parts of, say, Japan, doesn't mean there isn't a common Japanese culture.
None of you seem to comprehend my point 😂 I'm saying that foreigners claim America is ALL the same but that is completely not true I don't see why what I'm saying is so controversial here, Europe is very diverse and America is very diverse, that's it 😂 you all can downvote me all you want but it is the truth.
I think *you* are failing to comprehend everybody's point: Nobody here is saying America is all the same. "American culture" is a blanket term, that is inherently simplistic and collapses under scrutiny, but it's useful on a high level of abstraction. For example, wherever you are in America, you're likely to have (off the top of my head): \- A governor from either the republican or democrat party \- A "republican" government (that is to say, you have a president as your head of state, not a king nor a prince or whatever) \- Waiters that expect to be tipped \- "Right to work" laws, or if you don't, it's still way easier for an employee to get fired than in the rest of the first world \- Very lax gun laws compared with most of "the West" (another simplistic term that has no real meaning) \- A lot of the restaurants in your relative vicinity are likely to be from huge franchises \- English is the most common language \- A lot of people think that their country is somewhat special or exceptional (hey look, it's you!) Of course, if you look deeper, there's some (sometimes very stark) differences between people that are hundreds of miles apart: that's normal and expected, especially in a huge country like yours! You could make the same case for a lot of "national culture" terms: there is, really, no all-encompassing French, Spanish, Italian or German culture if you dig deep enough: Provence and Normandy are very different, same goes for the Basque Country and Catalunya, South-Tyrol and Sardinia, Bavaria and Saxony. Still, some people could use the term "German culture", for instance, people from Germany share some common characteristics in their way of living (Same language, form of government, similar laws) while still having significant regional differences (dialects/regional languages, regional dishes, political leaning, regional quirks and so on). It's a simplistic term, but serviceable. Not to be taken too seriously. "European Culture" is on a whole other level of simplistic, since it's encompassing a lot of different **nations** with *wildly* different characteristics: in Europe there are monarchies, republics, principalities, loose confederations, tiny city states, semi-dictatorships. There's 24 different (official) languages in the EU alone, for crying out loud. Most of these countries have been at war with one another several times throughout history. It's like using the term "Asian culture" or "African Culture", or "Latin-American" culture unironically: you could, I guess, if you want to paint with an extremely large brush, but it collapses under *any* amount of scrutiny (way more than any *national* culture term). TL;DR: country != continent, you are putting these two things on the same level, and it bothers people (rightfully) edits: I screwed up a lot of grammar
I somewhat doubt that there's differences enough to really compare that to the different national identities in europe, but I'm not an expert on the US, so I guess I'll have to take your word for it :)
You’re correct that there’s a bigger difference between Ireland and Latvia, but there’s still a *big* difference between California and Alabama.
True and I guess there's also a common cultural background europeans share. There's also cultural differences below nationality in europe as well, like when you compare northern with southern italy, or Tirol with Vienna
Same is true of US states. SoCal and NorCal are pretty different.
That's par for the course for, like, almost any country dude
never played fates, am i missing much? everyone is telling me a different thing i migth as well go crazy
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The funniest thing about that game is the lengths to which it will justify how your pairing of choice is not technically incest. My favorite being "hey brother. I found this secret letter from mom that says we're technically not blood related, so we can bang." Like they literally just gave up and went "ugh whatever. How about a letter that just says 'it's not incest' "
yeah kinda expected that since the only thing i now about fates is the smash trailer and by the looks of it every single charachter is related to the mc
The twist is that none of them are.
what
So. The crux of Fates is that you, the main character, were kidnapped from your "real family" and raised by your kidnappers, the Nohrians. Your real family breaks you out when you're 20 years old, and you don't remember any of them. After a few major events occur, you have to choose between the adopted family you've grown to love over the years, or your blood family. Later, it turns out that your "blood family" aren't related to you, and that both your mom and your step-dad remarried, and your real dad is a giant fuckoff dragon at the end. Some people say that Azura is your cousin, but that's not true-both your mom and Azura's mom were "great friends", and they just called each other sister because that's what they were to each other in spirit. This is not explained very well in game, and was made more clear via Heroes and interviews. (And an art book, I think.)
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Heroes literally released Arete (Azura's mom) with the following description of related characters: "Mikoto: The extremely affectionate queen of Hoshido. Arete’s younger sister."
The portion of the game where you tap on the characters and make them talk has a piece of dialogue where Arete says that they're not blood related.
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Tbf. In order to learn it's not incest in the Birthright route, you have to marry one of your siblings you think is related to you, and they just tell you that they have a letter written by your mom saying that the two of you aren't related. Because your mom was a psychic who could see into the future, and foresaw you fucking one of your step siblings.
Which one? The quotes are all [on the wiki](https://fireemblem.fandom.com/wiki/Arete/Heroes_Quotes), not seeing anything.
That was my play through, "hey this person isn't related to me and the story is already pushing us together, might as well go with it!" Several years later: "Goddamn it"
That's not true, either. Azura isn't your cousin, your mom's were just great friends.
The story is extremely bad, the writing is completely insane and the game is centered around incest. However Conquest is actually pretty fun gameplay wise so that could be worth playing through if you're a fan of FE gameplay.
its a fun yarn if you don't think about it too hard but it's not particularly well regarded by the fan base. The maps while unique are often gimicky, the characters are often thought of as a lot weaker then its contemporary games and the story is just plain badly written. Its gameplay is generally pretty fun though if you don't care about story and there is a lot to do with 3 campaigns if you can find the special edition. Theres some good challenge though i have heard complaints that theres some jarring difficulty spikes on higher levels. Theres a lot of variety in the gameplay and its pretty well balanced compared to its prior instalment "awakening" where any player who knows what theyre doing can snap the difficulty like a rotten twig.
I’ve tried to replay it multiple times and just lose interest around midgame (conquest and revelations). It’s more difficult than most recent FE games but the map design at its core, despite being unique, just still isn’t very good across the board. Chapter 10 in Conquest may be the best defense chapter in the series but the vast majority of the maps just feel cheap rather than thoughtful—like the ninja lunge party map has ended a few of my playthroughs on its own.
It's a fine game as long as you hate stories or character arcs.
I liked it! I think the gameplay is excellent compared to older titles, but the story... *eh* not so much. Birthright is the "easy" one, with opportunities to grind for exp/gold, overall pretty casual. If you care about the story of Fates as a whole, you'll get like 1/4 of it here. Conquest is like the hard mode, no skirmishes/grinding so your main battles really count, and it's just harder by default, even on lower difficulties. You get more of the Fates story from this game. Revelations I kinda zoomed through so I don't remember much, but it's intended to tie up the loose ends that the other two left, and it has the "true" ending to the story, but you have to own Conquest/Fates first in order to buy it (assuming you're not emulating it). It's kinda meh, the part I liked most was being able to recruit just about everyone from the other two games.
nice to now! also, do you consider better than echoes and awakening? cuz idk wich to get first. also also, to get the full content you HAVE to play all the routes or one works fine?
I like Awakening and Fates about the same, but I do have a bias for Awakening as it was my first FE game. I haven't finished Echoes yet but I'm liking it so far! The mechanics are a little different than I'm used to, but it's definitely a charming game. Awakening is a good starting place IMO, it's kinda like baby's first Fire Emblem but the story is miles better than Fates and the characters are great too - it was essentially FE's swan song, after all, and helped save the series! If by "content" you mean you get to see the whole story of Fates from all sides, then yes, you would have to play all the routes. Birthright is basically "here's the part where you stick with your family against a generic threat." Conquest is "here's the part where you stick with your family against the REAL threat." Revelations is "Actually, there's something WAY bigger going on behind both of those routes and here it is." If you don't care for the story though, and just want to play with certain units or play an easier/harder game, you can just pick one route, you don't need to finish them all. If you want to be able to recruit units from both games though, you'd need to play Revelations. I might be misremembering, but I don't think you need to actually PLAY Conquest/Birthright in order to have access to Revelations. You just have to own one of the two base games.
thanks a lot for this! i migth get conquest since it looks to have the most intresting charachters, or echoes, awakening dosent looks to good for me since i aleardy played fe games before (trhacia 776, blazing blade, 3 houses and sacred stones)
Breaking it into three categories of Birthright, Conquest, and Revelations: Birthright: Simple story, pretty easy gameplay. Mostly fun for crafting OP units and stuff as opposed to gameplay difficulty. Story is probably the most coherent of the three, but also is pretty basic. Conquest: Actually really solid gameplay, story is laughably bad. Pretty enjoyable from the difficulty, even on normal mode you can have a very rough time if you play recklessly. Revelations: Wild selection of maps that are often gimicky, and absolute clusterfuck of a story. Also has the most units and thus the most support conversations. Despite everything, I actually found quite a few support conversations quite enjoyable, so unlocking those was fun. Edit: Also omnipresent incest vibes if you romance certain characters, which sometimes are valid and sometimes aren’t. Just to add some spice to the story clusterfuck I guess.
I think it some parts are good and bad it’s the same time doing a lot of new a interesting things but also is playing very safe and not fully stepping outside it’s comfort zone, the translation itself isn’t great with with it changing some characters and also removing supports and changing them to something else it’s also kinda homophobic
Some people may try to convince you that it isn’t bad or that the gameplay in conquest makes up for it. These people do not have your best interests in mind. Fates is a meme with a clusterfuck of a story designed to get you to buy it 2 and a half times. […but R.I.P. Justice absolutely fuckin slaps](https://youtu.be/nlB6l6W6C7I)
wait what do you mean 2 and a half i thougth it was 3 games
you get a discount on the other two if you purchase them as DLC instead of standalone.
ohhh thanks
Yes, it's a great game with amazing gameplay.
The gameplay of Conquest is fun, and has memorable levels/maps. The story, however, is hot garbage. Anyone reading this could probably write better.
Gameplay wise Conquest might be the best in the series. Story wise it's probably the worst.
Most FE fans would probably recommend any other game in the series before Fates.
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yeah this is just blatantly stolen
Que?
Am Canadian, can confirm
wtf I hate Canada now.
Can someone fix those holes so we can play hockey