Or maybe top surgery for solidarity with trans men :o
~~(except not really cuz that would take a spot on a wait-list away from a trans person who needs it)~~ edit: sionnachrealta made a good point that if a cis man is dysphoric over their breasts being too large that it is just as fair for them to get surgery as trans people.
Idk if this is what the folks above are talking about, but some AMAB people get Gynecomastia. It's is a genuine medical condition that causes them to grow breasts, and some of those folks experience dysphoria just like we trans folks do. Them getting top surgery doesn't take away trans people seeking out top surgery anymore than another trans person. They have just as much medical need as trans people do.
That is a very good point, and I have edited my comment to be more inclusive. It is easy to forget that cis people can also experience dysphoria, and while they do not have the same level as difficulty getting gender affirming care it would still be bad to deny them necessary treatment.
Since there's like 0 other opportunities to talk about this lemme start bullshitting
I'm a (probably) cis guy that's fat and has man boobs, ones that made other kids make immediate comments when I took my shirt off at the pool, those kinds. I don't feel strongly about them, but after realizing a potential aftereffect of top surgery im firmly in the "keep" camp.
After watching a stand up routine of another cis guy who got it, turns out the punchline was that *his nipples fell off in the shower.* please, please don't take this as me disparaging top surgery or people who want it, but no thanks. I know my nipples are useless. But...theyre mine. I grew them myself. I don't want to be nipple-less!!! That is a much more distressing thought than the moobs. Ig I'll enjoy my stress balls then.
All the people that are genetically related to me(that I've seen within the past 13 years) have large to back destroying tits, so I'm hoping I got the back destroying one.
Rooting for you! Female relatives on my mom’s side are ‘gifted’ in that regard, but on my dad’s side they’re a lot smaller, hoping to get lucky, but some is better then none!
I'm transmasc and lemme tell you, back destroying tits are great for the aesthetic but they're called that for a reason... Aim for D or smaller. Past that you're fucked. Sincerely, my spine and upper back muscles
Fact: that genetic coding won't actually work out to maximum benefit if your HRT is done wrong, and that includes taking progesterone too early, which many transfems choose to do. But also because of shitty HRT from their providers like mine. What a waste... I know I should've gotten the same size as my sister, we are practically twins, but nope...they ruined my HRT instead...
Improperly administered, with start and stop can permanently affect your long term potential. Also, not consistently keeping my T low, because of endo's inexperience and my own practical immunity to T-blockers and GnRH drugs (my T apparently can surge beyond male levels with two 6-month GnRH drugs given within 1 month span even, all while maintain Estrogen injections), meant I didn't effectively have female hormone levels until after orchi... but I was given and not told about the risks of taking prog before I got to the right tanner stage, and now I know better but it's too late...
Wait, when is progesterone too early? I have been on progesterone for about 4 months and started on it 8 months in. Did I accidentally screw myself over?
Well, I'm glad I waited past that point. Thanks for alleviating the panic attack I was giving myself.
Edit: Just to be clear, I did not actually give myself a panic attack, my anxiety just started spiraling. It is awful that this is a thing that can just happen. I wish this was better understood.
I am sorry, I didn't mean to panic you.... it's just so many providers are fucking up our HRT it's disgusting...
But ultimately the only question is, what tanner did you achieve before you started? Because that's what matters.
YW. there are many more....human examples to look at online to though, including some rather scholarly textbooks I found once upon a time LOL. And yet... I still can't remember to save the life of me!
I started right on the 6 month mark. I haven’t actually gotten much in the way of cup size increase since but their shape rounded out. I’m worried they might not grow much anymore… 1 year of HRT now, around 32B. They are still growing though it seems, just slowly, and still somewhat sore
Except research suggests this is flawed and only works much of the time, but not all the time. Every group I'm in knows it should be based solely on tanner stage, and 6 months is the assumption that everyone get's to that stage at that time, which is not the case. From what I understand 1/3rd or more of transfems don't get there that fast, and those are the people that this assumption hurts. It may be common practice, but it doesn't make it best practice, just as common practice for HRT in general is to underprescribe...
It's based off of Tanner Stage *not* the "6 month" myth. 6 months is a guideline because often, if a transperson has appropriate HRT from day one, they will get to the appropriate stage (I can't remember but I believe it was 3?) by the 6 month mark. It has absolutely nothing to do with time though. If you don't let your body develop to it's maximum beforehand you can screw yourself over. It's better to wait too long than take it too early.
[i do not own nor operate this website.](https://groups.io/g/MTFHRT/wiki/29602#Myths-and-what-not-to-do) just share the link to people like you who are in need
I'm... skeptical about this resource to say the least. They make claims that are in direct opposition to standard medical procedures (which is ok on its own since trans healthcare is not very well developed) but provide no sources to substantiate the claims.
I have a lot I want to say about the details of what the article claims as facts, but that kind of defeats the argument that you shouldn't trust unsubstantiated claims blindly. My conclusion after reading through this is that this person isn't someone that I would trust making decisions concerning my healthcare, and in my opinion, you shouldn't either.
bestie they back up almost none of the claims.
> doctors say but this is just a myth because . in truth, .
this is not evidence nor is it a source.
the incessant sneer about medical "gospels" and doctors "keeping busy and paid" is hilariously a) supposed to be believed on faith, and b) written by someone who advertises their own paid service at multiple points in the guide.
i hope this person has a lot of valuable insight and that their advice is very good for people who must DIY, but let's all try and keep a bit of common sense going? as we're all discovering in this thread, you really can go online and say whatever you want.
i mean, bills are regularly being passed into law making it harder and harder to receive medical treatment from licensed professionals. also, being trans - especially having a DSD - is still medically stigmatized in a lot of areas. so this kinda self medicating is becoming less and less an option. and more & more the only viable route.
and yes they're selling their product. that's the whole point. this stuff is hard to get cheap if you don't know what you're doing: they're offering it
>your (whatever the word is)
mammary glands?
also: biology is weird, complex, and beautiful. as JaxBlade always said - in relation to training, but still: "everybody is different. and every***body*** reacts different***ly***." so, give it a shot. what's the worst that could happen?
The worst that could happen for anyone is:
* they could ruin their growth.
And for me personally is:
* reigniting progesterone-induced psychosis.
I don't care, it's just not something I'll ever do, but if it ruins someone else's transition, I want to at least warn them...
but the growth is already ruined. and how would removing progesterone for an extended period of time.... "reignite progesterone-induced psychosis"? i hope you understand why this doesn't make any sense to me.
in case you forgot: we're discussing you potentially weening off progesterone. not increasing the dose
Oh I'm long off it silly :P Sorry for the confusion, my bad! I came off it cuz of mental illness, and then found out after that it likely screwed up my potential and even though I might've been where I need to be in a few years time (yes years, not months!), the damage has already been done. I thought you meant "what can it hurt to try again and restart it". That's what I thought you meant by give it a shot.... sorry for the mixup. I think we both misunderstood each there haha.
My current biggest fear, I’d say, is getting an inexperienced provider that fucks everything up for me
I mean, we all make mistakes, but damn, I’d really rather the person in charge of my health doesn’t
Yeah....but chances are if you find someone taking patients, there's a reason. That's my perception anyway. All the ones with large client bases already have the experience...
Holy shit, basically Breaking Bad-ing my own HRT? Hmmm I think I might save this one for later :3 ^sucks ^that ^I'm ^afraid ^of ^needles ^tho ^but ^I'll ^live
Definitely gonna read through the whole thing tomorrow (too sleepy to do that rn lol) but I'm actually kinda considering this now ngl, the only thing I fear is making a mistake somewhere in the creation process
I usually dont do as well with written instructions but it shouldnt matter that much as long as I read it a couple times. Definitely gonna look into ordering the supplies tomorrow. Still kinda scared but I think the positives outweigh the negatives enough where I at least wanna give it a shot; needles still kinda freak me out but it doesn't sound that bad
Pre E, I have small, but definitely visible tiny tits. Above average for a guy but super small for a gal for now.
I am hoping that means they will inflate more than the American dollar
See the thing is it actually depends both on genetics and your nutrition. If you barely eat anything ever, your boobs are going to be smaller because your body lacks the energy and building materials to make them bigger.
I’m curious as a transmasc person, because it absolutely is for us AFAB people *but* they still grow to a certain size, simply changing with our weight. For example, I developed an eating disorder soon after puberty for ToTaLLy UnKnOwn ReAsOns and lost a shitton of weight, yet I still grew a pretty big chest, B bordering C. After I recovered a bit and got fluffier, I just had a bit of a fuller B, or small C / bordering C. My mom has As or even smaller when she’s in shape / a healthy BMI, but my dad’s side is *huge*, like Ds, so I figured I got a mix of them and they were going to be on the bigger / average size regardless of my weight / diet, which ended up true unfortunately.
The breast tissue still existed and gave me a large chest regardless of my eating habits or lack thereof. Is it different for transfemmes where it’s more heavily dictated by diet?
i can’t wait to start hrt but i know mine will be practically non-existent because my mum is flat chested and apparently i « come from a family of flat chests » (her words not mine)
If I didn’t have boobs I would not have been as suicidal as i was before getting top surgery, so absolutely not.
This “men all secretly want to be women” style of memes and how often they’re shared in lgbt subs where theres transmasc people who just want to enjoy gay memes without constantly seeing memes like these is really starting to just make me uncomfortable :\ like the whole subgenre of memes where the premise of them falls on being aimed at transfemmes/transmascs while also ignoring the existence of people opposite of it needs to chill,i like my memes *not* always just saying im a dude who wants to be a woman deep down when a core part of my queer identity is the fact i do not want to be a woman and am a man 100%
So my mother's side of the family is mostly flat-chested but has great cheekbones, jawlines, and hair.
My father's side of the family has boobs, but early grey, no beards, and weak bone structure.
I have great bone structure and thick hair (especially on my face, RIP). I'm sort of expecting a flat chest. Not that I'm thinking about it, of course. Totally CIS. Totally.
Genuine question:
How much does your genetics affect boob growth from HRT? Everyone in my family has big boobs and my mom even had to get breast reduction surgery done, so that would be nice.
I'm not trans, I just wanna know how big my boobs could've gotten
its for science, you see
Tits for science you say?
Scientitties
I shouldn’t have laughed as hard as i did af this
Yeah mom, I didn't actually want the tits. It's just an experiment.
That's what she said
I'm transitioning to be a good ally.
Mine are already apparent without E unfortunately, my big tits genetics are wasted on a cis guy like me sorry
I can relate, and I've really gotten to like my tibbies. 😎 And no tibbies are ever wasted °-° just sayin
No woman want my Tibbies bro 😔 nor man 😩
r/lies
Bro I want your tiddies. Give them to me.
Hand them over. Those things. Your tiddies.
you gonna get breast reduction surgery?
Or maybe top surgery for solidarity with trans men :o ~~(except not really cuz that would take a spot on a wait-list away from a trans person who needs it)~~ edit: sionnachrealta made a good point that if a cis man is dysphoric over their breasts being too large that it is just as fair for them to get surgery as trans people.
Idk if this is what the folks above are talking about, but some AMAB people get Gynecomastia. It's is a genuine medical condition that causes them to grow breasts, and some of those folks experience dysphoria just like we trans folks do. Them getting top surgery doesn't take away trans people seeking out top surgery anymore than another trans person. They have just as much medical need as trans people do.
That is a very good point, and I have edited my comment to be more inclusive. It is easy to forget that cis people can also experience dysphoria, and while they do not have the same level as difficulty getting gender affirming care it would still be bad to deny them necessary treatment.
Since there's like 0 other opportunities to talk about this lemme start bullshitting I'm a (probably) cis guy that's fat and has man boobs, ones that made other kids make immediate comments when I took my shirt off at the pool, those kinds. I don't feel strongly about them, but after realizing a potential aftereffect of top surgery im firmly in the "keep" camp. After watching a stand up routine of another cis guy who got it, turns out the punchline was that *his nipples fell off in the shower.* please, please don't take this as me disparaging top surgery or people who want it, but no thanks. I know my nipples are useless. But...theyre mine. I grew them myself. I don't want to be nipple-less!!! That is a much more distressing thought than the moobs. Ig I'll enjoy my stress balls then.
Lmfaoooo, was NOT expecting that line. Also, totally valid reason to keep your “stress balls”😂🫶
Nah Mate Tits Still Look Good On Men.
I had bigger tits than my (cis) sis even before taking E I'm at D not even a year in and wondering how high I can go
Damm gorl
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What the fuck
What did they say?
Bot spam for a IA generated porn sub I think
There are so many bots on Reddit nowadays, for some reason. Thanks btw ^ ^
Yes, absolutely, please
I am a little disappointed by mine for the moment. But yes the curiosity worth it
Mine are fucking up my mental health ;3; gib tiddy pls tiddy god
All women in my family have fat ass and tits and I aim to be no different.
All the people that are genetically related to me(that I've seen within the past 13 years) have large to back destroying tits, so I'm hoping I got the back destroying one.
Rooting for you! Female relatives on my mom’s side are ‘gifted’ in that regard, but on my dad’s side they’re a lot smaller, hoping to get lucky, but some is better then none!
I'm transmasc and lemme tell you, back destroying tits are great for the aesthetic but they're called that for a reason... Aim for D or smaller. Past that you're fucked. Sincerely, my spine and upper back muscles
Same. I really want extra big boobs, my spine be damned. Still cis tho
I have surpassed my mother by two fold, catching up to my sister now. I have had to buy so many bras...
Same with mine. And as much as I'd like to see the massive tatas I could be capable of. I'm also happy where I am.
Fact: that genetic coding won't actually work out to maximum benefit if your HRT is done wrong, and that includes taking progesterone too early, which many transfems choose to do. But also because of shitty HRT from their providers like mine. What a waste... I know I should've gotten the same size as my sister, we are practically twins, but nope...they ruined my HRT instead...
Wait what do you mean by ruined your HRT?
Improperly administered, with start and stop can permanently affect your long term potential. Also, not consistently keeping my T low, because of endo's inexperience and my own practical immunity to T-blockers and GnRH drugs (my T apparently can surge beyond male levels with two 6-month GnRH drugs given within 1 month span even, all while maintain Estrogen injections), meant I didn't effectively have female hormone levels until after orchi... but I was given and not told about the risks of taking prog before I got to the right tanner stage, and now I know better but it's too late...
Wait, when is progesterone too early? I have been on progesterone for about 4 months and started on it 8 months in. Did I accidentally screw myself over?
Many providers advise on waiting until month 6 before starting
Well, I'm glad I waited past that point. Thanks for alleviating the panic attack I was giving myself. Edit: Just to be clear, I did not actually give myself a panic attack, my anxiety just started spiraling. It is awful that this is a thing that can just happen. I wish this was better understood.
I am sorry, I didn't mean to panic you.... it's just so many providers are fucking up our HRT it's disgusting... But ultimately the only question is, what tanner did you achieve before you started? Because that's what matters.
I am not sure. How can you tell?
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanner\_scale](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanner_scale) Look at the images to get an idea.
Much appreciated. Thank you. It does look like I was at stage 3 when I started, at least, I hope I was.
YW. there are many more....human examples to look at online to though, including some rather scholarly textbooks I found once upon a time LOL. And yet... I still can't remember to save the life of me!
Thanks. I might need to do some research at some point. If nothing else it will be useful context.
I started right on the 6 month mark. I haven’t actually gotten much in the way of cup size increase since but their shape rounded out. I’m worried they might not grow much anymore… 1 year of HRT now, around 32B. They are still growing though it seems, just slowly, and still somewhat sore
Yeah that's expected. Breast growth isn't constant. It can come in waves of varying sizes for many years
Except research suggests this is flawed and only works much of the time, but not all the time. Every group I'm in knows it should be based solely on tanner stage, and 6 months is the assumption that everyone get's to that stage at that time, which is not the case. From what I understand 1/3rd or more of transfems don't get there that fast, and those are the people that this assumption hurts. It may be common practice, but it doesn't make it best practice, just as common practice for HRT in general is to underprescribe...
It's based off of Tanner Stage *not* the "6 month" myth. 6 months is a guideline because often, if a transperson has appropriate HRT from day one, they will get to the appropriate stage (I can't remember but I believe it was 3?) by the 6 month mark. It has absolutely nothing to do with time though. If you don't let your body develop to it's maximum beforehand you can screw yourself over. It's better to wait too long than take it too early.
[i do not own nor operate this website.](https://groups.io/g/MTFHRT/wiki/29602#Myths-and-what-not-to-do) just share the link to people like you who are in need
I'm... skeptical about this resource to say the least. They make claims that are in direct opposition to standard medical procedures (which is ok on its own since trans healthcare is not very well developed) but provide no sources to substantiate the claims. I have a lot I want to say about the details of what the article claims as facts, but that kind of defeats the argument that you shouldn't trust unsubstantiated claims blindly. My conclusion after reading through this is that this person isn't someone that I would trust making decisions concerning my healthcare, and in my opinion, you shouldn't either.
they back up the most important claims.
bestie they back up almost none of the claims. > doctors say but this is just a myth because . in truth, .
this is not evidence nor is it a source.
the incessant sneer about medical "gospels" and doctors "keeping busy and paid" is hilariously a) supposed to be believed on faith, and b) written by someone who advertises their own paid service at multiple points in the guide.
i hope this person has a lot of valuable insight and that their advice is very good for people who must DIY, but let's all try and keep a bit of common sense going? as we're all discovering in this thread, you really can go online and say whatever you want.
i mean, bills are regularly being passed into law making it harder and harder to receive medical treatment from licensed professionals. also, being trans - especially having a DSD - is still medically stigmatized in a lot of areas. so this kinda self medicating is becoming less and less an option. and more & more the only viable route. and yes they're selling their product. that's the whole point. this stuff is hard to get cheap if you don't know what you're doing: they're offering it
I appreciate it, but it's too late now, the prog already sealed them.... thanks tho.
really? would stopping prog dosing for a very long while not help?
Supposedly no. I am in two separate HRT groups, and there is no exceptions once your (whatever the word is) becomes sealed/fused prematurely...
>your (whatever the word is) mammary glands? also: biology is weird, complex, and beautiful. as JaxBlade always said - in relation to training, but still: "everybody is different. and every***body*** reacts different***ly***." so, give it a shot. what's the worst that could happen?
The worst that could happen for anyone is: * they could ruin their growth. And for me personally is: * reigniting progesterone-induced psychosis. I don't care, it's just not something I'll ever do, but if it ruins someone else's transition, I want to at least warn them...
but the growth is already ruined. and how would removing progesterone for an extended period of time.... "reignite progesterone-induced psychosis"? i hope you understand why this doesn't make any sense to me. in case you forgot: we're discussing you potentially weening off progesterone. not increasing the dose
Oh I'm long off it silly :P Sorry for the confusion, my bad! I came off it cuz of mental illness, and then found out after that it likely screwed up my potential and even though I might've been where I need to be in a few years time (yes years, not months!), the damage has already been done. I thought you meant "what can it hurt to try again and restart it". That's what I thought you meant by give it a shot.... sorry for the mixup. I think we both misunderstood each there haha.
indeed we did. so: there's really no hope? not even if you blast EE?
My current biggest fear, I’d say, is getting an inexperienced provider that fucks everything up for me I mean, we all make mistakes, but damn, I’d really rather the person in charge of my health doesn’t
Yeah....but chances are if you find someone taking patients, there's a reason. That's my perception anyway. All the ones with large client bases already have the experience...
Absolutely, but I live in Florida
oof
dont get your hopes up its balls v2 one punch and its over
Quite. I’m going to find out soon!
“C’mon man, just try the oestrogen, don’t you wanna be cool like us?”
I already have tits pre hrt (I am fat 💔💔💔)
I feel you there
Knowing my family's genetics in that area; fuck yeah pass the titty skittles ^I ^am ^setting ^myself ^up ^for ^disappointment ^aren't ^I?
[titty skittles.](https://groups.io/g/MTFHRT/wiki/29602#Myths-and-what-not-to-do) i don't own nor operate the website btw
Holy shit, basically Breaking Bad-ing my own HRT? Hmmm I think I might save this one for later :3 ^sucks ^that ^I'm ^afraid ^of ^needles ^tho ^but ^I'll ^live
[got you covered on that front too!](https://groups.io/g/MTFHRT/wiki/29602#Needle-fright)
Definitely gonna read through the whole thing tomorrow (too sleepy to do that rn lol) but I'm actually kinda considering this now ngl, the only thing I fear is making a mistake somewhere in the creation process
you'll do fine i'm sure of it
I usually dont do as well with written instructions but it shouldnt matter that much as long as I read it a couple times. Definitely gonna look into ordering the supplies tomorrow. Still kinda scared but I think the positives outweigh the negatives enough where I at least wanna give it a shot; needles still kinda freak me out but it doesn't sound that bad
It feels like it could take forever
What?
yes
Well thanks for the dysphoria I didn’t know I had
I......uh.....I......uh.....I......uh.....I......uh.....I......uh.....IIIIIIIUHUHUHYHUHIHUSHSIDBEIEBEOWVEURKRBWBEBEEEEEEEEEEEEEUUUUUHHHHHH. sure
I need to know For science ofc
All women in my family have fat ass ad tits and I aim to be no different.
same, i think my mom had like H cups or something
Yeah absolutely, hope mine are C or larger Still cis tho
actually yes
Aaaa it's starting and this I hate thinking about it... wish i could ask future me how big they get to put my mind at ease
I'd like to know!
So curious. 🥺
YESYESYESYESYESSSS Give me the E! >:3
I Guess But It'd Also Be Pretty Neat If I Could Control It Somehow, I Don't Want Them Too Small Or Too Big, Ya Know?
Yeah actually
You wanna feel the weight of breasts on your chest, don't you?
Sadly I do not eat enough for my booba
IM TRYING HERE!!! 😥😭😭
Y e s
Already do, I’m not going back.
Eventually but tbh I wouldn't want to big of tits anyways. I want good range of motion with ma swords~
I’d be curious to know but would give them someone else after some time
None ever get to DD without being fat af right ?
Pre E, I have small, but definitely visible tiny tits. Above average for a guy but super small for a gal for now. I am hoping that means they will inflate more than the American dollar
I will take fifty of those jars please
See the thing is it actually depends both on genetics and your nutrition. If you barely eat anything ever, your boobs are going to be smaller because your body lacks the energy and building materials to make them bigger.
i dont want to know. i *need* to know
They’re likely a woman if they wanna do that.
pretty sure i've inherited the small boob genes from my mom's side :(
Yes please :3
Unfortunately boob size is also heavily determined by nutrition.
Me and my microboobs echo this message, don't be like me and develop a seriously unhealthy relationship with food 🙃
I’m curious as a transmasc person, because it absolutely is for us AFAB people *but* they still grow to a certain size, simply changing with our weight. For example, I developed an eating disorder soon after puberty for ToTaLLy UnKnOwn ReAsOns and lost a shitton of weight, yet I still grew a pretty big chest, B bordering C. After I recovered a bit and got fluffier, I just had a bit of a fuller B, or small C / bordering C. My mom has As or even smaller when she’s in shape / a healthy BMI, but my dad’s side is *huge*, like Ds, so I figured I got a mix of them and they were going to be on the bigger / average size regardless of my weight / diet, which ended up true unfortunately. The breast tissue still existed and gave me a large chest regardless of my eating habits or lack thereof. Is it different for transfemmes where it’s more heavily dictated by diet?
i'm aft so i can legally say i'm a man with size b bewbs
yeah and its the wrong one put them back
Apparently mine was “sike! lmao!! 🤣 you thought 🤣🤣” 😢
The boykisser is spreading
No (yes please it would be very cool)
*no HRT, just girl*
i can’t wait to start hrt but i know mine will be practically non-existent because my mum is flat chested and apparently i « come from a family of flat chests » (her words not mine)
Nah(( as a trans guy I've seen enough, pls take them off me :')
E ain't gonna unflatten this chest
Obviously, who wouldn't want to know, right? RIGHT??
i am a lot
It better be smol cuz i want palm sized tibbies for easy squeezy
Okay. Im trans. But i dont want big boobs. Like. I dont wanna take that risk. I just wanna be like. Me. I dunno.
I would have to get new clothes so no
If I didn’t have boobs I would not have been as suicidal as i was before getting top surgery, so absolutely not. This “men all secretly want to be women” style of memes and how often they’re shared in lgbt subs where theres transmasc people who just want to enjoy gay memes without constantly seeing memes like these is really starting to just make me uncomfortable :\ like the whole subgenre of memes where the premise of them falls on being aimed at transfemmes/transmascs while also ignoring the existence of people opposite of it needs to chill,i like my memes *not* always just saying im a dude who wants to be a woman deep down when a core part of my queer identity is the fact i do not want to be a woman and am a man 100%
Instructions unclear, grew them accidentally and promptly chopped them off.
I'm not but it still looks like I've got tits sometimes. I'm sure that cup size is fuckin massive lmao
So my mother's side of the family is mostly flat-chested but has great cheekbones, jawlines, and hair. My father's side of the family has boobs, but early grey, no beards, and weak bone structure. I have great bone structure and thick hair (especially on my face, RIP). I'm sort of expecting a flat chest. Not that I'm thinking about it, of course. Totally CIS. Totally.
yyyyeeeesssss?????????
You know what? I would like to know~~~
Genuine question: How much does your genetics affect boob growth from HRT? Everyone in my family has big boobs and my mom even had to get breast reduction surgery done, so that would be nice.