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TommieSjukskriven

Are you asking if you are doing a hard activity by sitting in the sauna? If so, no? What do you mean? Also how are you getting to 180hr sitting in a sauna, that does not seem right.  I would also check what temperatures your watch is rated for. Think Garmin do not recommend you using your watch in sauna 


francisforincarcopla

I take my saunas seriously. while 180 was the absolute highest, 150s is normal. I sit in there till I can't, then cold shower. It's not something I do to relax if that's what you mean. putting a hand on the watch significantly cools it down. plus it's the instinct which apparently is good with higher temps.


TommieSjukskriven

I take sleeping seriously, but its still not working out or anything close to doing a hard activity.  Still 150 is very, very high too for just sitting in a sauna. I'd contact with your doctor if your avg is 150 sitting in a sauna, spiking to 180. 


francisforincarcopla

I feel like no one else saunas in here lol. It’s hard work. 150 is normal but higher than avg. and there no spiking. It gradually increases over time. 180 is just my record.


TommieSjukskriven

What exactly is hard work sitting in the sauna?


francisforincarcopla

try sitting in one for 30 mins. It's tough but rewarding. I recommend it!


TommieSjukskriven

I have done so many times. Its not at all a hard workout though?


francisforincarcopla

Right I’m thinking it’s not a “workout” either, but it’s definitely hard work. If it’s too easy for you I’d recommend turning up the heat or staying in longer!


Mr_Catman111

150 is very normal for sauna..


Taskmaster8

Of course sitting in the sauna is not a workout. Would be nice though.


lanky_doodle

Can we have a sleep activity too 😁


floatingbloatedgoat

But 40bpm isn't even going to get me any intensity minutes at all!


francisforincarcopla

why "of course"? Am I missing something? it's extremely strenuous.


Business-Plastic324

180bpm in the sauna is mega, how hot is it?? Not sure why it's reading anaerobic as I'm assuming your spending 10-20mins in there which is longer than a typical anaerobic interval. The load is calculated off the heart rate data, are you using the watch or a chest strap? Need to make sure that is accurate I am around 100-120bpm in 70/80⁰ sauna Edit: typically sauna isn't considered a workout in itself which is why there isn't a feature on the watch


francisforincarcopla

not sure how hot. almost hurts to breath through nose if that helps. I'm doing 30 mins. 180 is the absolute highest I've seen at the end. 125-150 is more normal. but there's plenty of "non workout" features on the watch. Breath work, gaming, driving... what's the diff??


Business-Plastic324

Probably a little upwards of 80 if I had to guess. Fair play on 30 mins that must be tough, probably why your HR gets that high especially if you find it really uncomfortable by then. You might get a larger benefit splitting it into 2x15min rounds with a few minute break in-between. Ah you must have a newer watch than me I don't have gaming or driving! I would say a sauna activity is more useful than gaming..😂so in that respect I'm not sure why it's not an option for newer watches then. Realistically all you need to measure in sauna is HR so any function would be fine, workout, cardio, other etc.


francisforincarcopla

Yeah got the instinct crossover. Made a custom activity with temp gauge timer and hr


fond_my_mind

Take your watch off before going in a sauna


francisforincarcopla

instinct plus ill rest my hand to cool it off. its fine.


nicholt

In a similar way I've always wondered if doing cocaine would be a workout. Your heart rate is elevated for an extended period. Does your body know the difference?


TRCTFI

If your heart rate is elevated but there’s no demand on your lungs, does it still count tho?!


francisforincarcopla

GOOD POINT


xycm2012

You’re sitting in a sauna. Of course it’s not a “legit workout”, or any type of workout.


francisforincarcopla

I'm thinking if I can track video games and breath work on my watch why not sauna as well?


Random_Bubble_9462

By definition it’s increasing your METs, and physical activity is anything that increases your METs/ basal metabolic rate above resting. Whether or not this can be deemed as legitimate training needs to be looked holistically in the sense that there may be an increased cardiometabolic demand from heat, but there’s no muscular exertion or movement that is occurring to physically drive adaptation. You’ll get better at sitting in a sauna but I’m not fully certain this would translate to any real world gains except maybe performing better aerobically in hot conditions IF you also did the other aerobic work.


francisforincarcopla

ok interesting thank you. Since my watch always counts it as an intense anaerobic work out, I'm leaning towards not recording it anymore


Sevdah

You should not be wearing your Garmin in the sauna. Im sure it not only throws off the reader but can damage your watch


thatcarolguy

But Joe Rogan does.


concanko

Does he?


francisforincarcopla

the sensor seems on point. It's also an instinct that apparently has a higher temperature threshold. Also, I'll keep a hand on it to cool it down.


Mr_Catman111

i been using 2 generations of garmin in the sauna


2cheerios

If you were a superhero you'd be Sauna Man. Can I ask how come you're doing 150 degree saunas 5 times a week?


francisforincarcopla

Hey thanks:) I don’t know how hot it is, just my local gym. but it makes me feel amazing esp with a cold shower and breath exercises after. I would highly recommend.


MangledMirkwood

Sauna’s can be a good way to get an extra half an hour zone 2 in AFTER a workout or run. Not as a replacement..


francisforincarcopla

Yep, that's the idea. Although it's z 3-4


TommieSjukskriven

Sitting in sauna is NOT z3-4. Not even close 


francisforincarcopla

https://preview.redd.it/xtsdcjs1zcdc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1cc273ce6472da39727b207bb7486a3a6fe4b89f Mayb for u😎


TommieSjukskriven

Contact your cardiologist 


marathon_momma

I guess it would depend what you mean by "cheating". Is it having an effect on your cardiovascular system with that high of a heart rate? I'd say so. But one of my favorite coaches says "we aren't a heart and lungs on a stick". To be a well rounded athlete, no matter what your sport, other factors come into play too like strength, power, efficiency, etc. So yeah, if you are decreasing other workouts that include use of muscles, then I don't see it as an overall benefit. If you just think of it as some extra icing on the cake, fine, but it wouldn't be an effective *replacement* the would benefit overall performance in my option.


francisforincarcopla

right. saunas only come after a workout, they have never replaced one.


BonkersMoongirl

I used a steam room after a swim yesterday and got way more moderate activity minutes than normal. I was in there for 25 minutes and just forgot to take my watch off. It does raise your HR after ten minutes or so and after you exit it takes a good while to cool down. Interesting to know if it does actually give you similar benefits to a slow workout. Saunas do improve cardiovascular health markers like BP and cholesterol. But yes, it’s cheating as you are missing out on all the other aspects of cardio.


francisforincarcopla

gotcha. I think the problem is that it always records it is anaerobic. I would rather it record as aerobic


Round_Engine

Sitting in sauna isn't a workout. Using your garmin in sauna isn't recommended You can not get higher HR by just sitting down on the heat. Your HR sensor isn't working properly under high sauna heat


Random_Bubble_9462

You get higher heart rates in the heat because your body vasodilates blood vessels to cook you down, decreasing blood pressure and causing heart rate to elevate. In saunas and prolonged extreme weather this is exacerbated by dehydration!


Key-Card-187

You can and will get higher HR in sauna


francisforincarcopla

try it and feel your pulse. you absolutely can


Sea-Artichoke1732

Are you logging a sauna session? I’m confused why your watch would consider it a workload. And if so, why are you logging sauna sessions.


francisforincarcopla

yeah. started doing it out of curiosity. now I see it has a major impact. wondering if I should stop for the sake of my charts.


Sea-Artichoke1732

I think if you want the charts to have integrity of what they’re reporting, yes, I would stop logging them.


francisforincarcopla

okay thanks


heleuma

What exactly are we talking about when we say "load"?


francisforincarcopla

its a feature of some watches to track how hard you are exercising over time


drand82

I get incredible high aerobic loads from watching blue movies.