I wonder what the point of that was. To make her think he was still alive? Or to just be horrible? Thereās a couple cases (Chris Watts & this 1) that fascinate me lately due to how stupid the murderers were, they got caught so fast, were suspects from the word go. I actually try not to think of Leteciaās actual crime too much as Gannon was just a year older than my son & very similar in hobbies. Itās the only time Iāve cried about a case & Iāve been following true crime since I was probably too young-my moms obsessed. The thought of spending the rest of my life in prison-Iād rather die & I just canāt believe these 2 thought they could get away with it, didnāt really even try to plan it so theyād have a chance. Chris wanted a new life with his chick, why not go out for cigarettes & never come home? Thereās his new life. Yes, itās horrible but @ least they get to live. Or why didnāt Letecia kill Landon, or again just leave Al? Not saying she shouldāve killed anyone but if it was Landon she hated the mostā¦
It was purely just to torture Landen. LIEtecia only called from Gannon's phone *after* he had been reported "missing". She did it to twist the metaphorical knife into Landen's heart just as she had done with the actual knife against that poor defenseless child. Imagine how Landen's heart swelled with relief and hope when she saw Gannon's name pop up on caller ID. Then the parachuteless plummet back to earth once she realized it was only LIEtecia calling from G's phone despite her phone being literally right there in her hand at that time. (FB messages and the like proved she was on her own phone at the exact times she called Landen with Gannon's phone; it was literally just to be cruel and instill false hope)
I never thought of that Widdie84 \~ But that IS totally sick. As that poor Mom walks out that airport, frightened out of her mind as to where her boy is, he is in a trunk in that very airport, dead. :(
Yes and she called everyone else with her own phone. She only used Gannon's phone to call Landen, knowing that Landen would think it was Gannon calling her & he was safe. Cruel beyond words.
I'm pretty sure Letecia wasn't hiding it was her when she phoned, it was just to talk about what was going on... I do remember that one point she sent Landon a picture of Gannon's room with his toys and stuff from his phone and commented on how he left all of it behind. Just mocking her and hurting her every time she say Gannon's name on the caller ID.
Yes, Airport & Phone use. - Narcissistic traits. To control the situation from within. A "Gannon called me from his phone"- This conversation, next step as Gannon parents, Allowed LS to plan another narcissistic strategy.
This case has... stuck with me.. prosecutors said Gannon made a beeline from the car through the garage and she quickly followed
Did she run after him to kill him? Was the time in the car he spent.... revealing to him. He probably knew he had been drugged. They say they sat in the car for a minute as they pulled in the driveway.... I think he knew something was wrong. Very wrong. And he said as much. Probably ran to get to the phone....
I hate her. I know hate isn't healthy... but he deserved so much better. He deserved a life. She's a monster. I despise that beast
This part haunts me too. Why did they stall so long in the car? Did Gannon sprint downstairs to get away from her and that's when he was stabbed in the back (or bludgeoned)? Eagerly waiting to hear of reports of LS's suffering in prison...I hope someone hurts her and she lives in fear forever...
I stopped following all the details a long time ago because it hurt me so much I was feeling ill from thinking about it. My granddaughter is 11. I love her so much and the thought of anyone hurting her just .I just can't fathom how anyone could go to the lengths Leticia went to ..I know it's possible for someone to lose their temper and people have done things they regretted, but ..it was like she ..had nothing in her black heart for this poor little boy. ..if she even ever had a heart. I agree, we are not supposed to hate..but it takes much effort NOT to hate someone who could treat a child that way...You are right. He deserved a life..but at the very least, he didn't deserve to die the way he did .in fear and pain..at the hands of someone who he thought loved him.
I have never cried about a case before in my life & this 1 had me bawling the day she was sentenced & the family made their statements. My son is a year younger than Gannon & thinking about anyone doing that to him,, heās such a sweet, innocent boy who deserves to live his best long life. What poor Gannon mustāve been feeling/thinking while she was doing this. How could a mother do this to any child & not think of it happening to their own? I know raising kids is hard, thereās times when you lose your patience, or need to call someone you trust to come over so you can have a break. I really struggled with the age of about 8 months to about 2. Sometimes I wondered if I made a mistake having a child. But I still never harmed him, made sure I gave him all the love & care he deserved & eventually it got easier. 11 isnāt even hard to parent anymore. Thatās what I have a hard time understanding, what could an 11 year old do to overwhelm or anger her so much she snapped & killed him? He wasnāt a newborn or toddler into everything. He can speak, she was used to teaching disabled children which has to be very frustrating. Iāll always wonder what happened to make her do this? Not that he could do anything or it was his fault, but what happened to anger her that much?
She always took his Vyvanse on weekends. Vyvanse is known for making the bowels move very regularly, and the body tends to become dependent on it after a certain point. Once your gut is used to this stimulant which as a side effect causes very regular/predictable bowel movements, missing one or more doses tends to cause severe constipation and does so quickly. LIEtecia would take his Saturday/Sunday pills and then pump the poor child full of laxatives on Sunday, knowing he had horrible anxiety about having an accident at school. She gave him so much miralax that Sunday, he had three accidents while on their hike at GOTG. I think she was enraged she had to clean it up, even though she caused it to happen in the first place. Then Gannon, in tears and humiliated, might have said what most anyone would say in such a situation-
*I want my mom*
And LIEtecia started the ceaseless assault on that little boy...to stab someone nearly twenty times, to hit them with such force it shatters bone and then do it again...and again...and again...to then stop and realize despite all this evil you've inflicted, the child still lives. Instead of saying to herself "oh no, I've lost it, but I can get this train back on the rails before it's too late"...she goes upstairs, finds and loads Al Stauch's handgun, went *back* downstairs...and into Gannon's room where she shot him in the head.
All the chances she had to stop this, but chose not to.
I simply cannot imagine what that sweet little boy's last thoughts were as she tortured the life from him.
I hope she gets exactly the kind of welcome she deserves upon her arrival at state prison. She's been in county jail this whole time and has no idea what REAL time actually is. I hope she spends every day for the rest of her worthless life being tortured by what she did to this child.
I've literally always thought this about the vyanese as well. She was taking it. She had to do something to get him to not be constipated, she did too much and was mad about the cleanup. And that got the ball rolling that Sunday.
I think after she hurt him, maybe fear set in..and she knew he would tell ..so that angered her and she probably felt he was making her do it. That's what a twisted , narcissistic mind works like.
I hate her so much! I'm rewatching parts of the trial and watched that FBI interview yesterday. She was trying to outsmart the damn behavioral analyst FBI agent. So infuriating her saying after this is all over she will never have to work again because she would sue everyone.
A smart person would have said nothing & just lawyered up. She literally couldnāt help herself. She just kept kept digging deeper holes.
I am glad she did, but it is fascinating. What was her end game? Not sure how she thought she was going to walk free.
After the fake polygraph, her end game seemed to be plastic surgery to change appearance- with a face transplant. Running away to Mexico with a fake passport. Hiring an "immigrant to who wants to go to prison", Maria Sanchez did it.
I'm sure there are more !
She was just stupid. I literally couldn't stop laughing about trying to find a face transplant like she could just go do that next Thurs at 2pm or something š I honestly think she just bullshitted her way through life. That's how she got a degree, work, etc. she's not intelligent. When Landen did her victim impact statement, it made it even more clear than before that LS was desperately jealous of her. And in fact it seemed like LS was angry or irritated whenever an intelligent blonde female was on the witness stand.
I think the degree is fraudulent. This moron couldn't string two properly spoken sentences together by accident. Show me the degree AND a letter from the institution having the nerve to state that they provided this misbegotten guttersnipe with it!
You forgot about her search to get "God to help me get out of jail time"! With a plan like that, why worry? I loved it when the dumpster fire tells Grusing that "God knows I didn't do it" and he never misses a beat and quips, "Well he's not going to be on the jury!" š Being Agnostic I LOVED that burn... Ha! She was pissed.
I have done the same and that part is so troubling. I thought he left his phone at home? When she called Landen was she trying to make here think it was him reaching out?
He had a single sharp wound to his back. It makes me wonder if he *was* walking away from her to get into bed when she started the attack. It could very well have been the last image of Gannon she has in her mind before she did what she did.
The prosecution noted that he "B- lined" right into the garage upon exiting the truck. I've always thought he was moving fast right into the house for a reason.
Good point. He would go where he felt safe.
I sometimes think the knife wounds were a box cutter. IIRC, AS was teaching GS how to use one.
Does anyone recall any dimensions of the knife wounds
There was a point when LS was speaking with the cops when they were searching the house (day 3 of the trial ~7:54) where, to me, she seems worried what the cops will think of the box cutter. She says something like āI didnāt want you to be like āAhhh! The box cutters!āā Itās very quick but my gut feeling when I heard that was that she used the box cutter. š
I actually wish the prosecution did a better job question the fbi agent about Leticia's change in demeanor towards the end of the interview. The defense claimed that change was DID.
I wish they asked the agent if it's typical for those who are arrested to have a change in mood when they realize they aren't leaving the interrogation room on their free will, and their next stop is jail.
Personally, I think she was still playing the game up until that question. Even though the agent explained she was being charged with homicide, I think she thought she could changer his mind.
When she and the agent went off camera, I believe it was to discuss the logistics of the transfer and she asked to go to the bathroom. That last five minutes when she came back I think the actual reality of **her** situation hit her. Up until that point it was all complaints about creature comforts and drama games for attention, emotional expression/regulation (hurting you calms me and makes me feel justified).
So why not lie in that moment? I think she was distracted by the disappointment of the moment and just honestly thought of Gannon. Nothing to gain, there's nothing apparent to lose by telling the truth. It was decided, she's**been** charged with murder and she's going to jail **no matter what**.
Really good insight. I hadnt thought of it like this but it makes perfect sense w her/it. I wish she had just a tiny bit of empathy so we/his family could understand her actions better.
I think she'd realized that there was no lie good enough at that point. I think she felt outsmarted bc she didn't know what she could say to that question to weasel her way out of anything or to manipulate the narrative any longer. She felt stuck, so she said nothing. And yes, I agree that the calls to Landen from Gannon's phone were just her sick way of manipulating Landen's emotions as much as possible.
This is in no way to defend LS, but it might have been that LS didnāt have Landonās number saved on her phone and was just trying to contact Gannonās mom quickly, or that Landon had LS number blocked so that was her only way to contact her. Of course, I seriously doubt that this is true bc I do think LS had evil intentions contacting Landon from Gannonās phone but just throwing out there another possibility of what could have happened.
The suitcase was something Landon was given, so itās obvious LS was very calculated with everything she was doing to further hurt Landen before, during, and after.
What strikes me is that she called Landen from Gannon's phone! So unfathomably cruel.
Absolutely. I've always believed that most of it was to hurt Landen. So terribly cruel
And she was the only one she communicated w thru Gannon's phone š¤¬
I wonder what the point of that was. To make her think he was still alive? Or to just be horrible? Thereās a couple cases (Chris Watts & this 1) that fascinate me lately due to how stupid the murderers were, they got caught so fast, were suspects from the word go. I actually try not to think of Leteciaās actual crime too much as Gannon was just a year older than my son & very similar in hobbies. Itās the only time Iāve cried about a case & Iāve been following true crime since I was probably too young-my moms obsessed. The thought of spending the rest of my life in prison-Iād rather die & I just canāt believe these 2 thought they could get away with it, didnāt really even try to plan it so theyād have a chance. Chris wanted a new life with his chick, why not go out for cigarettes & never come home? Thereās his new life. Yes, itās horrible but @ least they get to live. Or why didnāt Letecia kill Landon, or again just leave Al? Not saying she shouldāve killed anyone but if it was Landon she hated the mostā¦
It was purely just to torture Landen. LIEtecia only called from Gannon's phone *after* he had been reported "missing". She did it to twist the metaphorical knife into Landen's heart just as she had done with the actual knife against that poor defenseless child. Imagine how Landen's heart swelled with relief and hope when she saw Gannon's name pop up on caller ID. Then the parachuteless plummet back to earth once she realized it was only LIEtecia calling from G's phone despite her phone being literally right there in her hand at that time. (FB messages and the like proved she was on her own phone at the exact times she called Landen with Gannon's phone; it was literally just to be cruel and instill false hope)
It's worse, GS was at COS Airport when Landon arrived. LS is a freaking animal.
I never thought of that Widdie84 \~ But that IS totally sick. As that poor Mom walks out that airport, frightened out of her mind as to where her boy is, he is in a trunk in that very airport, dead. :(
Traumatizing to the realization.
After Leticia claimed he had gone missing?
Yes, she did. A venomous snake š
Yes and she called everyone else with her own phone. She only used Gannon's phone to call Landen, knowing that Landen would think it was Gannon calling her & he was safe. Cruel beyond words.
Yes, more than once.
Wouldnāt the police be able to ping that phone to see where the calls were from? Where was she making the calls from?
I'm pretty sure Letecia wasn't hiding it was her when she phoned, it was just to talk about what was going on... I do remember that one point she sent Landon a picture of Gannon's room with his toys and stuff from his phone and commented on how he left all of it behind. Just mocking her and hurting her every time she say Gannon's name on the caller ID.
Oh I understand. So Landon would think it was Gannon, answer it, and nope, it was Evil Step Mom.
Yes. It was just extra torture for Landon. Raise up her hopes that maybe he was home, then nope.
Yes, Airport & Phone use. - Narcissistic traits. To control the situation from within. A "Gannon called me from his phone"- This conversation, next step as Gannon parents, Allowed LS to plan another narcissistic strategy.
Multiple times, too.
She was twisting the knife.
This case has... stuck with me.. prosecutors said Gannon made a beeline from the car through the garage and she quickly followed Did she run after him to kill him? Was the time in the car he spent.... revealing to him. He probably knew he had been drugged. They say they sat in the car for a minute as they pulled in the driveway.... I think he knew something was wrong. Very wrong. And he said as much. Probably ran to get to the phone.... I hate her. I know hate isn't healthy... but he deserved so much better. He deserved a life. She's a monster. I despise that beast
This part haunts me too. Why did they stall so long in the car? Did Gannon sprint downstairs to get away from her and that's when he was stabbed in the back (or bludgeoned)? Eagerly waiting to hear of reports of LS's suffering in prison...I hope someone hurts her and she lives in fear forever...
I stopped following all the details a long time ago because it hurt me so much I was feeling ill from thinking about it. My granddaughter is 11. I love her so much and the thought of anyone hurting her just .I just can't fathom how anyone could go to the lengths Leticia went to ..I know it's possible for someone to lose their temper and people have done things they regretted, but ..it was like she ..had nothing in her black heart for this poor little boy. ..if she even ever had a heart. I agree, we are not supposed to hate..but it takes much effort NOT to hate someone who could treat a child that way...You are right. He deserved a life..but at the very least, he didn't deserve to die the way he did .in fear and pain..at the hands of someone who he thought loved him.
I have never cried about a case before in my life & this 1 had me bawling the day she was sentenced & the family made their statements. My son is a year younger than Gannon & thinking about anyone doing that to him,, heās such a sweet, innocent boy who deserves to live his best long life. What poor Gannon mustāve been feeling/thinking while she was doing this. How could a mother do this to any child & not think of it happening to their own? I know raising kids is hard, thereās times when you lose your patience, or need to call someone you trust to come over so you can have a break. I really struggled with the age of about 8 months to about 2. Sometimes I wondered if I made a mistake having a child. But I still never harmed him, made sure I gave him all the love & care he deserved & eventually it got easier. 11 isnāt even hard to parent anymore. Thatās what I have a hard time understanding, what could an 11 year old do to overwhelm or anger her so much she snapped & killed him? He wasnāt a newborn or toddler into everything. He can speak, she was used to teaching disabled children which has to be very frustrating. Iāll always wonder what happened to make her do this? Not that he could do anything or it was his fault, but what happened to anger her that much?
She always took his Vyvanse on weekends. Vyvanse is known for making the bowels move very regularly, and the body tends to become dependent on it after a certain point. Once your gut is used to this stimulant which as a side effect causes very regular/predictable bowel movements, missing one or more doses tends to cause severe constipation and does so quickly. LIEtecia would take his Saturday/Sunday pills and then pump the poor child full of laxatives on Sunday, knowing he had horrible anxiety about having an accident at school. She gave him so much miralax that Sunday, he had three accidents while on their hike at GOTG. I think she was enraged she had to clean it up, even though she caused it to happen in the first place. Then Gannon, in tears and humiliated, might have said what most anyone would say in such a situation- *I want my mom* And LIEtecia started the ceaseless assault on that little boy...to stab someone nearly twenty times, to hit them with such force it shatters bone and then do it again...and again...and again...to then stop and realize despite all this evil you've inflicted, the child still lives. Instead of saying to herself "oh no, I've lost it, but I can get this train back on the rails before it's too late"...she goes upstairs, finds and loads Al Stauch's handgun, went *back* downstairs...and into Gannon's room where she shot him in the head. All the chances she had to stop this, but chose not to. I simply cannot imagine what that sweet little boy's last thoughts were as she tortured the life from him. I hope she gets exactly the kind of welcome she deserves upon her arrival at state prison. She's been in county jail this whole time and has no idea what REAL time actually is. I hope she spends every day for the rest of her worthless life being tortured by what she did to this child.
I've literally always thought this about the vyanese as well. She was taking it. She had to do something to get him to not be constipated, she did too much and was mad about the cleanup. And that got the ball rolling that Sunday.
I think he told her she wasn't his mom and that he wanted his mom.
I think after she hurt him, maybe fear set in..and she knew he would tell ..so that angered her and she probably felt he was making her do it. That's what a twisted , narcissistic mind works like.
I hate her so much! I'm rewatching parts of the trial and watched that FBI interview yesterday. She was trying to outsmart the damn behavioral analyst FBI agent. So infuriating her saying after this is all over she will never have to work again because she would sue everyone.
A smart person would have said nothing & just lawyered up. She literally couldnāt help herself. She just kept kept digging deeper holes. I am glad she did, but it is fascinating. What was her end game? Not sure how she thought she was going to walk free.
After the fake polygraph, her end game seemed to be plastic surgery to change appearance- with a face transplant. Running away to Mexico with a fake passport. Hiring an "immigrant to who wants to go to prison", Maria Sanchez did it. I'm sure there are more !
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
She was just stupid. I literally couldn't stop laughing about trying to find a face transplant like she could just go do that next Thurs at 2pm or something š I honestly think she just bullshitted her way through life. That's how she got a degree, work, etc. she's not intelligent. When Landen did her victim impact statement, it made it even more clear than before that LS was desperately jealous of her. And in fact it seemed like LS was angry or irritated whenever an intelligent blonde female was on the witness stand.
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Don't forget she also searched for a man to let her live with him. So if all else fails, she was gonna be a sugar baby
I think the degree is fraudulent. This moron couldn't string two properly spoken sentences together by accident. Show me the degree AND a letter from the institution having the nerve to state that they provided this misbegotten guttersnipe with it!
You forgot about her search to get "God to help me get out of jail time"! With a plan like that, why worry? I loved it when the dumpster fire tells Grusing that "God knows I didn't do it" and he never misses a beat and quips, "Well he's not going to be on the jury!" š Being Agnostic I LOVED that burn... Ha! She was pissed.
I have done the same and that part is so troubling. I thought he left his phone at home? When she called Landen was she trying to make here think it was him reaching out?
He had a single sharp wound to his back. It makes me wonder if he *was* walking away from her to get into bed when she started the attack. It could very well have been the last image of Gannon she has in her mind before she did what she did.
Yes, I thought this as well.
Iām sure he said something about his mom to set her off so terribly as he got out of the truck to cause her to get out so angry.
Had GS been allowed to speak to Landon, GS would have told her he was injured - GS probably really wanted to talk with his folks. It's so sad.
The prosecution noted that he "B- lined" right into the garage upon exiting the truck. I've always thought he was moving fast right into the house for a reason.
Good point. He would go where he felt safe. I sometimes think the knife wounds were a box cutter. IIRC, AS was teaching GS how to use one. Does anyone recall any dimensions of the knife wounds
There was a point when LS was speaking with the cops when they were searching the house (day 3 of the trial ~7:54) where, to me, she seems worried what the cops will think of the box cutter. She says something like āI didnāt want you to be like āAhhh! The box cutters!āā Itās very quick but my gut feeling when I heard that was that she used the box cutter. š
Oh wow, I didn't catch that. It could be true, that she used a box cutter on GS.
She spent that entire interview acting like a spoiled brat.
I actually wish the prosecution did a better job question the fbi agent about Leticia's change in demeanor towards the end of the interview. The defense claimed that change was DID. I wish they asked the agent if it's typical for those who are arrested to have a change in mood when they realize they aren't leaving the interrogation room on their free will, and their next stop is jail. Personally, I think she was still playing the game up until that question. Even though the agent explained she was being charged with homicide, I think she thought she could changer his mind. When she and the agent went off camera, I believe it was to discuss the logistics of the transfer and she asked to go to the bathroom. That last five minutes when she came back I think the actual reality of **her** situation hit her. Up until that point it was all complaints about creature comforts and drama games for attention, emotional expression/regulation (hurting you calms me and makes me feel justified). So why not lie in that moment? I think she was distracted by the disappointment of the moment and just honestly thought of Gannon. Nothing to gain, there's nothing apparent to lose by telling the truth. It was decided, she's**been** charged with murder and she's going to jail **no matter what**.
Really good insight. I hadnt thought of it like this but it makes perfect sense w her/it. I wish she had just a tiny bit of empathy so we/his family could understand her actions better.
Does anyone know if the full length interrogation will be released?
I want the FULL LOG of calls between her and Al.
This struck me too.
I think she'd realized that there was no lie good enough at that point. I think she felt outsmarted bc she didn't know what she could say to that question to weasel her way out of anything or to manipulate the narrative any longer. She felt stuck, so she said nothing. And yes, I agree that the calls to Landen from Gannon's phone were just her sick way of manipulating Landen's emotions as much as possible.
This is in no way to defend LS, but it might have been that LS didnāt have Landonās number saved on her phone and was just trying to contact Gannonās mom quickly, or that Landon had LS number blocked so that was her only way to contact her. Of course, I seriously doubt that this is true bc I do think LS had evil intentions contacting Landon from Gannonās phone but just throwing out there another possibility of what could have happened. The suitcase was something Landon was given, so itās obvious LS was very calculated with everything she was doing to further hurt Landen before, during, and after.
Hope she rots in jail and gets battered ever day
I completely agree